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Oct 11 03:52:33 <Mat_Matan> morning
Oct 11 06:18:56 <Myrtti> moin
Oct 11 06:23:09 <timoph> forum dead?
Oct 11 06:23:27 <Stskeeps> a tad
Oct 11 06:23:36 <Myrtti> looks like it
Oct 11 08:44:00 <puneet> how to open an application from command line in same zone.I mean avoiding creating a new zone
Oct 11 08:57:42 <puneet> how to open multiple applications in same zone using command line
Oct 11 09:04:35 <Stskeeps> morn slaine
Oct 11 09:06:37 <slaine> Morning Stskeeps
Oct 11 09:18:56 <mira|AO> good morning
Oct 11 09:19:10 <mira|AO> who is in charge of setting up the garage, or rather, how do I contact them?
Oct 11 10:19:54 <niadh> Does anyone know how to install perl modules in meego?
Oct 11 10:35:15 <Charubala> Hi All. I am charubala. Could some please tell how to test DUN from GUI in meego ?
Oct 11 10:38:17 <Myrtti> could you please remember to tell that you're trying to use DUN via bluetooth from MeeGo netbook UX?
Oct 11 10:38:30 <Myrtti> (if I remember correctly=
Oct 11 10:42:36 <Charubala1920_> Hi Myrtti. Sorry for the delayed reply. My net connection got disconnected
Oct 11 10:43:10 <Charubala1920_> I got DUN working from command line. Now i want to test it from GUI. Does meego have something similar to Blueman in Ubuntu
Oct 11 10:43:10 <Charubala1920_> ?
Oct 11 12:11:02 <huzefaf> jhkjhjjh
Oct 11 13:37:45 <mira|AO> wow, a lot of traffic ;-)
Oct 11 13:38:03 * GAN900 honks and passes mira|AO.
Oct 11 13:38:27 <Stskeeps> mira|AO: busy working ;)
Oct 11 13:38:45 * mira|AO is also At wOrk, which is why I’m here…
Oct 11 13:39:14 <mira|AO> whatever, let me repeat… 11:17⎜<mira|AO:#meego> who is in charge of setting up the garage, or rather, how do I contact them?
Oct 11 13:39:40 <Stskeeps> well, what do you mean by the garage?
Oct 11 13:40:03 <mira|AO> garage.{maemo.org,meego.com}
Oct 11 13:40:17 <mira|AO> the former is already set up, the latter is being set up apparently
Oct 11 13:40:19 <Stskeeps> there won't be something like garage.maemo.org in meego, we'll have the community OBS
Oct 11 13:40:29 <mira|AO> mh.
Oct 11 13:40:31 <mira|AO> with a forge?
Oct 11 13:40:32 <Stskeeps> there's plenty of other good services for code hosting, so
Oct 11 13:40:39 <Stskeeps> gitorious, etc
Oct 11 13:40:56 <mira|AO> because we saw the maemo used an ancient version of gforge, and we’re trying to get all forges together at fusionforge
Oct 11 13:41:23 <mira|AO> (hence the name)
Oct 11 16:39:17 <TSCHAK2> Running MeeGo Core, with LinuxMCE Orbiter on an Archos 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9_UJbhollc
Oct 11 16:40:00 * CosmoHill gives TSCHAK2 a cookie
Oct 11 16:42:14 <CosmoHill> i like that flash when it's ready
Oct 11 16:59:56 <niadh> Hey does anyone know how to install perl modules? Am trying to install MIME::Base64 and Authen::SASL
Oct 11 17:00:08 <CosmoHill> something to do with cpan
Oct 11 17:00:08 <alterego> Does MeeGo have some kind of generic virtual keyboard?
Oct 11 17:01:05 <niadh> Yeah problem with cpan is it wont build the modules claiming MakeModule couldnt be found, and that is in ExtUtility, so i tried to build that, and it wouldn't make
Oct 11 17:02:46 <niadh> Is there some program in meego for automating the building of perl modules?
Oct 11 17:03:13 <niadh> So that it pulls in dependendies and compiles them in the right order?
Oct 11 17:03:54 <niadh> Am needing the modules cos am tryin to integrate gmail into git
Oct 11 17:05:31 <bash`> hi all!
Oct 11 17:06:20 <bash`> I follow the wiki guide to install meego on my N900 using a MicroSD, but...it does not start!
Oct 11 17:07:01 <CosmoHill> well that's the last time I open the freenode channel list
Oct 11 17:07:48 <bash`> when I turn on the phone I see the console and the messages...but nothing else
Oct 11 17:08:07 <CosmoHill> what phone do you have?
Oct 11 17:08:21 <bash`> n900
Oct 11 17:08:27 <CosmoHill> what version of meego do you have?
Oct 11 17:08:29 <bash`> [19:04] <bash`> I follow the wiki guide to install meego on my N900 using a MicroSD, but...it does not start!
Oct 11 17:08:31 <bash`> 1.0.99
Oct 11 17:08:33 <bash`> :)
Oct 11 17:08:43 <bash`> meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.99.1.20101008.1-mmcblk0p.raw
Oct 11 17:09:04 <CosmoHill> hmm, werid, I was expecting you to say a old version
Oct 11 17:10:22 <bash`> CosmoHill: I copied the raw image using dd directly on my phone, then I flashed the phone as wiki says
Oct 11 17:10:50 <bash`> s/on my phone/on the microsd into my phone
Oct 11 17:11:07 <CosmoHill> dammited I typed "bash" instead of the hostname of the computer I was trying to log into
Oct 11 17:11:18 <bash`> :)
Oct 11 17:12:29 <CosmoHill> try login in with "meego" "meego"
Oct 11 17:12:35 <CosmoHill> then type "startx" and see what happens
Oct 11 17:12:41 <bash`> uhm...I cannot login
Oct 11 17:12:59 <bash`> after the login screen the display is black
Oct 11 17:13:02 <CosmoHill> oh
Oct 11 17:13:11 <CosmoHill> can you switch to another VT?
Oct 11 17:13:31 <bash`> neither...I cannot do nothing
Oct 11 17:13:42 <bash`> I can do nothing*
Oct 11 17:13:43 <CosmoHill> can you boot it into init3?
Oct 11 17:13:43 <Stskeeps> bash`: did you use the same kernel as in the image location?
Oct 11 17:13:48 <bash`> how?
Oct 11 17:14:15 <Stskeeps> as in the one together with the image
Oct 11 17:14:27 <CosmoHill> I have no idea how to do that with an n900
Oct 11 17:14:31 <bash`> eego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.99.1.20101008.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-8.7-n900m
Oct 11 17:14:48 <Stskeeps> bash`: right, and that version matches with the image you dl'ed?
Oct 11 17:14:50 <Stskeeps> and dd'ed
Oct 11 17:14:56 <bash`> yes
Oct 11 17:15:00 <bash`> meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.99.1.20101008.1-mmcblk0p.raw
Oct 11 17:15:07 <Stskeeps> ok
Oct 11 17:15:17 <Stskeeps> can you tell how you made it boot?
Oct 11 17:15:40 <bash`> sudo flasher-3.5 -l -k meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.99.1.20101008.1-vmlinuz-2.6.35.3-8.7-n900 -b
Oct 11 17:15:54 <bash`> then I remove the usb cable and it starts
Oct 11 17:17:09 <bash`> (the only way to turn off the phone is to remove the battery)
Oct 11 17:17:11 <Stskeeps> looks correct
Oct 11 17:17:19 <Stskeeps> so
Oct 11 17:17:24 <Stskeeps> what you should expect to see
Oct 11 17:17:37 <Stskeeps> terminal messages, then black screen, then it launches
Oct 11 17:20:26 <bash`> Stskeeps: sorry, I am here
Oct 11 17:20:48 <bash`> I am dd'ing again the image
Oct 11 17:21:04 <Stskeeps> [19:12] <Stskeeps> so
Oct 11 17:21:04 <Stskeeps> [19:12] <Stskeeps> what you should expect to see
Oct 11 17:21:04 <Stskeeps> [19:12] <Stskeeps> terminal messages, then black screen, then it launches
Oct 11 17:21:28 <bash`> it stops to black screen
Oct 11 17:22:25 <Stskeeps> that's a good sign, keep it going..
Oct 11 17:22:25 <Stskeeps> :P
Oct 11 17:23:18 <bash`> Stskeeps: I am using the last image, right?
Oct 11 17:23:42 <bash`> of the 1.1.x series...
Oct 11 17:24:41 <Stskeeps> that's what will become 1.1
Oct 11 17:24:47 <bash`> yes
Oct 11 17:24:51 <bash`> when it will be out?
Oct 11 17:24:58 <Stskeeps> end of month
Oct 11 17:33:08 <wildc4rd> evenin' all
Oct 11 17:35:26 <bash`> Stskeeps: yeah...I get a white screen now
Oct 11 17:35:31 <Stskeeps> progress
Oct 11 17:35:39 <bash`> waiting
Oct 11 17:35:52 <bash`> I workssssssss
Oct 11 17:35:54 <bash`> it*
Oct 11 17:35:57 <Stskeeps> you must have a really slow microsd
Oct 11 17:35:57 <bash`> *.*
Oct 11 17:36:03 <bash`> 16gb
Oct 11 17:36:07 <Stskeeps> what class?
Oct 11 17:36:17 <bash`> I do not know
Oct 11 17:36:28 <bash`> can I copy meego on the hard disk?
Oct 11 17:36:36 <Stskeeps> no spinning parts in a n900
Oct 11 17:36:56 <Stskeeps> and not yet, but it seems like something we'll soon do
Oct 11 17:37:13 <bash`> I hope so
Oct 11 17:37:19 <bash`> looks nice
Oct 11 17:37:24 <bash`> but is slow
Oct 11 17:37:30 <bash`> due to my MMC
Oct 11 17:37:34 <Stskeeps> well, sortof
Oct 11 17:37:46 <Stskeeps> the biggest problem is actually the gfx drivers
Oct 11 17:38:16 <Stskeeps> saw the video with the accelerated drivers?
Oct 11 17:38:28 <bash`> uhm no
Oct 11 17:38:34 <Stskeeps> sec
Oct 11 17:38:49 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: Seen MohammadAG51's comments about vsync on Maemo and X crashiness? Similar issue?
Oct 11 17:39:15 <Stskeeps> Jaffa: i don't know of anyone trying them on maemo
Oct 11 17:39:38 <Stskeeps> bash`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtMLs3j09U&feature=player_embedded
Oct 11 17:40:04 <bash`> ok, I have to go now...see you later
Oct 11 17:40:09 <bash`> thank you man
Oct 11 17:41:01 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-10-11.log.html#t2010-10-11T20:06:41
Oct 11 17:41:17 <bash`> Stskeeps: should I install the 1.1.80?
Oct 11 17:41:23 <Stskeeps> bash`: i wouldn't bother atm
Oct 11 17:41:53 <Stskeeps> Jaffa: i think he means meego
Oct 11 17:42:10 <bash`> ok, see you later. bye!
Oct 11 17:42:11 <Jaffa> Stskeeps: ah, maybe
Oct 11 17:42:35 <Xisdibik> Stskeeps: why wouldn't you bother?
Oct 11 17:42:48 <TSCHAKeee2> any intel experts in here on the US15? I'd like to try and see what I can do to bring down power usage when the display turns of
Oct 11 17:43:00 <TSCHAKeee2> f
Oct 11 17:43:03 <Stskeeps> Xisdibik: the changes to a new release are really hefty and broken occasionally
Oct 11 17:43:23 <Xisdibik> Stskeeps: ah ok
Oct 11 18:46:11 <lokesh> how to ignore the rpmlint check on OBS ?
Oct 11 18:47:03 <lokesh> Stskeeps : u around ?
Oct 11 18:48:02 <Stskeeps> sorry, the power just went completely out in my apartment
Oct 11 18:48:08 <Stskeeps> hang on a bit :)
Oct 11 18:48:36 <Stskeeps> (god bless n900s and mobile connections)
Oct 11 18:49:18 <achipa> stskeeps, how many times did we tell you that an in-house server farm is not a good idea power-wise ?
Oct 11 18:49:47 <Stskeeps> achipa: not enough ;p
Oct 11 18:50:52 * achipa recalls his youth when he had 4 hours of electricity a day
Oct 11 18:52:15 <Stskeeps> NishanthMenon: well, after it brought my laptop into swapping hell it replicated the bug :)
Oct 11 18:52:30 <NishanthMenon> Stecchino, wow ok..
Oct 11 18:52:41 * Stskeeps currently has 1gb of swap in use or something
Oct 11 18:52:41 <NishanthMenon> Sorry meant to Stskeeps
Oct 11 18:52:49 * Stskeeps wonders what goes wrong
Oct 11 18:52:53 * NishanthMenon wonders what he screwed up
Oct 11 18:53:17 <Stskeeps> so i'll just go ahead and reboot my computer since everything in my house shut down a sec ago without any circuit breakers going off..
Oct 11 18:53:26 <Stskeeps> (back now)
Oct 11 18:53:30 <Stskeeps> good time for a reboot
Oct 11 18:53:31 <Stskeeps> :P
Oct 11 18:55:35 <lokesh> ok.. I found a way. Google is great,
Oct 11 18:55:36 <achipa> I hear that a *lot* lately :P
Oct 11 18:55:37 <lokesh> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_checks#Supressing_False_Positives
Oct 11 19:01:15 <lokesh> now I can go and have a sound sleep. My packages will now not fail because of this stupid RPMLINT :) Its a real pain to wait for hours and see that build failed because of this.
Oct 11 19:01:37 <lokesh> cyu guys tomorrow. Adios.
Oct 11 19:01:40 <Stskeeps> nite
Oct 11 19:03:33 <josu> I try to install meego on my n900 without luck. When I have flashed the phone then in "terminal" I get a lot of "no such file" messages.. It is not normal... right?
Oct 11 19:09:49 <ni1s> josu, yeah I get that too
Oct 11 19:10:23 <josu> any tip what I am doing wrong?
Oct 11 19:10:41 <ni1s> I havent investigated futher
Oct 11 19:11:04 <josu> ok
Oct 11 19:12:53 <TSCHAKeee2> wow, it's been a while since i've had to bit-bang the legacy backlight brightness register
Oct 11 20:10:52 <DimslerTablet> so does meego have a ux for the n900 yet?
Oct 11 20:16:30 <ni1s> i cant get it to boot even
Oct 11 20:20:52 <josu> I try now that 1.1.80.0 image
Oct 11 20:26:07 <josu> jej it works \o/
Oct 11 20:29:56 <huzefaf> can anyone please tell me how to activate account for access to the build service server? I am new to this IRC channel and would like to be a part of community OBS
Oct 11 20:31:02 <ni1s> josu, 1.1.80.0.20101001.1 or 1.1.80.0.20101005.1 ?
Oct 11 20:31:24 <josu> 1.1.80.0.20101005
Oct 11 20:32:25 <pupnik> huzefaf: huzefaf if you get nothing here, try the forums or mailing lists of course
Oct 11 20:45:28 * qgil just created http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/University_Collaboration
Oct 11 20:46:05 <ni1s> josu, will try
Oct 11 20:53:20 <arfoll> has anyone managed to install smeegol?
Oct 11 20:55:27 <ni1s> what's smeegol?
Oct 11 20:57:46 <arfoll> nils, opensuse + meego
Oct 11 20:58:37 <ni1s> ah
Oct 11 20:59:01 <arfoll> they have a hybrid iso image but once written to usb stick there seems to be no way to install it
Oct 11 20:59:29 <arfoll> it suits me well because it has networkmanager so works on university WIFI but has the nice meego UX
Oct 11 21:00:04 <DimslerTablet> does 1.1 on the n900 have a browser?
Oct 11 21:00:18 * CosmoHill is trying to prove that Fedora has a big repo
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