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Jul 24 03:28:35 <naknomik> I get mic error, just running mic-chroot --unpack-only to explode the iso: mic.imgcreate.errors.CreatorError: Failed to get architecture of /sbin/init
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Jul 24 05:02:21 <RST38h> Anyone suggested him to install Ubuntu yet? =)
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Jul 24 19:44:21 <GAN900> When did EDGE get faster?
Jul 24 19:44:27 <GAN900> 25KB/sec?
Jul 24 19:47:02 <TSCHAKeee> when more ppl started using 3G
Jul 24 19:59:08 <GAN900> Mmm
Jul 24 20:09:27 <CosmoHill> oh that's right, you can't multiple by zero
Jul 24 20:12:11 <GAN900> You can't?
Jul 24 20:12:19 <GAN900> Divide, surely.
Jul 24 20:13:01 <CosmoHill> try 2 * 0 * 2
Jul 24 20:13:39 <TSCHAKeee> not that you can't
Jul 24 20:13:46 <TSCHAKeee> but that any 0 makes it 0
Jul 24 20:19:55 <RobotGuy> Hello
Jul 24 20:48:18 <remlabm> having an issue booting to a USB image of meebo.. "No Default or UI configuration directive found!" anyone have idea on that?
Jul 24 20:49:08 <remlabm> meego*
Jul 24 21:30:54 <Macer> is there a working/not working wiki for meego on n900?
Jul 24 21:38:41 <Macer> where are meego n900 images?
Jul 24 21:38:50 <Macer> all i see is an n900 developer kickstart download
Jul 24 21:39:18 <ScottishDuck> n900 has closed bits, so you have to build your own
Jul 24 21:39:58 <ScottishDuck> right now you need to build a raw image with the kickstart and put it on a microSD
Jul 24 21:40:10 <Macer> ah ok
Jul 24 21:40:16 <Macer> is there a wiki that explains how to do that?
Jul 24 21:40:22 <ScottishDuck> yeah
Jul 24 21:40:28 <ScottishDuck> I'll just find the link
Jul 24 21:40:53 <Macer> ok :)
Jul 24 21:41:06 <Macer> let me go ahead and rip the battery cover off to get this
Jul 24 21:41:42 <ScottishDuck> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator
Jul 24 21:41:53 <ScottishDuck> (RAW Image)
Jul 24 21:41:56 <ScottishDuck> and then http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC
Jul 24 21:44:07 <Macer> thanks
Jul 24 21:44:15 <Macer> what isn't working right now?
Jul 24 21:44:31 <Macer> the modem?
Jul 24 21:44:36 <ScottishDuck> the cell modem (making phone calls/ sms)
Jul 24 21:44:48 <ScottishDuck> I'm not sure of what else
Jul 24 21:45:26 <Macer> yeah but that modem is a big one ;)
Jul 24 21:45:33 <ScottishDuck> but you should only really install to see what the OS is like, it's not ready for day-to-day use, even in an alpha/beta capacity
Jul 24 21:45:36 <Macer> it has to be fedora?
Jul 24 21:45:49 <ScottishDuck> There are MIC instructions for ubuntu as well
Jul 24 21:45:57 <ScottishDuck> and a source install (i think)
Jul 24 21:46:25 <Macer> i don't have an ubuntu box. i have a debian box :) and an opensolaris one
Jul 24 21:46:37 <Macer> i suppose i can make an ubuntu vbox :/
Jul 24 21:46:57 <Macer> what about osx instructions? :) i have a macbook
Jul 24 21:47:02 <Macer> let me see on the wiki
Jul 24 21:47:43 <ScottishDuck> wait
Jul 24 21:47:50 <ScottishDuck> there is a debian installer too
Jul 24 21:48:01 <ScottishDuck> http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#From_Binary_Packages
Jul 24 21:49:31 <Macer> awesome :)
Jul 24 21:49:40 <Macer> thanks. i'll do it all on the C7
Jul 24 21:49:53 <Macer> my debian box is a 1GHz C7 ;)
Jul 24 21:51:49 <ScottishDuck> pfft
Jul 24 21:51:54 <ScottishDuck> Gentoo is the only OS
Jul 24 21:51:55 <ScottishDuck> :)
Jul 24 21:57:34 <Macer> you should be shot for that one :)
Jul 24 21:57:42 <RobotGuy> I am installing the MeeGo SDK now.
Jul 24 21:57:46 <Macer> actually. i used gentoo for quite a while but always wound up destroying it
Jul 24 21:58:03 <Macer> ScottishDuck: but thanks a ton. i see the instructions for debian
Jul 24 21:58:19 <Macer> i will work on this in a bit.. but i have to check on my son watching cartoons now :)
Jul 24 21:59:04 <Macer> i just hope this C7 can handle it ;)
Jul 24 21:59:37 <Macer> i downloaded all the files for the kickstart tho. so i guess that's a start
Jul 24 22:00:22 <ScottishDuck> which kickstart did you use
Jul 24 22:00:31 <ScottishDuck> the one from meego-codedrop?
Jul 24 22:00:49 <Macer> nothing yet
Jul 24 22:01:01 <Macer> i just went to the meego.com download tab and picked n900
Jul 24 22:01:20 <ScottishDuck> oh nonono
Jul 24 22:01:20 <Macer> entered my ser num and downloaded all the files :)
Jul 24 22:01:41 <Macer> i thought i would need those for the closed off stuff
Jul 24 22:02:35 <Macer> well. i will just follow the wiki instructions for making the img i suppose
Jul 24 22:02:57 <Macer> i am going to go out on a stretch here and assume that by adding the repos and building and updating the repos etc
Jul 24 22:03:15 <Macer> i should be able to easily use get or apt to update all the things required and rebuild newer builds ?
Jul 24 22:03:17 <RobotGuy> All I am getting is "ERROR: '/xdev/oe/openembedded/recipes/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb' failed" and I can't see where it failed.
Jul 24 22:03:19 <Macer> git
Jul 24 22:03:49 <Macer> honestly. i am asking too much. let me go ahead and just try to get this going ;)
Jul 24 22:04:23 <RobotGuy> Oops, wrong chat, sorry
Jul 24 22:05:41 <ScottishDuck> Macer: Go here http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php and download meego-handset-...ks
Jul 24 22:06:28 <ScottishDuck> then open it with a text editor and find the nokia-proprietary repo
Jul 24 22:06:33 <ScottishDuck> download http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100720.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks
Jul 24 22:06:44 <ScottishDuck> and add the nokia-proprietary repo to it
Jul 24 22:06:51 <Macer> E: Version '3.85' for 'syslinux' was not found
Jul 24 22:06:58 <ScottishDuck> then use it with MIC to create an image
Jul 24 22:07:30 <ScottishDuck> Macer: you need to add the repo
Jul 24 22:07:30 <Macer> ScottishDuck: i already downloaded that ;)
Jul 24 22:07:34 <Macer> ScottishDuck: i did
Jul 24 22:07:40 <Macer> and added the repo key
Jul 24 22:07:49 <Macer> i followed it step by step but let me double check
Jul 24 22:08:19 <ScottishDuck> ah
Jul 24 22:08:21 <ScottishDuck> wait
Jul 24 22:08:26 <ScottishDuck> don't specify 3.85
Jul 24 22:08:28 <Macer> yeah. the repos are updated
Jul 24 22:08:32 <ScottishDuck> there is a newer one in the repo
Jul 24 22:08:39 <Macer> :) someone needs to edit the wiki heh
Jul 24 22:08:45 <Macer> alright
Jul 24 22:09:20 <Macer>   dosfstools mtools syslinux syslinux-common
Jul 24 22:09:29 <Macer> hm. well. let's see if i break my box :)
Jul 24 22:10:04 <Macer> uhm
Jul 24 22:10:05 <Macer> Get:4 http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu lenny/main syslinux 2:3.71+dfsg-5 [62.5kB]
Jul 24 22:10:14 <Macer> it's grabbing it from my debian repo and not the meego repo
Jul 24 22:13:20 <Macer> ah well. let me just go ahead and instlal mic2 and let apt handle the deps and see what happens :)
Jul 24 22:22:58 <vgrade> Those over there are not giants but windmills - http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo
Jul 24 22:24:09 <Macer> Error: Not any repo is available
Jul 24 22:24:51 <Macer> mic-image-creator --run-mode=0 --cache=mycachedir --format=raw --arch=armv7l --save-kernel --config= meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks.ks
Jul 24 22:25:02 <Macer> oh
Jul 24 22:26:07 <ScottishDuck> ?
Jul 24 22:26:18 <ScottishDuck> oh?
Jul 24 22:27:36 <Macer> ok
Jul 24 22:27:42 <Macer> do i have the syntax wrong there minust he cache dir?
Jul 24 22:27:55 <Macer> i keep getting some poor english error msg :)
Jul 24 22:28:11 <Macer> Error: Not any repo is available
Jul 24 22:28:46 <ScottishDuck> I know
Jul 24 22:28:59 <ScottishDuck> >meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100720.1.ks.ks
Jul 24 22:29:02 <ScottishDuck> >.ks.ks
Jul 24 22:29:06 <ScottishDuck> remove one .ks
Jul 24 22:29:22 <ScottishDuck> probably makes no difference, on second thought
Jul 24 22:29:47 <Macer> yeah. the files are saving as ks.ks
Jul 24 22:29:51 <Macer> but i'll try
Jul 24 22:30:26 <ScottishDuck> also there is a space between config= and the .ks
Jul 24 22:31:37 <Macer> yeah
Jul 24 22:31:41 <Macer> that was it but now i get...
Jul 24 22:31:44 <Macer> Unexpected arguments to repo command: ['\xe2\x80\x94gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego']
Jul 24 22:32:57 <Macer> the nokia ks works
Jul 24 22:33:07 <Macer> the one you directed me doesn't seem to  :(
Jul 24 22:33:39 <Macer> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'close'
Jul 24 22:33:43 <Macer> weeeeee!!
Jul 24 22:35:48 <Macer> ok. this is turning out to be too much of a pain :)
Jul 24 22:36:03 <Macer> i will wait until a distributable raw img comes out
Jul 24 22:36:39 <ScottishDuck> Sounds like a plan
Jul 24 22:36:51 * CosmoHill chases a cat away from his hamster
Jul 24 22:37:04 <ScottishDuck> my cat was afraid of my hamster
Jul 24 22:37:13 <ScottishDuck> the hamster bit him on the nose
Jul 24 22:37:21 <CosmoHill> we don't have a cat
Jul 24 22:37:22 <Macer> let me try re-installing python
Jul 24 22:37:24 <Macer> who knows
Jul 24 22:37:30 <Macer> maybe it was some weird freak python error
Jul 24 22:37:40 <ScottishDuck> what version of python
Jul 24 22:39:35 <Macer> 2.5
Jul 24 22:39:51 <ScottishDuck> why not 2.6?
Jul 24 22:40:14 <Macer> because 2.5 is what is in the debian repos
Jul 24 22:41:03 <ScottishDuck> I knew debian was legacy... but that's just plain old
Jul 24 22:42:19 <Macer> http://pastebin.org/416103
Jul 24 22:42:26 <Macer> that is the error i am getting with the nokia one
Jul 24 22:43:37 <JJNova> So I have meego booting from a USB drive, and I don't know if it has hung up, or if the screen that says, "SYSLINUX 3.84 2009-12-18 EBIOS" is supposed to stay up for a really long time.
Jul 24 22:43:44 <JJNova> Is there background stuff going on?
Jul 24 22:43:56 <Macer> http://pastebin.org/416104
Jul 24 22:44:05 <Macer> and that is with the one you told me to try ;)
Jul 24 22:44:40 <ScottishDuck> Macer: It would seem it's calling functions that are in python 2.6
Jul 24 22:44:45 <ScottishDuck> so you need python 2.6
Jul 24 22:45:06 <ScottishDuck> what version of debian are you using?
Jul 24 22:45:41 <Macer> 5.0
Jul 24 22:46:12 <Macer> the problem with yours though does not seem to be python.. which i am sure it will after i get past the problem of the gpg key stuff
Jul 24 22:46:23 <Macer> but line 17 and 18 have ...
Jul 24 22:46:57 <Macer> —gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego
Jul 24 22:49:02 <Macer> i suppose i have to check my .gnupg dir and see if something was put there for me to use for this
Jul 24 22:49:05 <Macer> then change the ks
Jul 24 22:50:49 <Macer> possibly the instructions for debian are just not straightforward enough minus the instructions on installing mic2 :) ah well. time-out for now. maybe i will figure it out later on... or maybe i will just work on making a fedora or ubuntu vbox to do all this in
Jul 24 22:51:04 <Macer> ScottishDuck: thanks for the help. going to watch tv and take a nap ;)
Jul 24 23:15:25 <CosmoHill> night night
Jul 24 23:27:49 <vgrade> night CosmoHill, thanks for the eulerProblems link, I might have a go at some of those.  Its years since I programmed
Jul 24 23:54:28 <RobotGuy> Is there such a thing as poko linux? I can't seem to find it.
Jul 25 00:22:29 <RobotGuy> I've installed the MeeGo Chroot.  I was expecting a handheld version but seem to have gotten a netbook version. Is there a handheld specific chroot?
Jul 25 00:59:20 <RobotGuy> Wow, the simulator will only run on Intel graphics hardware.  So I guess I won't be tinkering with MeeGo. :( :(
Jul 25 00:59:43 <timeless> eh?
Jul 25 01:00:16 <timeless> i had some part of meego run w/ vbox..
Jul 25 01:01:04 <RobotGuy> I'm reading right off the MeeGo website for installation instructions.
Jul 25 01:01:51 <timeless> don't be a robot :b
Jul 25 01:03:37 <ScottishDuck> don't be a robot, guy
Jul 25 01:03:44 <ScottishDuck> would have been more appropriate
Jul 25 01:03:46 <ScottishDuck> :)
Jul 25 01:04:32 <timeless> touche
Jul 25 01:37:05 <RobotGuy> I really would like to develop for MeeGo, but am not sure how I am going to accomplish that.
Jul 25 01:43:36 <RobotGuy> My laptop has nVidia video.
Jul 25 02:16:53 <ScottishDuck> Don't expect nVidia support (ever)
Jul 25 02:17:08 <ScottishDuck> nVidia and intel aren't on the best of terms
Jul 25 02:21:16 <GAN900> RobotGuy, you're not.
Jul 25 02:21:31 <GAN900> RobotGuy, unless you bring your own hardware support.
Jul 25 02:21:44 <GAN900> Because Intel doesn't seem to care about reaching devs.
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