**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 19 02:59:57 2010
Dec 19 03:13:46 <hiptobecubic> ugh
Dec 19 03:14:01 <hiptobecubic> even after doing this wireless thing, nothing is happening
Dec 19 03:14:40 <hiptobecubic> no wlan dev is created, dmesg is empty, nothing.
Dec 19 03:15:00 <hiptobecubic> The only thing that looks remotely promising is that the 'broadcom' module loads at all and depends on libphy
Dec 19 03:34:52 <hiptobecubic> YES!
Dec 19 03:35:18 <hiptobecubic> The module is called 'wl' not 'broadcom', by the way. Extremely misleading. You might want to tell the author of that page to add that little bit of info.
Dec 19 03:36:01 <MohammadAG> hasn't that always been known? :P
Dec 19 03:36:11 * MohammadAG has it on his laptop, and it's crap tbh
Dec 19 03:36:26 <MohammadAG> Been looking for a card replacement because of it
Dec 19 03:37:20 <ali1234> the "good" driver is actually called b43
Dec 19 03:37:33 <ali1234> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#How_do_I_use_b43.2BAC8-b43legacy_driver_instead_of_broadcom-wl.3F
Dec 19 03:38:48 <ali1234> actually that whole document is probably good reading if you haven't
Dec 19 03:38:56 <ali1234> no idea if b43 supports your card though
Dec 19 03:40:07 <MohammadAG> I think it crashes with BCM43224s and multiple cores
Dec 19 03:40:25 <ali1234> damn wireless, why does it have to suck so bad?
Dec 19 03:40:32 <hiptobecubic> wl is working right now, reluctant to touch it
Dec 19 03:41:10 <MohammadAG> ali1234, wireless doesn't suck, broadcom does
Dec 19 03:41:36 <ali1234> no, it's wireless in general
Dec 19 03:41:50 <ali1234> atheros is no better when it comes to multiple half working drivers
Dec 19 03:42:04 <hiptobecubic> ali1234, my ath5k has been pretty friendly
Dec 19 03:42:09 <ali1234> intel cards are just about passable
Dec 19 03:42:24 <MohammadAG> my 2200BG was awesome
Dec 19 03:42:25 <hiptobecubic> is there a real reason to try to get b43 working if wl is working already?
Dec 19 03:42:38 <ali1234> no, not unless you want AP mode or something
Dec 19 03:42:51 <MohammadAG> hiptobecubic, not sure about MeeGo, but the drivers on Ubuntu give me 2MBps speeds
Dec 19 03:42:59 <MohammadAG> and that's with wireless N
Dec 19 03:43:14 <MohammadAG> (I get 150 on Windows, but I hate it)
Dec 19 03:43:37 <hiptobecubic> Well our link here is oh... about..... 50KB/s max, so i'm not that concerned righ tnow
Dec 19 03:45:58 * MohammadAG tests b43.ko
Dec 19 03:46:00 <ali1234> i have a broadcom card that drops out if you use a certain channel... in windows. it works fine in linux
Dec 19 03:48:17 <MohammadAG> hiptobecubic, actually, on an HP mini, you might lose BT with b43.ko
Dec 19 03:48:20 <MohammadAG> so stick to wl
Dec 19 03:48:43 <hiptobecubic> do these even have bt? i feel ilke this doesn't
Dec 19 03:49:14 <hiptobecubic> ah yes, 'option'
Dec 19 03:51:36 <hiptobecubic> uhh.... well it was looking awesome, then it dropped me to a tty and stopped responding to anything
Dec 19 03:52:44 <hiptobecubic> bah, have to play with it more next time. bed for me
Dec 19 03:52:51 <hiptobecubic> Thanks for you help thus far guys
Dec 19 03:55:19 <MohammadAG> ali1234, meh, b43 is unsupported on my card
Dec 19 03:55:30 <MohammadAG> and this http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211 has more cons than pros
Dec 19 06:19:15 <Termana> morning
Dec 19 09:27:22 <lardman> morning
Dec 19 09:28:28 <Stskeeps> morn lardman
Dec 19 09:28:40 <lardman> hi Stskeeps
Dec 19 09:31:20 <Venemo> good morning guys
Dec 19 09:32:05 <lardman> hi Venemo
Dec 19 09:32:08 <dm8tbr> lo
Dec 19 09:32:23 * lardman looks at the thermometer and sees a vaguely chilly -5C outside
Dec 19 09:32:46 <Venemo> so lardman, it's warm there compared to here :)
Dec 19 09:34:09 <lardman> well seems pretty cold to me, but yeah warm compared to some places ;)
Dec 19 09:34:52 <Venemo> it is -10°C here outside
Dec 19 09:36:42 <lardman> hmm, I wonder if it's bad form for a QTimer callback to be the same function that started the timer
Dec 19 09:39:47 <dm8tbr> -14°C here
Dec 19 09:42:34 <lcuk> lardman, scope is everything
Dec 19 09:43:02 <lcuk> morning btw \o
Dec 19 09:43:23 <lardman> hi lcuk
Dec 19 09:43:37 <lardman> I was just trying to avoid needing to add another function to my class
Dec 19 09:43:47 <Bostik> *brrrr* -10°C here
Dec 19 09:44:06 <lardman> ok I give up, -5C is quite warm! :)
Dec 19 09:44:09 <lcuk> lardman, is the code on git, or can be pastebinned?
Dec 19 09:44:15 <lcuk> lol yeah -5 is "brisk"
Dec 19 09:44:32 <Bostik> and by my standards, everything below +15° is cold, and nothing below +25°C is warm
Dec 19 09:44:36 <lardman> lcuk: it's in svn, mBarcode, just implementing decoding from a saved image, one of your requests ;)
Dec 19 09:46:11 <lcuk> oooh :D
Dec 19 09:46:34 <yasir> Hello Everyone
Dec 19 09:47:22 <lcuk> google is a bit crap,  searching for mbarcode on domain garage.maemo.org only brings up the project on the second page
Dec 19 09:47:39 <lardman> maemo-barcode
Dec 19 09:47:44 <lardman> ?
Dec 19 09:47:58 <yasir> I am new to meego, I want to compile meego kernel, where can I get source code for meego Kernel?
Dec 19 09:48:00 <lcuk> lardman, yeah
Dec 19 09:48:07 <lcuk> https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=maemo-barcode
Dec 19 09:48:14 <lcuk> which file specifically
Dec 19 09:48:56 <lardman> resultswindow.cpp has the code to call analyseImage() on the image read from file
Dec 19 09:49:00 <lcuk> yasir, have you read the developer documentation
Dec 19 09:49:14 <lardman> but I'm moving that stuff to the barcodedetector class to hide the workings
Dec 19 09:49:15 <lcuk> because one question I have to ask: which kernel specifically
Dec 19 09:49:23 <yasir> Icuk: at meego wiki site
Dec 19 09:49:25 <yasir> ?
Dec 19 09:49:47 <lardman> I think I'll skip calling the same function from the timer, and write a modified analyseImage() fn that just checks for results from the decoder threads
Dec 19 09:50:03 <lcuk> yasir, its Lcuk and theres a lot of files on meego wiki
Dec 19 09:50:24 <lcuk> lardman, twisty passages within the svn
Dec 19 09:50:30 <lcuk> which branch is considered live
Dec 19 09:51:34 <lcuk> https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/mbarcode-qt/resultswindow.cpp?view=markup&root=maemo-barcode&pathrev=474
Dec 19 09:51:48 <lardman> trunk
Dec 19 09:51:57 <yasir> Lcuk: I check wiki pages about code contribution,
Dec 19 09:52:52 <yasir> Lcuk: did not find any thing about kernel source
Dec 19 09:53:11 <lcuk> lardman, lines 50ish are the only ones with qtimer in
Dec 19 09:53:25 <yasir> Lcuk: I can check it again if there is information about it there
Dec 19 09:55:09 <lcuk> try http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source
Dec 19 09:55:30 <lcuk> and plenty of information on internet searches for things like "meego kernel source" etc
Dec 19 09:57:49 <yasir> Lcuk: I tried it, But I  will try once again today, thanks
Dec 19 10:11:28 <yasir> Lcuk: I tried http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source yesterday also with git but it did not work, reason was i did not added my user name and email in git global config, i did it now and it worked,this like is good for any beginner like me  http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source/commit/f79781a30ae533e75fc0964c57a2ed356e02dad0#comment_34432
Dec 19 10:12:01 <Venemo> where is the packaging data dor MeeGo handset applications?
Dec 19 10:12:18 <Venemo> for some components there is a debian folder, but I couldn't find any .spec files
Dec 19 10:17:03 <shikamaru> moin
Dec 19 10:17:13 <CosmoHill> hi
Dec 19 10:17:17 <Venemo> hello
Dec 19 10:23:42 <lardman> lcuk: wip
Dec 19 10:24:01 <lardman> lcuk: nearly done, once I can get my callback slot passed as a parameter
Dec 19 10:27:40 <lcuk> yasir, its not a blog you just commented on, its the readme file for the linux kernel branch used on meego, wtf does it have to do with the stuff in your comment?
Dec 19 10:28:23 <lcuk> lardman, :d
Dec 19 10:28:25 <Stskeeps> yasir: get the source rpm and build it in an OBS :)
Dec 19 10:28:37 <Stskeeps> yasir: the kernel-source git is broken
Dec 19 10:29:31 <shikamaru> just wanted to know, I didn’t find that in the wiki, are there some junior jobs for new contributors ?
Dec 19 10:29:53 <shikamaru> I just created an account on the bugzilla and subscribed to the dev mailing list
Dec 19 10:30:01 <Stskeeps> shikamaru: what are you interested in? i guess you have meego-n900 as focus?
Dec 19 10:30:14 <shikamaru> Stskeeps: yep
Dec 19 10:30:20 <Stskeeps> shikamaru: join #meego-arm is a good start :)
Dec 19 10:30:26 <Stskeeps> we work in the open, so
Dec 19 10:30:32 <lcuk> shikamaru, most valuable help is to install system, look around, notice a "pet bug" and try to track down and identify cause and make a plan to fix it.
Dec 19 10:31:09 <shikamaru> lcuk: ok :)
Dec 19 10:54:45 <yasir> Stskeeps : Ohh I did not know that, I will try with rpm
Dec 19 10:55:43 * lardman forgot to put his n900 on charge last night :(
Dec 19 10:56:00 <yasir> Lcuk: the link has nothing to do with my comment. I just want to share, I am sorry if I did something I am not supposed to
Dec 19 10:57:21 <lcuk> yasir, not at all, just not used to getting comments on commits like that
Dec 19 11:17:50 <sivang> morning
Dec 19 11:38:30 <range>  /act
Dec 19 14:51:11 <lbt> hidave: sure... what are you planning to do on the OBS?
Dec 19 14:59:02 <hidave> hi lbt, I hope I can do some contribution to meego
Dec 19 14:59:40 <lbt> hidave:  sure - so just checking it's opensource
Dec 19 14:59:58 <hidave> Yes, of course
Dec 19 15:00:00 <lbt> and that you're not planning on a complete rebuild or anything ;)
Dec 19 15:00:20 <lbt> heh... you'd be surprised ... hence the quick sanity check
Dec 19 15:00:49 <hidave> Currently I have an beagle board to run the meego 1.1
Dec 19 15:00:59 <lbt> anyhow... done
Dec 19 15:01:21 <hidave> thanks
Dec 19 17:27:26 <julienf> good afternoon
Dec 19 17:27:53 <julienf> am looking for someone I met in Dublin who's been working on getting MeeGo running on the Dell Streak
Dec 19 17:28:01 <julienf> Anyone who would know who that is? :D
Dec 19 17:28:59 <lcuk> hmmm julienf
Dec 19 17:47:34 <Stskeeps> julienf: -> smoku
Dec 19 19:42:41 <xexnaor> hello guys, having problem with dualbooting meego on n900, i have a 8 gb micro sd i have just copied raw image file, it say fat load failed unnown parittion 3 and it loads meamo
Dec 19 19:43:22 <jonnor> xexnaor: how did you copy the raw image file?
Dec 19 19:43:36 <xexnaor> dd bs=4096 if=rawimg of=/dev/sdb
Dec 19 19:43:58 <xexnaor> after coping if i check f disk there are two partitions
Dec 19 19:44:31 <jonnor> sounds correct
Dec 19 19:46:02 <xexnaor> /dev/sdd1               1       24415     1562500   83  Linux
Dec 19 19:46:04 <xexnaor> /dev/sdd2           24417       28320      249856   83  Linux
Dec 19 19:46:07 <xexnaor> f disk output
Dec 19 19:48:02 <xexnaor> any idea for dualboot fail ?
Dec 19 19:49:41 <ali1234> you don't have a partition 3
Dec 19 19:50:58 <ali1234> see http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/u-boot/ under "Make a MeeGo SD card"
Dec 19 19:55:01 <xexnaor> ali1234: i know i dont have
Dec 19 19:55:56 <ali1234> i know you know you don't have
Dec 19 19:56:47 <xexnaor> any one here who did dualboot n900
Dec 19 19:57:19 <ali1234> (19:50:57) ali1234: see http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/maemo/u-boot/ under "Make a MeeGo SD card"
Dec 19 20:14:23 <xexnaor> i am following instruction at http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot
Dec 19 20:14:51 <xexnaor> but after copying raw img file to sd card, uboot doesnt load meego
Dec 19 20:15:54 <xexnaor> do i have to flash meego kernel vmlinuz to device
Dec 19 20:16:01 <xexnaor> or load **
Dec 19 20:16:16 <xexnaor> raw image has its kernel in it
Dec 19 20:38:06 <nazgee> hi all, I am new to meego, so help with some basic topics is needed here. What is the "correct" way to develop a Qt/QML applicaiotn for meego? Do I still have to crosscompile Qt myself, or can I use something that is "out there" waiting to be used?
Dec 19 20:38:58 <nazgee> crosscompiling it manually would be a pain in the ..., as it would be nice to match what I am crosscompiling to what actually is there on beagleboard image
Dec 19 20:39:19 <Stskeeps> one way is just to grab qt sdk and work there first :)
Dec 19 20:39:26 <Stskeeps> and worry about porting later
Dec 19 20:39:44 <Stskeeps> there is a meego sdk that does building for you, too
Dec 19 20:40:20 <nazgee> and what if porting is the only thing that is left? app is tested and ready to deploy
Dec 19 20:40:22 <jonnor> nazgee: Qt is in the Meego core, as an app developer you should be able to just use that
Dec 19 20:40:34 <Stskeeps> check out the sdk :)
Dec 19 20:40:59 <nazgee> ok, I'll have a look @ SDK first
Dec 19 20:41:21 * araujo right now just use plain Qt SDK from main box and then compile in the n900
Dec 19 20:41:24 <nazgee> as it seems something I've missed (and should have used in the firs place)
Dec 19 20:56:28 <nazgee> btw- does anyone here has an idea how to solve garbled fonts problem on beagleboard? bug was filed few months ago, there were some attempts to correct it, but still no luck? anyone managed to solved it on their own?
Dec 19 20:56:48 <Stskeeps> we're trying to root cause it still
Dec 19 20:57:05 <Stskeeps> beagle has a workaround by using n900 drivers
Dec 19 20:57:21 <nazgee> hm. are these downloadable somewhere?
Dec 19 21:02:35 <Stskeeps> nazgee: new beagleboard from scratch page uses them
Dec 19 21:05:08 <Bostik> which reminds me, do any of you happen to know a reasonably priced small monitor (10" or less) that takes in DVI or HDMI? I need to get one if I'm getting couple of pandas...
Dec 19 21:22:15 <merlin_1991> oh netsplit is over
Dec 20 01:28:46 <david__> f
Dec 20 01:32:00 <david__> is there anybody help me?  I would like to make a obs build server. currently I have installed openSUSE  on my computer. I think OBS is running well. but how do i build meego in my local obs server??
Dec 20 01:32:25 <david__> could you let me know about it?
Dec 20 01:41:43 <smoku> david__, are you really want to build whole meego?   it will take ages...
Dec 20 02:54:49 <hlzxy> I also want something about the source code ,as I downloaded  all source code , what I could do for it
Dec 20 02:56:37 <hlzxy> anybody can tell me something about it
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