**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 05 02:59:57 2010
Aug 05 03:12:17 <spenca> can ihave anyones old runescpe accounts?
Aug 05 03:13:53 <TermanaN900> spenca, please dont spam the room
Aug 05 03:15:27 <spenca> lol im not
Aug 05 03:16:12 <spenca> im serius
Aug 05 03:55:33 <yigal> Stskeeps and vgrade: I found this, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=989
Aug 05 04:11:36 <yigal> vgrade: I'll be back
Aug 05 05:57:31 <yigal> vgrade: I tried to build with your EMGD, sudo mic-image-creator  --cache=mycachedir --format=liveusb --config=emgd-netbook.ks --run-mode=0, but I get an error at the end of the install yum-3.2.25-15.2.noarch was supposed to be installed but is not!
Aug 05 05:57:42 <yigal> ? I don't understand
Aug 05 05:59:07 <yigal> I have yum 3.2.25-1ubuntu2 installed on the host - but I doubt this has much to do with it.
Aug 05 05:59:18 <yigal> any help would be appreciated
Aug 05 07:04:57 <amjad> morning slaine
Aug 05 07:05:09 <slaine> morning amjad
Aug 05 07:26:08 <apundhir> Hi
Aug 05 07:26:49 <apundhir> I am ajay, new developer in MeeGo
Aug 05 07:26:58 <Stskeeps> welcome
Aug 05 07:27:04 <apundhir> Thanks
Aug 05 07:49:20 <vgrade> yigal, hi
Aug 05 07:51:04 <vgrade> yigal can you postbin the build log
Aug 05 07:51:21 <vgrade> pastebin sorry
Aug 05 07:57:13 <vgrade> yigal, can you sucessfuly build a stock netbook image?
Aug 05 08:03:49 <yigal> vgrade: I think it might be working now, crossing fingers
Aug 05 08:05:39 <yigal> vgrade: my harddrive isn't large enough what parameter to install the everything on an external ssd, or is this possible?
Aug 05 08:07:12 <yigal> anyways the disk is being built
Aug 05 08:37:40 <vgrade_> yigal, do you have an image built now?
Aug 05 09:11:45 <shiva__> hi
Aug 05 09:59:36 <magie_01123> does meego have support for ipod
Aug 05 10:06:54 <apundhir> Hi, I am a beginner for Meego, i have a question
Aug 05 10:07:17 <apundhir> I have installed and running Meego handset image
Aug 05 10:07:37 <apundhir> now i want to run my Hello world application in that
Aug 05 10:08:08 <apundhir> how can i compile and run my app which i have created outside with qtcreator
Aug 05 10:08:36 <apundhir> can anyone help me??
Aug 05 11:36:44 <vit0> hi guys, the wiki is down ?
Aug 05 11:37:40 <anaZ> no, looks like dns issues
Aug 05 11:38:19 <vit0> thanks =)
Aug 05 12:05:10 <magie_01123> is there an issue with meego.com and meego wiki
Aug 05 12:05:14 <pvanhoof> conference2010.meego.com is down
Aug 05 12:06:44 <TermanaN900> Transitioning website to OSU servers? *evilly cackles*
Aug 05 12:06:59 <tekojo> DNS issues
Aug 05 12:07:52 <TermanaN900> tekojo, fun spoiler :P
Aug 05 12:08:18 <tekojo> come on, it's 5:07 in Portland, no one works at that time :)
Aug 05 12:09:16 <pvanhoof> I was just submitting my session proposal
Aug 05 12:09:19 <pvanhoof> and you guys go down :)
Aug 05 12:09:21 <pvanhoof> comon!
Aug 05 12:35:16 <luist> hey guys i REALLY need some help here... im running garage with my own application list/repository and i have around 55 applications. im getting many DBus errors, seems that some limit is being exceeded, can anyone help me with that? http://pastie.org/1062522
Aug 05 12:43:26 <amjad>  so the repos are down ??
Aug 05 12:43:37 <vit0> amjad : yes
Aug 05 12:43:39 <X-Fade> No, the dns servers.
Aug 05 12:44:09 <amjad> any eta for getting it to work??
Aug 05 12:44:16 <vit0> finally the repo don't work ^^
Aug 05 12:44:25 <X-Fade> ns1.linux-foundation.net. and ns2.linux-foundation.net don't respond.
Aug 05 12:44:38 <X-Fade> amjad: Probably when west coast wakes up.
Aug 05 12:48:36 <LjL> what are the main places to look for meego apps? (i don't have meego, i'm just considering buying an N900 later on)
Aug 05 12:50:03 <pvanhoof> LjL, n900 isn't meego atm
Aug 05 12:50:09 <pvanhoof> It's Fremantle
Aug 05 12:51:04 <LjL> pvanhoof: that's why i'm waiting until later on ;) i intend to keep an eye on both Android and MeeGo for the N900, as i'd like a phone that's as open source as possible. meanwhile, i can get some information on what software is available etc
Aug 05 12:51:28 <pvanhoof> Android on n900 is rather unlikely to run in such a way that everything will work fine
Aug 05 12:51:35 <LjL> hmm :\
Aug 05 12:52:02 <pvanhoof> If you want a phone that is as open as possible from a developer's point of view, then currently the n900 is your best pick. As its development platform is identical to a typical Debian machine
Aug 05 12:52:28 <LjL> yep, that's very cool, but on the other hand it isn't very open from a, well, open-source point of view
Aug 05 12:52:39 <LjL> do you think MeeGo will eventually work fine on the N900 though?
Aug 05 12:52:45 <pvanhoof> Whereas Android has its own custom-google OS on top of a Linux kernel that has a bunch of modifications (Fremantle's kernel too, btw)
Aug 05 12:53:04 <Stskeeps> LjL: we're working hard to make it so.
Aug 05 12:53:08 <pvanhoof> The N900 is as open form a open-source point of view as you can possibly imagine
Aug 05 12:53:10 <lcuk> LjL, the closed bits dont seem to stop people hacking and making new stuff on maemo
Aug 05 12:53:19 <LjL> yeah, but on the other hand Android has a lot of software (but on the third hand, most of it is not very good and not open source)
Aug 05 12:53:31 <pvanhoof> I don't think there's much that you can't do on a N900, from an opensource point of view
Aug 05 12:53:35 <pvanhoof> Or anything at all
Aug 05 12:53:35 <lcuk> and obviously allows you to sidestep whichever way you feel comfortable
Aug 05 12:54:03 <LjL> pvanhoof, lcuk: eh... i think i'd been told that 43% of Maemo is open source though  -  yeah apparently it's been measured :P
Aug 05 12:54:13 <pvanhoof> LjL, and what kind of thing do you want to do?
Aug 05 12:54:17 <luist> hey guys i REALLY need some help here... im running garage with my own application list/repository and i have around 55 applications. im getting many DBus errors, seems that some limit is being exceeded, can anyone help me with that? http://pastie.org/1062522
Aug 05 12:54:28 <pvanhoof> Hmm, no, in lines of code I think Maemo is about 98% open
Aug 05 12:54:44 <LjL> anyway i've recently bought a Motorola Milestone to quell my urge for a phone, but that's not very open at all, so while i've got time, i eventually want to sell it and switch to an N900
Aug 05 12:54:44 <CosmoHill> hey lcuk
Aug 05 12:54:52 <pvanhoof> I don't think Nokia's staff back then was even large enough to "ever" develop 57% of the code
Aug 05 12:54:55 <lcuk> \o hey CosmoHill
Aug 05 12:54:55 <LjL> Stskeeps: wasn't it you who gave me the 43% figure?
Aug 05 12:55:31 <LjL> there was a link to a chart detailing which parts of Maemo were open sourced, not sure if i have it in my logs
Aug 05 12:55:33 <pvanhoof> LjL, you can trust my word that the vast majority of Fremantle is simply opensource
Aug 05 12:55:43 <pvanhoof> Without any strings attached
Aug 05 12:56:22 <pvanhoof> And if there's something closed, usually a hardware driver or something, and you want to interop with it, I'm pretty sure I can get you in touch with the guys. And they might even open it, just for your fun
Aug 05 12:56:23 <lcuk> indeed, there are lots of packages available directly: http://maemo.gitorious.org/
Aug 05 12:56:23 <CosmoHill> damn apple
Aug 05 12:56:35 <CosmoHill> "did you mean Macbook Pro teardown?"
Aug 05 12:56:41 <CosmoHill> no I mean Mac Pro you stupid thing
Aug 05 12:56:42 <w00t_> http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2010/02/mapping-openness-of-maemo-50-pr11-and.html
Aug 05 12:56:46 <CosmoHill> </rant>
Aug 05 12:57:36 <lcuk> pvanhoof, there are user facing components that are closed but as you say they have interop and are still to some degree maintained
Aug 05 12:57:40 <pvanhoof> LjL, as for the meego-harmattan situation (which is more interesting, and more related to this IRC channel): again most will be open-source without much strings attached. Although it has been announced that the phone will run in a security-mode if you want all the features enabled. This has a lot to do with data from alien sources, and the contracts that come with that. More than with the source code of the apps themselves
Aug 05 12:57:52 <pvanhoof> lcuk, nod
Aug 05 12:58:58 <LjL> pvanhoof: hmm Harmattan is MeeGo for the N900?
Aug 05 12:59:00 <pvanhoof> LjL, but check gitorious's meego or maemo-af directory
Aug 05 12:59:21 <pvanhoof> I'll just keep it at "harmattan is under development for something in future"
Aug 05 12:59:38 <pvanhoof> And it'll get stamped as MeeGo I'm guessing
Aug 05 13:00:20 <lcuk> w00t_,  always look at that chart and scratch head, its organised quite strangely and I cannot make sense of things properly, take calculator for example, its marked as 50% open source and 50% closed
Aug 05 13:00:23 <LjL> uhm. i'm really not fond of the idea of something running in a TC mode, that's what my Milestone does, and also what makes its open sourcedness worthless :(  (well, it's not worthless because it can be partly cracked, but still)
Aug 05 13:00:29 <lcuk> but still marked in red
Aug 05 13:00:30 <pvanhoof> LjL, go here:  http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/ and here http://gitorious.org/search?q=meego
Aug 05 13:01:57 <w00t_> lcuk: it's based on packages.. click the links on it, osso-calculator is not open, but osso-calculator-engine is
Aug 05 13:02:38 <LjL> right that's the chart i was thinking of
Aug 05 13:02:47 <LjL> so what should i believe, the chart or what's being said here now :\
Aug 05 13:06:26 * mmeeks wonders where http:///www.meego.com/ went
Aug 05 13:06:51 <Stskeeps> mmeeks: got tired of people complaining on mailing lists and took a vacation ;)
Aug 05 13:07:00 <X-Fade> LF nameservers are down.
Aug 05 13:07:07 <X-Fade> So everything LF is gone.
Aug 05 13:07:23 <mmeeks> X-Fade: sad - I can't test my bug fix then ;-)
Aug 05 13:08:22 <X-Fade> Mek: Sad indeed, but someone is on it now.
Aug 05 13:09:03 <LjL> where can i find more information about meego being slated to run in trusted computing modes?
Aug 05 13:09:31 <pvanhoof> X-Fade, comon guys, I want to submit my talk proposal. bring it up! :)
Aug 05 13:09:49 <X-Fade> pvanhoof: Don't look at me ;)
Aug 05 13:09:51 <pvanhoof> oh, hi mmeeks !
Aug 05 13:09:56 * pvanhoof looks at X-Fade 
Aug 05 13:20:54 <lbt> we want DNS....when do we want it.... NOW
Aug 05 13:27:50 <luist> hey guys i REALLY need some help here... im running garage with my own application list/repository and i have around 55 applications. im getting many DBus errors, seems that some limit is being exceeded, can anyone help me with that? http://pastie.org/1062522
Aug 05 13:40:54 <ismael> meego.com is really down or access is off only from here?
Aug 05 13:41:22 <Stskeeps> dns is hosed
Aug 05 13:42:07 <ismael> :-/
Aug 05 14:06:19 <thiago> 10:41 < Stskeeps> dns is hosed
Aug 05 14:06:20 <thiago> 10:42 < ismael> :-/
Aug 05 14:06:24 <thiago> oops, bad paste
Aug 05 14:07:27 <lbt> I quite liked it
Aug 05 14:08:48 <Termana> lbt, are you the one that said your a card carrying FSF member?
Aug 05 14:08:56 <lbt> yup
Aug 05 14:09:04 <lbt> just recently though...
Aug 05 14:09:06 <Termana> lbt, can I ask you a question?
Aug 05 14:09:15 <lbt> anyone can ask...
Aug 05 14:10:16 <Termana> lbt, Being a card carrying member, do you believe one day you will be pulled over and asked "Can I please see your FSF license and registration please?"
Aug 05 14:10:17 <Termana> "Your under arrest for using non-free software in a free software zone"
Aug 05 14:10:29 <Termana> :P
Aug 05 14:10:38 <lbt> I hope so... :D    actually I won't get a card until they send it next xmas....
Aug 05 14:10:56 <lbt> I only joined a couple of weeks ago...
Aug 05 14:11:25 <lbt> I figure I've saved a fortune over the years... least I can do is contribute a few £ a month
Aug 05 14:11:30 <ismael> web is alive again
Aug 05 14:11:34 <lbt> wooo
Aug 05 14:11:43 <Termana> lbt, don't tell them your using a device with proprietary binaries on it though ;) and make sure you don't let Stallman know you have a phone at all! :P
Aug 05 14:11:57 <lbt> heh....
Aug 05 14:12:12 <lbt> the way i see it... I'm paying them to be fanatical so I can be pragmatic :)
Aug 05 14:12:43 <Termana> :P heh
Aug 05 14:53:29 <pohly> Do we have a public channel to ask development question about MeeGo Touch Framework?
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Aug 05 14:57:43 <DawnFoster> thanks X-Fade
Aug 05 14:58:05 <Stskeeps> morn dawn
Aug 05 14:58:11 <DawnFoster> morning Stskeeps
Aug 05 14:58:24 <DawnFoster> or evening for you, I guess
Aug 05 14:58:29 <X-Fade> Guy already spammed #maemo, he's just going from chan to chan.
Aug 05 14:58:32 <Stskeeps> 5pm, not so bad :)
Aug 05 14:58:46 <DawnFoster> I'm still on that first cup of tea - brain is a little slow yet :)
Aug 05 15:12:07 * slaine yawns
Aug 05 15:12:17 <Stskeeps> indeed
Aug 05 15:12:39 <slaine> double espresso, lets see what that can do about it
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Aug 05 15:19:15 <w00t_> slaine: i've got to go out for a few hours, but when I get back, sure
Aug 05 15:19:28 <slaine> yeah, I'm just about to commute
Aug 05 15:19:34 <slaine> but I'll be online later
Aug 05 15:19:43 <slaine> I'll keep an eye out
Aug 05 15:19:54 * Stskeeps goes check out the current presentation proposals
Aug 05 15:20:40 <thiago> are there any already?
Aug 05 15:21:00 <Stskeeps> yeah, libferris, meego on beagleboard and MUEF
Aug 05 15:21:17 * w00t_ mutters idly about still having no clue what to submit a proposal about
Aug 05 15:21:52 <slaine> I'm planning on being a leech and just absorbing everything, not much for public speeking
Aug 05 15:22:02 <Stskeeps> slaine: up for a beer when there for sure? :P
Aug 05 15:22:06 <w00t_> (I love hearing myself talk)
Aug 05 15:22:18 <slaine> Was just about to say, I can't wait to finally meet you guys
Aug 05 15:22:33 <w00t_> Stskeeps: I believe you owe me a beer for mtouch stuff, and I owe you a vodka?
Aug 05 15:22:38 <Stskeeps> w00t_: something like that
Aug 05 15:22:54 <slaine> right, time for the bus
Aug 05 15:22:58 <slaine> catch you later w00t_
Aug 05 15:23:03 <slaine> you too Stskeeps
Aug 05 15:23:05 <Stskeeps> cya
Aug 05 15:23:07 <w00t_> cya
Aug 05 15:23:14 <w00t_> and I'm off for a few hours too
Aug 05 15:23:22 <w00t_> time to cart horses around.
Aug 05 15:26:46 <Stskeeps> any of the IVI guys around by chance?
Aug 05 15:27:10 <Stskeeps> (no, i'm not going to ask about installation guide :P)
Aug 05 15:43:58 <luist> hey guys i REALLY need some help here... im running garage with my own application list/repository and i have around 55 applications. im getting many DBus errors, seems that some limit is being exceeded, can anyone help me with that? http://pastie.org/1062522
Aug 05 16:18:09 <vasez> I compiled vlc via the guide on the wiki, but it has an ugly icon.  I can see the icons in /usr/share/vlc how do I make them pick up
Aug 05 17:09:02 <vit0> hi guys,i have an issuse with mic2, i have : ImportError: No module named pykickstart.parser
Aug 05 17:09:53 <Stskeeps> install pykickstart
Aug 05 17:10:29 <vit0> apt-get or git ?
Aug 05 17:14:16 <threezero> vit0, git
Aug 05 17:15:19 <vit0> i try with : git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/pykickstart.git
Aug 05 17:16:45 <vit0> it's work thanks !
Aug 05 17:31:52 <vgrade> stskeeps, emgd up on a netbook, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=6594#post6594
Aug 05 17:32:13 <Stskeeps> cool
Aug 05 17:32:40 <pavlix> hello
Aug 05 17:32:44 <Stskeeps> lo
Aug 05 17:33:09 <vgrade> armika, ping
Aug 05 17:39:55 <auke> nice
Aug 05 17:40:12 <auke> vgrade: wonder if they can try the xfce4 compository
Aug 05 17:41:11 <Stskeeps> auke: did you see our netbook ux video on emgd?
Aug 05 17:41:42 <Stskeeps> auke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwfVtHuhoI
Aug 05 17:42:04 <auke> no time
Aug 05 17:42:07 <Stskeeps> fair enough
Aug 05 17:42:11 <Stskeeps> runs flawlessly on gma500
Aug 05 17:42:13 <auke> interviewing more people to hire lol
Aug 05 17:42:20 <Stskeeps> hehe, we do need more hands in meego :)
Aug 05 17:43:25 <vgrade> \o
Aug 05 17:43:56 <pavlix> is it possible to run meego virtually? qemu, virtualbox, whatever?
Aug 05 17:44:21 <Stskeeps> pavlix: sec
Aug 05 17:44:24 <auke> vgrade: did you lose an arm?
Aug 05 17:44:55 <Stskeeps> pavlix: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_SDK_with_QEMU
Aug 05 17:46:35 <vgrade> auke, :)
Aug 05 17:46:58 <pavlix> Stskeeps: looks good, wonder why I haven't found it myself
Aug 05 17:47:12 <Stskeeps> at least it seems like people are finally starting to toy around with meego and see what they can build with it
Aug 05 17:47:21 <Stskeeps> which is a healthy sign
Aug 05 17:55:02 <pavlix> Stskeeps: I'm starting with meego today, surprisingly because of work
Aug 05 18:04:14 <wit> hey guys, is there a list of smartphones that already run meego? :-)
Aug 05 18:04:42 <Stskeeps> n900 runs meego
Aug 05 18:04:42 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 05 18:04:47 <Stskeeps> aava runs meego
Aug 05 18:04:53 <pavlix> hmm, it seems the qemu thing won't be so easy
Aug 05 18:06:26 <wit> n900 huh
Aug 05 18:06:37 <wit> nice
Aug 05 18:07:21 <Stskeeps> well, meego has a port for it
Aug 05 18:43:25 <armika> vgrade, pong
Aug 05 18:48:07 <vgrade> armika, good work on the netbook
Aug 05 18:50:20 <vgrade> armika, do you see a meego backgound with an xterm and clock?
Aug 05 19:11:09 <armika> vgrade: Thanks, it was nothing. Just following instructions.
Aug 05 19:11:25 <armika> Yeah, the meego background and xterm and clock
Aug 05 19:11:34 <armika> And a mouse cursor
Aug 05 19:11:53 <armika> But the xterm and clock are not responding at all..
Aug 05 19:43:50 <slaine> screw this for a game of soldiers. I'm gonna wrap up
Aug 05 19:43:54 <slaine> catch you all tomorrow
Aug 05 19:44:06 <slaine> w00t_: I still want to have a chat
Aug 05 19:46:00 <vgrade> armika, you can't even close them?
Aug 05 19:50:44 <armika> Nope..
Aug 05 19:50:59 <armika> They're totally unresponsive.
Aug 05 19:51:55 <armika> The mouse cursor changes for example when pointing to an edge or corner of the clock inidcating that the win is resizeable.
Aug 05 19:52:08 <armika> So it's kind of alive..
Aug 05 19:52:19 <armika> I just booted up again to look at the logs.
Aug 05 19:54:15 <armika> And if I switch to console (CTRL+ALT+F1) and then back to X it doesn't redraw. The mouse cursor changes like before indicating that the xterm and clock windows are there.
Aug 05 19:54:34 <armika> But the screen is black (excl. the mouse cursor)
Aug 05 19:57:01 <vgrade> can you right or left click the square at the top right of the windows to bring up the menu to close the window.
Aug 05 19:58:29 <armika> Nope
Aug 05 19:58:52 <armika> I'm starting the X from the console using startx
Aug 05 19:59:10 <armika> mutter reports some Clutter warnings..
Aug 05 19:59:17 <vgrade> and you've made the edit to Xclients?
Aug 05 19:59:30 <armika> in Xorg.0.log there's errors only concerning lid switch and touchpad.
Aug 05 19:59:39 <armika> Yep, I edited the Xclients
Aug 05 19:59:49 <vgrade> can you pastebin the Xorg
Aug 05 20:00:55 <armika> I'll try.. never used pastebin before.
Aug 05 20:01:26 <vgrade> http://pastebin.com/
Aug 05 20:02:21 <vgrade> copy the log, then paste into the website above, this then gives you a link you can post here
Aug 05 20:02:55 <th3hate_> can anyone give me  a link to the meego handsets release plan page
Aug 05 20:04:00 <Stskeeps> th3hate_: there's a global meego release plan
Aug 05 20:04:01 <Stskeeps> sec
Aug 05 20:04:45 <Stskeeps> th3hate_: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Release_Timeline and http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1
Aug 05 20:04:56 <Stskeeps> read more about ways things work at http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering
Aug 05 20:05:06 <th3hate_> tyvm
Aug 05 20:10:21 <th3hate_> stskeeps, what after 1.1.0.0? will meego continue to develop?
Aug 05 20:10:23 <th3hate_> like 1.2
Aug 05 20:10:33 <Stskeeps> th3hate_: yes
Aug 05 20:10:58 <th3hate_> but only for fixing existing features right?
Aug 05 20:11:08 <th3hate_> or they will continue to add more?
Aug 05 20:11:09 <Stskeeps> erm, no
Aug 05 20:11:17 <Stskeeps> there's a fork for new start of process
Aug 05 20:11:19 <Stskeeps> keep reading :)
Aug 05 20:11:28 <th3hate_> oki
Aug 05 20:13:07 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: hmm, philosophical question - i'm seeing job announcements for things like 'meego handset integration lead' - while i do believe we need those people and obviously paid and needed right now, .. but is that meritocracy?
Aug 05 20:13:35 <DawnFoster> Stskeeps - Nokia jobs?
Aug 05 20:13:40 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: intel
Aug 05 20:14:19 <timeless> http://www.indeed.com/job/Meego-Handset-Integration-Lead-at-Intel-in-Hillsboro,-OR-df4c79104c54c4ef
Aug 05 20:15:04 <Stskeeps> not complaining, just for good measure - just something people might wonder about :)
Aug 05 20:15:11 <DawnFoster> I think that's a job for Intel products built on top of MeeGO
Aug 05 20:15:26 <DawnFoster> since it mentions Moorestown
Aug 05 20:17:03 <DawnFoster> I've been seeing similar opening at Nokia, too
Aug 05 20:17:12 <Stskeeps> yeah
Aug 05 20:17:31 * lcuk has been seeing things @ Microsoft too
Aug 05 20:17:32 <Stskeeps> but the 'view job' clearly states it's within typical meego project work sadly, hence me wondering
Aug 05 20:17:37 <armika> vgrade: http://pastebin.com/eYMGSXKk
Aug 05 20:17:57 <DawnFoster> also saw an opening for what looked like Quim's job - open source meego advocate for europe
Aug 05 20:18:22 <Stskeeps> yeah, now that he's deployed to US, we need someone for the european communities :)
Aug 05 20:18:39 <timeless> why? meego's obviously all american ;-)
Aug 05 20:19:08 * lbt wonders if these would be better read as "Intel's lead for meego handset integration" "BMW's lead for meego IVI integration"
Aug 05 20:19:16 <DawnFoster> *wonders how many meego community managers we need*
Aug 05 20:19:27 <lbt> 3
Aug 05 20:19:30 * lcuk knows all about integration :)
Aug 05 20:19:31 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: one per timezone
Aug 05 20:19:35 <lbt> rolling 8 hour follow the sun
Aug 05 20:19:36 <DawnFoster> lbt: apparently :)
Aug 05 20:19:38 <Stskeeps> or that
Aug 05 20:20:01 <Stskeeps> but anyway, it is an interesting challenge re jobs, cos sometimes a lead role has to be paid for (and merit shown in job interview), cos no sane people would do that job for frer
Aug 05 20:20:03 <lbt> DawnFoster: so are you moving to Asia or Quim ;)
Aug 05 20:20:05 <Stskeeps> e
Aug 05 20:20:06 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 05 20:20:13 <lcuk> DawnFoster, the open source advocate isnt a community manager is it?
Aug 05 20:21:54 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: there was a funny phrase in that particular job
Aug 05 20:21:55 <Stskeeps> sec
Aug 05 20:22:03 <Stskeeps> (the advocate one)
Aug 05 20:23:46 <Stskeeps> 'Your means of communication will not include meego.com, wikis, presentations, and events such as the MeeGo conference.'
Aug 05 20:23:47 <lbt> It was "Doctor, Doctor..."
Aug 05 20:23:59 <DawnFoster> stskeeps - interesting
Aug 05 20:24:05 <Stskeeps> DawnFoster: note the 'not'
Aug 05 20:24:17 <Stskeeps> i had to read that twice as well :)
Aug 05 20:25:07 <Stskeeps> anyway, off to sleep for me, a fun day of debugging connman ahead of me tomorrow.
Aug 05 20:25:08 <Stskeeps> bbl
Aug 05 20:25:19 <DawnFoster> later Stskeeps
Aug 05 20:27:56 <Stskeeps> heh, just one thought before sleep: we could add a link to the various meego jobs boards in 'contribute to meego' wiki page as well, i mean, it is contribution afterall and shows ability to involve :)
Aug 05 20:28:24 * w00t_ slaps Stskeeps with a trout. :p
Aug 05 20:28:31 <VDVsx> no meego.org and open source advocate don't seems right :D
Aug 05 20:28:38 <VDVsx> perhaps Forum Nokia stuff
Aug 05 20:29:09 <DawnFoster> we really need a MeeGo job board
Aug 05 20:29:38 <VDVsx> isn't there one at LF ?
Aug 05 20:30:20 <Stskeeps> i'm actually fairly happy about linkedin's job board in the meego group, keeps me updated re new positions and such
Aug 05 20:30:24 <vgrade> armika, looks ok, i'll check it aginst my Joggler log later
Aug 05 20:30:46 <Stskeeps> (and both nokia and intel posts there)
Aug 05 20:30:51 <vgrade> armika, what were the clutter errors
Aug 05 20:30:59 <DawnFoster> Stskeeps: the problem with linked in job boards is that you have to be a member of the group to see the jobs
Aug 05 20:31:06 <Stskeeps> yeah, that's the downside
Aug 05 20:31:17 <lcuk> DawnFoster, not a problem
Aug 05 20:31:33 <Stskeeps> free-to-join group though
Aug 05 20:31:46 <lcuk> Meego is a community - becoming a member of meego group should be the same?
Aug 05 20:31:48 <lcuk> yeah
Aug 05 20:31:48 <DawnFoster> the LF has one, and we need to work with them to include the meego jobs
Aug 05 20:32:03 <DawnFoster> except that when you send someone the link they need to join the group to see them
Aug 05 20:32:13 <DawnFoster> not everyone wants to join yet another thing
Aug 05 20:32:30 <DawnFoster> It's the best we have right now, though
Aug 05 20:37:21 <VDVsx> something like this at meego.org would be cool, if filtered from LF job border better: http://maemo.org/news/jobs/
Aug 05 20:38:55 <armika> vgrade: Aug  5 05:57:30 localhost mutter[1351]: GLIB WARNING ** Clutter - The actor 'MnbAlttabOverlay' is currently inside an allocation cycle; calling clutter_actor_queue_relayout() is not recommended
Aug 05 20:39:37 <armika> Also for actors ClutterGroup and MnbNotificationCluster
Aug 05 20:41:26 <armika> Hmm.. There's also
Aug 05 20:41:30 <armika> Oops..
Aug 05 20:42:35 <armika> There's couple of mutter errors in system log about not being able to open display
Aug 05 20:44:20 <armika> I need to check those tomorrow..
Aug 05 20:46:05 <vgrade> there should also be a uxlaunch log, in /tmp or /var/tmp
Aug 05 20:46:28 <vgrade> pastebin them and I'll have a look
Aug 05 20:48:58 <skaja> I have a question about meego
Aug 05 20:51:25 <lbt> skaja: just ask
Aug 05 20:52:36 <skaja> I am trying to write the .img file onto my 2gb flash drive. but When I check to see if the files where wirten onto the drive. it needs to be formated
Aug 05 20:56:07 <Phazorx> skaja: windows is not smart enough to comprehend neither partition layout nor the partition format
Aug 05 20:56:26 <Phazorx> just set bios to boo fro usb flash and try it
Aug 05 20:56:44 <skaja> thank you Phazorx
Aug 05 21:00:49 <lcuk> lbt, people are realising liq* stuff works on x86 :)
Aug 05 21:01:00 <lbt> :)
Aug 05 21:01:32 <lcuk> but theres a problem with its makefile - I need to work out how to differentiate between (to set a couple of -DUSE_MAEMO flags)
Aug 05 21:08:42 <lbt> lcuk: ?
Aug 05 21:12:30 <lcuk> lbt, theres no autotools in the package, its just simple makefile, and theres specific things which are not required on x86
Aug 05 21:14:46 <lbt> good time to learn auto-tools and pkg-config
Aug 05 21:16:28 <thiago> or cmake
Aug 05 21:16:47 <lbt> try both... see which you prefer
Aug 05 21:17:14 <lbt> sorry, s/prefer/least detest/ :)
Aug 05 21:17:44 <thiago> yeah
Aug 05 21:30:04 <lcuk> lbt thiago but those do not work fully on device
Aug 05 21:30:09 <lcuk> well, perhaps on meego
Aug 05 21:30:10 <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
Aug 05 21:30:17 <lcuk> but certainly not maemo
Aug 05 21:30:18 <lcuk> gnite trem \o
Aug 05 21:39:47 <thiago> cmake? it should work just fine on maemo
Aug 05 23:55:10 <Jason___> is there a meego app for meego?
Aug 05 23:56:02 <Jason___> torrent app*
Aug 05 23:57:46 <auke> in garage, yes
Aug 05 23:58:46 * w00t_ files (yet another) bug against the openness metabug
Aug 06 01:10:27 * peb_ is gone. Gone since Wed Aug  4 19:38:00 2010
Aug 06 01:30:39 <skaja> How Do I format a flash under meego
Aug 06 02:53:41 <Macer> omg
Aug 06 02:53:50 <Macer> how do i unsubscribe from this meego community stuff?
Aug 06 02:54:01 <Macer> i didn't think it would be like having maemo talk sent to your damn email address
Aug 06 02:54:02 <Macer> it's horrible
Aug 06 02:54:21 <Macer> found it! thank god
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