**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 20 02:59:58 2010 Dec 20 03:00:48 tell you what? Dec 20 03:01:40 if you need someone to tell you about the source code, you might not really be in a position to actually need the source code :p Dec 20 03:13:24 em,maybe, I load the source code first,and want to make them ,but failed, and OBS appeared to me ,of course I use it build the rpm of the meego system ,and so I want to know the role of those source code Dec 20 03:18:19 as I see ,build the meego system with obs is a only way ,I think some of those code can not be built to rpm because of no spec file, so how we modify them and put it into the image Dec 20 04:01:06 anyone know when MeeGo 1.2 will be released? Dec 20 04:07:42 comawhite - its expected to come out in April Dec 20 04:08:29 that's a long time :( Dec 20 04:09:22 * comawhite wonders when the first meego phone comes out Dec 20 04:09:39 comawhite - meego follows a 6 monthly release cycle Dec 20 04:10:08 right Dec 20 04:23:16 comawhite - u may want to check this http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2 Dec 20 04:40:23 Aparna, thank you Dec 20 04:40:45 how can I install Meego SDK on a non-n00buntu distro like Gentoo? Dec 20 04:56:45 comawhite: i'd probably get alien or something and retrieve the packages Dec 20 04:57:24 (actually, i'd use rpm2cpio, but whatever) Dec 20 04:58:21 timeless_mbp, is there any link on how to do this? Dec 20 04:58:33 how to use rpm2cpio? Dec 20 04:58:54 comawhite: i'd probably get alien or something and retrieve the packages Dec 20 04:59:09 lemme see if I have rpm2cpio in the repo Dec 20 04:59:39 I don't have rpm2cpio but I do have rpm2targz Dec 20 05:01:12 is there an connmand induced udev event I could hook in to load my wifi driver module? Dec 20 05:01:41 can't you just use modprobe? Dec 20 05:01:48 timeless_mbp:rpm2cpio **.rpm | cpio -ivdm you can exact rpm file google please, it would tell u Dec 20 05:02:17 kismeter, I think you meant me, thanks Dec 20 05:02:44 comawhite, and where should I put it? rc.sysinit does not feel right Dec 20 05:02:51 nfc Dec 20 05:06:20 comawhite: rpm2targz would also work, slighly less efficient, but whatever Dec 20 05:06:28 and put it in home/needswork/ Dec 20 05:06:42 you'll need to fix the init scripts for your distro anyway Dec 20 05:06:48 thank you Dec 20 05:07:04 I guess I could always use virtualbox Dec 20 05:07:10 * timeless_mbp does Dec 20 05:07:13 if all else fails Dec 20 05:07:23 do us a favor and document all your steps Dec 20 05:07:32 that way if it doesn't fail you can post a wiki page Dec 20 05:07:40 will do Dec 20 06:02:27 keitä kaf Dec 20 06:02:31 :) Dec 20 06:03:21 ups :) Dec 20 06:05:19 anyone could tell me something about process of source code to image Dec 20 06:05:35 why do you need to build your own image from source code? Dec 20 06:07:24 I am now asked to learn git ,and this may be relative to source code , and I want to know the role of it Dec 20 06:18:18 hlzxy, read progit (it's free to read of the website) Dec 20 06:24:17 comawhite: thanks, but my problem is not on git .I want to know the process of source code to other(like image , rpm,) as I want to know the value of the thing it control Dec 20 06:24:59 hlzxy, ah sorry Dec 20 06:31:15 comawhite: this book seems very good. Dec 20 06:31:22 it is Dec 20 06:33:45 hlzxy: consider yourself fortunate. git is the shit Dec 20 06:42:29 mortenmj: why? Dec 20 06:53:00 hlzxy: none of the other version control systems i've worked with has given me as much freedom as git does Dec 20 06:53:08 i feel very constrainted using e.g. svn or bzr Dec 20 06:54:17 git is specifically intended for distributed development, so you can very easily do pretty much whatever you like to your own repository. most other version control systems make it comparatively difficult to go back and change things Dec 20 06:56:06 Get it... Dec 20 07:24:22 trying to install the sdk on my ubuntu 64 bit 10.10 but apt-get update is not fetching "Release" why's that? Dec 20 07:24:49 mortenmj, yeah like svn, which I hate really bad Dec 20 07:25:56 moin everyone Dec 20 07:26:02 moin Dec 20 07:26:03 morn Dec 20 07:26:14 morn Dec 20 07:26:19 can anyone help me with this? Dec 20 07:26:23 cant seem to install the sdk Dec 20 07:48:19 fish_sticks: what distro? Dec 20 07:48:32 mortenmj: Ubuntu Dec 20 07:49:37 so what's the issue? you add the meego-sdk ppa and use apt... Dec 20 07:50:41 is a version of SDK supporting 64-bit Maverick even out yet? Dec 20 07:57:11 is the 'obs-signer' always avaiable on zypper? I'm not sure if I could have a chance to download it before Dec 20 07:57:24 at this time it looks not working Dec 20 08:36:27 morning Dec 20 09:25:01 morning Dec 20 09:25:58 I finally had some time to fiddle with the lenovo from the conference yesterday. But for some reason I can't get the wifi working everything seems to be loaded ok I've compiled the latest driver from broadcom and it seems to work ok. Anybody that has any ideas how to fix this Dec 20 09:27:16 I've tried all the things written about in the forum like remove battery and load default settings in bios Dec 20 09:27:41 Seems like the hardware is broken Dec 20 09:28:43 !list Dec 20 09:35:54 obit_sweden: iirc some of the people got bad devices Dec 20 09:36:14 but the smart ones tried the non free firmware while on site and swapped for working hardware Dec 20 09:36:30 the purists instead (perhaps you?) opted to be surprised and up a creek without a paddle Dec 20 09:37:08 obit_sweden: try windows 7 starter :), if it works, the hardware isn't buggy :) Dec 20 09:37:27 timeless_mbp: did you manage to get an install cd? :) Dec 20 09:38:10 not yet Dec 20 09:38:18 * timeless_mbp should find someone w/ a usb dvd burner... Dec 20 09:52:26 Stskeeps, Thanks Dec 20 09:53:08 Stskeeps, Seems like a phenomenon I see a lot, but it got quite a poor reception (in terms of numbers of comments) compared to some others - perhaps it's just not a controversail topic. Dec 20 09:53:20 what's this? Dec 20 09:53:39 timeless_mbp: thanked dneary in #meego-meeting by accident, for his shy developer posts Dec 20 09:54:01 dneary: i think it's one of those invisible problems in communities that ruin development Dec 20 09:54:01 "shy developer" posts? Dec 20 09:54:06 timeless_mbp: planet.maemo.org Dec 20 09:54:17 timeless_mbp, He thanked me deliberately Dec 20 09:54:26 It was in #meego-meeting that was the accident Dec 20 09:54:28 :) Dec 20 09:55:05 timeless_mbp, In brief, many professional software developers are very reluctant to engage with public mailing lists Dec 20 09:55:20 timeless_mbp, The question is why, I try to give some answers Dec 20 09:55:31 dneary: i've learned that if i post to a mailing list i get spam Dec 20 09:55:32 And potential solutions Dec 20 09:55:48 if i post from my employer's email address, i get spam for as long as i work at that employer Dec 20 09:56:00 http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/08/curing-shy-developer-syndrome/ Dec 20 09:56:02 this is unfortunate, since my employer's spam filtering isn't necessarily great Dec 20 09:56:14 yeah, i'm reading it @ http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2010/12/18/follow-up-to-shy-developer-syndrome/ Dec 20 09:56:15 http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/18/follow-up-to-shy-developer-syndrome/ Dec 20 09:56:46 timeless_mbp, I've seen it when working with companies Dec 20 09:57:06 French, Finnish, American & German based companies Dec 20 09:57:10 Same symptoms Dec 20 09:57:12 dneary: as a student (high school, college), i was willing to post from my personal address Dec 20 09:57:25 you can still find me in microsoft's usenet groups Dec 20 09:57:37 possibly also in borland's and a few others if the archives are still alive Dec 20 09:58:10 another problem i have with mailing lists is that people don't follow etiquette Dec 20 09:58:17 they don't search through archives before posting Dec 20 09:58:27 they do contact you directly Dec 20 09:58:37 (i've had people contact me *years* after i stopped posting to a group) Dec 20 09:59:03 and mailing lists do not work well as issue trackers Dec 20 09:59:16 i'd much rather a professional team use an actual bug tracker Dec 20 09:59:28 vbox has a mix of a -dev mailing list and a bug tracker Dec 20 09:59:37 while i hate track, i'd much rather use it than deal w/ a mailing list Dec 20 09:59:52 timeless_mbp: when posting privately I'm using mail addresses which are only valid for a few months, whenever possible Dec 20 09:59:53 it's easier for me to know the status of my patches if they're in an issue tracker Dec 20 10:00:04 Aard: i was young Dec 20 10:00:09 besides it's interesting Dec 20 10:00:23 and it means i can actually follow my old history Dec 20 10:01:00 dneary: this of course ignores old fashioned flame wars Dec 20 10:01:13 ... and spam which generally accumulates in mailing lists Dec 20 10:01:19 (it can be cleaned out of bug trackers) Dec 20 10:01:43 this isn't to say that i'm not involved in *any* groups via mailing lists Dec 20 10:02:04 i'm in one active (mercurial) and a couple inactive (well, more accurately very-near-dead [symbian]) Dec 20 10:02:12 the spam problem could be solved by finally throwing away a protocol not suitable for modern email communication Dec 20 10:02:26 deposit-pay-to-post Dec 20 10:02:49 but i haven't seen anyone implement that usefully Dec 20 10:03:20 mailing lists also don't generally have particularly useful ways of dealing w/ non native speakers Dec 20 10:03:31 timeless_mbp, It seems like you're in the "I want to separate work & community" camp Dec 20 10:03:33 w/ a bug, if you need a translator, you can assign the bug to someone and have them proxy Dec 20 10:03:40 And you use semi-anonymousness to do that Dec 20 10:03:43 * timeless_mbp points to irc Dec 20 10:03:54 Except we've now met you & know your real name :) Dec 20 10:03:59 this is one of my communities Dec 20 10:04:10 which is vaguely separate from work Dec 20 10:04:21 but yeah Dec 20 10:04:38 that's a pretty accurate description of what i want/need Dec 20 10:05:05 It's a decent tactic Dec 20 10:05:09 oh, also, if you actually speak from an employer's account people start assuming that you're actually making a public policy statement Dec 20 10:05:16 and get annoyed all sorts of ways Dec 20 10:05:18 One that gave me some trouble during the GNOME census this year Dec 20 10:05:30 timeless_mbp, That annoys me Dec 20 10:05:33 irc is understood to be informal Dec 20 10:05:46 (the assuming corporate policy from individual statements thing) Dec 20 10:05:53 it's impossible to avoid if you send email from @company.name Dec 20 10:05:58 Sure it is Dec 20 10:06:06 really? Dec 20 10:06:08 do tell Dec 20 10:06:09 * timeless_mbp reads Dec 20 10:06:25 giant disclaimers? Dec 20 10:06:25 :P Dec 20 10:06:28 You just have to add 10 lines of legal boilerplate after your signature, and it will be clear that your opinions, unless otherwise stated, are your own Dec 20 10:06:33 :) Dec 20 10:06:42 btw, on the left side of: Dec 20 10:06:43 http://www.neary-consulting.com/index.php/2010/12/08/curing-shy-developer-syndrome/ Dec 20 10:06:49 No, it is a problem. But then, some people muddy the waters Dec 20 10:06:52 you have '-->' below "Free Blog Host" Dec 20 10:06:55 is that intentional? Dec 20 10:07:14 personally, i *hate* those disclaimers Dec 20 10:07:14 dneary: I've seen some nice jabs at that, such as "#include " in signatures Dec 20 10:07:30 and i'd hate to become a hypocrite by being forced to include one Dec 20 10:07:57 timeless_mbp, Everyone hates those disclaimers. Stskeeps and myself were obviously both joking Dec 20 10:08:16 dneary: i could see that Stskeeps was joking Dec 20 10:08:32 surely company statements would be press-releases, web-pages, corporate blogs, documentation, stuff like that, everything else is not Dec 20 10:08:42 your response didn't actually give a proper hint. from context i clearly thought you were serious :( Dec 20 10:08:52 Well, let's take an example: Dec 20 10:09:03 odin_: um, it's trivial for me to show that people don't work that way Dec 20 10:09:11 simply from my maemo experience Dec 20 10:09:26 there's a great quote here, but i need to find it Dec 20 10:09:45 I for one have a hard time telling when Arjan is talking as "just Arjan", "Arjan the kernel hacker", "Arjan the architect of MeeGo" Dec 20 10:10:11 [People are] so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand. Dec 20 10:10:18 timeless_mbp, Sorry - that's my deadpan sense of humour betraying me again Dec 20 10:10:29 dneary: it's ok, but try working on your smilies ;-b Dec 20 10:10:51 dneary: yeah, see, in bugzilla it's actually possible to deal w/ that Dec 20 10:11:02 you can create accounts which are impersonatable Dec 20 10:11:10 Like that time I suggested that the French should expel everyone who wasn't French born at a party, and people spent half an hour explaining to me that I was wrong... Dec 20 10:11:15 and when someone needs to make an official statement, they impersonate those accounts Dec 20 10:11:22 otherwise they're treated as normal people Dec 20 10:11:34 dneary: wow Dec 20 10:12:05 dneary: i must say that having a board of two with Arjan sometimes *presenting* a proposal is *incredibly* confusing Dec 20 10:12:15 I am saying it should, that corporate/company statement, comes from a corporate/company source, all other sources are to be considered less formal by default Dec 20 10:12:35 odin_: if wishes were horses Dec 20 10:12:44 hat wearing is just to indicate bias, which is better than not indicating any (when one maybe present) Dec 20 10:12:47 ... did anyone recognize my quote abotu sand? Dec 20 10:12:49 dneary: good article. Dec 20 10:12:55 timeless_mbp, smilies or metaphors? Dec 20 10:12:56 s/abotu/about/ Dec 20 10:12:56 timeless_mbp meant: ... did anyone recognize my quote about sand? Dec 20 10:13:28 dneary: error context lost :( Dec 20 10:13:45 timeless_mbp, Yes, I agree, it's sometimes hard to tell when Arjan is asking for feedack and when he is informing you of a decision. Dec 20 10:14:05 dneary: it's ok, but try working on your smilies ;-b Dec 20 10:14:08 actually, in that case, i think it was vaguely clear he was submitting a proposal Dec 20 10:14:18 dneary: smilies :) Dec 20 10:14:29 i generally write what i mean and mean what i write :) Dec 20 10:14:36 See, I did a cute thing where I transposed letters and responded like you'd said silimes Dec 20 10:14:41 similes even Dec 20 10:14:56 See, it's that deadpan humour thing again Dec 20 10:14:58 yeah, i saw it Dec 20 10:15:26 dneary: i think that form of humor works better in person Dec 20 10:15:45 you have more confidence that the person understood the context and has chosen to go a different way Dec 20 10:15:54 It's like when you see someone pushing a door with "pull" written on it. Dec 20 10:15:59 whereas here there's always some chance that someone is clarifying on behalf of an audience Dec 20 10:16:17 (Is that a good enough simile?) Dec 20 10:16:33 the doors around here tend to say vetää Dec 20 10:16:57 and people get a lot more sympathy from me for it, and a lot less from everyone else :( Dec 20 10:17:31 actually, i'm not really sure what the doors say, i don't bother to try reading them :/ Dec 20 10:17:46 oh brother Dec 20 10:17:50 * timeless_mbp kicks imdb Dec 20 10:17:55 it's giving me localized content Dec 20 10:18:03 > Memorable quotes for Amerikan presidentti (1995) More at IMDbPro »The American President (original title) Dec 20 10:18:11 timeless_mbp: i have it in polish Dec 20 10:18:15 it's just as bad Dec 20 10:18:20 oh, i'm sure Dec 20 10:18:25 and you have my sympathies Dec 20 10:18:51 Must finish article Dec 20 10:20:04 DawnFoster: what wakes you at 2am? Dec 20 10:20:43 broken intel connections probably Dec 20 10:23:52 have a wonderful festive season all Dec 20 10:24:26 dneary: so... why do you think mailing lists are important? Dec 20 10:24:34 i''m not saying they aren't Dec 20 10:24:44 timeless_mbp, I think that communication is important Dec 20 10:24:49 and in fact developing people's writing skills is important Dec 20 10:24:53 * DangerMaus didnt even realize it was decemv=ber Dec 20 10:24:56 but, why specifically mailing lists Dec 20 10:25:08 DangerMaus: blink and you'll miss it? Dec 20 10:25:32 I think it's important that people can see what is happening, why, that there are opportunities to affect change from time to time Dec 20 10:25:52 Well, mailing lists fill a gap between wiki & IRC Dec 20 10:25:58 what's that gap? Dec 20 10:26:01 asynchronous extended communication Dec 20 10:26:23 and why does that gap need filling? Dec 20 10:26:26 asynchronous in that participants don't have to be in the same place at the same time Dec 20 10:26:36 yepyep this time of year goes that way Dec 20 10:26:38 in mozilla we can play ping- tag on irc Dec 20 10:26:40 Communication in that it's 2 way, unlike a wiki page Dec 20 10:26:51 it eventually works Dec 20 10:27:04 and some people learn to overload their ping packets to include a message Dec 20 10:27:16 And extended because sometimes you need more than 140 characters to say something important Dec 20 10:27:33 That assumes everyone is online 24/7 Dec 20 10:27:34 hrm, are you tweetening me? Dec 20 10:27:42 haha Dec 20 10:27:57 dneary: 24/6 is good enough for me :) Dec 20 10:28:17 My primary computer is a laptop which I suspend every evening. So between about 8pm and 9am, pinging me will get a "user not found" Dec 20 10:28:47 timeless_mbp, I now have work to do - and IRC is interrupting me Dec 20 10:28:56 wow, you're only available 11/6 ? Dec 20 10:28:59 But I can turn off email, or set it to fetch every half an hour Dec 20 10:29:18 dneary: do you take feedback on blogs, or are they write once? Dec 20 10:29:25 timeless_mbp, I am available more than that, because I sometimes check email during the evening or on weekends Dec 20 10:29:34 timeless_mbp, Both Dec 20 10:29:53 I take feedback, and sometimes I'll do follow up posts, but I rarely edit originals Dec 20 10:30:16 email is nice because you can take an hour or more to write it, and if it is about something important, your recipients can never claim they forgot to read it Dec 20 10:30:39 rauli: um Dec 20 10:30:45 they certainly do Dec 20 10:30:51 Now - I really do have to finish this article before midday, so I'm away. Dec 20 10:30:53 most of the time i hear "oh, that was in my spam bin" Dec 20 10:31:07 sadly, i believe them Dec 20 10:34:58 d-neary: fwiw, i think maemo is not one of those communities w/ a high tolerance for incomplete plans Dec 20 10:35:05 and i suspect meego won't be either Dec 20 10:35:17 communities composed of developers can be Dec 20 10:35:35 but communities which attract masses of end users don't tend to be Dec 20 10:36:04 ... if you keep the end users out of the technical lists, then things are different Dec 20 10:36:19 ... instead you get /. reporting on your dev list discussions Dec 20 10:36:28 (which is probably worse) Dec 20 10:39:30 I'm trying to compile the core rpms in http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.9.20101207.1/core/repos/source/ to armv5 by http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/builds/1.0.90/1.0.90.0.20100831.1/core/repos/armv5tel/ but while the process, it's making some failed results (10 so far), will these be fixed at the end?? Dec 20 10:40:29 JunJi: what end? Dec 20 10:40:50 JunJi: ~7 packages is normal Dec 20 10:40:52 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Days_(film) Dec 20 10:41:20 at the end of the compiling, are these supposed to be fixed? :p Dec 20 10:41:25 nop Dec 20 10:41:26 I know it won't :( Dec 20 10:41:37 seems like a silly question Dec 20 10:41:39 10 is equal to what i saw mself Dec 20 10:41:51 timeless_mbp: agree :) just my hope Dec 20 10:41:55 oops... Dec 20 10:41:56 packages in obs world properly build dependencies first Dec 20 10:42:07 which means a failure is a failure for a given snapshot Dec 20 10:42:14 and it sounds like you knew that Dec 20 10:42:27 JunJi: which packages in question? Dec 20 10:42:39 yes.. but I got the rpms from the official mirrors so it's hard to think these are wrong.. Dec 20 10:42:52 the failed packages? Dec 20 10:42:54 JunJi: we have ~7 'failed' packages in meego.com OBS Dec 20 10:42:58 so it's expected Dec 20 10:43:02 ~10 is probably because of armv5 Dec 20 10:43:02 ...but 10 is already something else... Dec 20 10:43:21 because of the armv5 1.0.90? Dec 20 10:43:28 or armv5 in general :) Dec 20 10:43:38 please file bugs if you see any Dec 20 10:43:48 so it's not possible to compile the latest core rpms to armv5 using the 1.0.90 armv5? Dec 20 10:43:50 ok Dec 20 10:44:13 it is possible, just that 7 packages are known not to build on ARM in general Dec 20 10:44:17 JunJi: your conclusions are kinda negative Dec 20 10:44:32 obviously it's possible to compile a large number of the rpms Dec 20 10:44:33 as you've done so Dec 20 10:44:39 and the 3 on top of that is probably armv5-specific build problems Dec 20 10:45:00 JunJi: try to avoid "so it's not possible to <....>?" Dec 20 10:45:15 treating things in black and white doesn't make people happy Dec 20 10:45:22 ah, grammar Dec 20 10:45:23 :P Dec 20 10:45:29 eat tuile kbd libgphoto2 libisofs libqttracker mpc perl-SOAP-Lite python-imaging python-reportlab un-core-fonts Dec 20 10:45:33 there are the failed Dec 20 10:45:38 there's nothing grammatically wrong Dec 20 10:45:43 it just expressed the wrong concept Dec 20 10:45:51 which is worse :) Dec 20 10:46:17 JunJi: sounds like the ones i saw on my own one too Dec 20 10:46:25 lol Dec 20 10:46:41 how could I avoid these failures? Dec 20 10:46:58 JunJi: by fixing the packages Dec 20 10:47:02 * timeless_mbp sighs Dec 20 10:47:07 (or not building them) Dec 20 10:47:12 well, because we're stupid in meego.com and we don't build armv5 at the moment, we don't see those problems Dec 20 10:47:13 actually I didn't turn off the computer for 4 days :) Dec 20 10:47:25 so best thing is to check the build logs Dec 20 10:47:32 and file bugs when you see prolems Dec 20 10:47:37 ok, Dec 20 10:47:37 * lcuk shivers a bit Dec 20 10:47:43 Stskeeps: have you filed bugs for your 7? Dec 20 10:47:54 timeless_mbp: mostly, yeah Dec 20 10:47:57 but you fixed them so far which means there is a solution Dec 20 10:48:04 so far -> before Dec 20 10:48:15 JunJi: no Dec 20 10:48:22 he worked around them by ignoring them Dec 20 10:48:24 and filing bugs Dec 20 10:48:27 JunJi: we don't have 100% compiling packages atm :) Dec 20 10:48:33 JunJi: ie, there's some that just fail on arm Dec 20 10:48:44 JunJi: please excuse my next question: what's your native language? Dec 20 10:49:19 JunJi: and from when we had armv5 we upgraded to gcc 4.5, which broke a lot of things Dec 20 10:49:28 and didn't verify if things still worked on armv5 Dec 20 10:49:34 Stskeeps: i've now searched for 4 of the things in JunJi 's list Dec 20 10:49:34 hence what you see there :) Dec 20 10:49:38 and none of them give useful hits Dec 20 10:49:47 are you not including the package names in your bug summaries? Dec 20 10:50:06 timeless_mbp: i'm not at work, so i'm not going to bother with bureaucracy right no, sorry Dec 20 10:50:16 timeless_mbp: and those package names were different from ours, he'll probably get to those atm Dec 20 10:50:24 at some point, i mean Dec 20 10:50:39 Stskeeps: oh so you mean his 10 are beyond your 10? Dec 20 10:50:48 Stskeeps: i think it'd be helpful to point JunJi to a sample bug Dec 20 10:50:49 right, hence me asking for bug reports Dec 20 10:50:54 so he can go off and file the rest Dec 20 10:51:05 because otherwise we're asking him to get confused Dec 20 10:51:11 a template would be *very* helpful here Dec 20 10:52:41 hey is there anybody help me? Dec 20 10:52:49 * timeless_mbp ponders bug 7006 v bug 9554 Dec 20 10:52:52 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7006 cri, High, ---, carsten, ASSI, [N900] gst-video-thumbnailerd segfault Dec 20 10:52:54 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9554 cri, High, ---, carsten, ASSI, [N900] gst-video-thumbnailerd segfault Dec 20 10:52:58 1.1 vs 1.2 Dec 20 10:53:00 Guest4955: eh Dec 20 10:53:08 about obs Dec 20 10:53:52 currently I have installed local obs server in my computer.(very high spec) Dec 20 10:54:36 I have set for build incompletely. Dec 20 10:55:32 problem is , some module is built for i586, but isn't built for arm Dec 20 10:55:56 help me.. Dec 20 10:56:15 Guest4955: not everything is guaranteed to build Dec 20 10:56:27 if things don't build, use bugs.meego.com to find or file a bug Dec 20 10:56:32 preferably with a patch Dec 20 10:56:42 and if the problem belongs to an upstream product, please file a bug there too Dec 20 10:56:44 ... Dec 20 10:57:05 Stskeeps: distributions are stupid Dec 20 10:57:13 because they result in people assuming the world is perfect Dec 20 10:57:18 (see JunJi , Guest4955 ) Dec 20 10:57:33 and if its ont building *anything* for ARM, please review the documentation and confirm you are confirgured for and asking OBS to build for ARM Dec 20 10:57:38 not ^ Dec 20 10:57:54 lcuk: s/foo/bar/ works ;-) Dec 20 10:58:35 log messeage as like this : Using BUILD_ROOT=/var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/.mount Dec 20 10:58:35 Using BUILD_ARCH=armv7el Dec 20 10:58:35 Doing kvm build in /var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/root Dec 20 10:58:35 fqdn started "build lua.spec" at Mon Dec 20 19:45:45 UTC 2010. Dec 20 10:58:35 Building lua for project 'MeeGo:2010.12.14:Core' repository 'MeeGo_1.0.80.8.20100629.1_Core_standard' arch 'armv7el' srcmd5 '9166603ea62e077b373ec5077e265a2c' Dec 20 10:58:35 processing specfile /var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/.build-srcdir/lua.spec ... Dec 20 10:58:37 running changelog2spec --target rpm --file /var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/.build-srcdir/lua.spec Dec 20 10:58:39 init_buildsystem --cachedir /var/cache/build --prepare --clean --rpmlist /var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/.build.rpmlist /var/cache/obs/worker/root_2/.build-srcdir/lua.spec build rpmlint-Factory ... Dec 20 10:58:42 copying qemu Dec 20 10:58:43 Guest4955: no pasting Dec 20 10:58:44 preinstalling aaa-meego-accelerator... Dec 20 10:58:46 preinstalling glibc-x86-arm... Dec 20 10:58:47 use pastebin Dec 20 10:58:48 preinstalling bash-x86-arm... Dec 20 10:58:50 preinstalling ncurses-libs-x86-arm... Dec 20 10:58:53 or you'll get kicked Dec 20 10:58:53 preinstalling rpm... Dec 20 10:58:55 preinstalling rpm-libs... Dec 20 10:58:57 preinstalling bash... Dec 20 10:58:59 lbt: just kick him Dec 20 10:58:59 preinstalling bzip2... Dec 20 10:59:01 preinstalling coreutils... Dec 20 10:59:04 preinstalling diffutils... Dec 20 10:59:04 timeless_mbp: When I got mine there was not so many left. To bad Lenovo shipped such crappy devices I will try to install windows. It would be nice to actually be able to use the device Dec 20 10:59:05 * lbt can't Dec 20 10:59:06 preinstalling db4... Dec 20 10:59:08 preinstalling filesystem... Dec 20 10:59:10 preinstalling grep... Dec 20 10:59:12 preinstalling glibc... Dec 20 10:59:14 Guest4955: oi!!! Dec 20 10:59:14 preinstalling glibc-common... Dec 20 10:59:17 preinstalling libacl... Dec 20 10:59:19 preinstalling libattr... Dec 20 10:59:21 preinstalling libgcc... Dec 20 11:00:23 Stskeeps: you are the manager of this meego channel...ah.... Dec 20 11:00:57 a manager, not the Dec 20 11:00:57 :P Dec 20 11:01:03 Stskeeps++ Dec 20 11:01:13 * timeless_mbp didn't type that correction fast enough :) Dec 20 11:01:23 hey Dec 20 11:01:30 ah, kindly man .Stskeeps... Dec 20 11:01:31 david__: no pasting please... very rude. Dec 20 11:01:42 use pastie.org or something Dec 20 11:01:42 forgive my rude Dec 20 11:01:47 np Dec 20 11:01:50 learning :) Dec 20 11:01:54 i wiil keep a manner. Dec 20 11:02:49 http://www.pastie.org/1391637 Dec 20 11:02:53 this is my log.. Dec 20 11:03:06 Stskeeps: see you!~ Dec 20 11:03:07