**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 30 02:59:57 2010
Aug 30 06:28:57 <ali_z> hi all, does any long press key event in the MTF?
Aug 30 07:54:24 <amjad> morning
Aug 30 08:10:54 <vlj> hi
Aug 30 08:11:19 <vlj> vgrade: did you made a new img with new emgd drivers or ...?
Aug 30 08:57:11 <adeus> Any ideas why mic-image-creator doesn't create the isolinux directory?
Aug 30 08:57:19 <adeus> genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!
Aug 30 09:10:19 * fcrozat would love to see a redirector on bugs.meego.com to accept bugs.meego.com/bug_number url :)
Aug 30 09:10:51 <X-Fade> file a bug for it?
Aug 30 09:11:32 <fcrozat> will do
Aug 30 09:12:04 <fcrozat> http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1128
Aug 30 09:13:36 <Stskeeps> bug 1128
Aug 30 09:13:37 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 30 09:13:43 * Stskeeps pokes infobot
Aug 30 09:14:13 <X-Fade> Stskeeps: not on this channel?
Aug 30 09:14:24 <Stskeeps> ah
Aug 30 09:14:45 <psycho_oreos> !bug 1128
Aug 30 09:30:55 * thiago likes the bugbot
Aug 30 10:17:27 <vgrade> vlj, morning, not done anything with EMGD yet
Aug 30 10:18:07 <vgrade> vlj, I've been working on getting MeeGo up on my T-Mobile Pulse
Aug 30 10:18:35 <vgrade> vlj, not having much luck at the moment, kernel problems
Aug 30 10:19:39 <vgrade> vlj, EMGD builds for Joggler and netbook is the next job
Aug 30 10:34:32 <DocScrutinizer> infobot doesn't do bug ticket deref, that's povbot that does
Aug 30 10:34:38 <DocScrutinizer> ~botsnack
Aug 30 10:34:38 <infobot> aw, gee, DocScrutinizer
Aug 30 10:35:34 <DocScrutinizer> Stskeeps: talk to mgedmin about getting povbot here
Aug 30 10:36:00 <DocScrutinizer> umm, it should be here, no?
Aug 30 10:36:09 <DocScrutinizer>  http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/
Aug 30 10:36:11 <Stskeeps> just doesn't respond to bmc
Aug 30 10:36:19 <DocScrutinizer> so prolly just needs some config
Aug 30 10:49:57 <CosmoHill> marcob: you're from nokia, right?
Aug 30 10:55:14 <slaine> ah man, the community meeting is a 05:00 UTC
Aug 30 10:55:54 <slaine> and it's the first day of the new school term
Aug 30 10:56:06 <slaine> not sure how involved I'll be
Aug 30 10:56:34 <CosmoHill> that's 6am GMT?
Aug 30 10:56:39 <slaine> yup
Aug 30 10:56:48 <slaine> Well, no
Aug 30 10:56:53 <slaine> GMT == UTC I thought
Aug 30 10:56:56 <CosmoHill> are we allowed to be grouchy?
Aug 30 10:56:58 <CosmoHill> BST*
Aug 30 10:57:00 <slaine> nod
Aug 30 10:57:04 <Stskeeps> CosmoHill: yes
Aug 30 10:57:05 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 30 10:57:31 <CosmoHill> say something that annoys us and we'll grumble you to death
Aug 30 10:57:34 <lbt> vgrade: ping.... Meego community tomorrow am ... ssse3
Aug 30 10:58:10 <CosmoHill> due to my trouble sleeping,  I'll either be up and there or totally out of it
Aug 30 10:58:44 <lcuk> sleeptyping!
Aug 30 10:59:06 <CosmoHill> I had a werid dream last night so you wouldn't want that
Aug 30 10:59:24 <lcuk> heh
Aug 30 11:00:03 <adeus> wolfram alpha is handy when figuring out those time differences
Aug 30 11:01:12 <CosmoHill> it's easy for lbt, lcuk, slaine and myself :)
Aug 30 11:01:32 <lcuk> speak for yourself
Aug 30 11:01:49 <lcuk> i am forever confounded by time diffs
Aug 30 11:01:49 <CosmoHill> i mean working out the time differences
Aug 30 11:01:59 <CosmoHill> but...we own GMT
Aug 30 11:02:27 <lcuk> sure and if everyone else would use it we would be ok :P
Aug 30 11:03:09 <lcuk> i mean 13:00 +4 PMT
Aug 30 11:03:45 <lcuk> if we are at that time and I leave the toilet seat up, will my girlfriend shout at me
Aug 30 11:04:26 <CosmoHill> I never understood that thing
Aug 30 11:04:42 <CosmoHill> guys put it up, girls put it down, the cycle of life goes on
Aug 30 11:05:34 <lcuk> of course, you can just put an end to that sort of thing and install a genuine urinal + cake in house bathroom
Aug 30 11:06:11 <CosmoHill> that saves water too
Aug 30 11:06:33 <niala> hello all, question: if i update (compile) qt 4.6 to 4.7 , I must update/compile qtcreator too ? (meego notebook, it's for play with lib-meegotouch)
Aug 30 11:07:00 <CosmoHill> I don;t think it would be a good idea to update Qt for meego
Aug 30 11:07:29 <CosmoHill> since Qt is classes as a core library and is used for compliancey
Aug 30 11:07:57 <lcuk> well hopefully meego will be having 4.7 anyway?
Aug 30 11:08:09 <lcuk> since thats also target for maemo
Aug 30 11:08:11 <CosmoHill> when is the next release, october?
Aug 30 11:08:28 <adeus> 4.7 comes from trunk
Aug 30 11:08:44 <lcuk> niala, which OS variant are you building this for
Aug 30 11:08:59 <niala> meego-notebook
Aug 30 11:09:10 <lcuk> /me nods
Aug 30 11:09:45 <lcuk> are you using qtcreator directly within the netbook image?
Aug 30 11:09:52 <niala> i ll take rpm from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/core/repos/source/
Aug 30 11:10:01 <lcuk> or is the version you have on your desktop just building to 4.6
Aug 30 11:10:12 <niala> yes 4.6
Aug 30 11:10:22 <lcuk> give it a try then
Aug 30 11:11:02 <lcuk> if qtcreator is only outputting 4.6 it will need rebuilding or grabbing later version
Aug 30 11:21:10 <niala> mm need somes pkgconfig dependency . ok I try git
Aug 30 11:25:38 <vlj> niala: qtcreator is "independant" from qt version you're using for developpement
Aug 30 11:26:29 <vlj> as long as you keep qt library that were used to build qtcreator
Aug 30 11:26:46 <vlj> however it is always good to have a uptodate qtcreator build
Aug 30 11:26:56 <vlj> (for instance to play with qml previewer)
Aug 30 11:30:10 <niala> ok
Aug 30 11:37:02 <niala> any special option to install qt4.7 in meego? prefix=/usr or anything else?
Aug 30 11:38:27 <fabo> niala: yum install or if you want to built yourself, take a look to the spec file
Aug 30 11:43:36 <niala> i think my notebook is compiling for a while.  time to clean my room
Aug 30 11:55:19 <niala> time ./configure    :16m54.090s
Aug 30 12:26:55 <ali1234> Stskeeps: i gave up on MMC booting. tried uploading a u-boot as kernel... got a watchdog reset
Aug 30 12:27:27 <ali1234> i'm going to try to make it barf on the framebuffer but i need to make a u-boot that doesn't init any hardware, cos it twiddles a lot of gpio
Aug 30 12:36:24 <Stskeeps> ali1234: u-boot as kernel would a cause a wd yeah, if i was to recommend something, try to develop it in qemu
Aug 30 12:36:33 <Stskeeps> as it will spit out serial output there
Aug 30 12:36:43 <ali1234> how similar is the hardware tho?
Aug 30 12:37:26 <Stskeeps> ali1234: the qemu-n900 should be fairly close
Aug 30 12:37:38 <ali1234> well i'll give it a go
Aug 30 12:37:54 <ali1234> i've pulled off more with less before though :)
Aug 30 12:38:02 <ali1234> wish i had jtag pins though
Aug 30 12:54:51 <dude_> hello
Aug 30 13:05:29 <Saviq> X-Fade, lbt: could I please have access to the community B
Aug 30 13:07:38 <Saviq> s/B/OBS/, I already added my info to the wiki page
Aug 30 13:40:11 <cmarcelo> hello. any meegotouch devs around? I'm using MTheme::style() to get resources from the theme and use them in QML. However, to have access to some CSS information (like, an ascendant selector, i.e. when I say: "MContentHeader MSpinnerStyle { /* ... */ }"), the only API in MTheme is to pass a widgetcontroller of the parent, however I do not use widget controllers at all.. at first, I thought of having a different version of MTheme::style()
Aug 30 13:40:11 <cmarcelo>  that accepted the ascendants class names instead of the pointer to the parent. would that makes sense? do you have any suggestions?
Aug 30 13:41:52 <cmarcelo> hello. any meegotouch devs around? I'm using MTheme::style() to get resources from the theme and use them in QML. However, to have access to some CSS information (like, an ascendant selector, i.e. when I say: "MContentHeader MSpinnerStyle { /* ... */ }"), the only API in MTheme is to pass a widgetcontroller of the parent, however I do not use widget controllers at all.. at first, I thought of having a different version of MTheme::style()
Aug 30 13:41:52 <cmarcelo>   that accepted the ascendants class names instead of the pointer to the parent. would an API like that make sense for meegotouch? do you have any suggestions?
Aug 30 13:51:29 <LoCusF_> cmarcelo: better check with #meego-dev for that
Aug 30 13:51:44 <cmarcelo> hmm thanks :-)
Aug 30 13:59:04 <drizztbsd> hi
Aug 30 13:59:22 <drizztbsd> is there any build of meego (not 1.0) for n900?
Aug 30 13:59:45 <Stskeeps> sure, http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php
Aug 30 13:59:47 <Stskeeps> grab latest weekly
Aug 30 14:01:01 <drizztbsd> Handset UX weekly 1.0.80.16.20100824.1 raw image?
Aug 30 14:01:21 <Stskeeps> right
Aug 30 14:51:45 <trem> fcrozat: \o/
Aug 30 14:52:05 * fcrozat hides
Aug 30 14:52:13 <trem> I can see you ;)
Aug 30 14:52:22 <trem> fcrozat: you works on meego ?
Aug 30 14:52:27 <trem> -s
Aug 30 14:52:35 <fcrozat> on SUSE MeeGo, yes ;)
Aug 30 14:53:04 <vlj> fcrozat: any release date for suse meego ?
Aug 30 14:53:22 <fcrozat> vlj: no, I'm not in the secrets of god ;)
Aug 30 14:53:28 <fcrozat> s/god/gods/ ;)
Aug 30 14:53:36 <vlj> unfortunatly =(
Aug 30 14:53:42 <trem> fcrozat: so, you don't work for N900 :(
Aug 30 14:53:53 <fcrozat> trem: no, only on netbooks
Aug 30 14:54:01 <trem> too bas
Aug 30 14:54:03 <trem> ad*
Aug 30 14:54:12 <trem> anyway, good luck
Aug 30 14:54:14 <fcrozat> thanks
Aug 30 14:57:13 <mmc> what's the difference between SW for "netbook" and "handset" targets?
Aug 30 14:57:34 <Stskeeps> one is a mix of clutter and gtk, one is qt based
Aug 30 14:57:34 <Stskeeps> :P
Aug 30 14:59:05 <slaine> Well, as a user. From a developer perspective, it should be all Qt
Aug 30 15:16:08 <sivang> Stskeeps: handset is all Qt you mean? :)
Aug 30 15:16:46 <lcuk> what is the ivi then
Aug 30 15:17:48 <CosmoHill> hey dazo
Aug 30 15:18:30 <CosmoHill> the job description I\,m reading is basically going "we require experience in several things you've not even heard of let alone done"
Aug 30 15:20:48 <lcuk> CosmoHill, i recall in early 2000s when microsoft were just transitioning to .net there were jobs posted around looking for 10 years of .net experience
Aug 30 15:21:13 <CosmoHill> does it count if you've done 4 hours and it felt like 10 years?
Aug 30 15:21:26 <ali1234> maybe it was a trick - anybody who actually claimed to have 10 years went directly in the bin, then they interviewed the rest
Aug 30 15:21:47 <lcuk> ali1234, nahh happens now
Aug 30 15:22:04 <lcuk> hmm that reminds me
Aug 30 15:22:39 <CosmoHill> if you say "job opotinuities on essex" I'll hug you
Aug 30 15:22:54 <lcuk> if i said that i woud sound like a loony
Aug 30 15:23:13 <lcuk> how do you even pronounce opotinuities
Aug 30 15:23:16 <CosmoHill> requirements: burbery cap and trackies
Aug 30 15:23:20 <ali1234> oh-poh-tin-witties
Aug 30 15:24:06 <lcuk> its a good job we have not got irc to text configured in most channels
Aug 30 15:24:45 <lcuk> i notice in those that it is, and you can hear playback on the video stream people tend to type more carefully
Aug 30 15:25:05 <lcuk> irc to speech *
Aug 30 15:25:26 <CosmoHill> people would think I'm sneezing a lot
Aug 30 15:25:50 <CosmoHill> would be funny to just put FORMATTING C DRIVE randomly in it
Aug 30 15:25:58 <lcuk> its fun sometimes, assign random synth voices to people
Aug 30 15:26:09 <ali1234> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8pYI0j4pJ4&feature=related (probably nsfw)
Aug 30 15:26:11 <lcuk> and give an audio stream in the topic
Aug 30 15:26:25 <CosmoHill> ali1234: it's a bank hoilday :)
Aug 30 15:27:17 <CosmoHill> dude wtf?
Aug 30 15:29:28 <lcuk> errr ali1234 yeah, but less of the ranting
Aug 30 15:29:28 <CosmoHill> ali1234: what game is that?
Aug 30 15:29:28 <lcuk> its in a chan with people activing a bit more civilized
Aug 30 15:29:41 <lcuk> thats not a game, thats nasas live mission cam :P
Aug 30 15:30:39 <CosmoHill> I just like the idea of a space dude going "fuuuuuuuuuuuuu" etc as he floats away
Aug 30 15:31:04 <ali1234> CosmoHill: moonbase alpha, an "educational" game from nasa
Aug 30 15:31:20 <CosmoHill> is it free?
Aug 30 15:31:24 <ali1234> yeah, it's on steam
Aug 30 15:31:43 <CosmoHill> ooooo
Aug 30 15:31:45 <CosmoHill> cool
Aug 30 15:32:24 <CosmoHill> can two people play together in a private server / lan?
Aug 30 15:32:33 <ali1234> no idea
Aug 30 15:33:03 <ali1234> supposedly the actual game kind of sucks
Aug 30 15:34:24 <lcuk> CosmoHill, most steam games operate on central server
Aug 30 15:34:44 <lcuk> i dont know of any that let you setup a completely standalone lan session?
Aug 30 15:35:02 <ali1234> all the source games have downloadable private servers
Aug 30 15:35:05 <lcuk> hel i think i even need to signin to steam to play portal single player offline stuff sometimes
Aug 30 15:35:28 * lcuk hasnt played recently tho so is happy to be wrong :P
Aug 30 15:35:29 <ali1234> you still connect through steam, but you can put a password on it etc
Aug 30 15:35:45 <lcuk> ali1234, thats not the same as a private lan game session
Aug 30 15:35:50 <ali1234> steam is just acting as server browser really
Aug 30 15:35:52 <CosmoHill> last time I played HL2 HDR demo was released
Aug 30 15:36:50 <mbatle> latest meego update from daily repository I got an error compiling an application, /usr/lib/gcc/i586-meego-linux/4.5.0/../../../libpackagekit-qt.so: undefined reference to `QMetaType::registerTypedef(char const*, int)'
Aug 30 15:36:57 <mbatle> any idea ?
Aug 30 15:37:27 <thiago> mbatle: you're running a Qt 4.7 app against Qt 4.6
Aug 30 15:38:27 <mbatle> meego comes with qt 4.7
Aug 30 15:38:37 <thiago> MeeGo 1.1 does
Aug 30 15:38:37 <mbatle> just linking with packagekit included in the repository
Aug 30 15:38:40 <mbatle> right
Aug 30 15:38:43 <mbatle> 1.1
Aug 30 15:38:45 <thiago> but check that it is so in /usr/lib
Aug 30 15:38:51 <thiago> run /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
Aug 30 15:39:52 <mbatle> This is the QtCore library version 4.7.0
Aug 30 15:40:11 <thiago> do you have any other libQtCore.so.4 on your system/
Aug 30 15:41:58 <mbatle> let me check, I dont think so, everything was running fine before, I just updated from the sdk version repos to daily repos
Aug 30 15:42:26 <mbatle> so I moved from 1.0 to 1.1 I guess
Aug 30 15:42:28 <thiago> also run: nm -D /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 | grep registerTypedef
Aug 30 15:42:53 <thiago> I have here on 1.1 beta (x86):
Aug 30 15:42:54 <thiago> 0016e430 T _ZN9QMetaType15registerTypedefEPKci
Aug 30 15:43:06 <mbatle> I just have /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4.7.0
Aug 30 15:44:05 <mbatle> thiago, weird, I don;t get any symbol found with that name
Aug 30 15:44:42 <thiago> weird
Aug 30 15:45:06 * thiago has checked Qt 4.7.0-rc1 source code and that symbols is there
Aug 30 15:45:26 <mbatle> I have installed Version: 4.7.0~prerelease-6.9
Aug 30 15:45:36 <thiago> unfortunately that doesn't mean anything
Aug 30 15:45:36 <mbatle> zypper says
Aug 30 15:45:47 <thiago> I need to know the Git SHA-1 or tag it was compiled from
Aug 30 15:45:53 <thiago> fabo: ping
Aug 30 15:46:25 <mbatle> I'll do zypper refresh and update again, maybe there are more updates now
Aug 30 15:46:40 <thiago> that symbol was introduced a long time ago...
Aug 30 15:47:03 <thiago> 03daf059        (Olivier Goffart        2010-03-02 11:03:12 +0100       117)    static int registerTypedef(const char *typeName, int aliasId);
Aug 30 15:47:07 <thiago> that's prior to beta 1
Aug 30 15:47:22 <mbatle> ok
Aug 30 15:49:09 * thiago suspects a patch reverting the feature
Aug 30 15:49:22 <thiago> I know the feature broke some code that used Qt internals....
Aug 30 15:49:55 <thiago> do you have the Qt headers? check if include/QtCore/qmetatype.h has the registerTypedef function
Aug 30 15:51:00 <ali1234> Stskeeps: got my u-boot to run in qemu: http://pastebin.com/cs63bH7V
Aug 30 15:52:57 <mbatle> thiago, function does not exist in the headers
Aug 30 15:53:20 <thiago> let me find you a counter-check
Aug 30 15:53:21 <thiago> hold on
Aug 30 15:53:57 <thiago> do you have include/QtCore/qelapsedtimer.h ?
Aug 30 15:54:08 <Stskeeps> ali1234: cool, progress :)
Aug 30 15:54:28 <mbatle> thiago, no, I haven't
Aug 30 15:54:51 <ali1234> it even correctly detected the ram size and lack of nand, that's encouraging
Aug 30 15:55:01 <mbatle> thiago, so I have to wait until packagekit gets recompiled on OBS ?
Aug 30 15:55:04 <Stskeeps> lack of nand? it should have nand
Aug 30 15:55:05 <thiago> mbatle: no
Aug 30 15:55:11 <thiago> mbatle: your Qt is too old
Aug 30 15:55:16 <ali1234> Stskeeps: onenand != nand
Aug 30 15:55:18 <Stskeeps> ah
Aug 30 15:55:19 <thiago> somehow you have a Qt 4.6 there
Aug 30 15:55:27 <ali1234> and this u-boot doesn't have onenand support
Aug 30 15:56:08 <thiago> or a very, very old Qt 4.7 snapshot
Aug 30 15:56:10 <mbatle> thiago, ok, it says 4.7, there is another sdk repo url for meego 1.1 ?
Aug 30 15:56:36 <mbatle> baseurl=http://download.meego.com/live/Tools:/SDK/Trunk/
Aug 30 15:56:42 <mbatle> this is the one I got
Aug 30 15:56:57 <mbatle> I will check in #meego-sdk
Aug 30 15:57:01 <mbatle> thanks thiago  :)
Aug 30 15:57:03 <thiago> get MeeGo trunk
Aug 30 15:57:05 <thiago> not SDK trunk
Aug 30 15:57:34 <mbatle> ok, I will try
Aug 30 16:12:47 <timoph> are you supposed to get some confirmation when reserving a room to the conference hotel?
Aug 30 16:15:14 <Stskeeps> i think i did
Aug 30 16:16:04 <Stskeeps> or not
Aug 30 16:16:17 <timoph> hmmh
Aug 30 16:17:36 <DawnFoster> maybe ping Amy & have her look into it?
Aug 30 16:17:43 <timoph> I made my reservation last Thursday and my network connection decided to drop just before seeing the last page so I don't if it got through :)
Aug 30 16:18:01 <DawnFoster> not sure if there is a delay on confirmation or a bug somewhere
Aug 30 16:18:13 <DawnFoster> but she should be able to tell you if the hotel received it
Aug 30 16:18:43 <timoph> Thanks. I'll email her
Aug 30 16:20:32 <ali1234> Stskeeps: got a u-boot shell now :)
Aug 30 16:20:52 <Stskeeps> ali1234: cool :)
Aug 30 16:21:41 <ali1234> how big is the onenand? 16mb?
Aug 30 16:21:47 <ali1234> i think it is working now
Aug 30 16:22:29 <ali1234> hmm nah that can't be right...
Aug 30 16:22:35 <sivang> when will conf. sponsorships announced?
Aug 30 16:22:38 <sivang> (btw)
Aug 30 16:24:15 <sivang> *be
Aug 30 16:45:38 <ali1234> Stskeeps: i'm tracking down the qemu framebuffer, i can wipe it with mw command :)
Aug 30 16:47:01 <Stskeeps> cool
Aug 30 16:48:41 <DawnFoster> sivang: are you talking about sponsored travel? or company sponsorship of the conference
Aug 30 17:17:08 <mmc> so, without Intel graphics, on a 64bit linux, I cannot run the SDK? (nor netbook nor handset).  Do I need to run a 32bit host os?
Aug 30 17:19:45 <CosmoHill> I think the SDK should run on a 64bit parent even tho it's 32bit
Aug 30 17:20:09 <CosmoHill> there is a post on the forums about using non intel graphics cards with Xpher
Aug 30 17:43:55 <mbatle>  mmc, I am running suse 11.3 64 bit and sdk netbook runs ok
Aug 30 18:01:07 <ali1234> Stskeeps: u-boot works on real n900 - i drew over the framebuffer with it
Aug 30 18:01:23 <ali1234> it still wd resets though, after about 10 seconds
Aug 30 18:02:10 <Stskeeps> ali1234: cool
Aug 30 18:02:19 <Stskeeps> ali1234: you can probably find a way to poke the watchdog
Aug 30 18:02:29 <ali1234> yeah i'll check trm, it should be easy
Aug 30 18:02:51 <Stskeeps> or enable r&d mode and no-omap-wd,no-ext-wd
Aug 30 18:03:13 <ali1234> the u-boot source claims to be handling the watchdog
Aug 30 18:03:21 <Stskeeps> there's two
Aug 30 18:03:29 <ali1234> three actually
Aug 30 18:03:38 <Stskeeps> three? :P
Aug 30 18:03:41 <Stskeeps> we only load two of them
Aug 30 18:03:49 <Stskeeps> well, ok, battery stuff is something else
Aug 30 18:04:02 <ali1234> There are 3 watch dogs WD1=Secure, WD2=MPU, WD3=IVA. WD1 is
Aug 30 18:04:26 <ali1234> ... WD3 should not be running and does not generate a PRCM reset.
Aug 30 18:04:38 <Stskeeps> well, i'm at a loss there :)
Aug 30 18:04:43 <Stskeeps> cool you're working on it though
Aug 30 18:04:57 <Stskeeps> was really astonished to see someone booting u-boot with qemu by accident
Aug 30 18:05:09 <ali1234> what makes you thin it was an accident?
Aug 30 18:05:35 <Stskeeps> he was trying to make it boot as a samsung device
Aug 30 18:05:38 <Stskeeps> i think
Aug 30 18:05:52 <ali1234> oh, as in, try to make it emulate the samsung phone?
Aug 30 18:06:11 <Stskeeps> yeah
Aug 30 18:06:17 <Stskeeps> cool discovery nonetheless
Aug 30 18:06:23 <ali1234> that u-boot is for omap3530 anyway...
Aug 30 18:06:42 <ali1234> i have made a new set of board defs for rx51 in the omap u-boot git
Aug 30 18:06:48 <ali1234> *based on
Aug 30 18:07:02 <ali1234> should be just as easy to port it to the other NIT as well
Aug 30 18:07:31 <Stskeeps> you're right, n8x0 should do the sae
Aug 30 18:07:33 <Stskeeps> same
Aug 30 18:08:13 <ali1234> in theory it should have mmc support but it doesn't seem to work in qemu... it just hangs
Aug 30 18:37:31 <ali1234> hmm i just noticed something on the schematic that i didn't see before
Aug 30 18:37:53 <ali1234> some sys_boot pins are pulled by the camera buttons
Aug 30 18:38:45 <ali1234> hmm... no they are not, nvm
Aug 30 18:40:14 <ali1234> ah... sys_boot5 *is* hardwared to the usb charging circuit
Aug 30 18:47:06 <ali1234> is "GAIA" the same as twl4030?
Aug 30 18:47:30 <ali1234> it is... so u-boot keypad driver should be able to work
Aug 30 19:33:03 <jedix> Has anyone managed to install from the iso in qemu?
Aug 30 20:39:22 <ali1234> Stskeeps: i got u-boot framebuffer working in qemu http://imagebin.org/112079
Aug 30 20:39:41 <ali1234> however it does not work in real hardware - it crashes in between drawing the funky pattern, and outputting the text
Aug 30 20:53:17 <vgrade> goes to get some sleep before the community meeting in the morning
Aug 30 20:58:40 * CosmoHill pokes DawnFoster 
Aug 30 20:58:52 <DawnFoster> hey CosmoHill
Aug 30 20:58:54 <CosmoHill> hey
Aug 30 20:59:09 <CosmoHill> if intel showed an advert on tv but the tv channel kept screwing up the advert
Aug 30 20:59:14 <CosmoHill> would you be the person to tell?
Aug 30 20:59:22 <CosmoHill> or would you know someone to tell?
Aug 30 20:59:35 <DawnFoster> honestly, I would have no idea
Aug 30 21:00:02 <DrHalan> hey, i am looking for a new cellphone and was wondering if there is one except the nokia n900 taht is capeable of MeeGo or will be at some point.
Aug 30 21:00:43 <CosmoHill> there's one other but it costs stupid money
Aug 30 21:01:02 <CosmoHill> http://www.aavamobile.com/
Aug 30 21:01:34 <DrHalan> isn't taht more a testing device?
Aug 30 21:02:12 <CosmoHill> yes
Aug 30 21:02:12 <thiago_home> DrHalan: there will be others, of course
Aug 30 21:02:24 <DawnFoster> the current aava devices are pre-production prototype systems for development only
Aug 30 21:02:36 <CosmoHill> DawnFoster: hmm, turns out they screw up their own adverts too
Aug 30 21:02:48 <thiago_home> aava sells to operators that want to customise their own devices
Aug 30 21:02:49 <DawnFoster> cosmohill: nice!
Aug 30 21:02:52 <thiago_home> at least, that's what their website says
Aug 30 21:04:06 <DrHalan> well my problem is that my current cellphone is broken and i need one in the next days/weeks. i thought the n900 was kindof fine but read taht the battery hasn't much power.
Aug 30 21:04:26 <thiago_home> it's rather good
Aug 30 21:04:29 <DrHalan> so i am thinking about either just buying it anyways or using android. but i am not really a fan of java nor google
Aug 30 21:04:43 <thiago_home> if I don't use the wifi all the time (which I do during weekdays), it lasts a couple of days
Aug 30 21:04:48 <thiago_home> 3 or 4
Aug 30 21:04:49 <CosmoHill> DawnFoster: so how are you?
Aug 30 21:04:50 <ali1234> hmm... r&d mode is really useful :)
Aug 30 21:06:11 <thiago_home> with the wifi turned on all the time, it lasts between one day and a half and two
Aug 30 21:06:26 <DawnFoster> cosmohill: really good. Things are going pretty well for me right now. You?
Aug 30 21:06:30 <thiago_home> if the wifi is in use all the time (always connected to email), then it's one day
Aug 30 21:06:39 <DrHalan> well one day is fine
Aug 30 21:06:50 <DrHalan> the test said "3 hours" if you are surfing /watching videos
Aug 30 21:06:58 <thiago_home> nah
Aug 30 21:07:06 <thiago_home> well, if you're watching videos, maybe
Aug 30 21:07:11 <CosmoHill> today has been a good day :) productive
Aug 30 21:07:18 <thiago_home> but you don't do that for 3 hours on a mobile
Aug 30 21:08:26 <DrHalan> heeh well but i can imagein that i browse websites for 3 hours on my way to work
Aug 30 21:08:36 <DrHalan> but mh i guess i'll think about just buying it
Aug 30 21:08:46 <DrHalan> is the keyboard usable?
Aug 30 21:09:34 <ali1234> DrHalan: the keyboard isn't the greatest but it is usable
Aug 30 21:11:42 <DrHalan> at least its physical
Aug 30 21:11:58 <DrHalan> the n9 looks really nice, sadly i can't wait that long
Aug 30 21:12:06 <lcukn900> some people think its amazing and can type rly fast on it
Aug 30 21:12:29 <ali1234> i can type faster on the kb of my old wizard... the keys are much bigger and it has 4 rows
Aug 30 21:13:01 * CosmoHill thinks it's imaginary
Aug 30 21:13:27 <DrHalan> wondering how the german layout is with umlauts etc..
Aug 30 21:13:57 <CosmoHill> DawnFoster: I go back to uni in 3 weeks :o
Aug 30 21:14:24 <DawnFoster> cosmoHill: wow, that seems so soon - the summer just flew by
Aug 30 21:14:39 <CosmoHill> my uni goes back about a month earlier than most
Aug 30 21:14:50 <thiago_home> DrHalan: three keys assigned to them
Aug 30 21:14:55 <ali1234> DrHalan: i heard some of the international layouts are terrible - can't remember which ones though
Aug 30 21:14:55 <thiago_home> DrHalan: next to l and p
Aug 30 21:15:02 <thiago_home> DrHalan: you mean on the N900?
Aug 30 21:15:38 <ali1234> can't remember which one this is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26328476@N02/4117627018/
Aug 30 21:15:46 <ali1234> but look what they did to the arrow keys :(
Aug 30 21:16:00 <thiago_home> DrHalan: the directional keys are reduced from 4 to 2
Aug 30 21:16:11 <thiago_home> I only use the English layout
Aug 30 21:16:33 <thiago_home> umlaut and å are accessible via the symbol menu
Aug 30 21:16:57 <CosmoHill> ali1234: how are you meant to play a game with that? what if you want to move diagonally
Aug 30 21:17:00 <thiago_home> unfortunately, that means æ and ø are out
Aug 30 21:17:18 <thiago_home> CosmoHill: use the accelerometre :-)
Aug 30 21:17:21 <ali1234> CosmoHill: yeah well, pressing up + left is impossible anyway on this kb
Aug 30 21:17:46 <CosmoHill> hush you
Aug 30 21:17:53 <ali1234> unless you have matchsticks for fingers
Aug 30 21:18:16 <ali1234> but typing ip addresses is the worst
Aug 30 21:18:19 <CosmoHill> I (like most apple users) am impressed that I can do more than one thing at once on my phone
Aug 30 21:18:51 <TheSystem> hi,
Aug 30 21:19:07 <ali1234> so here's an interesting fact: qemu-n900 has a 32 bit framebuffer but the real n900 is 16 bit
Aug 30 21:19:22 <ali1234> so i need to figure out how to detect i am running in the emulator :)
Aug 30 21:19:25 <CosmoHill> hmm
Aug 30 21:20:32 <TheSystem> Does someone know the commandline in the bootmenue for booting in "shell-mode". I am using meego for netbooks.
Aug 30 21:20:56 <_wolf_> co I man..
Aug 30 21:21:08 <TheSystem> the kernel crashes, because it doesn't like my nvidia card...
Aug 30 21:30:16 <DrHalan> how much did oyu guys pay for the n900?
Aug 30 21:32:13 <CosmoHill> depends how much it takes to get the owner drunk
Aug 30 22:00:47 <ali1234> well i found the problem... attempting to write to the serial port hangs the real N900
Aug 30 22:13:23 <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
Aug 30 22:31:11 <ali1234> got it :)
Aug 30 22:31:54 <ali1234> i need to turn off nand support, it doesn't play nice with the real n900
Aug 30 22:46:57 <drizztbsd> uhm n900 does not want to start
Aug 30 22:47:20 <CosmoHill> does it do anything?
Aug 30 22:48:00 <TheSystem> have you tried the russian hammer?
Aug 30 22:48:29 <ScottishDuck> install gentoo
Aug 30 23:22:16 <miticofioz> hi!
Aug 30 23:22:36 <miticofioz> anyone got broadcom wireless work under meego-ivi?
Aug 30 23:23:15 <miticofioz> i followed the slaine's guide but with no luck...
Aug 30 23:24:12 <miticofioz> when i try to load the wl.ko module it says :  invalid module format..
Aug 30 23:24:21 <miticofioz> :(
Aug 31 00:27:37 <CosmoHill> cyas
Aug 31 01:02:12 <ali1234> ok that's the annoying nand problem fixed
Aug 31 01:16:30 <Saviq> X-Fade, lbt: hi guys, read that I need to contact you to get into the community OBS?
Aug 31 01:21:06 <ali1234> Saviq: they are still setting it up
Aug 31 01:21:27 <Saviq> ali1234: yes I know, but I could help, at least in testing
Aug 31 01:21:42 <Saviq> and the wiki page said to contact them, so... doing it ;)
Aug 31 01:24:55 <ali1234> Saviq: probably better to ask in the daytime (european daytime that is)
Aug 31 01:25:17 <Saviq> will do
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