**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 25 02:59:57 2010 Aug 25 04:33:57 can i embed carrick connectin panel in my Qt Application, as there is an option -w in carrick panel which says embed it in another app. Aug 25 04:41:04 punit: you could try wrapping the panel in QProcess and showing the it in QX11EmbedContainer to see if it works. Aug 25 04:42:13 timoph : thanx timoph , i will see if it works Aug 25 06:24:07 Error: failed to create image : Failed to build transaction : Missing Dependency: gtk2 is needed by package meego-handset-icon-theme-0.0.4-2.20.noarch (handset) Aug 25 06:24:19 any ideas why? Aug 25 06:24:41 1) what arch are you building for and 2) what arch is your repo lines? Aug 25 06:25:11 strait from the codedrop Aug 25 06:25:32 did you remember --arch=armv7l ? Aug 25 06:27:58 If by remembering you mean "did you know that you need" Aug 25 06:28:01 that would be a no :) Aug 25 06:28:09 what .ks file are you using? Aug 25 06:28:34 meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-proprietary-1.0.80.15.20100817.1.ks Aug 25 06:28:56 ok, good Aug 25 06:29:13 maybe the image creation page should mention that option Aug 25 06:30:34 which page are you looking at? Aug 25 06:30:44 http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation# Aug 25 06:43:48 Morning! Aug 25 06:44:04 zzz Aug 25 06:45:12 Lazy bones :) Aug 25 06:55:15 lbt: lol! :) Aug 25 06:55:37 morn jeremiah Aug 25 06:55:37 (mutter . . . illiterate americans.) Aug 25 06:55:43 Stskeeps: Hiya! Aug 25 06:55:49 Jaffa: Hi to you to sir! Aug 25 07:11:55 genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'! Aug 25 07:12:07 what -f are you using? Aug 25 07:13:07 livecd Aug 25 07:13:29 should it be liveusb? Aug 25 07:13:33 .. what instructions are you using? Aug 25 07:13:44 you're making a boot for n900, right? Aug 25 07:13:48 yes Aug 25 07:15:56 what instructions should I be using? :) Aug 25 07:16:34 sec Aug 25 07:16:42 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Creating_ARM_image_using_MeeGo_Image_Creator Aug 25 07:16:52 do i want to ask why you're not just getting a weekly image? Aug 25 07:17:03 I need packages from my own obs Aug 25 07:17:05 ah Aug 25 07:18:01 as I said, I just ended up to the normal meego image creation page Aug 25 07:22:27 google took me there with no indication that I'm lost Aug 25 07:50:44 jeremiah: Yo! Making it to the conference? Aug 25 08:02:24 Jaffa: I sure hope so! :) Aug 25 08:02:44 It should be a lot of fun. Aug 25 08:20:28 I've downloaded the latest kernel source from the repo, it comes with all patches. are these provided for reference or do I have to apply them all? Aug 25 08:21:03 check 'series' file Aug 25 08:21:39 there isn't one with the package, do you mean somewhere else? Aug 25 08:21:48 hm? should be Aug 25 08:23:16 This is where I got the package from: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.0/lastest/core/repos/source/ Aug 25 08:35:21 moin Aug 25 08:35:36 so - what'd I miss in the last couple of months? Aug 25 08:36:54 well, if you have a conference proposal for meego conference you have until friday to submit :P Aug 25 08:49:23 anyone got a link to docu about the x-moblin/x-meego fields available for .desktop files? Aug 25 08:51:07 has UTouch Framework been considered as a base inteface counterpart for MeeGo? Aug 25 08:52:13 Phazorx: probably better to ask for meego-dev@ Aug 25 08:55:09 heh, no devs here? Aug 25 08:55:22 there are, but architecture questions is better answered on mailing list Aug 25 09:23:22 I'm about to change the order of the Search/Go buttons on wiki.meego.com Aug 25 09:36:04 I've changed the button ordering on wiki.meego.com as per http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5571 Aug 25 09:36:16 excellent Aug 25 09:42:35 townxelliot: thanks. Works much better this way. Aug 25 09:42:46 What do people use to create MeeGo images? Aug 25 09:42:52 The latest version of MeeGo? Aug 25 09:42:57 jeremiah: fedora vm Aug 25 09:43:04 timoph: you're welcome Aug 25 09:43:08 actually, a fedora chroot Aug 25 09:43:24 jeremiah: i have a discussion thread on this topic and the situation within meego is improving Aug 25 09:43:27 Don't you have to install a bunch of other stuff on fedora? Aug 25 09:43:33 Stskeeps: ah, where? :) Aug 25 09:43:38 meego-dev Aug 25 09:43:44 Cool, thanks. Aug 25 09:43:49 * jeremiah goes to read the dev list Aug 25 09:52:27 Stskeeps: Do you remember what your thread was called? Aug 25 09:52:32 I can't seem to find it. :/ Aug 25 09:54:20 Proposal: Providing a compelling device porter environment for ARM and X86 using (platform?) SDK Aug 25 09:56:47 morning all Aug 25 09:57:10 morn lbt Aug 25 09:58:05 * X-Fade got a first package built on the meego community OBS on OSU hardware ;) Aug 25 09:58:19 woo Aug 25 09:58:22 yay Aug 25 09:59:33 \0/ Aug 25 09:59:55 lbt_away: I'll give you illiterate. Aug 25 10:01:15 :) Aug 25 10:01:56 lbt, X-Fade what is the formal process to request an account on build.meego.com ? this is for read-only access (to mirror project/packages) Aug 25 10:02:22 odin_: you don't need it to mirror Aug 25 10:03:18 explain (the response presume you know my needs, which you may or you maybe just guessing) Aug 25 10:03:34 quote "(to mirror project/packages)" Aug 25 10:03:58 you've still lost me Aug 25 10:04:09 hello Aug 25 10:04:18 what do you think my need is ? lets start there Aug 25 10:05:05 you have a raw chicken and need to make a sunday roast. In order to do this you need a helper application in the kitchen.... Aug 25 10:05:17 * lbt thinks guessing may not be the quickest solution Aug 25 10:06:12 I have a raw chicken . . . Aug 25 10:06:27 * lbt is off-by-one Aug 25 10:06:36 yes so, lets move back to my original statement (which was not discussing my needs), it was asking what the process is to request read-only access to build.meego.com for the purpose of getting download visibility of the project/packages Aug 25 10:07:14 since when this is a channel about cooking_ Aug 25 10:07:18 ? :) Aug 25 10:07:22 * jeremiah files a bug against mic2 Aug 25 10:07:37 (won't work in MeeGo 1.0 IVI) Aug 25 10:07:54 odin_: there is no process (AFAIK) to get a read-only account Aug 25 10:08:03 the OBS is however being upgraded Aug 25 10:08:08 this week we hear Aug 25 10:08:21 to allow general anonymous read-only access Aug 25 10:08:30 is this for 2.x ? Aug 25 10:08:41 I think the next MeeGo release is 1.1 Aug 25 10:08:55 OBS 2.1-ish... yes Aug 25 10:08:56 OBS version 2.x (since meaemo/meego has been using 1.7/1.8) Aug 25 10:09:14 meego community is on 2.1-ish already Aug 25 10:09:26 lbt: Do you guys have ACLs already? Aug 25 10:09:37 probably Aug 25 10:09:42 wow. Aug 25 10:09:56 Not tested yet though ;) Aug 25 10:09:57 although adrianS will shoot you Aug 25 10:10:06 OBS has always had ACLs Aug 25 10:10:22 but they never made a "read-restriction" acl Aug 25 10:10:37 and they didn't have "anonymous" access Aug 25 10:11:06 * lbt would like to find the docs for read-control/anon though Aug 25 10:11:43 upgrade to obs v2.x scheduled soon is good to hear and it probably will be next week before I want to perform a mirror Aug 25 10:13:56 I wonder if its possible to subscribe to commit data, so a mirror could be kept up to sync largely without polling, "myProject:myPackage went from version 1 to version 2" Aug 25 10:16:37 Isn't it possible to ask Anas for a rsync instance? Aug 25 10:16:43 so what kind of "mirror" are you trying to achieve? Aug 25 10:17:32 Sounds like linking your OBS instance? Aug 25 10:17:41 it is generally good manners to work with admins to determine the most efficient solution to a problem Aug 25 10:17:43 well SDK+base+image packages for other arch's (i.e. ones not committed to by Nokia/Intel) Aug 25 10:18:18 odin_: Another option would be to have projects published in the repo? Aug 25 10:18:23 nb odin_ I'm *not* an admin there :) Aug 25 10:18:38 yes I have seen the "obs link" in the diagram but don't understand it enough to know if its the right tool for the job, I was thinking that anyone could checkin an update and it could be notified asap so other archs can be built (i.e. ones not support by Noka/Intel) Aug 25 10:18:48 but we are doing an almost identical thing setting up the community OBS Aug 25 10:18:57 and we don't need an account Aug 25 10:19:01 so I wonder why you do Aug 25 10:19:17 We just grab snapshots of the published repository. Aug 25 10:19:25 no I'm after the mirror to be a SCM mirror of the input data (project/package/filelist) Aug 25 10:19:55 why? Aug 25 10:20:05 not of the *.src.rpm package, they are outputs for distribution purposes Aug 25 10:20:58 I see it as less work to maintain, patches/changes would be identical to those applied to the original source Aug 25 10:21:23 AFAIK it's a serious bug if the src.rpm doesn't do that Aug 25 10:21:53 I believe an account is needed to use 'osc' to then be able to download each version and therefore track SCM versions of OBS packages Aug 25 10:21:56 so I may need to learn something here Aug 25 10:22:32 Read only api access would be needed then. Aug 25 10:22:42 odin_: that's a horrendous load you'd be placing on the OBS.... essentially VCS-clone via screen-scraping Aug 25 10:23:12 whereas an inter-link would do that on demand Aug 25 10:23:20 for just the package needed Aug 25 10:23:31 again... what's the ultimate objective here? Aug 25 10:23:44 yes I would need to learn more about what inter-link and "obs link" does/provides Aug 25 10:24:11 an SCM clone of the OBS input data, the OBS input data is under version control and is project/package/filelist Aug 25 10:24:33 that's not an objective :) Aug 25 10:24:35 that's a task Aug 25 10:24:44 odin_: But what are you trying to create? An alternative SDK? Aug 25 10:24:48 the objective may be disaster recovery Aug 25 10:25:10 FWIW Nokia doesn't do that to produce their meego product Aug 25 10:25:20 the objective is to have an independant OBS setup (which yes can be used for alternative archs, alternative SDK, target experimentation, etc...) Aug 25 10:25:39 but paid for by someone else and outside of the MeeGo political system Aug 25 10:26:58 mmm Aug 25 10:27:27 If I was an OBS admin I'd be concerned about the load placed on the system taking your approach Aug 25 10:27:58 the OBS has an internal VCS which is part of the workflow Aug 25 10:28:05 are you trying to mimic that? Aug 25 10:28:24 yes Aug 25 10:28:34 you can't Aug 25 10:29:22 it seems like asking to have access to the ext4 filesystem journal as a way to do backups Aug 25 10:29:29 sure it might work Aug 25 10:29:51 but it'd screw the system so badly, would probably go wrong and is generally a "bad idea" Aug 25 10:30:47 I agree there are things we should have VCS access to Aug 25 10:30:58 like prjconf files etc Aug 25 10:31:46 odin_: I would suggest asking on #obs too .... they may offer a solution Aug 25 10:32:59 osc co -r1 myProject:myPackage; scm add myProject/myPackage/*; scm commit myProject/myPackage # I'm somewhat happy how to mirror it with osc reliably, the only load on the server is downloading of each revision exactly once and the load needed to track commits (link maybe push, otherwise a slow poll of each package) Aug 25 10:33:36 also not all packages are to be mirrored, only core/base/SDK kind of stuff Aug 25 10:34:34 you checkout and commit to another place? Aug 25 10:34:36 the load on the server above, is minor compared to the load needed to build the packages for more arch's Aug 25 10:34:59 yes checkout from build.meego.com and commit to build.mylocalobs.com Aug 25 10:35:06 how about copypac Aug 25 10:35:32 don't all those commands only work from within the confines of one OBS system ? Aug 25 10:35:39 nope Aug 25 10:36:00 or I did something accidentally Aug 25 10:36:06 it Aug 25 10:36:46 It can be done across buildservice instances, if the -t option is used." Aug 25 10:37:38 maybe "osc copypac --client-side-copy -r1 --to-apiurl build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/somePackage" ? Aug 25 10:38:13 hdfgdfgdf Aug 25 10:38:32 srrt was testin . .first time on IRC :X Aug 25 10:38:48 anyhow this can be worked out once visibility on packages in build.meego.com is possible, hence the request for account, but happy to wait a week for OBS 2.x Aug 25 10:40:30 ok no parking at Aviva venue possible on futbol game night (Weds) with conference Aug 25 10:40:38 * odin_ ponders to hire a car Aug 25 10:43:41 lbt, not sure what tangent lbs was on with the ext4/journal to do backups example Aug 25 10:44:54 odin_: essentially if you want to clone the OBS then you don't do it by trying to track incremental changes... Aug 25 10:45:47 the rational for that statement is ? (remember I an talking about tracking release packages, so all commits should have already been tested in :Unstable) Aug 25 10:47:05 caveat: sure package scope maybe extended later but not current goals Aug 25 10:47:09 so for the kernel you would pull the entire tarball for every single commit Aug 25 10:47:12 duh Aug 25 10:47:48 you would also pull the entire tarball when a .patch changes Aug 25 10:48:02 although that may be avoided Aug 25 10:49:17 nope, think of it like this: "obs checkout -r42 build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel", some magic, "obs update -r43 build.meego.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel", some magic, "obs commit build.mylocalobs.com MeeGo-1.1/kernel" Aug 25 10:49:31 command args not real just indicative Aug 25 10:50:33 but plenty of people who are building the kernel locally _WILL_ be pulling the entire tarball Aug 25 11:01:17 * CosmoHill shoots "we buy any car" Aug 25 11:36:09 hi, can anyone of the steering committee explain why does meego use RPM instead of Deb for package management? this choice seems strange since maemo had much more endusers than moblin and there were lots of Deb packages created by the community for the platform that need to be converted to RPM Aug 25 11:36:30 alien_: I'm sure it's been explained on the forums and mailing lists Aug 25 11:37:06 alien_: if you try the chain package -> OBS -> mic2 -> device, you would understand. Aug 25 11:37:15 one reason maybe that OBS is better suited to using RPMs Aug 25 11:37:15 (and i'm from maemo.org) Aug 25 11:38:41 alien_: i don't think it can be logically justified. each format has pros and cons. a choice was made. that's it. Aug 25 11:42:02 da4089: indeed, but I wouldn't be surprised if the horde of n900 users won't create a "fork" using Deb packaging :) Aug 25 11:42:29 alien_: they've had a lot of chance by now, but frankly, it's not worth it.. Aug 25 11:42:37 alien_: also, those distros won't be meego compliant. Aug 25 11:44:51 Stskeeps, which only matters if you care about compliance Aug 25 11:45:24 mdp: mm Aug 25 11:45:49 either way, the current setup is quite compelling and flexible :P Aug 25 11:46:05 alien_, what is it you like about deb itself ? (other than familiarity, if I were to label myself a distro fanboi, it would be Red Hat which also means I welcome the change) Aug 25 11:46:47 odin_: It is more than just a packaging format, it is a community of expert devs. Aug 25 11:46:59 alien_: you should have been here months ago when there were lots of debs vs rpm debates Aug 25 11:47:02 But that is all I'm gonna say about this because everyone knows how I feel. :) Aug 25 11:47:20 yeah, too late to fix things now Aug 25 11:47:20 :P Aug 25 11:47:52 I will say this - mic is better supported in Debian than MeeGo IVI Aug 25 11:48:23 ow Aug 25 11:48:24 :P Aug 25 11:48:27 odin_: nothing, actually I come from gentoo, but IMHO when merging two distros it would make more sense to keep the packaging format of the distro which had more users Aug 25 11:48:57 alien_: You would think that wouldn't you. But then you are probably using common sense. Aug 25 11:49:08 in the end, it's just packaging Aug 25 11:49:14 but we can all agree that obs is a major productivity boost and allows vendors to keeps more up to date than maemo5 was Aug 25 11:49:17 you have a serious problem if your software depends on the packaging to function Aug 25 11:49:20 No, in the end it is community! Aug 25 11:49:29 * jeremiah shuts up Aug 25 11:49:36 after just doing the rpm packages, it was just a set of problems transformed into another set of problems :) Aug 25 11:50:38 GNOME/Hildon/Clutter vs Qt is a much bigger issue for the platform than deb vs rpm. Aug 25 11:50:48 and I'm not sure if using deb packaging with obs within the timescale was a real option Aug 25 11:50:49 Stskeeps, it would also be a problem if something like OBS was designed for one type of packaging Aug 25 11:50:54 mdp: except it isn't Aug 25 11:51:04 we had Mer on OBS just fine :) Aug 25 11:51:38 Stskeeps, I would hope not :) otherwise I'd wonder why the web stuff didn't just backend on OE that handles multiple package formats Aug 25 11:52:09 I think the interesting thing about OBS is way up the chain from packaging and build Aug 25 11:52:24 right, the four magic words: deb, gentoo, oe and rpm Aug 25 11:52:26 time for lunch Aug 25 11:52:27 :P Aug 25 11:52:45 Fifth magic word: lunch Aug 25 11:53:01 Stskeeps, almost sounds like invoking some Godwin's law variant :) Aug 25 11:54:29 mdp, on a sidenote, anas is on holiday and the other maintainer isn't answering, so i think you'll have to use official channels. what i personally doubt is if it's appropiate to start arm builds of 1.1 IVI Aug 25 11:54:48 and not first start it as part of roadmap in 1.2 Aug 25 11:55:01 as we're approaching feature freeze Aug 25 11:55:05 right Aug 25 11:55:07 ok Aug 25 11:55:15 *sigh*..I truly hate official channels Aug 25 11:55:19 but let's see what you can make work on the official channels Aug 25 11:56:05 otherwise there's nothing in compliance stopping you from building ARM IVI yourself Aug 25 11:57:33 yeah, not an issue...the exercise here is to get the maintainers to be responsive since they've volunteered or been assigned to the roles. get official builds of a mainstream UX on a popular architecture to allow more people to test Aug 25 11:57:50 and obviously, get it on more h/w people have in there hands Aug 25 11:58:22 conceptually, it's something the meego overlords would want..but I realize everybody has their own short-term priorities Aug 25 11:58:27 s/there/their Aug 25 11:59:13 :nod: Aug 25 12:00:23 Stskeeps, it's a tough job creating an open project out from two corporations and a zillion people..I understand that :) Aug 25 12:01:52 ugh..corp townhall meeting time :( Aug 25 12:04:19 morning guys \o Aug 25 12:37:33 can anyone suggest me how to add a external application in Qt MainWindow. i tried QX11EmbedContainer but external application is running outside mainwindow Aug 25 12:40:49 punit, do you want to grab an app that's already running or start a new one? Aug 25 12:42:14 Getting an error with mic2 Aug 25 12:42:17 Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. Aug 25 12:42:39 No mention of 'mainrepo' on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=mic2;dist=unstable Aug 25 12:43:14 poutsi: i want to start a new one(carrick-connection-panel) Aug 25 12:43:28 Sorry, I meant this page: http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#From_Binary_Packages Aug 25 12:43:47 punit, implement a tiny embedded X server and run the app in that :) Aug 25 12:44:02 or not implement so much as steal Aug 25 12:46:44 punit: are you using libmeegotouch? Aug 25 13:11:28 * CosmoHill growls Aug 25 13:11:39 a typo has cost me hours of time Aug 25 13:21:20 CosmoHill: You must be programming C++? Aug 25 13:21:26 :P Aug 25 13:21:48 hrm... is three a way to work around this in meego: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/308191 ? Aug 25 13:30:14 Termana: actually this was an xml file used to kickstart a installation Aug 25 13:30:21 or kickstat as I put >.< Aug 25 13:30:42 mardy : nops i am not using libmeegotouch Aug 25 13:37:55 quit Aug 25 14:10:39 * Stskeeps waves good morning to the afternoon to night shift Aug 25 14:14:42 hello Aug 25 14:19:05 hello Aug 25 14:20:15 hi Aug 25 14:35:37 I think that typos cos me 5 mins :( Aug 25 14:37:13 that's cheap Aug 25 14:37:19 most typos cost 2 days of debugging Aug 25 14:37:45 that doesn't include debugging Aug 25 14:38:35 for example I got "error, now such value "-a" Aug 25 14:38:42 I knew where it was and fixed it Aug 25 14:38:57 5 mins later the image has been rebuilt Aug 25 14:40:07 my debugging is probably a lot faster cos I don't have so much to look at Aug 25 14:49:30 stupid thing "/mnt/win not found". It's not found cos it's not partitioned the disc like it's meant to Aug 25 15:09:30 hometime :) Aug 25 16:15:30 wb arjan Aug 25 16:17:55 mikhas: hi Michael, I just got your comment on the merge request. I agree with you. I'll change the signal name, do you think your suggestion (prepareForThemeChange) is fine then? Maybe "themeChanging" ? I'm fine with both Aug 25 16:18:22 heya fleury - I poked the maintainer of the module Aug 25 16:18:39 Nice, and what's the feedback? Aug 25 16:18:41 yeah, propose "themeChanging" in a comment there Aug 25 16:18:49 no feedback yet ;-) Aug 25 16:18:58 hi all Aug 25 16:19:00 ah ok :-) Aug 25 16:19:02 but adding a signal should be simple Aug 25 16:19:23 or rather: since I follow the components ML, I agree that the signal is needed Aug 25 16:19:53 :-) so you have a nice understanding of the rationale behind Aug 25 16:19:55 if you want to use the MTheme stuf outside of MTF, it becomes a necessity Aug 25 16:20:02 yep Aug 25 16:20:17 (deep understand => ran into similar issues ;-) Aug 25 16:20:32 did you cheat? :) Aug 25 16:20:59 timeless_mbp, me? sure, I always cheat ... Aug 25 16:21:24 hi dneary Aug 25 16:21:26 hehe, that's actually the same reason I'm talking about in this one http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/merge_requests/342 Aug 25 16:23:25 mikhas: ^ Aug 25 16:23:29 oh that stuff ... Aug 25 16:23:38 hehe Aug 25 16:23:52 try calling that function with a pixmap size greater than the memory in your box ;-) Aug 25 16:24:40 X will complain? Aug 25 16:25:04 a kitten will definitely die Aug 25 16:25:09 x complaints are generally death sentences... Aug 25 16:25:52 Hehe I'm being kind :) Aug 25 16:26:46 fleury, on the positive side, this MR was not rejected yet ;-) Aug 25 16:26:48 talking about megotouch - has UTouch been even considered as alternative? Aug 25 16:26:54 which means: you probably have a point there Aug 25 16:27:49 Like, from LMT side, my understanding is that returning null pixmaps is a bug, and a sign of that is the fact that the documentation said the method does soemthing it does not. Aug 25 16:27:57 Aug 25 16:28:06 fleury, yup Aug 25 16:28:28 async pixmap requests are intended to be "fire and forget", from the application side Aug 25 16:28:30 The other request, keep the size of invalid pixmaps to 1x1, then that's more of a personal request, since my use case is not mainstream Aug 25 16:28:39 a null pixmap certainly doesnt fit into that Aug 25 16:28:43 yup Aug 25 16:33:34 fleury, you could also consider filing bugs at bugs.meego.com for this Aug 25 16:34:35 mikhas: nice, is that the more usual workflow in meego? Aug 25 16:34:43 bugs are more visible Aug 25 16:35:22 best way actually is: 1. bug report, 2. solution in patch/MR, referencing the bug Aug 25 16:35:59 is the community OBS playing up? Aug 25 16:36:02 Processing files: imlib2-1.4.4-10.1.i586 Aug 25 16:36:03 getOutputFrom(): Broken pipe Aug 25 16:36:03 [ 69.707585] SysRq : Power Off Aug 25 16:36:03 [ 70.703371] Power down. Aug 25 16:36:12 andre__, (andre?), where to I find MTF on bugs.meego.com? Aug 25 16:36:22 I think I should follow that component ... Aug 25 16:36:29 arfoll: maaan! i told ya, don't press that button! Aug 25 16:36:48 ah, Handset UX > libmeegotouch Aug 25 16:36:56 mikhas: It's andre__. ;-) Aug 25 16:37:01 you're welcome. :-P Aug 25 16:37:18 slonopotamus, ok so it is broken? Cause that's fine it's good to know i'm not just being dumb Aug 25 16:37:43 nice, I'll follow that Aug 25 16:37:48 arfoll: no idea actually :) just last two lines looked funny :) Aug 25 16:38:28 andre, can you change this "handheld-libdui-bugs@meego.bugs" to handheld-wtf err handheld-mtf-bugs@...? Aug 25 16:38:37 we dont drive under the influence any longer ;-) Aug 25 16:38:57 slonopotamus, sorry humour is on holiday today... Aug 25 16:39:17 mikhas, file a bug. I'm not a bugs.meego.com maintainer. (I think so, at least, never tried if I have permissions.) Aug 25 16:39:26 aaah Aug 25 16:39:28 how come! Aug 25 16:39:41 why should? Aug 25 16:40:05 1. it's a bugzilla bugtracker, 2. ... ;-) Aug 25 16:40:25 I don't yell for administrating yet another bugzilla. Already have some. ;-) Aug 25 16:41:05 mikhas: Tell Intel/Nokia/whoever that I'm a nice person, promise them some cookies or cake, make them give me permissions, done? :-P Aug 25 16:41:33 yeah yeah Aug 25 16:42:15 andre__, I think you need cokies also with that don't you? :) Aug 25 16:42:38 cookies even Aug 25 16:42:46 * lcuk must update keyboard Aug 25 16:43:40 lcuk: some cookie crumbs under your keys? ;-) Aug 25 16:44:16 i wish Aug 25 16:44:24 cookies are delicious but I haven't had any all year Aug 25 16:45:55 * andre__ looks at the remainder of his honeycake Aug 25 16:46:57 andre__: Don't let it go old. Kill it ;) Aug 25 17:18:50 lbt, is it ready yet? Aug 25 17:19:04 :D Aug 25 17:21:35 fleury, got your bug mail ;-) Aug 25 17:22:23 BMC#5828 - now include that in the MR's commit subject somewhere, like "Fixes: BMC#5828" Aug 25 17:27:15 renato: it built it's first package tonight Aug 25 17:27:23 we're working on the arm setup right now Aug 25 17:27:28 and I've made a logo Aug 25 17:35:49 lbt, nice, if you want I have some packages to test, we just finished the pyside-mobility and almost finished meego touch Aug 25 17:35:58 bindings Aug 25 18:37:58 DawnFoster: is there any easy way to export current session proposals? Aug 25 18:38:26 stskeeps: we have an admin function to export them in csv Aug 25 18:38:44 as someone on the selection committee, you should have access to it. Aug 25 18:39:19 when you log in, do you see a little wrench in the upper left corner of the screen? Aug 25 18:39:29 nop Aug 25 18:40:56 DawnFoster, if you have a little wench in the corner you are on the wrong website Aug 25 18:43:33 stskeeps: mrshaver is giving you access now Aug 25 18:43:54 DawnFoster: thanks - i have some spare time so it would be a good time to preliminarily read some Aug 25 18:44:57 ah, i see it now :) Aug 25 18:45:09 stskeeps - cool Aug 25 18:45:29 thanks :) Aug 25 18:46:24 stskeeps: we're still working on improving the reports, so let us know if you need anything else Aug 25 18:46:49 it should also give you access to do other things after the committee starts approving sessions Aug 25 18:46:58 yeah, i was mainly fishing for the presentation proposals in one single readable document Aug 25 18:47:05 will see if i can make csv output do that Aug 25 18:47:46 do I get the feeling that you got more than expected at one point? Aug 25 18:47:55 also has RSS format (anyone can get access to that) Aug 25 18:48:08 lbt: more session proposals? Aug 25 18:48:11 yeah, at least RSS only showed a few proposals Aug 25 18:48:12 yes Aug 25 18:48:33 but that might just be my reader Aug 25 18:48:39 lbt: I'd say that this is about what we were hoping for Aug 25 18:48:56 I'm really happy with the number / quality Aug 25 18:49:07 lbt: think we're going to be able to put together a pretty interesting program, yeah Aug 25 18:49:15 we extended the deadline to Friday to fill in a few gaps, but overall it's looking really good Aug 25 18:49:27 *nod* ... I wondered if there could be some consolidation in the meego apps/garage/obs area Aug 25 18:50:38 anyhow... you need to get a handle on it first.... good luck :) Aug 25 19:02:04 hi2all Aug 25 19:04:18 i am online or not? Aug 25 19:04:26 nope Aug 25 19:59:22 Hi. what type of browser will Meego use? chrome? Aug 25 20:00:21 Depends on the Ux Aug 25 20:00:32 and possibly vendors will wander, too. Aug 25 20:00:50 But Chrome, Firefox or Fennec seem to be the choices. Aug 25 20:01:21 GAN900, they all are gtk Aug 25 20:01:32 GAN900, ain't meego moving to qt? Aug 25 20:01:57 slonopotamus, dunno the specifics of the toolkits, but that's what they're using right now. Aug 25 20:03:32 GAN900: I see.. Aug 25 20:03:39 GAN900: Thanks! Aug 25 20:03:44 fennec-qt exits Aug 25 20:03:45 exists Aug 25 20:04:46 Doesn't qt include a webkit widget? is that good enough to build a complete browser on top of it? Aug 25 20:08:33 the html rendering piece is almost the simplest part of what makes a browser a browser Aug 25 20:10:40 I guess it still needs a javascript engine.. Aug 25 20:13:10 the javascript engine is in there too as part of webkit Aug 25 20:13:35 * TSCHAKeee built a simple browser for LinuxMCE using the webkit embedded in Qt Aug 25 20:13:46 cool Aug 25 20:14:37 what's still needed besides the UI to do things like navigation and settings then?? Aug 25 20:15:43 not much Aug 25 20:15:56 Stskeeps: ping Aug 25 20:17:01 plonk Aug 25 20:17:18