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Jul 26 09:54:25 slaine: gitorious generally or published alongside images Jul 26 09:54:35 From the wiki Jul 26 09:54:36 To obtain the official Meego .ks files, go here: TO-DO-LINK Jul 26 09:55:09 i guess you're reading image_creation, :P Jul 26 09:55:26 sec Jul 26 09:55:51 http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/image-configurations/trees/master Jul 26 09:57:02 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/netbook/images/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32/meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.ks Jul 26 09:57:11 I was looking in the 1.0.1 path Jul 26 13:26:19 Oh the humiliation of it all Jul 26 13:26:41 we're being paraded around in front of some camera crew making a documentary or something Jul 26 13:26:58 "Look at the monkeys. See how they code" Jul 26 13:36:56 slonopotamus: while there's porn on the screens and weed being smoked? Jul 26 13:38:05 ugh Jul 26 13:38:18 i need to find a scanner that can scan pdfs on its own Jul 26 13:38:30 without a pc Jul 26 13:38:43 does anything like that even exist? Jul 26 13:38:48 yep Jul 26 13:38:56 we have one of those in the office Jul 26 13:39:00 it's a fax, printer and a scanner Jul 26 13:39:08 it sends you the scans by email, in .pdf Jul 26 13:39:16 it scans to a microsd or something as a pdf? Jul 26 13:39:26 without needing a pc? Jul 26 13:39:32 yes, without a PC Jul 26 13:39:42 what is it called? Jul 26 13:39:49 * thiago checks the CUPS config Jul 26 13:39:53 i dont really need the fax and copy part Jul 26 13:40:14 just the scanning part ;) but copying and scanning is about the same thing Jul 26 13:40:18 ours is a Sharp AR-M451N Jul 26 13:40:26 awesome...thanks Jul 26 13:40:31 let me take a look Jul 26 13:44:50 Stskeeps: wut? Jul 26 13:44:57 hm Jul 26 13:45:00 Stskeeps: they're french, so our french sales manager is saying "Pretend you're working". "We ARE working" Jul 26 13:45:02 http://www.office.xerox.com/multifunction-printer/multifunction-under-30ppm/phaser-3100mfp/enus.html Jul 26 13:45:27 that looks like it might do it. says scans directly to usb drive with no pc required Jul 26 13:45:36 but doesnt say which format Jul 26 13:50:04 oh. guess that one is discontinued but they have a newer model for 400 ... cheap ;) Jul 26 13:50:46 great Jul 26 13:50:50 microb crashed Jul 26 13:50:52 again Jul 26 13:51:05 lord please hurry up with meego :) Jul 26 13:51:21 for n900.. i will even get an intel based phone Jul 26 13:51:26 if need be heh Jul 26 13:51:42 maemo5 seems more and more like crap Jul 26 13:53:45 Macer: stop whining Jul 26 13:54:13 great Jul 26 13:54:21 now the link i had i lost CRAP Jul 26 13:54:39 slonopotamus: lol. youre right Jul 26 13:54:53 best just to wait on a meego phone Jul 26 13:55:05 and suck it up Jul 26 13:56:05 Macer, restart. Jul 26 13:56:18 Reduce swappiness Jul 26 13:57:38 doubt that is the problem. seems to die when pop ups are supposed to happen Jul 26 13:57:58 such as... entering in a web address and it pops your history up Jul 26 13:58:14 or when the phone is closed and you ry to use the vkb Jul 26 13:59:13 i will just take deep breaths until a good meego phone comes out Jul 26 14:01:06 WorkCentre 3210/3220 Jul 26 14:01:09 found it Jul 26 14:02:35 Macer, have you tried restarting, though? Jul 26 14:02:48 I've been pretty crash-free in MicroB Jul 26 14:04:05 yes Jul 26 14:04:20 iit is random Jul 26 14:04:32 i might just start using opera mobile Jul 26 14:04:41 but i havent really used it much Jul 26 14:04:52 but if it works i will see about removing microb Jul 26 14:13:36 Any plugins? Jul 26 14:55:24 hello evryone Jul 26 14:55:55 wello Jul 26 14:56:27 I need to request a package be included in meego, how should I go about doing it? Jul 26 14:57:03 iberlynx: log a bug as an enhancement request Jul 26 14:57:11 hum Jul 26 14:58:15 thanks slaine, what is the standard waiting period from request to being able to get it from the repos? Jul 26 14:58:45 you're guestimate is perfectly fine Jul 26 14:58:48 there's none Jul 26 14:59:00 remember signed-off-by Jul 26 15:12:32 iberlynx: Here are some guidelines if you haven't already read them http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Guidelines Jul 26 15:12:53 helps make sure that you have everything we're looking for when you submit Jul 26 15:18:03 DawnFoster: thanks, but I thought what I had to do was point the package-maintainers in the direction of the source. Are you saying that I should make an srpm package myself and submit it has an attachment to the bug? Jul 26 15:20:53 iberlynx: I'd file the bug, point them to the source and get confirmation that it aligns with the overall direction of the project. Jul 26 15:21:04 my guess is that you'll need to package it up. Jul 26 15:21:23 but you should get confirmation first Jul 26 15:21:37 ok Jul 26 15:21:41 thanks Jul 26 15:53:22 hi folks Jul 26 15:53:33 after flashing my N900 with a recent meego image, i have a login Jul 26 15:53:37 root / meego works Jul 26 15:53:44 how does one bring up the gui? Jul 26 15:54:09 sabdfl: which image? I don't think there are any N900 images on meego.com which have the handset UX Jul 26 15:55:01 Robot101: i used http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/ Jul 26 15:55:14 yeah, that's the 'open image' which doesn't work cos there's no SGX libraries Jul 26 15:55:23 ah :) Jul 26 15:55:28 also, it doesn't boot anywhere in general cos of the dbus / toolchain problem Jul 26 15:55:56 darn, i thought i was so close! Jul 26 15:56:01 close enough Jul 26 15:56:03 track http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3936 for waiting for a fix Jul 26 15:56:18 is there an apt-get update equiv that would get me there? Jul 26 15:56:23 no sorry Jul 26 15:56:24 or just reflash in due course? Jul 26 15:56:26 ok Jul 26 15:56:40 should i wait for another drop of the nokia-proprietary bits? Jul 26 15:56:50 or will the open image work soon enough Jul 26 15:56:52 well, those aren't the problem atm :P Jul 26 15:57:01 but track that bug, that's what we are waiting on Jul 26 15:57:37 ok. thanks! Jul 26 16:00:47 Stskeeps: i tried to build an img in debian and it didnt work Jul 26 16:01:47 Macer: we tell people to build in fedora for good reason Jul 26 16:01:57 ah ok. Jul 26 16:02:08 is meego not debian based? Jul 26 16:02:11 no Jul 26 16:02:39 the instructions i read had mic2 instructions for debian so i figured i would use what i had on hand Jul 26 16:03:03 fedora based? or is it simply its own thing? Jul 26 16:03:15 own thing, but mic2 works on fedora 12 Jul 26 16:03:15 :P Jul 26 16:03:23 ok Jul 26 16:03:28 evening lbt, how's the weather up north? Jul 26 16:03:36 i will make a fedora vbox when i get the chance today Jul 26 16:03:46 hey Stskeeps.... nice and sunny here Jul 26 16:03:49 and use that as a "dev" box Jul 26 16:03:52 ;) Jul 26 16:04:09 * lbt thinks about going for a sauna to cool down Jul 26 16:04:12 let me start a fedora 12 download Jul 26 16:04:55 Stskeeps: so I didn't realise madhu was on your team... Jul 26 16:05:36 lbt: uhm, me neither - i thought meego QA Jul 26 16:06:23 well, meego-arm ... Jul 26 16:06:38 he was showing me meego on the n900 ... first time I've seen it there Jul 26 16:06:50 lbt: well, he does QA for our images so Jul 26 16:06:59 yeah... Jul 26 16:07:04 (which should logically be an activity outside the team as to not taint the process) Jul 26 16:07:07 :P Jul 26 16:07:10 Stskeeps: it has to be 12? Jul 26 16:07:18 it cant be fedora 13? Jul 26 16:07:24 Macer: one of those, but 12 is what i know works Jul 26 16:07:37 pah... developers should be responsible for QA Jul 26 16:07:41 hm. i will see if i can find 12 then Jul 26 16:08:03 i disagree Jul 26 16:08:15 developers are too busy coding ;) Jul 26 16:08:24 developers have tendancies to take the short path Jul 26 16:08:56 plus. no offense to Stskeeps .. but his meego/maemo explaination sounded like someone going in 10 directions at once Jul 26 16:09:02 responsible for.... not "allowed to sign-off on".... *huge* difference Jul 26 16:09:03 ;) Jul 26 16:09:45 might be his translation into english but it was hard to follow Jul 26 16:09:51 they should not be paid until the QA guy says "yes" Jul 26 16:10:02 haha Jul 26 16:10:07 no banannas! Jul 26 16:10:10 that's rough Jul 26 16:10:17 code monkey no banana? Jul 26 16:10:19 :( Jul 26 16:10:43 * lbt loses his banana for tonight for spelling banana wrong :( Jul 26 16:10:58 Stskeeps: if you want i can try helping you out with the writing part for the wiki etc Jul 26 16:11:56 it will help me contribute ;) Jul 26 16:20:38 :nod: Jul 26 16:22:06 ok. i am downloading fedora 12 and 13 now Jul 26 16:22:59 i will try 13 and 12 out Jul 26 16:23:48 maybe i can work on making a distributable vdisk to make it easier for people Jul 26 16:25:34 Hi, all. I have just installed Meego 1.0 on my ultraportable. How do I define the layout switching? Should I do that through HAL files, or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? Jul 26 16:27:19 alrighty then. Jul 26 17:14:20 DawnFoster: everything's settled about conference location btw? (looking into plane tickets and hotel booking early on) Jul 26 17:15:30 Stskeeps: we're going to have a hotel room block with hotel discounts, so you might want to wait a few days. Jul 26 17:15:39 We should have the details August 1 Jul 26 17:15:46 DawnFoster: alright Jul 26 17:16:03 thanks for the info :) Jul 26 17:16:04 * thiago will have to start getting his second-half travels booked soon Jul 26 17:42:50 hm Jul 26 17:43:05 what larger tablets does meego support? Jul 26 17:43:27 or is the aava the only official supported device? Jul 26 17:43:37 aava's hardly a larger tablet :P Jul 26 17:43:41 with the exception of x86 netbooks? Jul 26 17:43:45 heh Jul 26 17:43:56 aava is just an atom phone isnt it? Jul 26 17:44:09 mm, wouldn't say just Jul 26 17:45:11 well... :) Jul 26 17:45:31 is there anything released or on its way that is similar to an ipad in size? Jul 26 17:46:02 some of the x86 tablets? Jul 26 17:46:04 meego uses btrfs? Jul 26 17:46:23 yes Jul 26 17:46:25 Stskeeps: can you give me an example of one? Jul 26 17:46:36 dunno Jul 26 17:47:32 lol Jul 26 17:47:35 Macer, lennovo has a pinetrail atom hybrid netbook/tablet Jul 26 17:47:50 i think meego can run on it Jul 26 17:47:57 hm Jul 26 17:50:07 aava is mobile phone Jul 26 17:50:16 I have a lenovo ideapad S10-3t Jul 26 17:50:22 the touchscreen is supported since 2.6.34 Jul 26 17:50:43 thiago: can you separate it from the kb? Jul 26 17:53:07 thiago: wow Jul 26 17:53:14 that thing is awesome ;) Jul 26 17:54:12 iirc, you can't separate it from the kb Jul 26 17:54:24 but the screen swivels Jul 26 17:56:50 yeah Jul 26 17:57:00 it is nice but the kb is too big Jul 26 17:57:31 the touchbook was a good idea that wound up being a total piece of crap Jul 26 17:59:13 http://www.gadgetfolder.com/dreambook-epad-l11-pine-trail-tablet-with-next-gen-nvidia-ion-3g-module.html Jul 26 18:02:02 that thing looks perfect for meego :) Jul 26 18:02:13 well, except for the ion thing Jul 26 18:03:52 ion rocks Jul 26 18:03:56 except for the driver Jul 26 18:03:57 :P Jul 26 18:05:21 it's got the pinetrail, so in theory, you may be able to use either the intel or nvidia gfx Jul 26 18:05:26 if they enable that... Jul 26 18:11:25 I have installed Meego on my Thinkpad X200s. After an update I lost the sound - absolutely. Can anybody help me? Jul 26 18:14:48 ilembitov, is it muted by chance? Jul 26 18:16:49 tripzero: I wish it were. Alsamixer also shows that I only have one channel for output (master) and one - for input (capture). Nothing else. Looks like it dropped the necessary module, but I don't know what to do Jul 26 18:17:37 ilembitov, check pavucontrol Jul 26 18:17:46 (it may not be installed by default) Jul 26 18:21:06 tripzero: doesn't help. Is that okay that my lsmod output doesn't show any sound card-related entries? Jul 26 18:21:40 hmm Jul 26 18:21:46 that would be a problem Jul 26 18:22:34 ilembitov, i guess you could find out what module your soundcard needs and try to manually modprobe it Jul 26 18:23:00 maybe it needs to be rebuilt against the newer/updated kernel Jul 26 18:23:05 i had to rebuild my wifi module Jul 26 18:23:28 ilembitov, also search bugs.meego.com and see if anyone has had the same issue Jul 26 18:23:33 and possibly found a workaround Jul 26 18:23:37 tripzero: You mean, I have to wait for a further update? I don't want to rebuild my kernel Jul 26 18:23:50 not rebuild the entire kernel, just the module Jul 26 18:24:08 tripzero: how do I do that? Jul 26 18:24:19 but see if you can manually insmod/modprobe the one that's already on the ssytem Jul 26 18:24:32 you'll have to do some googleing about your hardware to find which module it needs Jul 26 18:24:54 also check dmesg... i suppose an error might pop up there as well Jul 26 18:25:30 finally, if you can't find what's wrong or an existing bug, create a new bug Jul 26 18:26:26 tripzero: are the RPMs in Meego sync with Fedora? Jul 26 18:26:34 no Jul 26 18:26:37 they are not in sync Jul 26 18:50:05 hey all - I've got some display weirdness with the 1.0.80.11.20100720.2 handset build Jul 26 18:50:12 if I try and run anything Jul 26 18:50:39 if I try and run anything that isn't a native Meego app, I just get a white screen Jul 26 18:51:45 what arch? Jul 26 18:51:51 it's on x86 Jul 26 18:51:59 report it as a bug but i think it's a duplicate Jul 26 18:52:26 (happens on x86 and arm) Jul 26 18:52:39 never mind, I have to go Jul 26 19:06:36 hi Jul 26 19:06:55 is it true that someone did manage to get a working meego with emgd on a joggler ? Jul 26 19:08:15 there's a video showing it, at least Jul 26 19:08:26 yep but it may be a fake :/ Jul 26 19:08:28 it's v.v. cool Jul 26 19:08:32 vlj: not fake Jul 26 19:08:32 :P Jul 26 19:08:36 not a fake Jul 26 19:08:43 but reproducible ? Jul 26 19:08:50 heh Jul 26 19:09:03 I mean emgd drivers seem not to be released do they ? Jul 26 19:09:08 vlj: have you got a joggler Jul 26 19:09:14 no Jul 26 19:09:21 I have a gma 500 powered netbook ^^ Jul 26 19:09:31 ah... Jul 26 19:09:57 vlj: they seem to be part of the ivi builds for 1.0, but needs a fair deal of handiwork to get things working Jul 26 19:10:03 ok Jul 26 19:10:05 the video shows the url if you click the description Jul 26 19:10:09 btw vgrade... have you tried neverputt and the other never?? games? Jul 26 19:10:19 and Jul 26 19:10:30 playability is crap but the glx is sweeeeeet Jul 26 19:10:30 vlj, what happens when you run a stock meego image Jul 26 19:10:31 any chance to get meego to work with nvidia gfx ? Jul 26 19:10:38 vlj: what kind of netbook, out of curiousity? Jul 26 19:10:42 black screen Jul 26 19:10:45 t91mt Jul 26 19:11:01 vlj: it is probably possible to generate your own image. noone has made a .ks for this purpose yet i believe :P Jul 26 19:11:10 ok Jul 26 19:12:04 what is the nvidia situation anyway? closed kernel driver? Jul 26 19:12:20 yup Jul 26 19:12:31 it did not run on moblin Jul 26 19:12:36 and not on meego it seems Jul 26 19:12:54 yeah, cos meego can't legally redistribute Jul 26 19:12:54 :P Jul 26 19:12:54 lbt, not enough hours in the day for games Jul 26 19:13:08 vgrade: just to see it... give it a go Jul 26 19:13:27 I think the initial effort for non-meego glx will be radeon BTW Jul 26 19:13:51 because of open source drivers availability ? Jul 26 19:13:53 Hi, again. Turns out, I was totally dumb. Nothing wrong with my audio, it's just that I didn't realise that a distro that has Adobe by default doesn't have any codecs. Is there any way to get those without compiling them from scratch? Jul 26 19:14:16 vlj: yes Jul 26 19:14:24 vlj, can you build a netbook image from a stock .ks Jul 26 19:14:41 i did not try yet Jul 26 19:14:41 no point beating ourselves up to run nvidia closed ones until we go down an open route first Jul 26 19:14:47 vlj: does a nvidia 2.6.33 module exist? Jul 26 19:14:59 err yes Jul 26 19:15:05 ok Jul 26 19:15:25 nvidia installator works with ubuntu (kernel 2.6.33) Jul 26 19:15:35 with oss 11.3 (kernel 2.6.34) Jul 26 19:15:46 other people just use dkms Jul 26 19:15:51 dkms ? Jul 26 19:16:02 yes, the solution that was created by dell for binary drivers Jul 26 19:16:06 ok Jul 26 19:16:07 * lbt makes a note to grab InformatiQ's meego-mirror scripts Jul 26 19:16:27 * thiago uses dkms for the nvidia driver for nvidia Jul 26 19:16:35 I use nouveau Jul 26 19:16:43 you are all foss failures ._. Jul 26 19:17:13 * lbt uses radeon .... that's foss Jul 26 19:17:43 thiago: and you ran it on meego ? Jul 26 19:18:57 btw is meego built with gcc or icc ? Jul 26 19:19:03 as it is intel sponsored Jul 26 19:19:13 gcc Jul 26 19:19:14 gcc Jul 26 19:19:17 ok Jul 26 19:19:23 icc has a license from hell Jul 26 19:19:32 that is ? Jul 26 19:19:47 an intel one Jul 26 19:19:52 * lbt things intel should build the atom ssse3 meego using icc Jul 26 19:19:52 it's not foss Jul 26 19:20:05 and a generic x86 using gcc Jul 26 19:20:27 you can't redistribute icc created binaries I think lbt Jul 26 19:20:31 or something like that Jul 26 19:20:36 ScottishDuck: rofl Jul 26 19:21:20 that's as insane as selling video cameraa using a codec that prohibits redistribution.... ;) Jul 26 19:21:46 probably scared of amd stealing their code Jul 26 19:21:49 if you cant redistribute, what can you do with icc ? Jul 26 19:21:52 lbt: is there a migration plan re community obs once there's new hw, or is it 'erase all projects'? Jul 26 19:22:00 erase Jul 26 19:22:04 * lbt is lazy Jul 26 19:22:14 k Jul 26 19:22:25 although it's likely they'll run concurrently Jul 26 19:22:39 and it should be easy to script a transfer Jul 26 19:23:01 vlj: build a system for personal use Jul 26 19:23:09 but I think it's safer for me to deny responsibility :) Jul 26 19:23:25 so it's not targeted at developper ? Jul 26 19:23:30 Gentoo is the only os where you can really use icc effectively Jul 26 19:24:32 I believe icc is used internally, they just let people download it for research or personal compiling Jul 26 19:25:33 Are there any MeeGo handset type development devices available? Jul 26 19:25:41 RobotGuy: the n900? Jul 26 19:25:51 RobotGuy: the ava thing ? Jul 26 19:25:57 that costs ... a lot Jul 26 19:26:14 You're not supposed to buy it Jul 26 19:26:20 it's basically handed out to devs Jul 26 19:29:13 Aava (double A) Jul 26 19:30:19 he said "development device" ;) Jul 26 19:30:40 vlj, can you create a netbook image from a .ks file? Jul 26 19:30:47 err Jul 26 19:30:51 maybe Jul 26 19:31:03 vlj: sure you can Jul 26 19:31:06 is there some repo for opensuse 11.3 to install mic ? Jul 26 19:31:11 follow the wiki instructions... Jul 26 19:31:23 vlj: no... 11.2 only afaik for now Jul 26 19:31:33 well it should works Jul 26 19:31:37 unless anyone says different Jul 26 19:31:42 "should" Jul 26 19:31:47 vlj, can you build a netbook image from a .ks file Jul 26 19:31:49 mic is prissy Jul 26 19:31:57 vgrade: i'm trying Jul 26 19:32:21 sorry, scrolling problem. Jul 26 19:32:30 ok Jul 26 19:32:35 vlj, have you seen jogglerwiki Jul 26 19:33:22 yup Jul 26 19:33:56 but it seems so unreal that someone had manage to get a gma 500 powered device to run with meego Jul 26 19:34:06 without the world knowing it Jul 26 19:34:20 the world = guys that owns a gma 500 and would like to use linux on it Jul 26 19:34:26 ok, do you want to try and get it on your netbook Jul 26 19:34:32 yup Jul 26 19:34:36 vlj: people complain a lot Jul 26 19:34:36 :P Jul 26 19:35:37 i'm personally happy cos now i have a touchscreen device i can use handset UX on. Jul 26 19:35:37 what we need you to do is setup a build environment which allows you to build a netbook image Jul 26 19:36:03 vlj: what is your base distro? Jul 26 19:36:08 opensuse 11.3 Jul 26 19:36:26 i'm downloading mic2 for oS11.2 Jul 26 19:36:34 OK Jul 26 19:37:13 which .ks should I use ? Jul 26 19:37:35 I need emgd drivers Jul 26 19:37:35 once you can generate an image which boots to black hopefully I will have a kernel you can use Jul 26 19:37:46 ok Jul 26 19:38:20 if you can get the toolset right first we can then give you a .ks which will point at the EMGD drivers Jul 26 19:38:25 and kernel Jul 26 19:39:04 drivers are here, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0/1.0.0.5.20100707.2/ivi/repos/ia32/packages/i586/ Jul 26 19:40:01 I have mic2 Jul 26 19:40:03 vgrade: can you make sure you update the meego wiki with notes/tweaks that you find Jul 26 19:40:08 (and vlj) Jul 26 19:40:20 ok Jul 26 19:40:44 thanks... it helps to justify the time we spend writing some of this stuff Jul 26 19:41:16 lbt, did you have any notes/tweaks? Jul 26 19:41:17 Mirv: you paying attention ;) Jul 26 19:41:36 nah... I've not run mic2 yet ;) Jul 26 19:42:11 where can I found the default.ks kickstart files ? Jul 26 19:42:12 I never had a device to test images on until saturday \o/ Jul 26 19:42:30 To obtain the official Meego .ks files, go here: TO-DO-LINK Jul 26 19:42:37 what a usefull advice ;) Jul 26 19:42:41 http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation Jul 26 19:42:49 hang on, kids interrupt Jul 26 19:42:53 submit a bugreport :) Jul 26 19:42:54 hi Jul 26 19:43:30 there's a gitorious project but I think anaZ needs to update it Jul 26 19:43:33 can someone pls tell me how to manage network in meego without using the system tray? Jul 26 19:43:35 and he's not onlione Jul 26 19:44:14 i know it's conman & connmand Jul 26 19:44:27 http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Official_Meego_.ks_files Jul 26 19:44:48 every time i unplug my usb-wifi, i can't get it to work Jul 26 19:44:58 31 march... Jul 26 19:45:05 have to reboot to get the usb-wifi to work after an unplug Jul 26 19:45:45 dailylinux: same... bug report? Jul 26 19:46:05 lbt: samme issue there as well? Jul 26 19:46:21 no... as in "please file one" :) Jul 26 19:46:56 * Stskeeps signs off for tonight Jul 26 19:47:01 lbt: i mean you have the experienced the problem with usb-wifi? Jul 26 19:47:02 plus then you can ask on here and say "and I filed a bug report" in a self-righteous tone ;) Jul 26 19:47:12 dailylinux: no Jul 26 19:47:16 ah Jul 26 19:47:19 i see Jul 26 19:47:20 night Stskeeps o/ Jul 26 19:47:38 bye Stskeeps Jul 26 19:47:43 hello lbt et dailylinux Jul 26 19:47:59 hi Jul 26 19:48:03 vlj, still there Jul 26 19:48:30 just booting my VM , should have a link to the .ks Jul 26 19:48:34 soon Jul 26 19:49:07 vgrade: see my url ^^^^ not that one? Jul 26 19:49:26 ok Jul 26 19:50:22 DawnFoster: pingy .... who broke the meego wiki css? search box is at the bottom of the page Jul 26 19:50:34 I want to see more tablet devices released. The iPad is a good idea, but not quite enough - no USB. Jul 26 19:50:51 RobotGuy: T101MT ? ^^ Jul 26 19:51:17 vlj: ?? Jul 26 19:51:20 or the hp tm/tx ones Jul 26 19:51:20 lbt: http://wiki.meego.com ? Jul 26 19:51:26 looks OK on my screen Jul 26 19:51:46 RobotGuy: the T101MT is a convertible netbook Jul 26 19:51:46 what are you using browser / platform? Jul 26 19:52:01 it acts as a tablet, but with a keyboard Jul 26 19:52:06 firefox/debian Jul 26 19:52:25 The wiki looks fine here also. Jul 26 19:52:34 vlj: Ah, OK. :) Jul 26 19:52:35 the input box on the LHS does a css float to the bottom of the page Jul 26 19:52:41 looks fine on firefox & safari on the mac Jul 26 19:53:00 OK... maybe it's my machine... :) Jul 26 19:53:05 RobotGuy: "true" tablets will come in Q4 2010 Jul 26 19:53:15 anyone else seeing issues with the wiki css? Jul 26 19:54:29 lbt,vlj thanks lbt, slight delay there as I cranked up the VM Jul 26 19:54:56 vlj, ping me when you have created an image which gets you to the black screen Jul 26 19:55:26 ok Jul 26 19:55:54 I want a true tablet. Jul 26 19:56:10 A tablet would be perfect for carrying with me when I go out. Jul 26 19:56:35 iPad Jul 26 19:56:36 :3 Jul 26 19:56:42 DawnFoster: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/4831345463/#/photos/96141280@N00/4831345463/lightbox/ Jul 26 19:57:18 hello all, I'm trying to boot meego on a sylvania netbook with a ultra mobile processor ... but I'm having trouble making the usb boot, any idea? Jul 26 19:57:18 weird - can you file a bug for it? Jul 26 19:58:22 Are all MeeGo devices based on Intel Atom hardware? Jul 26 19:58:35 yup.... is meego bugzilla sso ? Jul 26 19:58:51 lbt: yep Jul 26 19:59:05 there is a section for wiki bugs under web infrastructure, I think Jul 26 19:59:10 The N900 may actually be a really good device for me. Jul 26 19:59:44 lbt: I read something about poulsbo in the surrounding comments and immediately lost interest :) Jul 26 19:59:48 nm... this laptop keyb is a bit flakey Jul 26 19:59:56 but I guess the question was about ks files instead Jul 26 20:00:08 Mirv: don't.... your Nokia netbook may finally run meego ;) Jul 26 20:00:52 They have apparently run the same Tech Guy episode twice now. Jul 26 20:01:01 Oops, wrong chat, sorry Jul 26 20:03:35 lbt: I don't have nokia netbook.... Jul 26 20:03:49 is that ahma? Jul 26 20:04:04 yep. I've my Dell Latitude 2110 precisely (among else) to avoid poulsbo :) Jul 26 20:04:45 Latitude :-( Jul 26 20:05:02 I was just today wondering does Dell have *any* laptops that don't overheat Jul 26 20:05:04 yeah... I normally make sure on the HW side... apart from the 3 Jogglers ..... D'OH Jul 26 20:05:16 lbt: sell me one Jul 26 20:05:18 Myrtti: well... my netbook Latitude surely doesn't... Jul 26 20:05:33 Atom N470, 16GB SDD \o/ Jul 26 20:05:37 vgrade: I have the following error Jul 26 20:05:39 http://pastebin.com/DFDTEBV1 Jul 26 20:05:41 ssd, that is Jul 26 20:06:14 and my D630 doesn't much overheat either, it seems to be more like variable of how much dust there is inside. D600 is madly hot. Jul 26 20:06:14 Mirv: I bet I could make it overheat with Skype Jul 26 20:06:39 Myrtti: if you like.... I shipped 2 to the US, 5 to germany, 1 to poland.... Jul 26 20:06:50 Myrtti: that's why you shouldn't run the proprietary crap *hides* Jul 26 20:07:38 Mirv: as soon as you find a Voip/sip client that runs on Mac with video, I'm ready to swap Jul 26 20:08:07 'coz we've tried several and all have trouble Jul 26 20:08:21 well I have to go for tonight :/ Jul 26 20:08:34 I should be there tomorro vgrade Jul 26 20:08:51 Myrtti: I guess you mean Mac-the-software, with which you may advise to read the comment above as well Jul 26 20:09:21 but but but.... it's white!!! Jul 26 20:09:37 vlj, when I had mic problems stskeeps suggested getting the latest form git, http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/image-creator/trees/master Jul 26 20:09:40 Mirv: with Linux it lags... Jul 26 20:10:20 aw crap, I cocked my nail polish Jul 26 20:10:21 vgrade.... nag Mirv Jul 26 20:11:04 lbt, ? Jul 26 20:11:17 indeed mic2 from git is probably better than the random packages that have been wandering around Jul 26 20:11:18 for things in the docs... Jul 26 20:11:51 Myrtti: you sound like my wife.... "oi. you. make coffee... my nails are drying" Jul 26 20:12:49 lbt: I can't make such requests, the distance to our kitchen is too long Jul 26 20:12:59 doesn't bother her... Jul 26 20:13:08 lbt: mine is about 1000miles... Jul 26 20:13:19 Jul 26 20:13:59 * Myrtti checks how long until the flight Jul 26 20:15:00 I like that my router has "reboot" under "diagnostics" Jul 26 20:15:33 11 days, 19 hours, 19 minutes Jul 26 20:15:43 Myrtti: to coffee? Jul 26 20:16:28 lbt: landing to Stansted Jul 26 20:16:39 Stansted? Jul 26 20:16:53 I thought you were based over here in Hel Jul 26 20:17:03 lbt: nope, Tampere Jul 26 20:17:10 lbt: and Warboys, Cambs Jul 26 20:17:23 heh... I used to live up near Ipswich Jul 26 20:17:31 and commute from cambs Jul 26 20:18:37 first trip there was a bit of a chock for a Finn used to trees and hills Jul 26 20:18:43 shock, even Jul 26 20:18:55 it's...................................................flat..................................................... Jul 26 20:19:11 stupid bloody chromium *kick* Jul 26 20:19:25 oh well. Skype or Chromium, pick one. Jul 26 20:20:52 hello... i added my own application list to garage... and i was working perfectly, but not im getting this error: http://pastie.org/1060547 and at this moment the application stops resolving the packages. the applications that are already resolved cant be installed because when i click install it seems to add to the queue, since other ones are stuck at "Resolving..." can anyone help? Jul 26 20:21:51 anyone know how to use connmand to control network? Jul 26 20:24:11 "ifup" "ifdown" those things? Jul 26 20:36:23 what's happening in theworldofbrad? Jul 26 20:38:49 CosmoHill: no, i meant how connman handles devices Jul 26 20:39:19 DawnFoster: hi, do you know who's organising the participants from Intel to LinuxCon Brazil? Jul 26 20:41:18 CosmoHill: theworldofbrad ? Jul 26 20:41:36 the guy who just joined Jul 26 20:41:51 I was asking "how are you" in what I had hoped was an amusing way Jul 26 20:42:30 * RobotGuy was amused Jul 26 20:43:43 CosmoHill: i see Jul 26 20:44:03 CosmoHill: are you into Meego's inside? Jul 26 20:45:14 no Jul 26 20:45:20 * CosmoHill hides the butchers knife Jul 26 20:45:31 :) Jul 26 20:50:36 Thiago: not sure - maybe Amy. Jul 26 20:50:40 I can try to find out. Jul 26 20:52:17 DawnFoster: I know Amy is involved in the sponsoring Jul 26 20:52:20 and Dirk Jul 26 20:52:40 hey DawnFoster and thiago Jul 26 20:52:42 Amy also usually coordinates who is attending the events. Jul 26 20:52:50 hey CosmoHill Jul 26 20:53:06 why does Amy sound familar... Jul 26 20:53:29 thiago - I'm going on vacation as of a few hours from now - feel free to reach out to Amy to ask her Jul 26 20:53:38 I'll ask her Jul 26 20:53:40 thanks Dawn Jul 26 20:53:44 and have a nice vacation Jul 26 20:53:48 cosmohill: she's heading up some of the meego conference activities Jul 26 20:53:52 thanks Jul 26 20:53:53 DawnFoster: enjoy your holiday :) Jul 26 20:54:01 just going back to Ohio to visit family. Jul 26 20:54:39 CosmoHill: amy organised the MeeGo conf Jul 26 20:55:18 well, the location at least Jul 26 20:56:24 * CosmoHill imagines Amy with darks and a map of the world Jul 26 20:57:40 let's put it this way: if you see Intel sponsoring a FOSS event, you can bet Amy had a hand in it :-) Jul 26 20:58:18 hehe Jul 26 21:05:08 and she's cool :-) Jul 26 21:07:59 yay Jul 26 21:08:03 always a bonus Jul 26 21:13:55 now signing off Jul 26 21:14:30 cyas Jul 26 21:38:54 nite all, sweet dreams Jul 26 23:13:46 vlj, run out of time tonight to build the netbook kernel, give me a shout tomorrow Jul 26 23:37:16 cyas Jul 27 00:34:38 Does meego support GMA-500 chipset? Jul 27 01:13:02 Not officially. Jul 27 01:59:10 alrighty Jul 27 01:59:17 let me go ahead and make a fedora 12 vbox Jul 27 02:21:35 how does the dual booting work on the n900? Jul 27 02:21:46 do i have to wipe the sd and allow it to partition or something? Jul 27 02:22:47 i'm making a fedora 12 vbox just for meego stuff. wonder why the swap to fedora from the debian or ubuntu style maemo was using. i mean not that i mind either way but i was curious **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 27 02:59:56 2010