**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 14 02:59:57 2010 Aug 14 06:55:44 ali1234, my work with the build was to get familiar enough with the toolset. Aug 14 06:56:48 Good point about the static libs, I guess the order of building will be important Aug 14 06:57:08 I will post up my notes on the wiki Aug 14 07:14:44 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/nonSSSE3/POC Aug 14 07:17:46 rpm > deb Aug 14 07:30:55 just checking xchat on my n900. not too nice.. alternatives? Aug 14 07:38:16 if pidgin has been built for it, that might work Aug 14 07:50:05 will check out pidgin, thanks Aug 14 08:56:51 connman seems to forget the wpa2 key i enter on reboot... is that fixable? Aug 14 09:33:24 could anybody help me with following this:http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=769&page=2 Aug 14 09:33:57 how exactly i insert this? Aug 14 09:34:42 http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=7163&postcount=15 i mean this suggestion specifically Aug 14 10:48:40 what damage is probable if i install meego on n900? Aug 14 10:49:06 only about battery life? Aug 14 11:04:51 ilius: and the battery itself, if you don't use the proper battery driver Aug 14 11:05:53 thiago_home: ok thanks Aug 14 11:06:29 if you drain the battery completely, the device won't boot in order to charge it Aug 14 11:06:40 so you need battery to charge the battery Aug 14 11:07:37 i'm not a embedded systems developer, and a desktop application developer (and i work with linux for about 3 years), i'm not sure wheather to install meego on my n900 Aug 14 11:09:02 ilius: most likely not right now, there isn't that much to see Aug 14 11:09:25 ilius, to be fair, using the memory card install and merely running a kernel, you can boot meego without intefering with the working functionality of n900. and once you reboot maemo continues happily Aug 14 11:09:51 Aard: :-( Aug 14 11:10:30 lcuk: do you mean chroot install? Aug 14 11:11:36 ilius: right now you get a somewhat working launcher, and a few demo applications you can't do anything with. so, unless you want to get more serious nothing you can't see in some videos (apart from "hey, it's on my device as well") Aug 14 11:11:59 ilius, no I dont actually, but thats as feasible Aug 14 11:12:03 i believe Aug 14 11:14:09 Aard: lcuk: thanks Aug 14 11:22:34 could anybody help me with following this: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=7163&postcount=15 please... starting with gettin at-get working on meego Aug 14 11:22:39 *apt-get Aug 14 11:23:26 why do you need apt-get? Aug 14 11:23:33 Phazorx: start by not getting apt-get on meego Aug 14 11:24:12 apt4rpm was a nice hack for before there was stuff like yum Aug 14 11:24:33 it worked fine, more than just a hack Aug 14 11:24:44 reuse the APT logic, just give it an RPM backend Aug 14 11:25:04 yeah, but you don't need it anymore with stuff like yum in place per default Aug 14 11:25:14 thiago_home: okay.. so how do i go about doing same thing w/o apt get? Aug 14 11:25:16 or zypper, which is the recommended one now for MeeGo Aug 14 11:26:30 it's not like i really want apt-get... but since it is the suggested this way and i dont know any better - not like i have a choice Aug 14 11:26:44 what are you trying to do? Aug 14 11:27:11 get brightness controll and update xorg synaptics driver i guess Aug 14 11:27:22 what is wrong with apt? Aug 14 11:27:25 at least these are the issues visible to me Aug 14 11:28:10 Macer: nothing Aug 14 11:28:14 Macer: it's just not used by MeeGo Aug 14 11:28:17 and it would be nice to be able to use ALL Fn+# hotkeys with the tools offered there too Aug 14 11:28:35 Phazorx: ok, then use: zypper install Aug 14 11:28:55 thiago_home: and if the package is not there? Aug 14 11:29:00 meego still working on the n900 modem etc? Aug 14 11:29:27 Phazorx: then download the source and compile yourself Aug 14 11:29:32 Macer: yes, don't expect any cellular functionality in the september release Aug 14 11:29:55 Aard: where is the hadware status page? Aug 14 11:29:55 thiago: i downloaded the source but i caon make sense out of it Aug 14 11:30:04 the makefile as far as i can read it doesnt compile anything Aug 14 11:30:07 Phazorx: read the README Aug 14 11:30:10 Macer: no idea, I'm not on the hardware support team Aug 14 11:30:12 there isnt any Aug 14 11:30:24 i want meego to work with the n900 hardware already :( Aug 14 11:30:27 Phazorx: then go back to the webpage you downloaded from. There must be instructions there. Aug 14 11:30:47 thiago: yes, they are there Aug 14 11:30:54 and they start with sudo apt-get Aug 14 11:31:45 you're looking at the wrong instructions Aug 14 11:31:51 those are instructions for Debian-based distributions Aug 14 11:31:57 find the instructions for people using something else Aug 14 11:32:18 this is debian repository it is for debian based distros Aug 14 11:32:25 k/ubuntu specifically Aug 14 11:32:26 Phazorx: try to find the location of the upstream sources, with generic instructions Aug 14 11:32:40 i tihnk authors do not really care about being generic Aug 14 11:32:45 Phazorx: then do as Aard said Aug 14 11:32:53 Phazorx: Debian, Ubuntu instructions are useless for you Aug 14 11:32:59 find the upstream source Aug 14 11:33:19 that presumes i know how to do that... which is not the case Aug 14 11:33:42 then file a bug in bugs.meego.com and request that someone package the project for you Aug 14 11:40:59 Phazorx: which kernel version are you using on meego? Aug 14 11:53:14 Phazorx: the samsung-backlight-thing looks like a dirty hack based on samsung-laptop (which is in staging in recent kernels, and available as module on meego). proper way here would most likely be trying to merge the changes required to use the backlight on your notebook into samsung-laptop and use this one (if that hasn't happened already with 2.6.35) Aug 14 11:53:58 Aard: sorry was submitting the bug :) Aug 14 11:54:22 using 2.6.33.5-24.1-netbook Aug 14 11:56:13 how can i check if it has ben merged or not... and am i supposed to rebuild kernel myself or there is an official 2.6.35 out already? Aug 14 11:56:26 i mean one i can pull down with zypper from meego Aug 14 11:56:55 2.6.35 is the one used for daily snapshots Aug 14 11:57:24 i updated 2 days ago i think... and it didnt offer me 2.6.35 Aug 14 11:57:33 actually i updated ~30 hours ago Aug 14 11:58:14 yeah, you're probably using the latest released version (which, in your case, is the best option) Aug 14 11:58:54 well it is 2.6.33 rather than 2.6.35 Aug 14 11:59:25 and is there a how-to on module testing/sintlation Aug 14 11:59:41 especially finding out if it actually has needed changes? Aug 14 12:04:43 does'nt look like anything has changed for 2.6.35 for samsung stuff Aug 14 12:05:46 so... aside of submitting that bug ad waiting anything i can do in mean time? Aug 14 12:06:17 you can try to compile and load that kernel module Aug 14 12:07:20 how do i go about fettching it 1st? Aug 14 12:07:57 I assume you know how do download stuff linked from a webpage? Aug 14 12:08:25 ;) Aug 14 12:08:28 i can do that Aug 14 12:08:37 i even went as far as yumming make bison gcc etc Aug 14 12:08:44 well, then just do that for the source tarball Aug 14 12:08:45 so i actualy can even compile things on meeg now Aug 14 12:09:00 dont i need all devel_sources for kernel managed properly too? Aug 14 12:09:02 you'll need to install kernel-netbook-devel as well Aug 14 12:09:32 yeah.. is there a magic update button that makes zypper take care of dependencies? Aug 14 12:09:51 ? Aug 14 12:10:19 i mean do i have to pull kernel sources and all manually from kernel.org Aug 14 12:10:31 or zypper can do tha along with resolving possible dependencies? Aug 14 12:11:08 kernel-netbook-devel is a meego package Aug 14 12:11:16 good Aug 14 12:11:34 unless you want to run your own kernel you shouldn't touch anything from kernel.org Aug 14 12:12:14 i see it still is fetching 2.6.33 Aug 14 12:12:23 my mirrors are off sync or something? Aug 14 12:12:53 I told you a few times that 2.6.35 is the version in the development snapshots. you're running the latest stable version Aug 14 12:13:11 and -devel is not going fro development? Aug 14 12:13:52 perhaps there is a guide i can follow or at least read, that you can suggest Aug 14 12:13:55 -devel packages are packages containing stuff needed for doing development, which have to match your installed packages Aug 14 12:14:08 so i wont have to bug you with noobie questions due to desync terminology? :) Aug 14 12:15:04 I'd love to, but I usually don't deal with unexperienced users anymore, so I have no idea where to point you to Aug 14 12:15:28 heh you see i know how to manually do thing Aug 14 12:15:40 i wont have any issues configuring kernel myself Aug 14 12:16:20 but using tools that pretend to be smart to "go with the default way of distro doing thing" is something that i have to adjust Aug 14 12:16:26 you won't need to do any kernel configuration, you just need to install the correct -devel packages, and compile the module against your current kernel Aug 14 12:17:21 hello Aug 14 12:17:34 i understand that, what i am trying to get to is where between doing everything manually and clicking some magic button the middle ground where y question belongs right now Aug 14 12:18:18 i dont know if it is zypper/yum that is supposed to fetch the packages and i just need the name of them followed by simple modprobe/insmod Aug 14 12:18:44 Will nokia replace symbian with meego from all of its smartphones ? Aug 14 12:18:57 or i actualy have to do something closer to creating makefiles and tossing files into where they belong Aug 14 12:19:31 Phazorx: you install the package I mentioned above. it should automatically pull in all other things you need for building Aug 14 12:19:50 then you download the source tarball from the ubuntu site, unpack it, and hopefully find instructions in there to follow Aug 14 12:20:07 well i did dl the tarbal that they call source Aug 14 12:20:07 after that you'll have a kernel module to insmod Aug 14 12:20:14 and instructions arent there at all Aug 14 12:20:25 neither there is a makefile that can actualy do anything usefull Aug 14 12:20:33 which was the reason i originaly went here Aug 14 12:20:51 looking if there is some tool that can adapt that is on that site to what meego wants to have Aug 14 12:21:16 bcauase based on what i know - i dont have enough knowledge to do that manually Aug 14 12:21:29 I just checked, there are proper makefiles in the source Aug 14 12:21:45 have you looked inside of the makefile? Aug 14 12:21:50 yes Aug 14 12:22:11 and i am referring to https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa/+files/samsung-backlight_0.13.2~ppa1~loms~lucid.tar.gz Aug 14 12:22:20 perhaps i need to grab the other one Aug 14 12:22:33 no, that's the right one Aug 14 12:23:39 there's a directory samsung_backlight-0.13.2, chdir into that, type make, and you should get your module Aug 14 12:23:54 make gives me no targets Aug 14 12:24:56 and since grep gcc Makefile returns me nothing... i kinda unable to see how one can expect that makefile to compile anything Aug 14 12:25:39 unless miss somthing i can only see how it copies stuff Aug 14 12:26:44 15:23 < Aard> there's a directory samsung_backlight-0.13.2, chdir into that, type make, and you should get your module Aug 14 12:26:48 there is a makefule there... Aug 14 12:26:56 that makefile has 13 lines Aug 14 12:27:02 the only target is install Aug 14 12:27:10 and that copies things Aug 14 12:27:10 means it should work with make 3.82 ^.^ Aug 14 12:27:27 i dont see any refrences to compiler or linker Aug 14 12:27:37 Phazorx: would you please read and do what I'm telling you to do? Aug 14 12:28:14 bah Aug 14 12:28:17 okay ot it Aug 14 12:28:19 very sorry Aug 14 12:31:11 nate@blue[1011]:~ $ tar xf samsung-backlight_0.13.2~ppa1~loms~lucid.tar.gz Aug 14 12:31:16 nate@blue[1013]:~ $ cd samsung-backlight-0.13.2~ppa1~loms~lucid Aug 14 12:31:19 nate@blue[1014]:~/samsung-backlight-0.13.2~ppa1~loms~lucid $ make install Aug 14 12:31:21 :) Aug 14 12:33:25 CosmoHill: that's exactly what i been doing, but that was not what Aardtold me to do :) Aug 14 12:33:48 and make install still does nothing actually Aug 14 12:34:09 Phazorx: don't care about install, try do build the module in the subdirectory Aug 14 12:34:34 Aard: yes, got it, thanks, was very stupid of me not to read to the end of the path Aug 14 12:44:18 Aard: related questions,anoter thing missing is multitouch support for the touchpad, there is a xorg module on same repo aimed to deal with that... however several other things have also been suggested on meego forums, such as dealing with xorg.conf overlay Aug 14 12:44:45 i did ha, i see based on X.org.log that it reads the overlay, but it still unloads the module afterwards instead of using it Aug 14 12:45:11 is it somehwat incompatible module/driver issue or there is something else? Aug 14 12:46:14 http://pastie.org/1090322 that's what the log looked like before overlay Aug 14 12:46:44 now it looks very simlar, just more parsed options from .conf Aug 14 12:47:09 I have no idea, I'm only working on handset stuff where we have a very limited range of drivers (and usually others take care of them working properly) Aug 14 12:47:24 i see, thanks anyway Aug 14 12:53:15 Buy buy OpenSolaris .o/ Aug 14 12:53:30 silly oracle Aug 14 14:07:55 hello, whoever is speaking Polish? Aug 14 14:08:10 not me :) Aug 14 14:09:54 So I will try with my broken English Aug 14 14:10:02 ok Aug 14 14:11:13 what sdk i should use to make handset meego apps Aug 14 14:14:04 nokia qt sdk or meego sdk? Aug 14 14:16:57 anyone help? Aug 14 14:16:58 meego sdk for developing on meego Aug 14 14:19:09 but qt nokia sdk probably also allows you to create applications for Meego Aug 14 14:19:30 So I did not know what to use Aug 14 14:20:27 meego sdk Aug 14 14:20:39 you are developing apps on which system Aug 14 14:21:39 http://wiki.meego.com/Hello_World_-_MeeGo_x86_development_on_Linux Aug 14 14:23:28 amjad: this tutorial is for handset too? Aug 14 14:27:42 yes Aug 14 15:53:52 Stskeeps: can i pm you?? Aug 14 15:55:27 𝑹𝑰𝑷𝑳𝑶𝑳𝑺𝑼𝑷𝑮𝑼𝒀𝑺 Aug 14 15:55:35 DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 Aug 14 15:55:40 :| Aug 14 16:00:22 I think I speak for all of us when I say: "wtf?" Aug 14 16:00:43 :) Aug 14 16:04:57 hahah Aug 14 16:05:05 freddy just tried to attack me but he's in his ball Aug 14 16:06:04 ok, so I have meego on my, netbook and Joggler, Nexus 1 next, http://www.android-devs.com/?p=152 Aug 14 16:07:03 https://www.codeaurora.org/contribute/projects/xwinp/ Aug 14 16:07:55 google must love you Aug 14 16:08:14 or hire a hitman for you, I'm not sure Aug 14 16:19:41 vgrade, ah, I might finally find a use for the one from LFCS. Aug 14 16:21:54 probably going to start with my ols T-Mo Pulse as I don't use this as my main phone ATM Aug 14 16:23:59 amjad, sure but am low on battery Aug 14 17:22:49 hello, has anyone here tried using any applications off the portablelinuxapps web site? Aug 14 18:37:25 hello, has anyone here tried using any applications off the portablelinuxapps web site? Aug 14 18:40:27 ColdSun: nope Aug 14 18:45:58 I'm getting Errors when building my package in the community OBS, I don't get it because in my OBS the package builds without errors. Can I just switch them off? Aug 14 18:48:06 BuildRequires: -post-build-checks -rpmlint-Factory looks like my friend Aug 14 19:23:28 can anybody give me the link to the meego release calendar Aug 14 19:23:34 i once found Aug 14 19:23:35 it Aug 14 19:23:44 but now i couldn't find it Aug 14 19:26:40 april, october Aug 14 19:27:46 just like ubuntu.... Aug 14 19:28:02 and openSolaris....oh wait... >.> Aug 14 19:28:43 CosmoHill: that's closedSolaris now Aug 14 19:37:12 taljurf: maybe this is what you are looking for: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 Aug 14 19:51:25 ok, does anyone know how to disable rpmlint in my project? Aug 14 19:55:59 lbt, how's public obs? i've got time (and am ready) to start banging on it Aug 14 19:56:31 OK ... the maemo one is running Aug 14 19:57:22 you have an account there already don't you? Aug 14 19:58:00 I'll bbiab Aug 14 20:04:34 lbt, if forgot/lost my account :( Aug 14 20:04:56 lbt, it doesn't build for meego yet? Aug 14 20:04:57 hrm Aug 14 20:05:26 well, maybe my maemo package will build on obs since it doesn't build on the autobuilder Aug 14 20:06:27 may I ask, why does meego use RPM instead of RPM5? Aug 14 20:07:23 what's the diff? Aug 14 20:07:27 is rpm5 newer? Aug 14 20:07:31 yes Aug 14 20:07:43 that's probably an arjan question Aug 14 20:08:30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Package_Manager#RPM_v5 Aug 14 20:10:02 hmm Aug 14 20:10:13 also this: http://trainofthoughts.org/blog/2008/01/06/rpm5-vs-rpm/ Aug 14 20:14:58 Milhouse: very interesting but white on black screwed up my eyes >.< Aug 14 20:17:33 CosmoHill: back when we started moblin2, rpm5 was not stable Aug 14 20:17:49 when was Moblin2 started? Aug 14 20:17:50 not stable enough anyway Aug 14 20:17:58 over 2 years ago Aug 14 20:18:09 well over even Aug 14 20:19:04 I think rpm5 5.0.0 was just released Aug 14 20:19:21 so it was kind of a non-choice at the time Aug 14 20:19:36 rpm5 is ... rather weird. Aug 14 20:19:43 nobody is using it for a reason ;) Aug 14 20:19:54 the history of rpm5 is long and personal Aug 14 20:20:11 one of those "one of those days over a beer" kind of things Aug 14 20:21:17 seems like a pretty simple story to me Aug 14 20:21:43 RPM5 is better than RPM (it couldn't be really worse) but red hat and suse don't use it, so it has zero exposure Aug 14 20:22:04 well, that's the reason we never switched Aug 14 20:22:14 "better" Aug 14 20:22:22 the original choice for rpm4 was just based on the fact that rpm5 was barely released Aug 14 20:22:31 sofar:not really. Aug 14 20:22:34 even today I would not pick rpm5 Aug 14 20:22:40 if I had to make a new fresh pick Aug 14 20:22:40 agreed Aug 14 20:23:00 arjan: go code on powertop :P Aug 14 20:23:13 arjan: clearly you'd pick deb ;) Aug 14 20:23:39 lbt: only after drinking too much absynth Aug 14 20:23:44 * CosmoHill uses RPM5 but doesn't count as a major distro Aug 14 20:24:11 sofar: doing that too ;) Aug 14 20:24:23 sofar: at the moment jaegermeister is the sauna/packaging beverage of choice... Aug 14 20:24:24 the p state stuff works great in powertop2 now Aug 14 20:24:37 next is the wakeups Aug 14 20:24:55 arjan: I knew it Aug 14 20:24:57 btw anyone know how to use meego.gitorious behind a bloody firewall ? Aug 14 20:25:10 * arjan needs to push autospectacle Aug 14 20:25:13 arjan: lol I do Aug 14 20:25:18 but the current git tree is inside the intel firewall Aug 14 20:25:23 arjan: you know how you have powertop to identify the apps that need power analysis. We could do with something to identify where ssse3 is needed. Aug 14 20:25:24 but my NC setup is at work Aug 14 20:25:48 lbt: that whole discussion on the list is surreal. Aug 14 20:25:58 find a mechanism to minimise the work to provide a non-ssse3 solution somehow Aug 14 20:26:12 people don't know what they are asking for Aug 14 20:26:20 yeah... I tried so hard to point at the +/- es Aug 14 20:26:28 or at least, don't know how to ask the right question Aug 14 20:26:39 arjan: I can give you my setup monday morning in the office Aug 14 20:26:45 it needs an answer though Aug 14 20:26:56 it seems some folks agree they don't want ssse3.... but they don't agree on what they want instead Aug 14 20:27:00 we need anyone on any hardware to be able to get involved Aug 14 20:27:02 hello world Aug 14 20:27:14 lbt: even fedora cuts out a whole group of people Aug 14 20:27:21 and by that I mean any commodity desktop Aug 14 20:27:25 and that means AMD Aug 14 20:27:27 :) Aug 14 20:27:27 the line needs to be drawn somewhere Aug 14 20:27:34 the elephant in the room Aug 14 20:27:35 btw in case nobody noticed, this is auke Aug 14 20:27:36 if AMD wants to donate build hardware ;-) Aug 14 20:27:50 sofar: so nc is the way to go ? Aug 14 20:27:56 actually, MeeGo should be providing the common base Aug 14 20:27:56 arjan: yes Aug 14 20:27:57 does that work for git:// ? Aug 14 20:28:01 and Intel should optimise Aug 14 20:28:05 it needs 2 wrapper scripts and a ssh config file Aug 14 20:28:09 somehow Aug 14 20:28:17 arjan: yes, for both git:// and ssh:// urls just fine Aug 14 20:28:31 lbt: again nobody specified what the baseline they want is Aug 14 20:28:34 instead of having two totally separate distros, one optimized and one not, why not just provide two versions of packages that actually need optimization? Aug 14 20:28:39 lbt: and nobody has volunteered to pony up the hw Aug 14 20:28:48 we have the community OBS Aug 14 20:29:00 ali1234: that question cannot be answered unless you answer where you draw the baseline. Aug 14 20:29:03 I'm working like buggery to get that up Aug 14 20:29:10 http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/Installation Aug 14 20:29:15 arjan: gcc -march=i686 Aug 14 20:29:27 ali1234: wow that far back Aug 14 20:29:30 yes Aug 14 20:29:36 ali1234: then you'll have prolly 80% of the OS different Aug 14 20:29:39 painful Aug 14 20:29:42 anything using floating point Aug 14 20:29:46 i find it difficult to understand why that is the case Aug 14 20:29:50 someone needs to get a job so they can affoard a new system :) Aug 14 20:29:55 because we use SSE for all floating point Aug 14 20:30:12 and you're now cutting that off Aug 14 20:30:17 one thing that's needed is to identify where ssse3 is used Aug 14 20:30:31 even ali1234 and lbt have a different bar Aug 14 20:30:33 and 80% of packages make heavy use of floating point? Aug 14 20:30:44 arjan: that's facile Aug 14 20:30:45 ali1234: you'd be surprised... all the UI stuff is full of it Aug 14 20:31:13 all the ui scaling stuff Aug 14 20:31:39 the low level OS.. a lot less so, I'll give you that Aug 14 20:31:49 arjan: and that's a start Aug 14 20:31:56 what about kernel, gcc, and libc? Aug 14 20:31:59 identify the packages that need it Aug 14 20:32:06 ali1234: gcc and libc, yes Aug 14 20:32:07 kernel no Aug 14 20:32:10 ie what i would need to bootstrap the rest myself Aug 14 20:32:26 ali1234: don't do that Aug 14 20:32:34 ok then, what if we draw the line at sse2 then? Aug 14 20:33:00 party? Aug 14 20:33:09 I just ordered a grill Aug 14 20:33:14 ohhh grill Aug 14 20:33:22 * arjan ponders bringing the beer Aug 14 20:33:31 next weekend Aug 14 20:33:36 the grapes are getting red btw Aug 14 20:34:04 oh well Aug 14 20:34:19 * arjan gives up on gitorious Aug 14 20:34:34 arjan, git-proxy? Aug 14 20:34:48 trip0: if you have details on how to make it work.. by all means Aug 14 20:34:59 GIT_PROXY_COMMAND Aug 14 20:34:59 lbt: why shouldn't i bootstrap my own meego? Aug 14 20:35:07 need to get autospectacle out Aug 14 20:35:11 export, set it to ~/bin/git-proxy Aug 14 20:35:21 git-proxy is a wrapper to nc Aug 14 20:35:26 meego's nc works Aug 14 20:35:28 so that all meego packagers can now autopackage their stuff instead of whining about packaging standards and how deb was easier ;) Aug 14 20:35:40 test host name, and if it's internal don't use a proxy Aug 14 20:36:03 ali1234: 'cos we have 3 16-core/24Gb RAM build servers you can collaborate with others on... ? Aug 14 20:37:07 afk Aug 14 20:37:12 who is "we" exactly? Aug 14 20:37:15 ali1234: Why SSE2? SSE3 is supported by all recent desktop AMD CPUs. Aug 14 20:37:26 cos i'm really confused about which parts of meego are community or not Aug 14 20:37:35 ali1234: welcome to the club Aug 14 20:37:44 MeeGo.com *is* the community Aug 14 20:37:55 bunk: because i don;t see sse3 on list of things my amd chip supports :/ Aug 14 20:38:08 but then there's the 2nd class community too. ;) Aug 14 20:38:39 bunk: sssse3 ..... count the 's'es Aug 14 20:38:45 ali1234: What CPU do you have? Aug 14 20:38:59 bunk: phenom 2 (and i dont see sse3 OR ssse3) Aug 14 20:39:02 intel/amd marketing clearly wanted this to be as obvious as possible Aug 14 20:39:30 ali1234: phenom 2 supports SSE3 but not SSSE3 Aug 14 20:39:34 GIT_PROXY_COMMAND="/bin/nc.openbsd -x$PROXY:$PORT -X5 $*" Aug 14 20:39:49 arjan, that's what I use ^^ Aug 14 20:40:02 oh, also GIT_SSH Aug 14 20:41:43 ali1234: SSE3 is pni Aug 14 20:41:50 PORT is 911 or 1080 ? Aug 14 20:42:02 1080 Aug 14 20:42:37 i use "connect" for GIT_SSH Aug 14 20:43:57 export GIT_SSH="`echo ~`/bin/socks-ssh" where socks-ssh is: ssh -o ProxyCommand="/home/tripzero/bin/socks-gw %h %p" $@ and socks-gw is /usr/bin/connect -S $PROXY:1080 $@ Aug 14 20:44:28 hmm, this could probably be simplified Aug 14 20:45:27 success Aug 14 20:45:32 * arjan pushes autospectacle Aug 14 20:45:52 oh the ssh stuff I have done in my .ssh/config Aug 14 20:45:59 no need for git magic Aug 14 20:46:04 all ssh/scp/etc stuff just works Aug 14 20:46:07 nice Aug 14 20:46:27 lbt: how will public obs work? will it sync packages with trunk? Aug 14 20:46:43 yes Aug 14 20:46:58 no chance of "out-of-sync" issues? Aug 14 20:47:31 the main purpose is to build packages for MeeGo releases Aug 14 20:47:37 not to build MeeGo Aug 14 20:47:47 ahk Aug 14 20:48:07 it will sync with weekly snapshots to allow people to track building against meeg Aug 14 20:48:08 lbt, btw, you has pm ;) Aug 14 20:48:08 o Aug 14 20:48:17 lbt: sounds like the public obs would love autospectacle Aug 14 20:48:32 autospectacle will solve world hunger? Aug 14 20:48:38 autospectacle creates a clean compliant rpm package based on just an URL to a tarbal Aug 14 20:48:41 arjan: it should probably be a part of the app sdk Aug 14 20:48:45 for many upstreams Aug 14 20:48:47 and 'best practice' Aug 14 20:48:55 arjan, can that url be a git repo and a tag? Aug 14 20:49:03 trip0: not currently Aug 14 20:49:14 meego as distro does not accept git repo/tag combos only tarbals. Aug 14 20:49:22 (so far) Aug 14 20:49:23 and that's for a set of very good reasons Aug 14 20:49:35 with a tag it can make it's own tarball though Aug 14 20:49:38 git archive ftw Aug 14 20:49:43 you can. Aug 14 20:49:45 you shouldn't Aug 14 20:49:47 a tarball == a tag Aug 14 20:49:58 and indeed the OBS upstream are moving towards that Aug 14 20:50:02 lbt: only in the absence of someone who tries to screw you over Aug 14 20:50:22 so for meego we require the upstreams to make the tar, and preferably post a gpg signature too Aug 14 20:50:24 * lbt prefers the guarantee of a sha1 hash to a "this tarball" Aug 14 20:50:39 lbt: which is "fun" until you have a different gzip Aug 14 20:50:52 like the rsync friendly gzip... which causes the gzip'd stream to be different Aug 14 20:50:52 ? Aug 14 20:51:03 from people without the rsync friendly gzip Aug 14 20:51:12 at which point you're not going to get an identical tarbal between machines Aug 14 20:51:34 you mean gzip -9 != gzip -1 ? Aug 14 20:51:37