**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 21 02:59:57 2011 Jan 21 04:10:09 Anyone here has experience with the emgd driver released for meego? Jan 21 04:16:04 vgrade1: ping Jan 21 06:07:28 anybody tell me something about obs work principle ,I mean how it add packages to repos . Jan 21 06:07:42 anybody can tell me something about obs work principle ? I mean how it add packages to repos . Jan 21 06:16:39 hlzxy: packages to build against (as in, your "target" repo) or built packages from your sources? Jan 21 06:21:44 Bostik： packages created by my sources code. as I know it store the build resualt in RPMS and SRPMS, and I see them in repos , I want to know how it do that Jan 21 06:25:50 well, under the hood it simply copies the result files into a separate path which again is served by any regular httpd Jan 21 06:27:13 there are a few steps involved since the files are built inside a worker instance but in principle that's all there is to it Jan 21 06:28:01 Bostik: could you tell somthing about it ,I mean some files or commands relate this process Jan 21 06:28:41 I just want to change the repos' structure. Jan 21 06:30:32 hmh, I thought there was some nice documentation on setting up your own OBS.. Jan 21 06:30:34 a minute Jan 21 06:30:36 i did a zypper source-install kernel.. it download all the rpms where does it unpack them? i dont see it at usr/src/kernels Jan 21 06:35:45 tcs-meego:maybe in /var/cache/zypp/ Jan 21 06:36:20 hlzxy: I was wrong, there isn't a concise overview but the component you need to look at is bs_publisher; it is responsible for pulling packages and placing them to the "visible" outside repos Jan 21 06:37:22 Bostik: thanks,i will see it right now Jan 21 06:37:40 hlzxy: the rpm is there in /var/cache/zypp .. but the unpacked stuff .. i cant find Jan 21 06:53:02 hi Jan 21 06:53:40 I am new to meego and OBS Jan 21 06:54:06 I am trying to create new branch in web OBS Jan 21 06:55:17 I have given project name as MeeGo:1.0:Core:Handset Jan 21 06:55:46 but the package name I am not able to get Jan 21 06:56:00 tell a bit about your setup? Jan 21 06:56:05 I want to get Gstreamer package Jan 21 06:57:18 Stskeeps: I have created a meego account and have an account in https://build.pub.meego.com Jan 21 06:58:11 Stskeeps:now at my home project i am trying to create new project Jan 21 07:00:25 please can anybody help me out? Jan 21 07:01:44 mkaran: so, you want to branch gstreamer package? Jan 21 07:01:57 yes Jan 21 07:02:10 Stskeeps:yes Jan 21 07:02:27 ok, so, community obs doesn't have a link to the main OBS so you need to import the src.rpm with osc importsrck Jan 21 07:02:30 importsrcpkg **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 21 07:52:16 2011 Jan 21 08:06:53 hi Jan 21 08:07:16 I have an ION platform (atom 330) Jan 21 08:07:53 I've read meego does not support nvidia but is there a hack or something I could patch to make it work? Jan 21 08:08:10 didn't find anytihng :( Jan 21 08:11:24 giGGler: recompile Xorg with XINERAMA Jan 21 08:11:34 lol Jan 21 08:11:42 i'm not kidding Jan 21 08:11:56 sure Jan 21 08:12:11 Hi,everyone, i want to replace the meego kernel(behind the /boot folder). but failed. could you tell me some info? thanks for your reply.. Jan 21 08:12:26 I thought meego was a OS for real life ppl Jan 21 08:12:58 abyway, how might I do that? Jan 21 08:13:05 giGGler: it's a platform, actually Jan 21 08:13:11 tyson_: make a new kernel Jan 21 08:13:42 stskeeps: a platform is not for users, is just for experts Jan 21 08:14:07 giGGler: well, it's a decent platform if most things work out of box, but nvidia has closed source binaries and we can't distribute those in meego Jan 21 08:14:40 bad news then Jan 21 08:15:02 people had it working by recompiling Xorg (and providing xinerama-enabled packages Jan 21 08:15:04 but jolicloud does support my netbook (asus 1201n) Jan 21 08:15:06 look at forum.meego.com Jan 21 08:15:10 ok Jan 21 08:15:13 I will Jan 21 08:15:21 thanks!!! Jan 21 08:15:36 Stskeeps: i will change some source code, such as driver code. so i just replace the meego kernel . Jan 21 08:15:47 tyson_: yes, grab a kernel package and modify that in your OBS Jan 21 08:16:35 anyone met this promblem when create obs with opensuse11.2 : http://pastebin.com/xi9A7WAA Jan 21 08:17:26 I am not running linux but osx Jan 21 08:22:52 Stskeeps: sorry, i don't use OBS. i used the runtime enviroment( meego sdk). and download the kernel-xxx.src.rpm. then copy the kernel.xxx.src.rpm to the runtime enviroment for compile the kernel.xxx.src.rpm. then i can find bzImage in the /arch/x86/boot. so i want to replace this. Jan 21 08:23:55 tyson_: you should build the rpm and best way to do this is by a OBS Jan 21 08:29:54 Stskeeps: you mean: i need uncompress the kernel.xxx.src.rpm. and then copy the uncompress things to obs. then let the obs compile. yer or no? Jan 21 08:30:22 tyson_: yes Jan 21 08:32:05 Stskeeos: obs's output is the rpms. how i find the meego kernel and replace it. Jan 21 08:33:12 it's in src.rpm Jan 21 08:33:51 hey, anybody here familiar with the meego packaging guidelines? Jan 21 08:34:02 I'm wondering about the version number scheme Jan 21 08:34:50 you're supposed to add any arbitrary postfixes like "beta" to the version field of the spec file, right? and you're supposed to separate them from the x.y.z version number with a tilde, right? Jan 21 08:34:59 so I'd have e.g. 0.1.5~beta1 Jan 21 08:35:12 but say I'm autobuilding from tags in a git repo Jan 21 08:35:26 I can't have a git tag with a ~ in id Jan 21 08:35:32 s/id/it/ Jan 21 08:35:33 poutsi meant: I can't have a git tag with a ~ in it Jan 21 08:36:11 it's bothersome :) Jan 21 08:36:53 poutsi, I thought you stored the versions inside changelogs and things? Jan 21 08:37:06 what happens when you build from tar.gz? Jan 21 08:37:54 probably all is fine and dandy Jan 21 08:38:16 but let's assume I can't Jan 21 08:38:45 and even if I could, I'd still like to have a package version === git tag 1-to-1 relationship Jan 21 08:44:04 Stskeeps: i don't know what's your mean. i tell you i want to do. i flashed the meego-handset-ia32-mtf-devel-1.1.80.6.20101116.1-sda.bin to the sd card( using the dd command). and i want to replace its kernel. i used the bzImage generate by runtime enviroment to replace the sda.bin kernel. Jan 21 08:44:48 Stskeeps: thanks your reply... Jan 21 08:45:16 tyson_: right, and this is done through installing a new kernel package and making a mic2 build Jan 21 08:51:44 Stskeeps: i chroot the sda.bin, and directry its bzImage used the runtime enviroment generated bzImage. but failed. Jan 21 08:52:10 if you're manually editing your image, you're doing it wrong Jan 21 08:57:49 Stskeeps: but if you want to repalace the meego kernel, i think you must manually. Jan 21 08:57:58 no, you should do that with mic .ks files Jan 21 08:59:49 if you use the ks file, you are not replace the meego kernel. you are generate all the image. althought the file system don't change. Jan 21 09:01:21 Stskeeps:i mean replace meego kernel. not generate the image again. Jan 21 09:01:38 Stskeeps:if you use the ks file, you are not replace the meego kernel. you are generate all the image. althought the file system don't change. Jan 21 09:01:53 meego kernel comes in a .rpm. Jan 21 09:02:00 that is installed into a image. Jan 21 09:03:32 Stskeeps: linux=kernel image+file system. the same as meego. Jan 21 09:04:16 you're not paying attention.. :P meego kernel is usually (for x86) in /boot/vmlinuz* and that is installed when file system is made Jan 21 09:05:48 * Stskeeps goes back to doing some work Jan 21 09:06:31 Stskeeps: yes, i want to replace the /boot/vmlinuz*. so i compile the meego kernel. and generate the bzImage. it is vmlinuz. Jan 21 09:06:56 it's actually a bzImage, name is just weird. Jan 21 09:08:50 Stskeeps: yes. i compile the kernel.xxx.src.rpm. output is bzImage. so i think i can replace the bzImage in the sda.bin ..but failed. Jan 21 09:39:42 Stskeeps: i fixed it Jan 21 09:42:13 stskeeps: ping Jan 21 09:42:17 pong Jan 21 09:53:41 Stskeeps: go home..see you Jan 21 11:08:37 who wants sandwiches, I am heading to the shop? Jan 21 11:10:55 BLT please Jan 21 11:14:45 CosmoHill, roger, anyone else? Jan 21 12:24:29 anyone here know anything about ofono? Jan 21 12:30:22 What information was needed from oFono? Jan 21 12:30:41 I want to know how one tells ofono cell broadcast code which cell broadcast channel we are interested in Jan 21 12:30:43 how does that work? Jan 21 12:34:54 jonwil: sorry, haven't checked that one out so I think I will only confuse you. Try #ofono channel. I think there you will get better answers. Jan 21 12:38:52 Hello Jan 21 12:39:21 is there any place/site where to but MeeGo stuff like T-Shirts, muggs, towels? Jan 21 12:39:28 but - buy * Jan 21 13:00:25 hiya all Jan 21 13:00:54 hi Jan 21 13:01:12 Ia m trying to install meego on a 1201n (ION) netbook Jan 21 13:01:37 MeeGo currently doesn't support Nvidia graphics Jan 21 13:01:42 the installation showed an unsuporteg card error but run smoothly Jan 21 13:02:13 I have a guide for moblin to recompile proprietary drivers for moblin Jan 21 13:02:32 good luck with that Jan 21 13:02:49 well Jan 21 13:02:55 the first thing is to boot in text mode Jan 21 13:03:02 i couldn't Jan 21 13:03:12 i got a boot: prompt Jan 21 13:03:26 when you see the boot loader, press escapse, edit the boot option to replace "quiet" with "3" Jan 21 13:04:00 sorry to say that but I did, but then boot: prompt Jan 21 13:05:01 after BIOS startup I press esc like crazy Jan 21 13:08:20 am I wasting my time? Jan 21 13:08:32 do you see the boot loader at all? Jan 21 13:08:47 not yet Jan 21 13:08:57 it's a big blue screen with white text Jan 21 13:09:03 it sounds like it might not have installed that Jan 21 13:09:09 old-bios like? Jan 21 13:10:50 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Jan 21 13:10:56 I think I catch it Jan 21 13:11:09 Press [tab] to edit options Jan 21 13:11:15 is that screen? Jan 21 13:11:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOwosIZrcho Jan 21 13:11:24 yes Jan 21 13:11:26 that's it Jan 21 13:11:40 thhat video has a pic of the boot loader in it Jan 21 13:11:42 back in 20 Jan 21 13:11:47 ok Jan 21 13:11:49 znx Jan 21 13:20:37 is meego-sdk fully working on ubuntu 10.04 64bit? Jan 21 13:28:44 well at least someone is listening to my ideas. after posting about this last year now apple have a patent for it http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/apple_touchscreen_mouse_patent_filing/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVqdfFdL3Q Jan 21 13:31:25 * CosmoHill is updating the IRC guide lines Jan 21 13:31:40 * CosmoHill is also bleeding, brb Jan 21 13:32:36 cool CosmoHill Jan 21 13:36:40 * lcuk thinks its weekend already Jan 21 13:38:12 Cosmohill: i am trying to do something similar to what giGGLer is trying to do .. i tried getting the 2.6.37-6.10 kernel source and made the nvidiafb as a module.. and we are in text mode now.. i modprobed nvidiafb .. how do i start the display ? Jan 21 13:39:26 * '''Be Patient''': Folks might not be around when you ask a question so wait a while for someone to speak before leaving. Jan 21 13:39:31 how does that sound? Jan 21 13:39:51 tcs-meego: if you type "startx" you will get TWM Jan 21 13:40:02 if you want to fully boot meego type "init 5" Jan 21 13:40:07 this might cause your computer to hang tho Jan 21 13:42:28 lcuk: what do you think of these two additions to the IRC guidelines? Jan 21 13:42:29 # Be Patient: Folks might not be around when you ask a question so wait a while for someone to speak before leaving. Jan 21 13:42:29 # Don't Private Message: Ask permission before you send someone a private message (PM) as not everyone likes them. Jan 21 13:43:05 CosmoHill, "Investigate first where possible" Jan 21 13:43:10 * RST38h does not understand the "do not pm" thing Jan 21 13:43:59 my reasoning is that if people ask in public and get answers in public, instead of private message, this can be found by people in future and learn from it Jan 21 13:44:31 RST38h: is it the wording? Jan 21 13:44:51 CosmoHill, in a room of 500 people, PM random folks doesn't usually happen anyway Jan 21 13:45:06 No, the rule itself. If I do not want you to PM me, I will /ignore MSGS Jan 21 13:45:14 no need ot ask Jan 21 13:47:09 "* '''Don't Private Message''': Ask permission before you send someone a private message (PM) as not everyone likes them. Also by keeping it in public others with similar issues can see the solution you were given." Jan 21 13:48:07 lcuk: from my experisnce you say one or two helpful things to a person who is new to IRC and they PM you Jan 21 13:48:30 not all of them but some do, often saying they don't want to look stupid in th channel Jan 21 13:48:40 speaking of which, can you stop PMing me :P Jan 21 13:48:55 never! Jan 21 13:50:34 * CosmoHill hits "save changes" then wonders off Jan 21 13:50:37 on big channels that are limited to mostly support issues, discouraging PM's is a good policy Jan 21 13:51:08 I've seen countless cases of the helper actually not helping and being malicious in pm Jan 21 13:52:32 I'm thinking of starting to log #lfs-support since the issues people have seem to repeat themselfs Jan 21 13:53:31 and if the answers are in PMs then others won't get help Jan 21 13:53:36 and will come into the channel and ask the same question Jan 21 13:55:06 CosmoHill, yes, support issues tend to come in waves Jan 21 13:56:27 "Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being askedfor permission to do so first." Jan 21 13:57:22 ++ Jan 21 13:57:26 ++ Jan 21 13:57:29 ++ Jan 21 13:57:33 that's slightly more than a bullet point Jan 21 13:57:57 I think that should be added under the bullet points for guide lines tho Jan 21 14:00:20 tarrar Jan 21 14:02:39 that's directly from the Ubuntu bot Jan 21 14:02:43 btw Jan 21 14:04:15 Myrtti, cool, since its not from your own fine hand, perhaps submit a typo/space correction "being askedfor" Jan 21 14:05:07 good point Jan 21 14:06:25 lcuk: looks like some of the bots are out of sync, the main bot has it right Jan 21 14:07:00 heh, PM the botmaster then and tell him his PM message is out of sync Jan 21 14:07:04 lcuk: or it could be my copypaste typo Jan 21 14:07:16 yeah, it is Jan 21 14:07:43 how is your shoulder today? Jan 21 14:08:11 better than yesterday, still not totally ok Jan 21 14:08:39 Ah, hello Myrtti Jan 21 14:32:02 CosmoHill: please send IRC guidelines past meego-community before altering them Jan 21 14:47:05 Hi - am excited as you like. I got a new s10-3t. want to get meego on, but having issues with partition resizing. Looks like it has 4 primary partitions on it, but they all show as ntfs and all show 0MB. anyone else had issues like this? no joy googling (for me anyways. any help much appreciated. Jan 21 14:48:02 amorphous_, during the install I think it defaults to just filling the disk? Jan 21 14:50:52 lcuk: , it wasn't having that and I didn't really want to kill the win setup. think default was remove linux partitions. either way I was asking to shrink partition & use free space. Jan 21 14:51:07 no gparted either :( Jan 21 14:51:44 amorphous_, not sure then, there does not seem to be an NTFS driver available either (which I assume would be needed to shrink windows) Jan 21 14:52:17 best I can suggest is burn yourself recovery disk set (if such an option exists) Jan 21 14:52:26 :) then find a way to make it work Jan 21 14:52:39 Hmmm... Jan 21 14:52:51 < definately like 'instant'! Jan 21 14:53:05 ok - thanks lcuk Jan 21 14:53:07 :) Jan 21 14:53:23 amorphous_, well I just wiped out the windows install at the conf when we got meego devices Jan 21 14:53:44 never ran Windows, nothing to miss :) Jan 21 14:54:03 also qt seems to run really slow in windows on the ideapad Jan 21 14:54:24 at the conf there were demonstrations and the versions of same app on even the n8 ran faster Jan 21 14:54:28 * lcuk giggled at that Jan 21 15:02:02 lcuk: didn't really want to touch win, but didn't want to brok it either... maybe sell it on one day... ;) Jan 21 15:02:10 *bork Jan 21 15:03:28 amorphous_, then burn recovery disk set Jan 21 15:03:51 was it a conference device, ie principle purpose to have a wander round meego? Jan 21 15:05:36 yeah (i think so) just to check it out. I been ubuntu for years, redhat before (but must be pushing 8 years?) but still just a user really Jan 21 15:05:51 just started uni and wanting to get into dev Jan 21 15:06:02 amorphous_, cool stuff Jan 21 15:06:09 so wanted to have a look with a view to becoming useful Jan 21 15:07:24 recovery disk set, is that an option inside win? and do you know if i can do it to a HDD? sorry just after a pointer then i'll leave u alone... Jan 21 15:08:24 amorphous_, the only windows machine in our house offers to burn recovery disks, I thought that was standard practice now Jan 21 15:08:55 ok i'll venture into the the land of morder... :( Jan 21 15:09:01 * lcuk should look more closely at Windows Jan 21 15:09:30 sure burning is an option on win boxes that don't come with cds, Jan 21 15:09:44 but it's a little harder on a netbook with no optical drive.... Jan 21 15:09:53 yep! Jan 21 15:10:48 mwichmann, i had that problem 2 years ago with my lenovo x41 Jan 21 15:10:59 easily solved with a usb burner Jan 21 15:11:00 external drives sometimes work (and sometimes too slow thru usb), but that's something you hafta pay for :( Jan 21 15:11:30 well now - the �30 or whatever it was was worth it Jan 21 15:11:43 since on the rare occasions need a cd/dvd its there :) Jan 21 15:11:44 I'd think so Jan 21 15:16:04 I didn't find any useful information about it on the net. I was wondering if an improvement of the contacts for fitting more fields of the vcard format is planned (with improvement I'm referring to the actual maemo software). Anyone knows anything about it? Jan 21 15:47:19 WANTED: (serious request) Macro photos of your monitor taken with your phone. http://bit.ly/hxYJxS #rt #meego http://twitter.com/lcuk/status/28473859623620610 Jan 21 15:52:26 lcuk, can I take them with my 7D? :P Jan 21 15:52:49 GAN900, yes actually Jan 21 15:53:03 if you hold directly on the screen, it will be an interesting comparison Jan 21 15:53:32 i want to see just how focusable things are with phone flat on the surface Jan 21 15:53:36 my own testing isn't enough Jan 21 15:54:32 * lcuk trying to confirm hypothosis Jan 21 16:59:10 join kde-brasil Jan 21 17:18:44 When the kernel will be upgraded to 2.6.37? Is there any schedule for kernel releases on MeeGo? Jan 21 17:19:20 barroca, http://wiki.meego.com/Core_OS_Program/Kernel_policy Jan 21 17:20:11 andre__:thanks, some times the search engines doesn't work as expected :-) Jan 21 17:35:22 andre__: what are the relevant platforms the wiki is refering to? Jan 21 17:35:32 ion? Jan 21 17:39:42 lcuk: what's this about photos of monitors? Jan 21 17:41:24 could someone explain this: " it has become clear that we have several hardware vendors/devices that are relevant for MeeGo, but for which the supporting code is not upstream yet"plz" Jan 21 17:41:33 its on the wiki Jan 21 17:41:45 giGGler: meego works on the Nokia n900 Jan 21 17:41:57 what needed explaining? Jan 21 17:41:59 it could be great to know if ion is on the list Jan 21 17:42:13 Nvidia (and therefore ION) is not supported Jan 21 17:42:20 CosmoHill, for some definitions of "works". Jan 21 17:42:47 a loose definiion Jan 21 17:42:50 i know, but just wonder if it's on the roadmap Jan 21 17:43:52 giGGler: not sure Jan 21 17:43:53 znx Jan 21 17:43:57 Stskeeps: sorry about editin, i didn't know Jan 21 17:44:09 i have tried jolicloud today and... well Jan 21 17:44:20 it degraded very quickly Jan 21 17:44:39 just opened twitter (cjromium, in fact) and typing is slow :( Jan 21 17:45:15 I just know a little about meeGo but looks the only decent challenger Jan 21 17:45:52 osx runs smoothly on the same machine Jan 21 17:47:06 but just wanted a fastboot/low battery usage/simple OS Jan 21 17:47:12 to dualboot Jan 21 17:47:29 :( Jan 21 17:51:33 holy shit!!! Jan 21 17:51:54 plugged the powercord using jolicloud and it runs smooth Jan 21 17:52:24 that sounds like the power policies aren't quite sane Jan 21 17:52:39 cpu speed way down when on battery? Jan 21 17:57:13 not sure cpu Jan 21 17:57:34 gonna get to jolicloud support Jan 21 17:57:38 l8r Jan 21 17:58:34 I'm still trying to find out what parts of jolicloud are open source, and what's just a proprietary layer on top. Jan 21 18:31:26 Hi, do we have any meego enabled mobile phones in the market, that are not N900 and the Aava based ones? Jan 21 18:32:35 not currently Jan 21 18:37:49 The WeTab has a SIM slot, but I think that the 3G network is intended to be used for data, as with the Kindle, rather than for voice. Jan 21 18:39:23 Alison_Chaiken, also side talkin will be a bit harsh Jan 21 18:44:35 lcuk, I'm eagerly awaiting the day when I see someone holding a laptop to their ear. Jan 21 18:49:13 Alison_Chaiken, I believe people said the same when Nokia released the Booklet 3g Jan 21 18:50:52 CosmoHill, the photos of monitor thing Jan 21 18:51:10 its trying to see just how close macro zoom is on different devices Jan 21 18:51:44 theres already some posts with actual readable text, the macro on MohammadAG's phone is quite cool actually Jan 21 18:51:46 lcuk: I have a Nokia 6220 Classic and Nokia D70, would you like them? Jan 21 18:51:51 sure Jan 21 18:51:57 its just for giggles anyway Jan 21 18:52:08 the hard work will come afterwards Jan 21 18:52:47 :) Jan 21 18:54:06 * lcuk ate KFC and now fat Jan 21 18:54:16 :S KFC Jan 21 18:55:02 lcuk: okay maybe trying my 70 ~ 300mm macro lens was a bit stupid Jan 21 18:55:19 heh Jan 21 18:55:23 So, as qgil will notice, our new Nokia facility in Sunnyvale CA has many large public displays showing PR material and running Win7. I notice that they're Eee PCs with USB drives and 1080i monitors . . . and they aren't in locked cases! Jan 21 18:55:38 you press focus and it pokes the monitor Jan 21 18:55:53 Alison_Chaiken, when you grab one of them, WATCH THE DOORS. Jan 21 18:56:23 Alison_Chaiken, but meego should run on them, netbook is quite happy on eee class machines Jan 21 18:56:38 lcuk, I was more thinking about UXlauncher on every one of them. Do we have a meego animation to show? Jan 21 18:56:39 handset builds though aren't as usable Jan 21 18:56:52 there was a great one at the conf actually Jan 21 18:57:23 lcuk, I'm running handset on WeTab, and yeah, it doesn't look so great. Oh, I forgot to mention, the Samsung 1080i displays are touchscreens! Jan 21 18:57:27 and afaik theres a meego demo film/animation on netbook install Jan 21 18:58:00 Alison_Chaiken, yeah - i have a 1080p allinone packard bell unit here Jan 21 18:58:03 multitouch Jan 21 18:58:23 lcuk, it's time for a MeeGo black ops team! Ninja-suited commandos with USB drives in leather belt-mounted sheaths. Jan 21 18:58:37 lovely things, but for some reason I cannot draw boobies on it! Jan 21 18:59:00 Alison_Chaiken, heh, you and quim in ninja silks sounds amusing :D Jan 21 18:59:22 you would have to have one of you drop in from the ceiling :D Jan 21 18:59:29 lcuk, perhaps quim and I should dress as MeeGons instead. But are any of the MeeGons girls? Jan 21 18:59:45 there's a few, i think Jan 21 19:00:06 Yes lcuk, quim and I will crawl to the Eee PCs through the ventilation ducts rather than take the stairs as we usually do. Jan 21 19:00:12 :D Jan 21 19:00:50 whatever you do, do not have a red shirt meegon! Jan 21 19:02:32 lcuk: top 3 files; Nokia_ and Nikon_: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/meego/ Jan 21 19:03:09 CosmoHill, can you stick em on the forum please, I am hunting for something Jan 21 19:03:16 okay Jan 21 19:03:25 they'll be links as they are too big to post as imamges Jan 21 19:03:27 *images Jan 21 19:03:39 [img]http://url[/img] Jan 21 19:03:46 and it shows just like the others Jan 21 19:04:14 okay but it will be huge Jan 21 19:07:45 ahh found it! Jan 21 19:08:17 Alison_Chaiken, crawling through the jefferies tubes: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qLaw2pbdYIk/TGPqlwHU5II/AAAAAAAAAgw/PIbZPlPrMfk/s1600/ExpendableSmall.jpg Jan 21 19:08:39 * lcuk thinks those are awesome star trek meegons Jan 21 19:15:25 lcuk: uploaded and posted them to the forum with small previews, if you click on them you get the orginal image Jan 21 19:16:26 ooh cool beans :D those are almost readable Jan 21 19:16:45 and certainly gather plenty of contrast Jan 21 19:17:18 CosmoHill, was surprised that the word "open" is actually readable on MohammadAG's Jan 21 19:17:23 almost readable? you're not looking at mine then :p Jan 21 19:17:27 i am Jan 21 19:17:32 using vnc I get low color Jan 21 19:17:34 yeah me to Jan 21 19:18:05 and compared to the others I can make out word groupings on yours Jan 21 19:18:56 I have another one I took bout 4cm away from the screen Jan 21 19:19:09 someone suggested redoing the experiment but using a lattice/grid photo for comparable shots, but its not that specific Jan 21 19:19:21 CosmoHill, ahh well, you see 4cm away is too far ;) Jan 21 19:19:33 ah I see what you're aiming at Jan 21 19:19:54 you want to use the n900 as a bluetooth mouse don't you? Jan 21 19:20:03 :) Jan 21 19:20:18 or whatever device MohammadAG has Jan 21 19:20:27 and I want to see if any existing devices can happily macro zoom to flat surface Jan 21 19:20:32 N86 Jan 21 19:20:48 I lurk a lot :p Jan 21 19:20:51 or whether workable images can come out of them Jan 21 19:21:20 on my desk with my n900, I can turn on the red privacy light and see woodgrain moving as I move the mouse Jan 21 19:21:23 err phone Jan 21 19:21:41 I duno what nokias my dad has but they're cheapish business ones Jan 21 19:23:09 CosmoHill, tracy tried it with her ancient 7373 Jan 21 19:23:22 no macro or anything :P Jan 21 19:23:48 Interested in a K850i shot as well lcuk? Jan 21 19:24:00 I got something else for you lcuk but I need to strip the audio Jan 21 19:24:03 anidel, for sure! the more the merrier Jan 21 19:24:13 you said Nokia phones, so wasn't sure Jan 21 19:24:25 * lcuk never seen just how close macro zoom can get on any device Jan 21 19:24:33 yeah, i should edit that slightly Jan 21 19:24:39 :) Jan 21 19:25:08 ta, done Jan 21 19:26:17 at least 2 new meego.com signups today just to post on that thread :P Jan 21 19:27:33 I hate to ask, but, why is meego sooo slow? I was using it on my old Eee 4G, which I'm converting to a tablet, but MeeGo just wont keep up. The specs are plenty sufficient. Is there anything that I can do to get reasonable speeds? It was the latest 1.1.80 as of yesterday. Jan 21 19:27:48 IanWizard: do you have the power plugged in? Jan 21 19:27:49 IanWizard: debugging kernel probably carries a bit reason Jan 21 19:27:58 posted lcuk Jan 21 19:28:00 since you're on 1.1.80 Jan 21 19:28:00 in the forum Jan 21 19:28:27 hmm IanWizard - do you mean the netbook build? where specifically are you noticing it slow? Jan 21 19:28:33 CosmoHill, no, I didn't. Jan 21 19:28:51 Stskeeps: I went into the touchscreen not working after the 1st reboot bug yesterday :( Jan 21 19:28:53 Stskeeps, yea, but I was having this on the standard releases too. Jan 21 19:29:03 IanWizard: what specs of device? Jan 21 19:29:08 and what vertical? Jan 21 19:29:11 IanWizard, specific slow areas Jan 21 19:29:14 anidel: yeah, it's happening more often now Jan 21 19:29:33 lcuk, yes, the netbook build, and the interface (the bit that actually is meego) is what was slow Jan 21 19:30:15 it's either 1gb, or 512 of ram, and a 800Mhz cpu Jan 21 19:30:27 ssse3? Jan 21 19:30:41 ian, slow bouncy wavey bits, or slow opening different tabs Jan 21 19:30:46 ie graphics slow or cpu slow Jan 21 19:30:53 the system itself was just fine, but the UI took forever to load a different tab Jan 21 19:31:16 cpu/mem/disk Jan 21 19:31:23 did this specifically come on Jan 21 19:31:27 or has it always done this Jan 21 19:31:33 animations were snappy too, but it took forever to do anything Jan 21 19:32:04 lcuk, IIRC it was quicker with 1.0, I guess it's since 1.1 Jan 21 19:32:05 wmarone, hi Jan 21 19:32:35 IanWizard, my missus complained the other day about EVERYTHING taking ages - it turned out her disk had a corruption, perhaps check theres no gremlins being raised in dmesg Jan 21 19:33:02 anidel, what is that picture of Jan 21 19:33:09 monitor, as you said Jan 21 19:33:10 from the other side of the room it looks like the sharing icon Jan 21 19:33:20 yeah, but what was on the screen at the time Jan 21 19:33:24 no it's just some random black text on white Jan 21 19:33:33 lcuk: incase you're interested, I took a video with my 6220C of me moving it about the screen Jan 21 19:33:44 cool Jan 21 19:33:47 but I am wondering why you need those? Jan 21 19:34:02 I mean if you put your phone ON the screen.. what can focus that close? Jan 21 19:34:04 anidel, interest in camera optics and how it picks up things Jan 21 19:34:04 anidel: he's hoping we've all forgotten to remove geotagging Jan 21 19:34:16 anidel, putting phone on your desk is the aim Jan 21 19:34:18 to use as a mouse Jan 21 19:34:21 @CosmoHill: glad I have no GPS in that phone then :D Jan 21 19:34:30 lcuk: ah I see Jan 21 19:34:31 but for comparison easier talking about monitor Jan 21 19:34:38 yup Jan 21 19:34:38 I only found out today my phone supports geotagging :/ Jan 21 19:34:48 * lcuk goes and beers anyway Jan 21 19:34:58 lcuk, it may be the disk, I'll try flashing to internal Jan 21 19:34:59 CosmoHill, >> forum Jan 21 19:35:06 lcuk: will do Jan 21 19:35:20 IanWizard, \o come back and let us know if theres a difference Jan 21 19:49:28 if I wanted to build a kernel module, what sources should I build against? where would I get them? Jan 21 19:55:45 magius_pendragon, I almost sent you to the gitorious site for the kernel then Jan 21 19:56:03 but kernels changed a bit - specifically which device are you wanting to build for Jan 21 19:57:57 intel atom, netbook image Jan 21 20:04:39 pointing to a git repo for headers for out-of-tree module compiling is always wrong anyway Jan 21 20:04:51