**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 28 02:59:56 2010 Jul 28 05:37:46 I want to re-arrange the panel icons in some different order, Please let me know if i can do it without compiling the mutter/Uxlaunch Jul 28 05:39:18 and also i want to delete some panel icons Jul 28 05:53:06 Sanjay: What is the device you are working on? Jul 28 05:53:36 working on cloud computing,(netbook) Jul 28 05:57:05 Sanjay: see the settings, some icons could be removed and added Jul 28 06:00:23 thanks Dear, But I need AutoLoginthat --> my application with panel without any application Iconsl --> Icon should be loaded after successful completion of my application. Jul 28 06:01:41 need to know the file in meego which is responsible to load the icons from libexec, Like in moblin file "/etc/xdg/moblin/xinitrc" is doing the thing Jul 28 06:02:47 did you read uxlaunch source code like i asked you to? Jul 28 06:04:05 yes, i modified it Jul 28 06:04:26 but not getting the actual result Jul 28 06:04:35 did you read the files it reads? :P Jul 28 06:04:43 yes Jul 28 06:05:40 if you type pstree, it will give you all th details about the files it reads. Jul 28 06:06:07 well, no, i'm talking about the .desktop files Jul 28 06:06:33 so uxlaunch is also calling mutter, at that time i need my application should run. Jul 28 06:07:14 i have gone through the source code of uxlaunch and all .desktop files Jul 28 06:08:10 using .desktop file i am able to run my application but after loading all the panel icons Jul 28 06:08:55 "/etc/xdg/autostart/" At this location you will get all the .desktop file Jul 28 06:10:11 i created my file with the as test.desktop and under Exec:"Path to my script with application" at the same location Jul 28 06:43:44 dl9pf: Provides: pac:/file/from/pac does it work on MeeGo ? Jul 28 06:45:02 probably not, it's a suse thing Jul 28 07:14:58 fabo: git head of obs knows this now, but rpm needs to support it - so atm the answer is both no. Jul 28 07:23:15 dl9pf: then for package split, I should use a transitonal package ? Jul 28 07:23:50 hmm, good question. Jul 28 07:54:35 hi Jul 28 07:54:44 got a question about moblin/meego and supported hardware Jul 28 07:55:02 a while ago i stumbled upon moblin and after reading some and likng the idea decided to try it out, unforunatelly at that time the device in question was not reasonably supported (samsung n150) and looks like at 2.1 level wifi still is no go and samsung tree only goes to n130, while meego doesnt list any samsungs at all Jul 28 07:55:19 if i am getting this right - there is no future for that netbook and moblin/meego usable at full capacity? Jul 28 07:59:13 I thought it was on the list Jul 28 07:59:20 * Myrtti checks again Jul 28 08:00:14 well, there are some samsungs on the list Jul 28 08:00:29 which lista are you looking at? Jul 28 08:00:41 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices ? Jul 28 08:01:12 on unrelated note, I just managed to make a fairly good cup of coffee. whee. Jul 28 08:10:36 hmm i looked at http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0/meego-v1.0-netbooks Jul 28 08:10:45 wiki list os more comprehensive Jul 28 08:11:21 s/os/is/ Jul 28 08:11:55 n150 is a bit more dvanced but it is not that dfferent from n150 Jul 28 08:13:45 i prsume atom n450/3150 is official supported? Jul 28 08:15:04 any panel experts around? i need some help fixing the network panel using NetworkManager please Jul 28 08:21:00 and the wifi n150 has is atheros 9285, is that supported? Jul 28 08:21:31 ath9k? Jul 28 08:22:49 that would the module i'd use on full blown linux, yes Jul 28 08:23:48 same deal Jul 28 08:24:04 but if you plan to use an out of the box image it might or might not be supported Jul 28 08:24:21 that is the plan Jul 28 08:24:54 well I'm just saying you might need a different kernel or kernel modules Jul 28 08:24:55 and if it is not supported oob then i'm kinda screwed Jul 28 08:28:57 can you also point me towards a list of default software packages on the image please? Jul 28 09:05:58 any panel expert is here? Jul 28 09:38:11 ' morning Jul 28 09:39:00 hey Jul 28 09:40:00 what a bad bad summer here :/ Jul 28 09:40:25 aww Jul 28 09:40:29 it's been petty good here Jul 28 09:42:50 rain has become a bit of a novelty Jul 28 09:42:59 holiday on rain.. sniff i wan't to run, to swim, to watch the girl.. but no only rain :) ... Only Qt is cool Jul 28 09:43:21 rain has become a bit of a novelty Jul 28 09:43:28 if it keeps raining swimming won't be to hard :p Jul 28 09:44:58 40C with 75% humidity, now thats what i call a summer :) Jul 28 09:45:05 oops Jul 28 09:46:40 amjad, lucky guys Jul 28 09:47:12 so far it's been swimming once this year Jul 28 09:47:21 it's hard to swim when two boys are trying to dunk you Jul 28 09:48:29 :) Jul 28 09:51:22 * CosmoHill goes off to uni to shout at clusters and play with openmpi Jul 28 09:53:09 what do you think about http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4003 if this is not a bug we have to use app-panel like a iphone? Jul 28 09:54:25 like a horrific iphone i mean Jul 28 10:21:30 . Jul 28 11:17:48 anyone using firefox 3.6.4 ... can you check http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4028 Jul 28 11:18:39 lbt: works fine on 3.6.6 Jul 28 11:19:25 would be nice if it's a 3.6.4 bug and we don't need to waste time on it :) Jul 28 11:20:37 lbt: works fine on 3.6.8 Jul 28 11:21:12 3.6.4 == IE 6.... Jul 28 11:21:22 * lbt scrabbles for an upgrade... Jul 28 11:22:03 Hehe, search box looks fine in IE6 btw :) Jul 28 11:22:17 Only the left column is rendered below the content ;) Jul 28 11:33:48 IE6 :D Jul 28 13:11:55 has anyone seen the leaked nokia meego fone pictures? Jul 28 13:12:46 probably fake Jul 28 13:12:48 dunno, url? Jul 28 13:12:55 where is it? Jul 28 13:12:56 Stskeeps++ Jul 28 13:13:05 its pretending to be a prototype Jul 28 13:13:07 but its fake Jul 28 13:13:13 where? Jul 28 13:13:20 hang on Jul 28 13:13:29 ok...thanks Jul 28 13:13:47 cached version of the page (they deleted it) Jul 28 13:13:51 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.mobile-users.net/2010/07/27/nokia-nx0-xml-concept-photo-inside/ Jul 28 13:14:23 thanks....we shouldnt write it off as fake, should we? Jul 28 13:14:36 fake Jul 28 13:14:40 we'll first really know if it's a fake or not when the next devices are coming Jul 28 13:15:21 qualcomm is obviously bullshit since nokia said on summit harmattan would be omap3 Jul 28 13:15:28 the picture doesnt really show anything Jul 28 13:15:54 Looks fake to me... design doesn't scream NOKIAAAAA Jul 28 13:16:41 Stskeeps: Though... suppose pure meego devices (>harmattan) are presented prior? Jul 28 13:17:05 actually nokia could do with some newer designs Jul 28 13:17:22 i dont want another plasticky brick Jul 28 13:18:39 so when is nokia announcing the meego device? any ideas? Jul 28 13:19:04 no clue Jul 28 13:19:17 Maemoboi: a wild guess would be at the MeeGo convention thing :) Jul 28 13:19:30 when is the convention? Jul 28 13:19:32 when jesus arrives and kills steve jobs, obviously Jul 28 13:20:23 leave jobs alone....kill him with a better os....until then long live jobs! Jul 28 13:21:34 in October or November, can't remember... Jul 28 13:21:36 google it? ;) Jul 28 13:22:13 november Jul 28 13:22:22 Stskeeps: cheers :) Jul 28 13:22:31 i know i can google but just thought meego xperts here would know Jul 28 13:23:27 its gonna be an uphill battle for meego if developers ignore it Jul 28 13:23:52 going to be difficult to ignore if the primary target for symbian devices will be qt too Jul 28 13:24:04 true that Jul 28 13:24:26 but do you see any killer apps for symbian? dont think so Jul 28 13:24:45 the problem right now is there's a new android phone on the market every other week Jul 28 13:24:53 So far there's the one meego phone ever. Jul 28 13:25:01 ehr maemo but well :) Jul 28 13:25:10 theres a meego phone ???? Jul 28 13:25:27 you talkin n900 ? Jul 28 13:25:28 yes N900 is meego-to-be Jul 28 13:25:40 well.... n900 is history Jul 28 13:25:58 shrug Jul 28 13:26:09 mypoint is - MOAR HW or bust Jul 28 13:26:35 just because i can run win 7 on a five year old pc dont mean its any useful Jul 28 13:26:51 whats moar hw ? Jul 28 13:27:08 'more hardware' Jul 28 13:27:32 * leinir hands Maemoboi a Lolcat-to-English dictionary ;) Jul 28 13:28:06 i have the n900 its an awesome device, so sad nokia's treating it like a bastard child Jul 28 13:28:23 Maemoboi: How're they doing that, then? Jul 28 13:28:47 By releasing two large software updates for it since it was created, and using it as a reference device for their handset version of MeeGo? ;) Jul 28 13:28:52 no promotions, no adds, no nothing....quiet release Jul 28 13:29:02 not entirely true Jul 28 13:29:07 no? Jul 28 13:29:11 You clearly haven't been to the UK ;) Jul 28 13:29:19 no to that Jul 28 13:29:36 but.....the n900 could be so much more Jul 28 13:30:02 But there's also the point that it was never really supposed to be as big a success as it has been - they can't keep up as it is, so there's really no need to promote it further ;) Jul 28 13:30:28 Maemoboi: and that's why we have the meego port Jul 28 13:30:29 :P Jul 28 13:31:05 the fact remains: meego will not be released officially for n900 correct? who wants to have an os put together by a bunch of hackers....errr I mean community members? Jul 28 13:31:18 Maemoboi: that's not true either really Jul 28 13:31:26 why? Jul 28 13:31:40 Maemoboi: No, it is being released officially - what /won't/ happen is meego showing up as a system update Jul 28 13:31:46 Stskeeps: Still there's the fact that they (from what is customer visible) don't seem to go _all_in_. That is it's still just the one piece of HW as w/ 8x0 and 770. I think for it ot be really viable a multitude of HW is needed on the market. Jul 28 13:31:49 Simply because it's such a drastic change that it wouldn't make sense to do so Jul 28 13:32:08 leinir: really? whered you hear that? Jul 28 13:32:10 Maemoboi: nokia has sponsored a rather large team to put meego (from meego.com!) on n900, with nokia employees/subcontractors/etc Jul 28 13:32:22 ok Jul 28 13:32:30 Maemoboi: kernel developers, etc, the professionals usually working on getting a product out too Jul 28 13:32:41 Maemoboi: what Stskeeps said ;) Jul 28 13:33:06 Maemoboi: so it's not really community members, but we would like people to participate Jul 28 13:33:08 ok Jul 28 13:33:30 so how will nokia release it to the public? through what means? Jul 28 13:33:50 well, it won't be a product (meego for n900) you can call Nokia Care about Jul 28 13:34:18 general way is go to tablets-dev.nokia.com, tap in your N900 IMEI, download an image after accepting it's not end user software Jul 28 13:34:49 Stskeeps: we, the nerds, the customers out there, want more hardware - what's in store for us? :) Jul 28 13:35:08 tybollt: not a hardware guy Jul 28 13:35:15 n900 is darn capable from a hacking point of view Jul 28 13:35:16 hmm ok Jul 28 13:35:21 i mean, we'll have open telephony stack on omap side.. Jul 28 13:35:37 really? Jul 28 13:35:38 but....by the time meego is ready for prime time will the N900 not be underpowered? Jul 28 13:35:47 Stskeeps: wow that's pretty... Jul 28 13:35:58 somebody said meego needs 1ghz Jul 28 13:36:20 Someone is also, it would seem, smoking crack ;) Jul 28 13:36:30 Oh then it must be true. Jul 28 13:36:31 ? Jul 28 13:36:31 Maemoboi: technically we'll want the device to be at low mhz most of the time to save battery Jul 28 13:36:45 running at full power just makes your hands warm Jul 28 13:36:46 :) Jul 28 13:36:57 i understand but will meego not require higher specs? Jul 28 13:37:11 well in the winter its a `nice to have` feature Jul 28 13:37:11 Stskeeps: there was a discussion somewhere about how that is actually a false saving Jul 28 13:37:23 (higher clock = done faster = more sleep, less battery) Jul 28 13:37:44 Maemoboi: the UI widgets gallery worked fine on n900, so Jul 28 13:38:16 w00t_: that's what he said. you go down to slowest speed as soon as possible after doing your task Jul 28 13:38:38 what about capacitive multitouch? Bye bye app compatibility no? Jul 28 13:39:07 Maemoboi: the general problem with people requiring multitouch is that they all start developing on SDKs with singletouch (a mouse).. Jul 28 13:39:07 Multitouch is overrated. Jul 28 13:39:18 Maemoboi: so there will be alternative methods unless the developer is braindead Jul 28 13:39:18 Especially when using your phone one handed ;) Jul 28 13:39:34 whether multitouch Jul 28 13:39:48 multitouch overrated? you gotta be joking Jul 28 13:39:51 X-Fade: "but steve jobs sez it's awsum!1111" Jul 28 13:40:05 For zooming it is nice, but there are not many things you need it for in phone mode. Jul 28 13:40:22 And it always requires two hands holding of the device. Jul 28 13:40:27 i donta wanna be poking with a freaking stylus like its 1999 Jul 28 13:40:42 Maemoboi: That is not what I said ;) Jul 28 13:40:56 X-fade: games mate Jul 28 13:41:20 Maemoboi: nowadays, people use sausages on multitouch screens instead. Jul 28 13:41:27 :D Jul 28 13:41:29 (hahaha) Jul 28 13:41:34 :D Jul 28 13:42:02 i have not once used the stylus on n900...except for when i want to scratch inside my ear Jul 28 13:42:20 it's useful for that indeed Jul 28 13:43:02 remind me never to touch your stylus Jul 28 13:43:13 just avoid touching my n900 in general Jul 28 13:43:14 :P Jul 28 13:43:37 n810 for the win Jul 28 13:44:49 my stylus scratched N900's screen so bad.. 6 months without screen protector :( Jul 28 13:45:35 worst think you could do to torture your device Jul 28 13:51:36 i am totally serious...when my ear itches i take out the stylus, otherwise no use for it Jul 28 13:51:48 Maemoboi: multitouch without alternative input methods than your .5x.5cm wide finger tips is overrated - provide hybrid stylus/multitouch input and then i'm interested Jul 28 13:51:58 so when you anus itches, you ...? Jul 28 13:52:30 tybollt: take head out of an orifice it shouldn't be in Jul 28 13:52:41 w00t_: :) Jul 28 13:52:44 tybollt: nah...the stylus' too short for that Jul 28 13:53:15 leinir: games, zooming, etc. Jul 28 13:54:13 Maemoboi: As i said - when i have the option to either use my finger or a stylus, then i'm interested Jul 28 13:54:34 The forced-finger crap that Apple and friends are pushing just makes my brain itch Jul 28 13:55:54 leinir: youre in the minority mate....stylus is overrated Jul 28 13:56:27 anyhow it doesnt matter since the next meego device will NOT have a stylus Jul 28 13:56:30 People are being told that choice is overrated, that's my gripe Jul 28 13:56:45 Right now i can use either a finger or a stylus on my n900 Jul 28 13:57:04 If people go with bog standard capacitative multitouch, then i no longer have that choice Jul 28 13:57:52 leinir: no mate...people once had a choice of either riding a car or a donkey/horse....times have changed and you dont now say it was good to have choice, do you? Jul 28 14:00:10 Yes, i most certainly do - and the choice is not car or donkey/other living creature. The choice is private or public transport Jul 28 14:00:34 And the same argument goes there - i like having the ability to use a car, but greatly enjoy being able to use the train when i've got the option Jul 28 14:01:25 choice is overrated Jul 28 14:01:35 let's all go android and go home Jul 28 14:01:59 Totally ;) Jul 28 14:02:03 leinir: the thing is it's pretty much concerned next meego device will be capacitive multitouch...so you're crying over spilled milk, bye bye stylus...time to move on mate. Jul 28 14:02:15 confirmed Jul 28 14:02:37 it's confirmed - i meant to write Jul 28 14:03:02 Maemoboi: The thing is, however, that the /next/ device is "confirmed" to be capacitative multitouch. It is not, however, the case for all meego devices ;) Jul 28 14:03:49 So no, i'm simply saying that the first device is a dud for me, and that i shall be waiting for the device which has a trans reflective screen with a wacom hybrid touch surface ;) Jul 28 14:03:50 well ....resistive meego devices will be lower end, wont they? Jul 28 14:04:46 that's another thing: why do we freaking need 27 or whatever different devices....make one flagship and shut up nokia Jul 28 14:05:20 There we go again - who needs choice Jul 28 14:05:50 leinir: mate if the choice is shit and then who cares about choice? Jul 28 14:09:41 Yeah. Because walking was just fine, why'd we need to go and invent something silly like the wheel Jul 28 14:09:44 leinir: o/ Jul 28 14:09:58 heliocastro: Heyhey! \o Jul 28 14:10:24 leinir: For the record, i prefer walk :-) Jul 28 14:10:44 heliocastro: If i can walk there, i do like to do so :) Jul 28 14:11:00 But i like the option of being able to hop in a car as well ;) Jul 28 14:15:46 I think Apple has pretty clearly shown that shipping 1001 products isn't the best way to go about it. Jul 28 14:16:11 GAN900: They've also pretty clearly shown that shipping exactly 1 device isn't the best way of going about it either ;) Jul 28 14:19:05 Nokia has chosen not to ship 1001 products Jul 28 14:19:09 it's only about a dozen now Jul 28 14:20:05 *nods* Clearly defined levels of devices :) Jul 28 14:20:06 can anyone confirm ath9x module/driver support in current release? Jul 28 14:22:47 Phazorx: have you tried any of the 1.0.80 builds ? Jul 28 14:23:09 leinir: and the number will reflect that Jul 28 14:23:15 N8 > E6, for instance Jul 28 14:23:30 slaine: actully i have not tried meego at all Jul 28 14:23:35 Phazorx, ath9k works Jul 28 14:23:36 E6 ~ X6 Jul 28 14:23:43 but when i tried moblin a while ago wifi wasnt supported where i needed Jul 28 14:23:54 koupsaa: oob, or with some tweaking? Jul 28 14:24:44 well, nothing it's just works Jul 28 14:24:47 thiago: *nods* Good stuff :) Jul 28 14:25:15 So basically a straight forward refresh of the entire numbering scheme, making the whole thing much simpler to handle in your head - i like ;) Jul 28 14:25:24 koupsaa: thank you Jul 28 14:26:06 Phazorx, not me, thx lsmod :) Jul 28 14:27:41 koupsaa: what hardware are you using btw? Jul 28 14:27:56 http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=268 this looks quite discouraging considering it's N150 Jul 28 14:27:59 If only they didn't hate resistive Jul 28 14:28:48 Phazorx, eeepc s101 Jul 28 14:29:36 koupsaa: i see Jul 28 14:32:05 Phazorx, do you have an usb stick? Jul 28 14:32:46 if yes you can try meego on live Jul 28 14:34:37 koupsaa: well kinda have to have one in oder to isntall anyway Jul 28 14:35:46 and that's what i plan doing... i'm just considering if it's meego i want to start with Jul 28 14:36:19 i like the interface, but if i need to customize it a lot i'd rather use something i am familiar with to start with Jul 28 14:37:33 for now it's not very easy to customize all, but i think i have not all the key to do that, but yes very nice Jul 28 14:39:23 It's not meant to be customizable Jul 28 14:39:42 question: when i launch 'gnome-appearance-properties' the windows change like i will. but when i restart meego, windows are ths same as install, only icon are changed Jul 28 14:39:44 If you have to heavily customize it then you're not the intended audience. Jul 28 14:40:07 koupsaa: strange Jul 28 14:40:11 sounds like a bug Jul 28 14:40:26 somethings' probably setting the gconf settings Jul 28 14:40:29 during boot Jul 28 14:41:25 ah or uxlaunch search a default file wich is not remplaced by gnome-appearance-properties Jul 28 14:41:52 slaine: what i meant by customizing is having to fix driver issues and add/remove software Jul 28 14:42:52 Phazorx, add/remove soft is like another linux Jul 28 14:43:29 another thing - i read a lot of dual booting issues on forum for HD install... is it unexperienced uesers fault or there are some deeper issues? Jul 28 14:44:24 cuz i have deployed quite a few win/lin combinations for friends and such and never had issues with grub for example Jul 28 14:45:33 meego doesn't use grub Jul 28 14:45:38 it uses syslinux Jul 28 14:46:08 which has issues? Jul 28 14:47:20 I don't know. I know I've heard other people have issue, but I've not looked Jul 28 14:47:55 more likely the issue is that other partitions aren't setup by default when people install Jul 28 14:48:10 I've only got an 8G SSD in my dell mini9, so I don't dual boot Jul 28 14:48:26 i see Jul 28 14:48:38 thanks anyway Jul 28 14:51:19 Phazorx, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=270&highlight=dual , not tested no space on netbook for dual Jul 28 16:23:32 X-Fade: should http://downloads.obs.maemo.org/ be publically available over DNS ? Jul 28 16:35:06 Hello ! Jul 28 16:35:11 actually X-Fade.... meego has download.meego.com... Jul 28 16:35:12 hi Jul 28 16:35:14 hi Khertan Jul 28 16:35:26 hi lbt Jul 28 16:35:58 * Khertan is trying to port his khteditor to pyside as pyside is available for Meego ... Jul 28 16:36:00 ;) Jul 28 16:36:19 neat... I'll be doing community OBS work tonight Jul 28 16:36:46 oo yes, lbt is there a meeting tonight? Jul 28 16:37:03 nah... they've given up on meetings... too sunny Jul 28 16:39:35 but QtMaemo5 does seems to be available on Meego pyside binding Jul 28 16:39:37 :( Jul 28 17:16:31 heya :) folks Jul 28 17:16:53 Stskeeps: ping Jul 28 17:18:25 koupsaa: thanks, i know about many ways to make win/lin working... and that's why i am surprised many people can't get it to work Jul 28 17:18:52 unless there are some BIOS level issues preventin to boot from high LBA or something specific to netbooks Jul 28 18:44:10 . Jul 28 18:44:19 exactly Jul 28 18:46:51 indeed Jul 28 18:55:20 * CosmoHill headbangs desk Jul 28 18:55:51 person doesn't understand the way in the book Jul 28 18:56:04 I show then my hint which shows them where they are meant to be and what commands to run Jul 28 18:56:07 still doens't understand Jul 28 18:56:36 I explain what the book says but nobody every reads to him and then he gets it Jul 28 19:56:51 Reminder - as noted in announcement on meego-dev, the MeeGo Internet Presence (OBS, REPO, DOWNLOAD) will be offline for about 20 minutes starting at 13:30 Pacific (20:30 UTC) -- About 30 minutes from now. Jul 28 20:04:29 argretzx, do you need me to log off my meego computer or will that carry on working? Jul 28 20:05:03 lcuk: depends if they hit the global kill switch by mistake.... Jul 28 20:05:35 * lcuk used to be asked that question by lots of folks when updates were announced Jul 28 20:05:42 There will be a brief interruption while i move them from switch to switch, there is no need make special efforts, if(when) all goes well your connection should continue as it will only be down a short duration of the 20 minutes. Jul 28 20:06:17 argretzx: are you setting up our shiney new OBS hardware by any chance? Jul 28 20:06:55 The Community OBS hardware will be somewhat ready on Thursday. Jul 28 20:07:04 neat... Jul 28 20:07:31 Niels said it might be Jul 28 20:08:03 * lbt is looking forward to installing it :) Jul 28 20:08:33 I'd like to chat with whoever is setting it up... LVM and the like... Jul 28 20:09:46 lbt -- that would be me. Its already setup with LVM to have a large VG=OBS. If you have further requirements talk to niels he approved a basic setup but it can be change easily Jul 28 20:10:44 OK ... I'd like to get the underlying storage partitioned into 50/100Gb sized chunks so I can pvadd them .... Jul 28 20:11:24 the basic layout will be to run 2 permanent VMs from one VG which also holds storage for builds/repos Jul 28 20:11:49 and then spawn VMs from LVs on another VG which is dedicated Jul 28 20:15:30 argretzx: here's the LV data from maemo-obs http://pastie.org/private/2xrom5a0goczwka9ckxrwq http://pastie.org/private/z0umdjvnz7zxxog7vbilmw http://pastie.org/private/rafvpfujlgcdidghtguw http://pastie.org/private/ty09csurai2ktjcvnjhaq Jul 28 20:34:49 Outage completed. Tests reveal things are okay. Jul 28 20:36:53 lbt, did he just turn it off and back on again? Jul 28 20:45:14 lcuk: prolly Jul 28 20:58:23 hi - I was just going to ask about getting an account on OBS but from the sounds of it a new server is about to come online. Will the account creation then be automagic, or should I still request for manual addition? Jul 28 21:44:19 nite all, sweet dreams Jul 28 22:30:53 Hi Jul 28 22:32:07 hello Jul 28 22:46:40 what's the right arch to pass mic-image-creator so it's happy for armv5? Jul 28 22:48:23 Stskeeps and vgrade have obviously done an outstanding job getting the Joggler with GMA 500/Poulsbo to work with the EMGD driver. Is there any chance to get another device with GMA 500 working, in my case an Eee T91MT? I'm fine selling out and signing what ever I need to away to Intel, etc.. Jul 28 22:49:22 yigal, don't sell out. Jul 28 22:49:30 i'll offer you half the price for your soul Jul 28 22:49:55 tripzero: right it's a matter of using Windows 7 or selling out in a smaller way to Intel + Jul 28 22:50:32 I would prefer to sell half my soul then get half price on my sould Jul 28 22:50:52 :P Jul 28 22:54:43 tripzero: --arch=armv5tel Jul 28 22:55:19 well. let me go ahead and follow these instructions and work on this meego image :) Jul 28 22:55:19 csd_, Error: Given arch 'armv5tel' is not found from the repositories. Jul 28 22:55:35 i'm sorry. i didn't stick around after i asked. Stskeeps said i need to use flasher Jul 28 22:55:45 so does that mean i can only flash back and forth between maemo and meego? Jul 28 22:55:51 yep Jul 28 22:55:58 it doesn't install a bootloader? Jul 28 22:56:07 ah. damn. :) well. that kind of hinders it a bit. Jul 28 22:56:31 meego does not come with a bootloader no Jul 28 22:56:51 is there some other way to dual boot? like some n900 bootloader that is out there like the one for the n810? Jul 28 22:57:16 the fanoush one Jul 28 22:57:22 so multiboot doesn't work? Jul 28 22:57:41 sorry NITDroid is just so active, I just thought . . . Jul 28 22:58:48 dual boot claims to work with nitdroid and maemo5 Jul 28 22:58:54 on the n900... Jul 28 22:59:36 but not meego/maemo? Jul 28 23:00:05 well, if android dual boot works, one can assume it can be done with meego as well Jul 28 23:00:32 but i have no idea how... Jul 28 23:00:35 or why... :P Jul 28 23:00:41 Last post is SimonGie having problems booting Fedora, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=768337&postcount=431 Jul 28 23:01:22 Unexpected arguments to repo command: ['\xe2\x80\x94gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-meego'] Jul 28 23:01:26 heh Jul 28 23:01:28 wtf? :) Jul 28 23:01:37 ooh Jul 28 23:01:56 let me try the official nokia ks Jul 28 23:02:07 this is the same problem i had when trying debian to do this Jul 28 23:03:41 yeah. the nokia one seems to work fine. Jul 28 23:04:02 owell, at least Nokia is good for something then Jul 28 23:04:10 haha Jul 28 23:04:18 well. the community ks doesn't seem to work for me Jul 28 23:04:23 i get some messed up gpg error Jul 28 23:04:41 at least it is building in fedora tho Jul 28 23:04:49 so i can just go ahead and let it do its thing Jul 28 23:05:39 Macer: I went to this channel to see if I could get Meego on my netbook, I don't want to worry about my n900, not Meego is a bit more developed. Jul 28 23:06:05 sorry for the typos Jul 28 23:06:28 heh. well. hope it works out ;) Jul 28 23:06:42 i don't see a need to put meego on a netbook but i could be wrong Jul 28 23:06:58 not unless it was something like an ipad. mego should find a way to get it onto an ipad heh Jul 28 23:07:18 it's because of the EMGD driver for GMA 500/Poulsbo - it's a 9" laptop/tablet Jul 28 23:08:25 Meego has in theory better support than any other os OS. Jul 28 23:08:33 for gma500? Jul 28 23:08:35 sorry.. nope. Jul 28 23:08:50 arjan: but,but what about the Joggler videos? Jul 28 23:09:00 arjan: I got so excited when I saw those Jul 28 23:09:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwfVtHuhoI Jul 28 23:10:07 if there is any portability with that work, that would be great Jul 28 23:10:29 with the FOSS gma500 driver parts, you do get 2D accelleration Jul 28 23:10:39 right? Jul 28 23:10:56 kind of, but terrible Flash support Jul 28 23:11:08 via vaapi Jul 28 23:11:26 yes, and some get 3d Jul 28 23:11:37 PowerVR will be the bane of mobile linux for a long time to come Jul 28 23:11:57 no I just should have done more research before I bought my netbook Jul 28 23:12:15 it's on me, but now that I'm in this situation, what to do Jul 28 23:15:53 arjan: So am I missing something with that Youtube video? Jul 28 23:18:02 could have been worse. you could have bought a touchbook :-P Jul 28 23:18:48 Macer: The quality was bad, right? Jul 28 23:18:51 talk about a total piece oc crap Jul 28 23:18:55 oc/of Jul 28 23:19:01 bad is an understatement Jul 28 23:19:04 lol Jul 28 23:19:15 i hope that company went out of business Jul 28 23:19:25 for releasing such a disgusting product onto the public :) Jul 28 23:19:40 I remember how it was doted upon in talk.maemo Jul 28 23:19:48 the idea was cool Jul 28 23:20:32 yeah but then the thing actually came out Jul 28 23:20:36