**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 09 02:59:57 2010 Sep 09 03:56:39 Hi Sep 09 04:24:37 is there any ETA on when we might see some MeeGo powered smartphones for public consumption? Sep 09 04:25:29 I think there's nothing official, but the rumor is mid Nov, isn't it? Sep 09 04:26:23 * Kubuntiac wanders off to spread some more wild disinformation... Sep 09 04:28:17 lol Sep 09 04:28:32 nobody knows, not even the people working on it, and they are not allowed to tell you :) Sep 09 04:28:53 I love my Android handset but I'm extremely excited about the idea of a traditional GNU/Linux environment in my pocket :) Sep 09 04:29:24 One person I know (who's *not* working on it, but works closely with Nokia) was hinting very strongly at Nov. Sep 09 04:29:38 @ maxamillion - ditto :) Sep 09 04:30:31 I help out with the FOSS QT / KDE painting app Krita... would *love* to see MeeGo's netbook multitouch + Krita MeeGo... *drool* Sep 09 04:30:45 I'll be sure to keep my eye out for it ... only think I hope for is that there is a gmail client of sorts ... and (sadly) I need exchange support for my $dayjob Sep 09 04:31:13 Kubuntiac: that'd be cool :) Sep 09 04:31:20 re: Gmail, couldn't you just access it via pop / imap? Sep 09 04:31:37 Kubuntiac: yeah, but I like the archive feature Sep 09 04:31:50 Ahhh... OK. Sep 09 04:32:19 Isn't "Archive" moving it to a standard IMAP folder or something like that? Sep 09 04:32:32 Kubuntiac: it might be, I honestly haven't looked into it that much Sep 09 04:32:38 Kubuntiac: I might have to do that Sep 09 04:32:58 I seem to recall accessing Gmail by IMAP and seeing it create a bunch of folders for tags 'n' stuff Sep 09 04:33:06 Kubuntiac: I also like the live sync, but that might still be possible with Push IMAP Sep 09 04:33:27 Only one way to find out for sure... ;P Sep 09 04:34:04 yeah, I'll try setting it up tomorrow at the office Sep 09 04:34:23 Cool. If you see me around let me know how it goes... Sep 09 04:35:15 Kubuntiac: will do, I'll probably start hanging out here ... just need to add it to my auto join list in my irssi config Sep 09 04:35:46 Just did myself. Sep 09 04:35:59 :) Sep 09 04:36:08 I'm sure we're going to see some interesting action between now and Christmas... Sep 09 04:36:15 I do hope so Sep 09 04:36:33 Yeah, well. Honestly if we don't... they're in serious trouble. :/ Sep 09 04:36:35 it will likely end up being my x-mas present to myself if it rolls out for Verizon Sep 09 04:36:47 but I worry it will be GSM only Sep 09 04:37:03 I'm looking at one for my wife... if they're decent. Sep 09 04:37:38 Yeah, I really don't know about the whole GSM thing Sep 09 04:38:12 I really don't know that much at all, other than that I love how Nokia's been playing with the FOSS scene Sep 09 04:38:36 and that's how I want *my* phone / Netbook to run (ok, and some of the videos are pretty sexy ;P) Sep 09 04:38:58 lol Sep 09 04:39:14 I really like the UI so far for the MeeGo handset and MeeGo tablet Sep 09 04:39:41 I think I'll likely stick with a more traditional desktop environment for my netbook though ... just habit Sep 09 04:40:41 Dual boot, baby. :) I'll probably have a Linux Distro + MeeGo Sep 09 04:41:04 If only GRUB didn't look so **** ugly :( Sep 09 04:41:19 Kubuntiac: could just grab a MeeGo adaptation like Fedora and/or OpenSuSE and just login to MeeGo or $DE_of_choice Sep 09 04:41:58 Yeah... if I liked either of those distros... (thus beginneth the flame war!) Sep 09 04:42:02 errr... MeeGo UX (iirc that's what they are calling it) Sep 09 04:42:11 Kubuntiac: naw, I'm far far past distro wars Sep 09 04:42:23 I think you're one of the few... Sep 09 04:42:38 Kubuntiac: I've spent enough time on enough distros to have found what I liked but respect the others for what they are and realize that there are more than one for a reason Sep 09 04:43:46 Kubuntiac: I'm a Fedora contributor so I'm obviously biased towards Fedora in preference and recommendations but if someone rolls up showing their OpenSuse, Debian, Gentoo, or Ubuntu pride ... its not my place to cut them down for their exercise of freedom and choice Sep 09 04:43:48 Yes, you mailed me the address Sep 09 04:43:50 ww Sep 09 04:44:30 Absolutely. I like different ones for different things. I love some of the polish Kubuntu is doing, but dang, if makepkg on Arch isn't awesome Sep 09 04:44:36 or $other_distro (gotta make sure I don't offend anyone ... >.> ) Sep 09 04:44:52 Fedora's pretty dang nice for artwork and trailblazing cool tech Sep 09 04:44:52 Kubuntiac: Arch is an extremely fun distro Sep 09 04:45:27 Kubuntiac: yeah, the design team is top notch and the tech that ends up in there is a lot of fun ... a QA wild time but fun Sep 09 04:45:27 Yeah, I love it. Pitty that Chakra has forked away from it Sep 09 04:45:35 oh did it? Sep 09 04:45:40 I didn't know they forked Sep 09 04:45:51 Yeah. They're producing their own distro now Sep 09 04:45:55 :( Sep 09 04:46:02 oh well, maybe good will come of it Sep 09 04:46:03 Ashok / Phoix depending on which KDE version you want Sep 09 04:46:25 well, I'm going to take off ... it was nice talking with you, I'll see you around I'm sure :) Sep 09 04:46:40 later! Sep 09 07:59:47 meepmeep Sep 09 08:09:04 Hi Sep 09 08:39:33 Roger Wang >> Are you here on IRC ? Sep 09 09:21:55 <_macros> Hi all, this is my first time on #meego, so pleas be patient if my questions sound (and are) silly :| Sep 09 09:22:42 <_macros> I would like to find more details about "Personal Services" as named in http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture Sep 09 09:22:52 <_macros> Is there a roadmap for them ? Sep 09 09:23:05 <_macros> is there alrady a plan on what to integrate in MeeGo ? Sep 09 09:23:19 <_macros> I did not manage to find the answers myself :( Sep 09 09:28:09 hi, is it possible to convert the meego sdk image to run in virtualbox on a non vt system? Sep 09 09:29:19 vt ? Sep 09 09:29:41 you mean virtualisation instruction ? Sep 09 09:29:56 y, my core2duo is an older one Sep 09 09:30:03 I dont think so Sep 09 09:30:22 vt allows access to sse3 instruction from a virtualised solution Sep 09 09:30:27 and meego needs sse3 Sep 09 09:30:28 you might have luck i guess when compiling the whole meego system yourself :) Sep 09 09:30:44 but you can install meego on your system Sep 09 09:30:46 (and omitting sse3 there) Sep 09 09:32:19 piggz: there is qtcreator in meego Sep 09 09:32:53 yeah....i do a lot of other dev stuff for koffice in kdevelop, so i couldnt just trash my system :) Sep 09 09:33:21 you can install meego on another partition Sep 09 09:33:28 yeah, thats an option Sep 09 09:34:13 is the sdk image, basically just a running meego install? Sep 09 09:35:23 moreless Sep 09 09:35:29 it is a chrooted image Sep 09 09:35:36 running with a xephyr instance Sep 09 09:41:35 oh yaah, i got the xephr instance running by following the instructions to mount the image locally Sep 09 11:03:34 who feels yum isnt as cool as apt? Sep 09 11:05:32 Me Sep 09 11:05:43 you can argue packaging systems forever if you feel like :) Sep 09 11:05:57 * theplic argues forever Sep 09 11:06:07 I dont find them very "cool", what I care is that stuff works Sep 09 11:06:33 i care too Sep 09 11:07:37 theplic, are you doing some kind of survey? Sep 09 11:08:16 wish i was Sep 09 11:08:52 yum rocks. Sep 09 11:10:18 i never should have asked the question Sep 09 11:10:21 * theplic repents Sep 09 11:10:47 I prefer zypper Sep 09 11:11:15 (opensuse user here) Sep 09 11:12:00 theplic, +1. raising controversible questions has a name :> Sep 09 11:12:10 so stop thinking about packaging managers, but think about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpvlTVgeivU Sep 09 11:12:57 as long as you love star wars at least Sep 09 11:24:02 wonder if we'll see anything cool next week at the IDF Sep 09 11:25:19 heya slaine Sep 09 11:25:20 let's hope so Sep 09 11:25:31 th0br0: hey, how's it going ? Sep 09 11:25:54 pretty well, and you? Sep 09 11:27:53 th0br0: busy has hell these last few months Sep 09 11:27:59 no time to play with meego :( Sep 09 11:28:13 yeah, similar here. Sep 09 11:30:39 is there any file sharing service to host custom meego image ? Sep 09 11:30:45 à la Mega Upload Sep 09 11:30:55 but more "linux targeted" Sep 09 11:31:02 torrents should be desperately available Sep 09 11:31:14 but you must have some server to feed them Sep 09 11:31:34 in order to "start" the torrent Sep 09 11:31:35 people are the server Sep 09 11:32:39 but I must have my computer online to share my image Sep 09 11:34:43 does somone develop for MeeGo on archlinux here ? Sep 09 11:35:53 you can develop for Meego on Meego Sep 09 11:36:13 in my opinion it is the best solution as you immediatly see how it works Sep 09 11:36:19 with glx acceleration Sep 09 11:38:02 on any Desktop PC ? Sep 09 11:38:17 not any desktop pc Sep 09 11:38:25 you need sse 3 Sep 09 11:38:37 + intel gfx Sep 09 11:38:45 (or unofficially nvidia one) Sep 09 11:42:08 vlj: Instruction Set ExtensionsSSE4.1, SSE4.2 Sep 09 11:43:17 so it is ok Sep 09 11:43:24 your graphic card is ? Sep 09 11:43:28 lspci | grep -Rni vga Sep 09 11:43:29 18:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NVIDIA NVS 3100M (rev a2) Sep 09 11:43:37 so it should works Sep 09 11:43:56 k Sep 09 11:44:23 as long as you follow this guide :) Sep 09 11:44:24 http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vljn Sep 09 11:44:25 btw, it is a laptop Sep 09 11:49:58 DawnFoster: ping (when you wake up) Sep 09 11:52:37 thiago: probably not for another hour or 2 Sep 09 11:53:03 unless she's on the west coast Sep 09 11:53:39 she's on the west coast Sep 09 11:53:57 usr/share/sample-media/Videos/big-buck-bunny.ogv ?? LOL Sep 09 11:54:02 just some questions on how to access the admin interface of conference.meego.com Sep 09 11:54:25 I just did a post to ilug on the conference Sep 09 11:54:37 try and get some of the locals awake Sep 09 11:55:42 * thiago starts reviewing the submissions Sep 09 11:58:36 Is qgil east or west coast ? I've a feeling it's east Sep 09 11:59:03 s/east/west/ Sep 09 11:59:05 slaine meant: Is qgil west or west coast ? I've a feeling it's east Sep 09 11:59:12 lokl Sep 09 11:59:14 gah Sep 09 11:59:21 west Sep 09 11:59:24 mountain view, iirc Sep 09 11:59:30 yeah Sep 09 11:59:33 yes, MV Sep 09 11:59:48 we've a while yet then, they're UTC -10 or something Sep 09 12:00:03 more like -8 Sep 09 12:00:20 yeah Sep 09 12:00:22 5am Sep 09 12:00:37 just about Sep 09 12:00:44 yes Sep 09 12:10:35 * CosmoHill is watching Pinky and the Brain Sep 09 12:45:50 * thiago does a first-pass review of all submissions by their summaries Sep 09 12:50:01 cool Sep 09 12:50:12 * CosmoHill still tries to work out if he should buy the IA-64 system Sep 09 12:53:54 CosmoHill: IA-64, are you serious ? Sep 09 12:54:07 yes Sep 09 12:54:17 wow Sep 09 12:54:20 IA64 == failed Sep 09 12:54:28 but you're reactions are worrying me Sep 09 12:56:19 ahhhh my elbow Sep 09 12:58:04 CosmoHill, only if you need heating for your room or something :) Sep 09 12:58:11 hey guys Sep 09 12:58:17 this image here for n900 tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php Sep 09 12:58:44 epx: well winter is comming Sep 09 12:58:55 i know the instructions link for installing it on the memcard, but i am looking for installing it on device, cuz i dont have memcard Sep 09 12:59:05 plz gimme a link thanks for that Sep 09 13:00:01 winter here was hard, I missed my Athlons this year. Sep 09 13:00:08 those damn macs, so cold. Sep 09 13:01:12 apple cold Sep 09 13:01:22 literary and metaphorically Sep 09 13:01:52 *apple are cold Sep 09 13:04:11 it does look like people are jumping out of the IA-64 boat Sep 09 13:08:11 how do I configure USB networking on meego? Sep 09 13:30:07 mbatle: hello... any news? Sep 09 13:30:39 luist, not yet, I was fixing other stuff, but maybe I can take a look today Sep 09 13:39:54 heyo :) folks how are you all here ? Sep 09 13:40:34 hey Sep 09 13:40:45 hey is meego now workin on n900 ? :) Sep 09 13:40:52 (by saying hello doesn't mean I'll answer your questions) Sep 09 13:41:10 depends what you define as working Sep 09 13:41:14 I don't think you can make phone calls yet Sep 09 13:41:18 CosmoHill: i didnt asked from u Sep 09 13:41:57 hey DawnFoster Sep 09 13:42:04 DawnFoster: IA-64 = lol ? Sep 09 13:42:12 i asked in channel that means from everyone in this channel Sep 09 13:42:12 hey CosmoHill Sep 09 13:42:32 CosmoHill: no comment :) Sep 09 13:43:07 I think I won't buy that computer then Sep 09 13:43:35 eh Sep 09 13:46:54 h4xordood: as ScottishDuck said, define working Sep 09 13:47:25 CosmoHill: why would you buy an IA-64? Sep 09 13:47:33 for CLFS dev work Sep 09 13:47:34 we have three in the office... Sep 09 13:47:45 DawnFoster: how do I access the admin interface in the conference website? Sep 09 13:47:58 * mmeeks wonders if Anas is around, Sep 09 13:48:17 if I had one I would try and port the current CLFS book to that arch Sep 09 13:48:33 thiago: when you are logged in, do you see a little wrench in the upper left corner? Sep 09 13:48:41 If not, we'll need to give you access Sep 09 13:48:48 no wrench Sep 09 13:48:53 anyway, I don't need it now Sep 09 13:49:11 I was just wondering where I can find the session IDs that came from carsten's spreadsheet Sep 09 13:49:19 ok, cool. I'll talk to Mike to make sure that the selection committee has access Sep 09 13:49:37 ah, yeah. the session IDs are part of the admin export, I think Sep 09 13:49:46 * thiago is doing a first pass on summaries only Sep 09 13:50:01 if you didn't write a good summary, you don't get a good mark from me... Sep 09 13:50:36 thiago: text file ids should be == session id too Sep 09 13:51:00 hmm? Sep 09 13:51:03 hmm Sep 09 13:51:23 thaigo: try it now Sep 09 13:51:27 log out & back in Sep 09 13:51:34 see if you get the wrench Sep 09 13:52:01 yeah, I see the wrench now Sep 09 13:52:02 thanks Sep 09 13:52:35 * thiago is now almost half-way through the proposals Sep 09 13:52:36 Stskeeps: :) heya Sep 09 13:52:38 back to work Sep 09 13:52:48 thiago: do you have access to the session report? Sep 09 13:53:52 what session report? Sep 09 13:54:01 * thiago doesn't know if he has access if he doesn't know what it is Sep 09 13:54:17 sorry - when you click on the wrench Sep 09 13:54:29 under conference Sep 09 13:54:36 you should see "session report" Sep 09 13:54:49 Assuming I gave you access to the right thing :) Sep 09 13:55:11 I do see that Sep 09 13:55:17 ok, cool Sep 09 13:55:32 I'll make sure mmeeks has access to the same into Sep 09 13:55:55 * Stskeeps should spend some time reviewing tonight just to switch his mind into some other mode than constant meetings.. Sep 09 13:56:04 Stskeeps: can i install meego now ;P Sep 09 13:56:05 ? Sep 09 13:56:05 thiago: I helped a first year burn his code to disc and in the process had a copy of it on my laptop Sep 09 13:56:10 h4xordood_: sure, you might not enjoy it Sep 09 13:56:11 :P Sep 09 13:56:16 its more than a week :) Sep 09 13:56:25 later that night I read this code going "that's wrong, that's wrong, that doesn't even make sense" etc Sep 09 13:56:30 DawnFoster: I was missing the mechanics of the web stuff FWIW. Sep 09 13:56:59 mmeeks: OK, you have access to the session reports now, too Sep 09 13:58:53 FWIW? Sep 09 13:59:00 'for what it's worth' Sep 09 13:59:04 ah okay Sep 09 14:00:33 I'm off to uni, getting kicked out of my lab :( Sep 09 14:00:34 cyas Sep 09 14:30:04 /op mikeleib Sep 09 14:33:54 not working Sep 09 14:33:55 :P Sep 09 14:37:38 He should have tried to authenticate with nickserv Sep 09 14:37:41 :P Sep 09 15:27:24 lbt: ping Sep 09 15:27:47 pong Sep 09 15:28:14 thiago: how may I be of service this fine afternoon? Sep 09 15:28:16 lbt: are http://conference2010.meego.com/session/boss-meego-process-automation-how-it-works and http://conference2010.meego.com/session/automating-business-processes-meego-product-makers-using-boss the same/ Sep 09 15:28:20 ? Sep 09 15:28:30 looking Sep 09 15:29:06 same presenters in both and same subject... Sep 09 15:29:07 no... one is for commercial vendors... STB makers.... Sep 09 15:29:19 the other is more about the code and design Sep 09 15:29:31 which one is which? Sep 09 15:29:39 summary tells you Sep 09 15:30:22 Automating Business Processes is intended to be about business management Sep 09 15:31:04 How it works is supposed to be about AMQP, json, concurrency, python... Sep 09 15:32:29 thiago: does that make things look different? Sep 09 15:33:15 I'm still lost... Sep 09 15:33:40 one is for Dilbert... the other is for the PHB Sep 09 15:34:29 ok Sep 09 15:34:37 heh.... Sep 09 15:34:44 we think both are needed Sep 09 15:34:58 we'll see Sep 09 15:35:02 lol Dilbert reference makes situations immediately obvious Sep 09 15:35:25 thiago: maybe have a chat with Ramez and Jorma at Nokia too... Sep 09 15:36:01 don't know who those are Sep 09 15:36:13 thanks anyway Sep 09 15:36:19 Jorma is "the first vendor" Sep 09 15:37:02 and we discussed needing something about *delivering* MeeGo that is relevant to "vendor PHBs" in the audience Sep 09 15:37:26 there are 27 people with first name Jorma in Nokia Sep 09 15:37:31 and 1 with last name Jorma Sep 09 15:37:42 I only know 1... you have too many freinds Sep 09 15:38:03 I don't know any of them. I just searched the LDAP server Sep 09 15:38:03 jorma virkkunen Sep 09 15:38:28 9 thiagos... Sep 09 15:39:52 * thiago wonders how many Juhas and Mikas Sep 09 15:40:05 and variants of Mika like Miika, Mikka and Miikka Sep 09 15:40:18 and Mikko Sep 09 15:40:25 that's a different name... Sep 09 15:40:36 so's Mikka and Mika Sep 09 15:40:52 but pronounced almost the same Sep 09 15:40:55 lies Sep 09 15:40:58 ALL LIES Sep 09 15:41:01 wtf Mikka Sep 09 15:41:08 first time I heard of that Sep 09 15:41:08 Nothing in finnish is pronounced the same! Sep 09 15:41:24 0 mikkas Sep 09 15:41:49 ah.. Mikko ? Sep 09 15:41:51 a bunch on the other three spellings Sep 09 15:42:04 yes, lots of mikko too Sep 09 15:42:36 * lbt just lols at LoCusF_ being outraged at Mikka .... but not Mika, Miika or Miikka Sep 09 15:42:58 heheh Sep 09 15:42:59 Yeah coz mikka is just wrong Sep 09 15:43:01 :) Sep 09 15:43:48 it's jp not fi ;p Sep 09 15:43:59 * lbt spots a niche in new names.... Sep 09 15:44:01 * thiago stops counting Davids at 100, surname starting with L Sep 09 15:44:32 need to remember how to make ldapsearch work with the NOE server Sep 09 15:44:33 * lbt may be a non-conformist .... clearly my parents weren't Sep 09 15:44:40 :) Sep 09 15:44:55 thiago: thiago_home ? Sep 09 15:44:59 djszapi: yes? Sep 09 15:45:03 Unfortunately finnish can't do Miiika or miiikka, but I think you could do that (from a pronunciation point of view) in jp though ;p Sep 09 15:45:22 three vowels in a row? Sep 09 15:45:37 thiago: I just wanted to identify you whether you are that :) Sep 09 15:45:39 * thiago has only seen that in Portuguese and that forms a diphthong followed by hiatus Sep 09 15:45:49 Total: Men less than 21, Women less than 15, Total: less than 36 Sep 09 15:46:03 or hiatus followed by diphthong, like my surname Sep 09 15:46:18 http://verkkopalvelut.vrk.fi/Nimipalvelu/default.asp?L=3 Sep 09 15:46:23 "knock yourself out" Sep 09 15:46:24 thiago, sure, it's just the length of the vowel.. but finn's brains can't time it beyond single or double ;p Sep 09 15:46:49 ShadowJK: my brain doesn't time it at all Sep 09 15:46:56 it's like the French 'e' Sep 09 15:47:14 I hear it, I can repeat it, but 10 seconds later I will have forgotten how the word is pronounced Sep 09 15:47:31 Myrtti: :) Sep 09 15:48:01 * thiago goes back to the sessions Sep 09 15:48:03 almost done... Sep 09 15:48:10 statistics ♥ Sep 09 15:48:20 Myrtti: isn't that adding up to 'less than 35' though? Sep 09 15:48:43 Then you have k vs kk.. people will tell you that's also just the length of the letter, though in reality I think the most common way to actually render kk in speech is like k followed by a very short pause Sep 09 15:49:06 DocScrutinizer: read from somewhere that the numbers aren't exact if names are rare Sep 09 15:49:28 Can finnish people do double tongueing on musical instruments (flute, sax...) better than the rest of us? Sep 09 15:49:44 oh, so there could be 20.8 men plus 14.9 wemon? Sep 09 15:49:50 women erks Sep 09 15:49:53 * thiago notes a talk submitted by qgil but where the only presenter is DawnFoster Sep 09 15:49:53 I should learn finnish and see if my sax playing improves Sep 09 15:50:03 DawnFoster: did you know quim volunteered you for a talk? :-) Sep 09 15:50:06 thiago! ha! Sep 09 15:50:09 What's double tongueing? Sep 09 15:50:09 if you get me a paid ticket i will help improve the numbers :D Sep 09 15:50:22 we worked together on it and planned to jointly present it Sep 09 15:50:38 ShadowJK: playing two same notes without slurring them Sep 09 15:50:42 then he got sucked into marketing stuff & we decided to do separate presentation Sep 09 15:50:44 usually very fast Sep 09 15:51:50 How do you do that, like a rolling R into the flute? Sep 09 15:53:03 Hi Sep 09 15:53:18 anybody facing this problem while launching an application on handset release Sep 09 15:53:19 libstdc++45 Sep 09 15:53:43 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found Sep 09 15:53:51 DawnFoster: do you know if rusty is on vacation? Sep 09 15:54:08 lokesh: that means the application was compiled with a newer version of libstdc++ than what you have Sep 09 15:54:19 lokesh: upgrade libstdc++ or rebuild the app with the proper toolchain Sep 09 15:54:20 thiago: hmmm, no idea Sep 09 15:54:42 ShadowJK: say t t t .... and then double: t k t k ..... then triple : t k t , t k t Sep 09 15:54:45 when i try upgrading using zypper Sep 09 15:54:55 it says i already have the latest version installed Sep 09 15:57:36 DawnFoster: never mind, he's just replied to the email Sep 09 15:58:01 thiago: ok, coo Sep 09 15:58:09 s/coo/cool Sep 09 15:58:38 wow, I am not awake yet - need more tea Sep 09 15:58:59 * thiago realises the time at the west coast Sep 09 15:59:04 you woke up early today... Sep 09 15:59:10 or a pigeon.... then you could pretend to be talking to that.... Sep 09 15:59:43 I usually start work around 6am Sep 09 15:59:54 more overlap with all of you nice people :) Sep 09 16:00:00 * thiago is happily asleep, usually, at 6 am Sep 09 16:00:05 depends on the season Sep 09 16:00:31 during Winter, I manage to sleep until 9; during Summer, I get woken up at 5 Sep 09 16:01:55 got it .. my repos were not up to date Sep 09 16:07:28 luist, I am not able to reproduce with latest trunk Sep 09 16:39:08 * CosmoHill returns Sep 09 16:52:39 did someone ping me? Sep 09 17:01:05 wb CosmoHill. why were you thrown out of your lab? Sep 09 17:01:12 oh my...I added an event to Meego Community and the date is wrong! Sep 09 17:01:22 any idea who could correct the mistake Sep 09 17:01:34 DawnFoster: ^^ Sep 09 17:02:28 meego community what when where Sep 09 17:03:15 kyb3r: let me know what we need to change Sep 09 17:03:18 hey th0br0 Sep 09 17:03:19 I can tweak it Sep 09 17:03:22 thanks auke Sep 09 17:03:35 DawnFoster: np Sep 09 17:03:37 it's a start of the new semester so I need to move my stuff out Sep 09 17:03:50 only reason it's a problem is because of the lack of network sockets Sep 09 17:03:56 and cos I can't be int here with someone else has it booked Sep 09 17:04:03 okei: DawnFoster the event name "Meego Network Tampere Initial Meeting" date should be 21 Sep 2010 Sep 09 17:05:21 kyb3R: OK, it's updated - give it a quick double check to make sure Sep 09 17:05:26 DawnFoster: nice, thanks :) Sep 09 17:05:45 it's ok now Sep 09 17:12:55 CosmoHill: ah ok :) Sep 09 17:13:02 CosmoHill: so you're not getting a new labß Sep 09 17:43:51 th0br0: 302 is being converted to something but we don't know what Sep 09 17:44:03 if it's a general access lab then I can use it whenever Sep 09 17:44:10 (I will shout at anyone using it) Sep 09 17:44:15 *my cluster Sep 09 17:45:55 mlfoster: out of curiousity, when in the process would you do a string freeze? Sep 09 17:46:03 ie, a reasonable estimate on how many months before release Sep 09 17:46:16 CosmoHill: :) Sep 09 17:46:26 if its' not, I have issues Sep 09 17:48:12 Stskeepz: I think a string freeze should happen at alpha freeze Sep 09 17:49:35 as in feature freeze? Sep 09 17:49:57 I think so Sep 09 17:50:40 makes sense - instead of 'approved by l10n' i would recommend that you enter into the CCB process instead, where architecture/marketing/release engineering/etc agree on exceptions to the feature freeze Sep 09 17:50:45 (personal opinion) Sep 09 17:51:08 so l10n would be a part of approving exceptions Sep 09 17:51:16 choir, meat priest Sep 09 17:51:19 meet* Sep 09 17:51:21 lol Sep 09 17:52:01 hehe :P Sep 09 17:53:26 it was just a matter of phrasing in the proposal :) Sep 09 17:57:38 awesome Sep 09 17:57:43 a bug that only occurs in my VM Sep 09 18:21:39 * ZogG xmms2> Funkadelic - Maggot Brain ["Maggot Brain (Canada)" 1971] Sep 09 18:23:34 ZogG: we don't need to know... Sep 09 18:40:11 diegobz: can you poke glezos for me and/or send me the place where the tx cli is hosted so I can package it for meego? Sep 09 18:42:54 lbt: poke you around? Sep 09 18:47:32 auke: http://bitbucket.org/indifex/transifex-client/ Sep 09 18:47:48 diegobz: tyty Sep 09 18:48:10 diegobz: no tarballs around anywhere? Sep 09 18:49:49 auke: only in pypi I guess Sep 09 18:50:41 auke: it wasn't releases yet AFAIK Sep 09 18:51:54