**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 02 02:59:58 2011 Jan 02 05:51:36 morning Jan 02 07:55:23 hi Jan 02 07:55:48 anyone using ovi maps? Jan 02 07:56:32 hello Jan 02 07:57:14 happy newyear Jan 02 07:57:33 thanks Jan 02 07:57:34 u too Jan 02 07:57:52 I am working under Meego port to LEO Jan 02 07:58:02 do you guys use ovi nap 3.06? Jan 02 07:58:17 got back from rome yesterday... 10 days is not enough in that city... Jan 02 07:58:21 map Jan 02 08:00:10 Cotulla: LEO? Jan 02 08:00:32 icesword: we don't really deal with ovi maps here Jan 02 08:05:24 is there a nokia channel? Jan 02 08:06:32 yes HTC HD2 == LEO Jan 02 08:06:36 ah Jan 02 08:06:42 u good in megoo? Jan 02 08:08:37 decently Jan 02 08:08:52 nice Jan 02 08:08:57 can u answer few questions? Jan 02 08:09:38 you can try to ask and if i can't, maybe someone else can Jan 02 08:10:07 are there any other useful logs, except kernel's dmesg? (android have logcat for example, which helps a lot of) Jan 02 08:10:41 /var/log/ :) Jan 02 08:11:06 hm is it possible to check which graphical drivers used now ? Jan 02 08:11:08 /var/log/uxlaunch.log and /home/meego/.xsession-errors are my prime source of info Jan 02 08:11:15 and /var/log/Xorg.0.log Jan 02 08:11:19 nice, let me dump Jan 02 08:13:08 are there way to execute different meego applications via command line? Jan 02 08:14:04 like? Jan 02 08:14:30 I have access to shell from computer Jan 02 08:14:44 and wants to run people for example Jan 02 08:14:47 is it possible? Jan 02 08:16:47 install openssh-server, http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_With_The_Aava#Add_the_Ability_to_.27screen.27_in Jan 02 08:18:39 what does the HD2 run normally? windows mobile? Jan 02 08:18:44 yes Jan 02 08:18:51 but now running Android well Jan 02 08:19:06 ok Jan 02 08:19:11 are u porting meego to some device too? Jan 02 08:19:53 i'm the nokia n900 hardware adaptation maintainer Jan 02 08:19:54 :P Jan 02 08:20:01 hm nice Jan 02 08:20:15 now system boots, there 4 icons at bottom Jan 02 08:20:19 but most of them not working... Jan 02 08:20:22 is it normal? Jan 02 08:20:44 well, since you don't have GLES2 a lot of things are possibe Jan 02 08:20:46 check the logs Jan 02 08:22:56 ok wait Jan 02 08:26:03 hm nothing... can u look to logs? Jan 02 08:26:36 oh no Jan 02 08:26:41 wait I found something ;) Jan 02 08:28:21 Qt: WARNING: unknown event code 53 on multitouch device Jan 02 08:28:24 u know that is it? Jan 02 08:28:39 I am using in TS driver ABS_MT_POSITION_X and ABS_MT_POSITION_Y Jan 02 08:28:44 is it right? Jan 02 08:32:09 MT_POSITION is new to me Jan 02 08:32:21 what version are you basing on? Jan 02 08:32:21 hm Jan 02 08:32:30 2.6.32 Jan 02 08:32:33 i thought it was like ABS_X and ABS_Y Jan 02 08:32:36 i mean meego Jan 02 08:32:50 ABS_X ABS_Y for first point Jan 02 08:32:57 I about multitouch Jan 02 08:33:11 ah Jan 02 08:33:31 but u maybe don't know, bcz n900 have resistive touchscreen ;) Jan 02 08:34:07 meego mt support could be better :) Jan 02 08:34:09 we Jan 02 08:34:14 're working hard on it for 1.2 Jan 02 08:34:32 hm\ Jan 02 08:34:57 can u explain also, all libs in usr lib have ".2.0.0" like numbers at the end Jan 02 08:35:00 is it versions? Jan 02 08:35:12 and any special rules Jan 02 08:35:14 ? Jan 02 08:35:50 it's SONAMES Jan 02 08:35:57 it's natural :) Jan 02 08:36:47 so they can be omitted Jan 02 08:36:49 in theory>? Jan 02 08:37:34 apps will likely link to those, check with ldd Jan 02 08:37:44 which ones are you thinking about in particular? Jan 02 08:38:56 oh I forgot specify -l option to gcc %) Jan 02 08:39:01 will fix it now Jan 02 08:40:21 since you're doing meego ARM work, feel free to join #meego-arm - general rule is that people are welcome to ask questions but you have to do your own homework yourself (ie, do things and solve some problems) :) Jan 02 08:41:03 yeah... I am feels boring too from n00bs who ask on #htc-linux Jan 02 08:41:11 how to do this? how to do next step? Jan 02 08:41:15 and etc Jan 02 08:41:17 :( Jan 02 08:42:00 hm u know what is minimum size of megoo? currently I am using image 1.6 Gb Jan 02 08:42:16 there ever gcc inside O_o Jan 02 08:42:42 well, with sample media it's fairly big ;) Jan 02 08:42:48 i wouldn't recommend a NAND install Jan 02 08:43:03 we running from sd Jan 02 08:43:17 but gcc is cool Jan 02 08:43:22 I builded make inside O_o Jan 02 08:46:40 on which linux meego based btw? Jan 02 08:48:05 itself, really Jan 02 08:50:48 there are some subtle traces of Moblin but mostly itself :) Jan 02 08:52:18 how to fix duihome: cannot connect to X server? Jan 02 08:52:42 Cotulla: have your xorg not crash? Jan 02 08:52:43 :P Jan 02 08:52:57 I just type "duihome" in console Jan 02 08:53:15 ah Jan 02 08:53:16 ok reboot Jan 02 08:53:22 su meego, export DISPLAY=:0 Jan 02 08:53:52 hm GL used by Qt? or who use libEGL and etc? Jan 02 08:54:12 Qt uses EGL and GLESv2 Jan 02 08:55:00 so meego won't boot without this files? or will? Jan 02 08:55:19 it will, if you have software rendering environment variable going Jan 02 08:55:25 look how the other qsd ports did it Jan 02 08:59:33 hm interesting. If I am using dlopen() it's working nice... but Qt show unresolved symbol... :( Jan 02 09:00:08 what are you trying? Jan 02 09:02:49 oh RTLD_LAZY -> RTLD_NOW Jan 02 09:03:10 I wanna 3D :) Jan 02 09:03:54 got proper gles libs that aren't tainted by android stuff? :P Jan 02 09:06:09 seems I am not first who bother u :D Jan 02 09:27:04 hm Jan 02 09:27:11 what about BT? Jan 02 09:27:17 bluetooth? Jan 02 09:27:20 yes Jan 02 09:27:21 dump in firmware, usually Jan 02 09:27:23 it depends on kernel Jan 02 09:27:28 we have bluez Jan 02 09:27:37 there before run we need run special startup program to load FW Jan 02 09:27:46 how it can be implemented in Meego Jan 02 09:27:46 ? Jan 02 09:27:59 in Android there was parameter for bt service Jan 02 09:28:11 udev Jan 02 09:39:06 hello Jan 02 09:39:29 Stskeeps: how is the project coming along? Jan 02 09:41:36 how would i know, it's snday Jan 02 09:41:36 :P Jan 02 09:51:39 :D Jan 02 09:53:35 hm why on megoo no C++ compilator? :D Jan 02 09:53:39 only C... Jan 02 09:53:43 Cotulla: g++? Jan 02 09:53:47 install it Jan 02 09:53:47 :P Jan 02 09:53:53 sh-4.0# find . | grep cc1plus Jan 02 09:53:53 find . | grep cc1plus Jan 02 09:53:53 sh-4.0# Jan 02 09:53:55 missing :P Jan 02 09:53:58 how to install it? Jan 02 09:54:09 install gcc-c++ Jan 02 09:54:12 zypper in gcc-c++ Jan 02 09:55:10 I heard there packages for meego Jan 02 09:55:14 isn't it>? Jan 02 09:55:21 sure? Jan 02 09:55:21 :P Jan 02 09:55:31 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/core/repos/armv7l/packages/armv7l/ Jan 02 09:55:33 yeah Jan 02 09:56:32 it also has something like apt-get, zypper Jan 02 09:56:33 Stskeeps, the only way to have rest from workrelated stuff is go away from irc? :) Jan 02 09:57:57 but my meego have not internet :P Jan 02 09:58:42 Cotulla: get usbnet Jan 02 09:58:43 :P Jan 02 09:58:49 lazy Jan 02 09:58:53 u know such word? :D Jan 02 09:58:57 I am very lazy :( Jan 02 09:59:49 lol Jan 02 09:59:50 installed Jan 02 09:59:51 :D Jan 02 09:59:57 never did such dirty things before Jan 02 10:04:28 Hello. Jan 02 10:08:20 hey Jan 02 10:53:00 hm are there in linux atomic functions for userspace? Jan 02 11:39:59 Does anyone here like classic Doom Metal? :) Jan 02 11:40:49 no, but I bet lot of us here likes MeeGo Jan 02 11:41:31 I'm one of them! :D Jan 02 11:41:50 Don't tell anyone, but i like both. Jan 02 11:43:25 :D Jan 02 11:45:18 Is it not allowed to talk about not-MeeGo-topics here? :) Jan 02 11:46:18 we have #meego-bar for totally off topic ;) Jan 02 11:46:44 but on-topic-off-topic flows Jan 02 11:47:11 Sorry then.. :) Jan 02 11:47:31 Stskeeps, how's that new graphics driver coming along? Jan 02 11:47:47 Stskeeps, u know how flush dcache in lunix? Jan 02 11:48:03 TomaszD: good Jan 02 11:48:19 Stskeeps, is it in now? Jan 02 11:48:27 happy new year by the way Jan 02 11:48:28 :) Jan 02 11:48:44 TomaszD: no releases were made between xmas and newyears Jan 02 11:49:41 Stskeeps, what about the emgd joggler meego situation? Jan 02 11:50:07 TomaszD, are you waiting for ION support too? :) Jan 02 11:50:07 TomaszD: for 1.2 i had a problem just before christmas cos we switched to egl/gles for meego qt Jan 02 11:50:22 TomaszD: i plan to look into it soon Jan 02 11:50:35 Aderlass_, no, the gfx driver for the n900 Jan 02 11:50:42 Aah! Jan 02 11:50:42 and also for gma500 (joggler) Jan 02 11:50:57 TomaszD: you're more than welcome to try the 'demo' image from tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php Jan 02 11:51:11 A friend got his n900 last week. Haben't heared from him since.. ;) Jan 02 11:51:17 b=v Jan 02 11:52:29 oh well Jan 02 11:54:48 Must be a nice toy. :) Jan 02 12:01:17 nazgee: any luck? Jan 02 12:01:29 nazgee: also, you should really be in #meego-arm :) Jan 02 12:07:25 Aderlass_, a nice toy? Jan 02 12:21:07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA&NR=1&feature=fvwp Jan 02 12:21:12 Stskeeps: $ Jan 02 12:21:15 Stskeeps: ^ Jan 02 12:22:32 Stskeeps: still fighting with xorg not getting up... but I will try to restraing my questions, and have some fun playing with it. If it eventually won't work, I'll probably pull all my hair out... and start all over again :) Jan 02 12:40:02 TomaszD, sorry, i meant new hype-super-uber-Smartphone. :D Jan 02 12:41:30 well, it's ok Jan 02 13:00:56 * CosmoHill programs a B-Tree Jan 02 13:03:03 CosmoHill: I have a B Tree in my garden Jan 02 13:03:23 does it self balance when it grows more leaves? Jan 02 13:03:39 yes, of course Jan 02 13:03:58 it also balances itself when I break one of its branches Jan 02 13:04:19 did you beat a small red car with said branch? Jan 02 13:04:42 no, but if I plant the broken branch, another B-Tree will grow from it Jan 02 13:04:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl3mfaWCnWw Jan 02 13:05:18 LOOL Jan 02 13:07:11 better clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc&feature=channel Jan 02 13:27:05 CosmoHill: what are you going to do with this b tree and why are you making one if there are so many already in the wild includin gthe stl? :) Jan 02 13:27:29 it;s my way of doing revision Jan 02 13:27:32 sivang: because you can't use a data structure if you can't make the impl yourself ;) Jan 02 13:27:32 hi Termana Jan 02 13:28:00 my programming it I learn how insertion, deletion and searching works Jan 02 13:28:26 by* Jan 02 13:29:10 hey CosmoHill, how are you? Jan 02 13:29:23 i'm good Jan 02 13:41:51 maybe I should have done a AVL tree instead Jan 02 13:43:01 oh hey, I have AVLtree.h on my mac Jan 02 13:56:04 hmm, FLAC or Apple Lossless? Jan 02 13:57:20 FLAC is lossless. Jan 02 13:57:36 And OSS. :) Jan 02 14:02:54 holy poop, if I want lossless I'm gonna need a bigger hard drive Jan 02 15:50:25 any plans for supporting htc devices? Jan 02 15:53:08 Raydiation: if those can be run with opensource drivers, they're kind of supported already, if those needs closed binary drivers, you should be asking that question from htc I suppose Jan 02 15:53:25 Tm_T: ah yeah right Jan 02 15:56:59 im a bit worried about fragmentation of mobile os Jan 02 15:57:10 there should be 1 linux base Jan 02 15:57:25 and apps should run on all linux devices the same way Jan 02 15:58:21 that's what we try to acheive in meego ;) Jan 02 15:58:46 i hope for meegos success Jan 02 15:58:53 although im fine with android atm :) Jan 02 15:59:15 hows the developement going btw? Jan 02 15:59:18 Raydiation: someone already ported MeeGo to a htc device, but I can't recall the details Jan 02 16:00:11 is nokia going to release anything anytime soon? Jan 02 16:00:51 dunno - check engadget Jan 02 16:00:52 :P Jan 02 16:01:28 whats still missing? Jan 02 16:03:47 Stskeeps: what's up with the hardfp thingy? Jan 02 16:04:09 Venemo: solved the gcc problem so now it's just chewing Jan 02 16:04:47 Stskeeps: so with this stuff, floating point calculations will be just as fast as integer calculations? Jan 02 16:04:57 Venemo: it's a little different Jan 02 16:05:13 Raydiation: Nokia said in the keynote at Meego that they would be announcing in 2011 Jan 02 16:05:20 that is the latest official info, afaik Jan 02 16:05:22 do you understand if i use the terms floating point registers and integer registers? P Jan 02 16:05:25 :P Jan 02 16:05:28 and procedure calls Jan 02 16:05:54 Stskeeps: they are registers on a processor, designed to handle said data types, right? Jan 02 16:06:06 right Jan 02 16:06:38 jonnor: hm announcing but not deploying right? Jan 02 16:06:44 so, because there was no floating point registers on many arms, when you were sending floating point values to a procedure, you put them in integer registers instead, which is obviously slower Jan 02 16:07:16 Raydiation: they just said annoucing. Things might ship the day after the annoucement, or 2 years, who knows Jan 02 16:07:22 hardfp puts floating point values in floating point registers, which are faster, and you don't always have to move them forth and back to calculate floating point stuff Jan 02 16:07:41 so it's a performance benefit Jan 02 16:08:11 Stskeeps: right Jan 02 16:08:38 Stskeeps: so the point is that those registers will be used that were designed to work with fp numbers Jan 02 16:09:08 right, when calling other routines Jan 02 16:09:36 Stskeeps: so if I understand correctly, this will make fp calculations faster, yet calculations with simple integers still be faster obviously. is that right? Jan 02 16:10:06 nah, it'll just make some floating point stuff faster Jan 02 16:10:06 lol Jan 02 16:10:21 you have to see on assembly code level to understand the advantage :) Jan 02 16:10:22 man, u need saw this [i]once[/i] ;) Jan 02 16:10:39 hm? Jan 02 16:10:47 I to Venemo :) Jan 02 16:10:54 ah Jan 02 16:10:56 Stskeeps: so my point is; calculating with integers is generally faster than with fp numbers, right? Jan 02 16:10:58 Stskeeps: isn't the critical difference that the ABI is different? i.e. softfp code won't run on hardfp and vice versa ? Jan 02 16:11:02 saw code... Jan 02 16:11:15 berndhs: that's the critical difference, but you have to explain ABI differences Jan 02 16:11:25 berndhs: the performance is the reason Jan 02 16:11:39 sure Jan 02 16:11:59 yeah... but is meego not optimized well? Jan 02 16:12:24 Cotulla: there's still room for improvement :) Jan 02 16:12:43 but Qt is large Jan 02 16:13:23 is it laggy on N900 honestly? Jan 02 16:13:29 tell us truth :P Jan 02 16:13:41 Cotulla: yes, but less laggy with new gfx drivers Jan 02 16:14:04 Cotulla: even less laggy when installed to the devices's build-in eMMC instead of an SD card Jan 02 16:14:19 Cotulla: so all in all, the guys here will get it right :) Jan 02 16:15:39 the slowness isn't the platform's fault, at least Jan 02 16:16:16 hm? Jan 02 16:16:42 hopefully we'll see big strides within the next month Jan 02 16:16:55 Cotulla: plus the hardfp thing that I discussed with Stskeeps will also improve the performance greatly Jan 02 16:16:57 I just worry Qt is very big Jan 02 16:16:59 a lot of code Jan 02 16:17:00 and etc Jan 02 16:17:13 it was designed for PC primary isn't it> Jan 02 16:17:14 ? Jan 02 16:17:16 Cotulla: not really a problem, as it uses it very well Jan 02 16:17:26 CosmoHill: i've seen qt on a 200mhz arm device, so not really Jan 02 16:17:36 err, CosmoHill Jan 02 16:17:37 .. Jan 02 16:17:39 Cotulla: Jan 02 16:17:44 * CosmoHill tilts head Jan 02 16:18:41 but android on LEO with software render was much faster.... Jan 02 16:19:22 Cotulla: MTF is problematic when it comes to sw render as it wasn't designed for it Jan 02 16:19:38 it was designed for a GLESv2 device Jan 02 16:19:59 qt however is designed for a lot of different targets, but glesv2 helps a lot Jan 02 16:20:07 mtf being meego touch framework Jan 02 16:20:10 okay few days later I will check how is it :) Jan 02 16:20:52 at least after android looks all can be ported Jan 02 16:20:56 :P Jan 02 16:21:27 bad that no "sample" devices exist Jan 02 16:21:50 well, n900 Jan 02 16:21:50 :P Jan 02 16:22:33 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWtMLs3j09U&feature=player_embedded shows how good it could be Jan 02 16:22:49 is it 1.1? Jan 02 16:23:06 haha rotation almost like on WP7 Jan 02 16:23:13 Stskeeps: why the 'could'? Jan 02 16:23:40 Venemo: cos the 3d drivers aren't merged yet (we had a 'release holiday', so nothing got merged) Jan 02 16:23:49 oh Jan 02 16:24:08 well the stuff on the videa is blazing fast :) Jan 02 16:24:35 Stskeeps: I'm sure all these improvements when added together will make the OS nice to use :) Jan 02 16:26:58 hopefully Jan 02 16:29:20 Qt is full open source? Jan 02 16:29:27 yes Cotulla Jan 02 16:29:37 Cotulla: licensed under LGPL and GPL too Jan 02 16:29:51 so this EGL drawer also opended? Jan 02 16:31:27 well, yes, but libEGL/GLESv2 implementation is closed usually Jan 02 16:31:32 on ARM, that is Jan 02 16:32:37 so that driver on the video is also closed? Jan 02 16:33:10 it's closed, but redistributable Jan 02 16:33:33 so how can you merge it if its source is closed? Jan 02 16:34:07 Venemo: we have a non-oss section for redistributable binaries -- nothing in Trunk can rely on anything in non-oss though Jan 02 16:34:14 it's so funny to compile on device ^^ Jan 02 16:34:36 Stskeeps: understandable :) Jan 02 16:35:24 so we build apps towards the EGL/GLESv2 API (mesa, open source) and then replace with the closed bits at image build time Jan 02 16:36:15 interesting Jan 02 16:40:15 hm where I can find headers for libX11.so Jan 02 16:40:27 it present but no headers for it on device Jan 02 16:41:00 libX11-devel ? Jan 02 16:41:06 install it with zypper Jan 02 16:41:22 haha Jan 02 16:41:29 it's crazy\ Jan 02 16:41:46 Stskeeps: just out of curiosity, is there any "app manager" for MeeGo yet? Jan 02 16:41:53 Venemo: packagekit's there, some claim Jan 02 16:42:36 Stskeeps: I would guess it is not very integrated with the environment then Jan 02 16:42:55 Venemo: yeah.. i think the idea is something based on OCS Jan 02 16:43:02 Stskeeps: OCS=? Jan 02 16:43:43 http://mbatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/open-collaboration-services-and-libattica-on-meego/ Jan 02 16:43:50 thx Jan 02 16:46:10 Mat_Matan: ping Jan 02 16:46:21 pong Jan 02 16:49:07 pkgconfig(xcb) is needed by libX11-devel-1.3.3-2.58.armv7l Jan 02 16:49:11 which xcb? Jan 02 16:52:49 zypper in pkgconfig(xcb) Jan 02 16:52:55 you really need to get usb networking going Jan 02 16:54:15 yeah :( Jan 02 16:54:25 u know how? or have link? Jan 02 16:54:57 haha X11 develp installed Jan 02 16:54:58 :D Jan 02 16:55:53 g_ether's usually a good start Jan 02 16:57:01 how do you get onto shell? Jan 02 16:57:01 :P Jan 02 16:59:57 ADB Jan 02 16:59:59 :P Jan 02 17:01:36 lol my program compiled without errors :D Jan 02 17:03:36 hm can I shutdown meego ui? Jan 02 17:03:46 otherwise I got message "cannot connect to X server" Jan 02 17:15:10 hm request_firmware get files by default from which folder in meego? Jan 02 17:17:10 /lib/firmware Jan 02 17:17:49 there a lot of subfolders Jan 02 17:17:55 how right one is selected? Jan 02 17:18:05 i think it automatically searches them all Jan 02 17:18:12 ok Jan 02 17:24:03 is it possible to get more information somewhere, except "segmentation fault" label? Jan 02 17:27:35 haj! Jan 02 17:28:15 Cotulla: gdb and valgrind are very useful tools for debugging segfaults Jan 02 17:29:10 there no valgrind Jan 02 17:29:11 ok gdb Jan 02 17:34:02 you can get it to push out a core dump (there's a ulimit setting for this) on sigsegv Jan 02 17:34:24 yeha ^^ Jan 02 17:34:27 GDB working ^^ Jan 02 17:34:28 :D Jan 02 17:34:44 * lupine_85 wonders if he should stick meego on his phone yet Jan 02 17:34:47 ulimit -c unlimited Jan 02 17:35:22 it's been a long while since distributions dumped cores by default Jan 02 17:38:49 dunno Jan 02 17:39:00 gdb is better that I though Jan 02 18:28:17 ShadowJK: (or any chanop) would you please kick apt? I'd tell infobot to come back then Jan 02 18:28:44 Stskeeps: ^^^ Jan 02 18:30:15 ~botsnack Jan 02 18:30:15 DocScrutinizer: :) Jan 02 19:44:23 are there images you can test in a vm on intel core 2 duo laptop Jan 02 19:52:33 have you tried google Raydiation ? Jan 02 19:54:27 http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0/meego-v1.0-netbooks Jan 02 19:55:02 oops i forgot to mention that i wanted to test the handset images Jan 02 19:56:54 pupnik: is it possible to test handset version in a vm? Jan 02 19:57:41 yes it is possible Jan 02 20:03:31 pupnik: well how do you do this? Jan 02 20:05:02 i don't know Jan 02 20:06:24 Raydiation: check out the meego sdk Jan 02 20:46:07 evening Jan 02 20:46:12 evening lbt Jan 02 20:46:32 hi :) Jan 02 20:46:49 they're watching s TV show about beer.... ew Jan 02 20:47:03 * lbt has a nice glass of port :) Jan 02 20:54:53 * timeless_mbp pokes lbt with a stick Jan 02 21:10:09 Hi! Jan 02 21:10:37 Even if Meego is mainly built for Atom- CPU's, isn't it compatible with other CPU's also? Jan 02 21:11:05 Tried using task-moblin in Mandriva 2010.2 now & nothing happened when I logged in. Jan 02 21:11:15 It just kept on working an working and working......... Jan 02 21:11:28 http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=FAQ Jan 02 21:11:40 SSSE3 is a requirement Jan 02 21:12:08