**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 04 02:59:58 2011 Jan 04 04:07:27 hmm, seems the community obs is not publishing packages it builds or something... packages that where built 10 or so hours ago are still not available in a repository (in fact the entire repository they should end up in is still a 404) Jan 04 05:27:13 morning Jan 04 05:35:29 Hi Jan 04 05:42:01 sups? Jan 04 05:42:06 is meego out yet? Jan 04 05:42:55 Idk Jan 04 05:45:17 Hi Jan 04 05:45:40 hi Jan 04 05:46:59 clippy: what does 'out' mean to you? Jan 04 05:47:35 Weird question Jan 04 05:47:54 remember when we all thought ricky martin was gay, then he wasnt for a while, then finally about a decade later he came out... kinda like that, but in Internet time Jan 04 05:48:32 ok, feeding time is over. Jan 04 05:49:22 eeh Jan 04 05:49:54 Hi Jan 04 05:50:05 hi Jan 04 05:50:40 ... Jan 04 05:55:55 ..... Jan 04 05:56:08 .... Jan 04 05:56:18 So Jan 04 05:56:31 Soudesuka Jan 04 05:57:00 Uhhhhhhhhh Jan 04 05:57:59 .………… Jan 04 05:58:35 what is happening in here? Jan 04 05:58:40 don't have a UTF client here.... Jan 04 05:59:28 use telnet on cmd.exe on win xp Jan 04 05:59:35 no good markups T.T Jan 04 06:01:33 ping and version wont work here... Jan 04 06:02:42 Wats dat Jan 04 06:03:25 who dat Jan 04 06:03:34 Me Jan 04 06:04:40 ..... Jan 04 06:04:51 Later Jan 04 06:05:23 So meeego is out later? Jan 04 06:08:31 what do you mean with "out"? Jan 04 06:08:40 Myrtti: don't feed the troll Jan 04 06:09:06 there had been several versions of it for months... Jan 04 06:09:47 dm8tbr: but I'm bored waiting for my alarm to ring Jan 04 06:10:08 oh, ok nvm then :) Jan 04 06:10:42 Myrtti, i had defined out previously as such Jan 04 06:10:55 remember when we all thought ricky martin was gay, then he wasnt for a while, then finally about a decade later he came out... kinda like that, but in Internet time Jan 04 06:11:08 right Jan 04 06:11:48 well, it's out in that sense too, I suppose Jan 04 06:12:46 Thanks cool, looking forward to the CESpool this week in the home of the CESpool AKA vegas! Jan 04 06:24:29 Hey, did anyone look into whether the alarm clock worked on January 2nd mornign time? Jan 04 06:36:11 hi Jan 04 06:36:41 hi Jan 04 08:34:05 * lcuk ponders reopening bug 10874 since araujo mentioned merely flipping the UX does not bring in the applications Jan 04 08:34:20 hmm bug 10874 Jan 04 08:34:32 Stskeeps, bugbot missing? Jan 04 08:35:41 dunno Jan 04 08:37:30 dm8tbr: ^ Jan 04 08:37:33 hmm he dropped just over an hour ago Jan 04 08:53:42 Morning all, Happy New Year Jan 04 08:54:03 First day back, trying to remember how to use this computer thing Jan 04 08:54:22 you too, slaine Jan 04 08:54:28 *sigh* Jan 04 08:54:37 Stskeeps: did you get a good break ? Jan 04 08:55:03 slaine: was decent, though next year spending it somewhere far away from family sounds like a good idea ;) Jan 04 08:55:31 lol Jan 04 09:02:16 MeeGoBot: botsnack! Jan 04 09:02:18 * MeeGoBot beams Jan 04 09:02:47 * dm8tbr has to move the storage directory to some place that doesn't fill up spontaneusly *grmbl* Jan 04 09:03:51 dm8tbr, shouldn't the bot be operated from *.meego.com server? Jan 04 09:04:15 in a similar manner to how timeless_mbp is thinking of operating mxr.meego.com I expect Jan 04 09:04:18 lcuk: we don't have a shell yet for any of those, so not yet Jan 04 09:04:24 lcuk: the idea in the long run is to, though Jan 04 09:04:28 what he says Jan 04 09:04:33 lcuk: err Jan 04 09:04:36 cool Stskeeps Jan 04 09:04:40 mxr is currently not properly hosted Jan 04 09:04:47 oh "thinking" Jan 04 09:04:51 yes, that's correct Jan 04 09:04:55 timeless_mbp, I was on about your bug for requesting a VM from OSU (bug 11422) Jan 04 09:04:55 we're all thinking :) Jan 04 09:04:58 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11422 nor, Undecided, ---, michael.r.shaver, NEW, allocate vm at OSU for mxr.meego.com Jan 04 09:05:19 lcuk: lemme know when someone makes progress Jan 04 09:05:20 wouldnt a similar bug for the irc bots be wise? Jan 04 09:05:20 grr Jan 04 09:05:25 yeah Jan 04 09:05:31 imo it's the right thing to do Jan 04 09:05:37 but it shouldn't be a high priority, i want my box! Jan 04 09:05:46 haha Jan 04 09:05:46 How to get access to build.meego.com? Jan 04 09:06:19 morning all, good holidays? Jan 04 09:06:55 hi odin_, different holidays for myself. how were yours? Jan 04 09:11:27 hi lcuk for me great, back with some 2011 plans, but 1000km drive back from the mountains does take a little recovery Jan 04 09:12:08 odin_, it most certainly does, which mountains were you in amongst? Jan 04 09:13:09 lcuk, Switzerland/alps in a place called Alpex-des-Chaux Jan 04 09:14:04 somewhere around 1700m above sea level, above cloud under sun :) Jan 04 09:14:08 awesome, so were you practicing your yodeling, or more regular skiing/snowboarding? Jan 04 09:14:59 regular skiing and visiting friends/drinking and doing nothing :) Jan 04 09:17:32 so what did I miss in the past 2 weeks? Jan 04 09:20:16 hopefully lots of hacking on meego? Jan 04 09:20:42 it was christmas, so not really Jan 04 09:21:41 morning Stskeeps Jan 04 09:22:45 hello guys happy new year to all of you and your familys :) Jan 04 09:23:08 Happy New Year you there letic Jan 04 09:24:24 time to do some work, UK VAT rate change today 17.5% => 20% nice and austeric(sp) Jan 04 09:26:45 hum guess less people are going to shop to NI now... Jan 04 09:29:01 letic: that's a good thing Jan 04 09:29:02 maybe they are too dehydrated to walk "re; water-gate" Jan 04 09:29:21 especially seeing as I got all my kitchen appliances already ;) Jan 04 09:31:04 odin_: yeah well I am lucky enough to not have any disruption so far but it must be pretty annoying Jan 04 09:31:52 my wife is happy she left at noon all week last week for health and safety resaons Jan 04 09:32:09 /s/reasons/resaons/ Jan 04 09:33:04 slaine: come on now you have a nice Ikea in Ballymun what else do you need ? :P Jan 04 09:33:34 A range, a fridge freezer, and integrated dishwasher and an extractor fan Jan 04 09:34:20 saved a fortune getting those from NI Jan 04 09:34:44 * loft306 lights the fire and tossses the dead animal on it Jan 04 10:20:55 morning Jan 04 10:24:09 http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/04/0251238/The-Challenge-In-Delivering-Open-Source-GPU-Drivers Jan 04 10:24:11 morning CosmoHill \o Jan 04 10:24:57 does that refer to VIA? Jan 04 10:25:42 no, intel sandy bridge Jan 04 10:25:54 you could have just linked me to phonornix Jan 04 10:27:22 CosmoHill, why, there were multiple links and the /. article was cleaner titled and more descriptive (rather than hashkey urls) Jan 04 10:27:43 meh Jan 04 10:27:50 * CosmoHill sips his tea and wakes up Jan 04 10:28:13 imagine a beowulf cluster of open-source GPU's Jan 04 10:28:36 damn, what GPUs does my cluster have Jan 04 10:37:21 hi Jan 04 10:57:38 Hello ! I Installed meego sdk on Windows and have installed QEMU for netbook.Meego is running Perfectly fine,but when i try to run a sample Qt Application say Hello World following lines are displayed on console : Jan 04 10:57:42 Cleaning up remote leftovers first ... Jan 04 10:57:42 Initial cleanup done. Jan 04 10:57:43 Files to deploy: C:/Users/Zedstar/Documents/ScratchProjects/temp/rrpmbuild\temp-0.0.1-1.i586.rpm. Jan 04 10:57:43 Deployment finished. Jan 04 10:57:43 Starting remote application. Jan 04 10:57:43 access control disabled, clients can connect from any host Jan 04 11:03:59 ^^^and then Nothing Happens....Please Help..... Jan 04 11:04:20 have you searched the mailing list or forums? Jan 04 11:06:10 @CosmoHill:I have searched the forums but did not find any help.....I did ssh also into the meego QEMU....the binary is installed at /usr/local/bin ..... Jan 04 11:08:05 Afak: on ubuntu? Jan 04 11:08:26 hm. win. Jan 04 11:08:32 Ans5i : I have installed it to Windows 7 Jan 04 11:10:02 i did not get that far. Jan 04 11:12:14 Afak: so i could only guess. i would check target display settings first. Jan 04 11:13:24 there was btw testing button in creator running application settings. Jan 04 11:13:38 Afak: ^ Jan 04 11:18:26 Ans5i : Hmm..please tell me how to do that... Jan 04 11:18:27 Ans5i: perhaps the #meego-sdk channel would have people more familiar with the tools Jan 04 11:20:00 slaine, aren't all the same guys who are in -arm also here? Jan 04 11:20:19 not sure Jan 04 11:20:43 -sdk channel used to have people that worked on the sdk tools that might not be paying attention to here Jan 04 11:20:50 and since he is asking about the netbook image sdk on windows (something not very arm related) think here might be better? Jan 04 11:21:02 ahhh forget me Jan 04 11:21:04 * lcuk misread Jan 04 11:21:11 lcuk, I could never forget you Jan 04 11:21:15 ;) Jan 04 11:21:21 phoey Jan 04 11:21:37 * lcuk gets a different cup of coffee, that one didnt work Jan 04 11:21:56 hey slaine .o/ Jan 04 11:22:37 CosmoHill: Hey Cos, happy new year and all that Jan 04 11:22:42 likewise Jan 04 11:22:48 ta Jan 04 11:23:40 lets see if I can learn about shortest path algorithms by lunch Jan 04 11:31:30 Ok i ll try on meego-sdk Jan 04 12:01:17 hmm Jan 04 12:01:40 bug 440 Jan 04 12:01:43 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440 enh, Low, ---, sameo, ASSI, Unable to support ad-hoc mode for WiFi Jan 04 12:02:03 slaine: thanks for the updated script BTW Jan 04 12:02:26 Haven't done it yet Jan 04 12:02:53 arf read to fast :) Jan 04 12:02:55 Will be available to push it up tonight though (was sick most of the last week) Jan 04 12:04:05 great what don't you push it to the community OBS ? license issue ? Jan 04 12:05:04 is it possible to make an RPM that is basically a script that installs the driver? Jan 04 12:05:51 sorry I am a debian guy I just assume that would be possible with RPM as it is in DEB Jan 04 12:17:48 sorry CosmoHill letic Jan 04 12:17:48 Jan 04 12:17:54 way from keyboard Jan 04 12:19:11 The .spec file is basically a script that pulls down the driver, compiles up the kernel module and packages that into a binary rpm Jan 04 12:19:42 CosmoHill: unfortunately, there's nothing you can download from Broadcom that will just run, it has to be compiled Jan 04 12:19:57 hmm Jan 04 12:20:12 letic: I haven't had time to push this to the obs, I should probably look at that this week Jan 04 12:20:27 great stuff Jan 04 13:00:31 Hi. Can anyone point me at any instructions on how to install an application to run as a daemon? Ideally it should be able to be started at boot time. If this is possible then what would be the recommended way to allow a normal user to start/stop it as required? The principle reason being that it does not need a UI and having a blank box in the task switcher looks very odd. Jan 04 13:01:36 how long have you been using linux? Jan 04 13:02:43 CosmoHill: That to me? Jan 04 13:02:47 yes Jan 04 13:04:28 CosmoHill: Plenty time :) But I've little experience with packaging my own debs or rpms. Will meego allow me to install new init scripts? If that works then all I'd need is a simple control panel UI application that could be launched as neede.d Jan 04 13:04:30 i think you'd have to make the bootscript have +s so that anyone could run it as the root user but this opens you up to a security threat Jan 04 13:05:26 you will be able to install anything you want no any distro so long as you have sudo / su access Jan 04 13:05:41 what I would do is develop the application and bootscript without using rpm Jan 04 13:06:01 once it's at a stage where you want to distrobute it, then you start putting it into an RPM Jan 04 13:08:57 CosmoHill: That's pretty much the stage I'm at. My app runs just fine. Now I want to daemonize it. I guess I should investigate this bootscript you mention. Jan 04 13:09:05 g'morning everyone, I'm trying to package a library (wxWidgets) as an rpm. Ive got the spec file so it builds, and the buildroot contains all the files, but it's not creating an RPM and I don't see any errors. Anyone know how I can track down this issue? Jan 04 13:09:45 magius_pendragon: when you install them do you use DESTDIR? Jan 04 13:10:34 sturvey: I can't help you with turing something into a demon Jan 04 13:10:34 CosmoHill: I'm very new to packaging, so I'm not sure what you mean Jan 04 13:11:05 as for the bootscripts it's a matter of permissions, can the user stop an instance of the demon started by another user? Jan 04 13:11:35 magius_pendragon: Jan 04 13:11:50 you see the %install section in this spec file Jan 04 13:11:51 http://download.bluesquarelinux.co.uk/felix/SPECS/man-pages.spec Jan 04 13:12:11 it tells the installer to install it's the fakeroot location used by RPM Jan 04 13:12:29 s/it's/into/ Jan 04 13:12:30 CosmoHill meant: it tells the installer to install into the fakeroot location used by RPM Jan 04 13:12:32 CosmoHill: No problem with the actual daemonization part. Just the automatic launching and subsequent on-demand start/stop. It's only ever intended to be started/stopped by the default user. Jan 04 13:13:04 CosmoHill: the default works, because the installed files show up in RPM_BUILD_ROOT Jan 04 13:13:36 CosmoHill: it's just not creating an RPM after Jan 04 13:14:23 hmm, magius_pendragon delete the .rpm file if it ever created one and clean the build root directory Jan 04 13:14:57 CosmoHill: it never created one, that's what I'm trying to debug :). Problem is it's been taking a couple hours to build Jan 04 13:15:06 so I'm lothe to just clean it out Jan 04 13:15:11 sturvey: if the boot script belongs to a group that has the users in it then maybe they'd be able to start and stop it Jan 04 13:15:21 ah Jan 04 13:16:45 CosmoHill: Ok. Thanks for your thoughts. Time to dive in and muck about a bit I reckon. Jan 04 13:17:16 cool, I'll see if I can find you an example boot script Jan 04 13:17:31 CosmoHill: That would be helpful Jan 04 13:17:49 sturvey: there should be a bunch in /etc/init.d Jan 04 13:17:59 sturvey: http://download.bluesquarelinux.co.uk/felix/SPECS/distcc.spec Jan 04 13:18:17 albanc: ping? Jan 04 13:19:14 CosmoHill, magius_pendragon: Thanks. Jan 04 13:19:19 you're welcome Jan 04 13:19:47 sturvey: sorry, wasn't sure if you were looking at specs or the init script itself Jan 04 13:19:58 hmm, that might not work on meego since it was made for another distros Jan 04 13:20:12 magius_pendragon: The link CosmoHill sent has an init script in it. Jan 04 13:20:45 magius_pendragon: And handily rapidly educates me on RPM spec files :) Jan 04 13:20:54 sturvey: meego would use /etc/init.d/bootscript and /etc/rc#.d instead of /etc/rc.d/stuff that the spec file has Jan 04 13:21:10 you two might be interested in the template.spec in that directorry Jan 04 13:21:13 starting via initscript is probably not the preferred method Jan 04 13:21:19 sturvey: indeed. I'm still trying to figure them out Jan 04 13:21:45 CosmoHill: I've read over the template, and I'm actually using specify (it's in the packaging tutorials on the wiki). This same outline worked on my other package that I made, but not this one Jan 04 13:21:49 meego has tried to force a lot of stuff out of that model Jan 04 13:22:05 mwichmann: What would you suggest is the more meego way to start an app on boot? Jan 04 13:22:10 I've not seen the meego template Jan 04 13:22:23 sturvey: don't, do it using dbus activation :P Jan 04 13:22:35 the template.spec file there is the one I used to create probably 95% of the other .spec files in that directory Jan 04 13:23:10 what Stskeeps said Jan 04 13:23:14 CosmoHill: that's what I get for reading the wiki, huh? Jan 04 13:23:31 Stskeeps: That sounds interesting. Already using d-bus from some functionality. Can you describe d-bus activation in 20 words? Enough to give me something to get googling on? Jan 04 13:24:02 sturvey: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus Jan 04 13:24:28 a .service file instructs the d-bus daemon to launch a certain process when a message is sent to a certain well-known d-bus service name Jan 04 13:24:47 the message is sent to that process once it's taken that name Jan 04 13:26:55 Robot101: That just adds a layer of indirection. Who sends the first message? My app doesn't expose services locally so won't get a message to activate it. Jan 04 13:27:03 sturvey, http://www.mail-archive.com/meego-packaging@meego.com/msg00300.html might interest you... contains a init script skeleton... Jan 04 13:29:22 did all you people just get back from lunch at once? Jan 04 13:31:51 Stskeeps: Nope. It looks like an initscript is still the way forward. With some sort of simple start/stop control panel application. Jan 04 13:32:02 sturvey: what exactly are you planning on doing? :P Jan 04 13:32:24 auto start a program at session startup? Jan 04 13:33:06 Stskeeps: That's about it, yes. Jan 04 13:33:10 then you should use xdg autostart Jan 04 13:34:06 can anyone tell me how meego's x login uses Pam? it seems to be ignoring /etc/pam.d/system-auth Jan 04 13:34:29 Stskeeps: That looks more like what I need. Does MeeGo support autostart? Jan 04 13:34:36 yes Jan 04 13:35:15 Stskeeps: Awesome. Right. Enough chat, more play. Thanks everyone. Jan 04 13:35:24 sturvey: good luck Jan 04 13:36:29 Is it possible to run meego on a N900 without distroying the maemo5? Jan 04 13:36:38 yes Jan 04 13:36:44 in fact, that's the recommended way Jan 04 13:36:52 makes sense Jan 04 13:37:14 should I follow the normal manual for N900? Jan 04 13:37:37 yes Jan 04 13:42:45 Where does PulseAudio retsore system volume levels from ? I've noticed on some hardware that the default setting us muted, which I don't want Jan 04 13:42:57 System, not user Jan 04 13:43:30 well, that might be alsa's fault Jan 04 13:44:44 I could create an /etc/asound.state to set the initial values, assuming the system restores from that file during boot Jan 04 13:46:19 var/lib/alsa/asound.state should exist too? Jan 04 13:46:55 slaine: i'd use alsactl store instead of touching the file yourself Jan 04 13:48:02 magius_pendragon: yes Jan 04 13:48:07 Stskeeps: let me check Jan 04 13:48:15 X-Fade, pong Jan 04 13:48:41 anyone around familiar with the way meego handles login? Jan 04 13:48:51 Stskeeps: crap, left my meego box at home Jan 04 13:49:13 albanc: Your account should work now. And for rgs_ too. Jan 04 13:49:27 slaine: I have no /var/lib/alsa directory on mine (netbook image) Jan 04 13:49:31 magius_pendragon: meego-netbook ? Jan 04 13:49:35 slaine: yes Jan 04 13:49:38 (re the login) Jan 04 13:50:15 X-Fade, thanks! Jan 04 13:50:31 magius_pendragon: the uxlaunch application switches from root to , where is defined in /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch Jan 04 13:50:35 slaine: trying to do fingerprint login. It works on gnome-screensaver, and it works on console login, but not X for some reason. Jan 04 13:50:55 Someone was looking at this back in Nov Jan 04 13:51:08 slaine: it was me, I think. Jan 04 13:51:12 right Jan 04 13:51:22 so initial login still isn't working ? Jan 04 13:51:23 or at least I was looking at it back in nov. Jan 04 13:51:32 slaine: it works on a locked screen, but not initial login Jan 04 13:51:47 and it works at terminal login too as best as I recall Jan 04 13:51:49 'cause it's XScreensaver that handles the users password via the keyboard Jan 04 13:52:17 slaine: but locked screen works? Jan 04 13:52:34 which is why I'm confused Jan 04 13:54:20 magius_pendragon: so first boot login isn't working Jan 04 13:54:30 slaine: correct Jan 04 13:54:35 slaine: but everything else is Jan 04 13:54:44 slaine: including if I switch over to a VT and log in there Jan 04 13:54:54 VT login at first boot works Jan 04 13:55:47 i.e. it's not something that the UI session is starting which then subsequently makes the fingerprint logins work Jan 04 13:55:47 slaine: well, to clarify, I haven't tried disabling uxlaunch (not sure how, tbph). BUt if I siwtch over to VT1, fingerprint works at hte login prompt Jan 04 13:56:08 slaine: as best as I can tell, the UI session login is ignoring pam Jan 04 13:56:32 It's possible it's a bug Jan 04 13:57:00 slaine: I should test that though, how would I disable uxlaunch on boot, so I can make sure that it's not that? Jan 04 13:57:04 If you recall, initial login wasn't even coming up for me, even though the settings where there, I'd to disable and then reenable them Jan 04 13:57:19 magius_pendragon: hmmm, I forget Jan 04 13:57:24 it's been too long Jan 04 13:57:49 slaine: i do remember that it didn't come up for you ; are you saying it did once you toggled the setting? Jan 04 13:57:50 Easiest way to not have uxlaunch kick off at boot would be to just go into runlevel 3 Jan 04 13:58:10 magius_pendragon: Yes, it always came up with a wake from sleep, but never for a first boot Jan 04 13:58:27 I toggled the setting and rebooted and then it came up on boot Jan 04 14:00:21 slaine: how do I change runlevel on boot? Jan 04 14:01:04 press tab at the boot loader Jan 04 14:01:12 replace "quiet" with "3" Jan 04 14:01:15 Should just be a case of pressing the tab key to get the kernel command line and append " 3" Jan 04 14:01:24 CosmoHill: I don't get the bootloader (have been trying to figure out how to configure that too actually) Jan 04 14:01:26 wot he said Jan 04 14:01:48 magius_pendragon: it's quiet, you have to press the tab key a few times to hope you hit it :) Jan 04 14:01:55 slaine: lol ok Jan 04 14:02:06 Though, it's been a while since I've done it, it's possible it's changed on recent installs Jan 04 14:02:09 currently building something, but I'll let you know Jan 04 14:02:14 k Jan 04 14:04:26 speaking of, let's try this question. I was trying to throw some .spec's up on build.pub.meego.com, but I can't actually build it because it can't find the dependant packages. They exist (or at least, my netbook could install them), but I can't find them on the build site Jan 04 14:07:04 magius_pendragon: maybe they are pkgs you installed in addition to what's defined in meego netbook core? Jan 04 14:07:23 magius_pendragon: you can't depent on packages which are outside of what's defined to be in the netbook core, AFAIU Jan 04 14:07:55 sivang: that applies to meego compliance, not what can actually be built iiuc Jan 04 14:08:07 sivang: how can I check that? all I know is I was able to install it w/o adding any repos on the netbook Jan 04 14:09:04 villev: so build.pub allows you to depenend on any of the pkgs that are in the repos? (surrounds and whatnot) Jan 04 14:09:28 well, hopefully Jan 04 14:11:45 either way, the package isn't around Jan 04 14:11:56 (to be fair, I haven't found *anything* on pub) Jan 04 14:13:36 magius_pendragon: so the pkgs are missing off the available repos? Jan 04 14:14:17 sivang: pkgs aren't listed in build.pub.meego.com, so I can't build anything that has a build-dependancy Jan 04 14:14:27 they're in netbook section? Jan 04 14:14:37 Stskeeps: no idea Jan 04 14:16:06 Stskeeps: I don't know how to find out, but I didn't add a repository to zypper in order to install them (might even have been installed already) Jan 04 14:17:03 or zyppered in from netbook repo Jan 04 14:17:23 Stskeeps: as best as i can tell. afaik it's libusb1 Jan 04 14:18:25 that really should be in core, i would think Jan 04 14:18:37 magius_pendragon: That is in core. Jan 04 14:18:57 magius_pendragon: You just need to target repo in your project. Jan 04 14:18:59 X-Fade: it's failing to build as "unresolvable" on the site. I got it to build on netbook. Jan 04 14:19:19 magius_pendragon: What is your project? Jan 04 14:19:41 magius_pendragon: site == build server? Jan 04 14:19:50 X-Fade: site == build.pub.meego.com Jan 04 14:19:55 right Jan 04 14:20:02 magius_pendragon: what is your username? Jan 04 14:20:14 X-Fade: magiuspendragon it's home:magiuspendragon:fprint Jan 04 14:20:33 X-Fade: It's very possible I've no idea what I'm doing Jan 04 14:40:34 X-Fade: any idea what I"m doing wrong? Jan 04 14:41:29 magius_pendragon: I see the same issue, so it is not you. Jan 04 14:42:02 magius_pendragon: It does find libusb, but not libusb1. And both should be there. Jan 04 14:43:22 X-Fade: I'm not sure which one is required, I'm making a guess based on the configure output. Jan 04 14:43:39 magius_pendragon: Ah, let me check something. Jan 04 14:44:13 magius_pendragon: Yep. Found it .. it should be libusb-1.0 instead of libusb1 in your buildrequires. Jan 04 14:44:33 magius_pendragon: Then it builds. Well it fails on missing nss ;) Jan 04 14:44:34 thanks Jan 04 14:44:39 rofl Jan 04 14:44:57 magius_pendragon: But that is just because you don't specify it as buildrequires. Jan 04 14:45:05 I got it building on my netbook, i just did it a while ago and didn't remember what all I had to install to make it work Jan 04 14:45:32 I also couldn't get osc to work, or rather i don't know what's the correct api to make it work Jan 04 14:46:55 magius_pendragon: Builders are clean every time. So you need to specify what you need extra. Jan 04 14:47:22 X-Fade: no I understand that, I just have to let it keep failing and add stuff cuz I don't know what I added :p Jan 04 14:50:25 X-Fade: the community obs doesn't seem to be publishing the packages it built to repo.pub.meego.com anymore, any idea what is wrong? Jan 04 14:50:45 (something I build probably about 20 hours ago by now is still not there) Jan 04 14:52:57 is it possible to get a bootmanager to chose between meamo5 and meego? Jan 04 14:53:32 Txt_file: I've found some people poking around on dual booting, but idk what bootloader maemo5 uses Jan 04 14:55:58 can a FEA be closed in bugzilla? seems once the status is Accepted, it can't be changed anymore, right? Jan 04 14:56:37 I saw also a video on youtube with meego and meamo in dual boot ... that's why I ask Jan 04 14:58:51 Txt_file: I would assume it's possible. I can think of some hack-y ways to do it, but i don't know if there's a better solution Jan 04 15:00:09 I don't want something that breaks my phone Jan 04 15:00:38 paid enough money to get it 2 weeks ago Jan 04 15:00:40 MeeGo boots off the external memory card Jan 04 15:00:53 the internal memory is not touched Jan 04 15:01:28 to remove MeeGo you simply turn the phone off, remove the memory card and turn it back on Jan 04 15:02:39 Mek: I'll check it out. Jan 04 15:03:36 CosmoHill: I want a option to boot meego without flashing the kernel from a PC Jan 04 15:04:23 Txt_file: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot Jan 04 15:05:17 Stskeeps: thanks ... I'll read Jan 04 15:06:19 there's a lot of bold text on that page Jan 04 15:06:25 that you should read Jan 04 15:18:40 hey Myrtti Jan 04 15:18:57 ohai Jan 04 15:20:48 Mek: It should publish new builds now. Jan 04 15:21:39 X-Fade: only new builds or also those that were already built but not published? Jan 04 15:22:28 Mek: Only new builds, let me check if I can trigger publishing of older ones too. Jan 04 15:23:13 I can just trigger rebuilds of course... Jan 04 15:24:08 Mek: Yes, that you can :) Jan 04 15:28:13 Stskeeps: this manual sounds not very risky. thanks anyway but I have fear to try it. Jan 04 15:28:32 you should have :) Jan 04 15:29:05 could someone port grub to the N900 :D Jan 04 16:12:24 anybody know if this is a good enough book to understand modern mobile celluar communications? Jan 04 16:12:28 http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Networks-Second-Clint-Smith/dp/007226344X/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1294155415&sr=8-9 Jan 04 16:12:50 if a Nokian could recommend a resource, I'd be very happy, thanks in advance :) Jan 04 16:37:46 Stskeeps, read logs, so the kernel sources are sorted now? Jan 04 17:04:46 hm Jan 04 17:04:59 i am curious. if i run the chroot shouldnt all the hardware work? Jan 04 17:05:25 Macer: did you mount /dev? Jan 04 17:06:55 no. i havent tried go run it yet. i was just curious before i tried Jan 04 17:07:11 i want to see how far meego has come on the n900 Jan 04 17:07:15 Macer: all the hardware should work Jan 04 17:07:24 Macer: at least that's always been my experience with chroots :) Jan 04 17:07:27 i cant find the working/not working page Jan 04 17:07:36 how about running it native? Jan 04 17:08:00 meego.org is ... messed up with some valentines day banner :) Jan 04 17:08:40 Macer: I should point out, chroots use the host system kernel to talk to devices, so if something works in a chroot and doesn't work on native, it's probably kernel drivers that are at issue Jan 04 17:08:42 i want to see how far meego has gotten with the n900 hw Jan 04 17:09:01 i am sure. they had the same issues with mer Jan 04 17:10:37 i want to see what meego is missing. i am sure the same as nitdroid... cam, gps, and modem mic Jan 04 17:11:37 not really - we have cam support (just took our first still shot today), modem and mic works Jan 04 17:11:44 work is ongoing Jan 04 17:12:57 will there be an FOSS driver for the gps? Jan 04 17:13:12 last time I checked the whole thing was more or less TI confidential Jan 04 17:13:17 isn't it part of the modem? Jan 04 17:14:49 I was under the impression it would be an nl5350 like in the A5IT Jan 04 17:37:21 dm8tbr: yes NL53xx firmware and drivers are proprietary... and will not have a FOSS drivers from TI. Jan 04 17:37:50 dm8tbr: problem is (technically) that the gps actually sits behind the modem and not reachable for the ARM side kernel, afaik Jan 04 17:37:57 dm8tbr: so we send commands to some software in the modem instead Jan 04 17:39:01 dm8tbr: it's on my list to look into if we can get GPS support going, but licensing situation looks shitty (ie, might be a 'redistributable only for use on nokia equipment' etc) Jan 04 17:39:18 jayabharath: too bad and as Stskeeps just told the setup is different on n900 than on a5it this means there is no chance there will ever be a driver for it unless someone reverse engineers the existing android binaries :( Jan 04 17:39:43