**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 28 02:59:56 2011 Jan 28 07:10:05 hey does anyone have a reference to how to work with RPMs , I don't mean how to make a spec file I mean workflow Jan 28 07:10:17 in deb based systems i do Jan 28 07:10:57 edit file; save file; dkg-buildpackage ; cd.. ; scp *.deb -> device ; dpkg -i *.deb Jan 28 07:10:57 kavacha: sec Jan 28 07:11:48 http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.0/Packaging/Tutorial - and a OBS always helps Jan 28 07:14:32 Hello, does Meego have any Qt media app already included? Jan 28 07:17:57 tudovio: yes, handset has an audio and video player Jan 28 07:19:20 thanks alterego! any camera app developed using QtM? Jan 28 07:20:17 tudovio: i believe that's being worked on Jan 28 07:20:22 Stskeeps: thanks but I am looking for something on incremental development : Surely I dont have to create a tar file every time I want to package, If i edit my sources I just want to be able to build those sources into a package to install on the device; not to have to "clean them -> tar them > copy to some suitable rpmbuild location and then build" Jan 28 07:20:29 or is there an alternative Jan 28 07:20:39 kavacha: so, what exactly do you want to do? develop qt apps? Jan 28 07:21:10 some times, I know madde, but some of my work requires hardware Jan 28 07:21:37 ARM or ia32? Jan 28 07:21:44 arm Jan 28 07:21:51 or ia32 Jan 28 07:21:55 now :) Jan 28 07:22:34 ok, then i would recommend getting an OBS setup/account and use 'osc chroot' for incremental development, it gives you a chroot with cross compilers and feels like a fast ARM machine for building Jan 28 07:25:40 Stskeeps: It looks that the QtM API's are still under testing. Do ypu know about any presence of phonon at this status? or they dropped it Jan 28 07:26:02 afaik phonon is dropped Jan 28 07:26:40 tudovio: best to ask on meego mailing list i think :) Jan 28 07:26:44 Yeah, no phonon, use Qt Multimedia Jan 28 07:26:59 Or gst directly if you wish Jan 28 07:27:28 Also, the camera app I believe is being done in QtQuick/Qml, not standard Qt or MTF Jan 28 07:32:37 Stskeeps: thanks ! so that is my new scratchbox :) Jan 28 07:32:55 yes, except it doesn't screw up your mind Jan 28 07:32:55 :P Jan 28 07:33:11 thanks! firstly, i need to know the current Meego media applications based on QtM api's, and then to analyse the QtM status, what is already done and what I can use for development Jan 28 07:33:16 :D Jan 28 07:37:47 but I still have the issue, if I edit my binary and a couple of configuration files I want to get these on the device, how can I just package these from the source dir, without manually having to tar the source dir first Jan 28 07:38:16 aka what is the dpkg-buildpackage equivalent Jan 28 07:39:14 rpmbuild Jan 28 08:25:04 DawnFoster: pong ... I wasn't :) Jan 28 08:45:47 GAN900: Sure, can do that. Jan 28 09:26:27 <`Ika_Musume> hello Jan 28 09:26:38 <`Ika_Musume> hows meego going? Jan 28 09:29:56 forward Jan 28 09:30:19 <`Ika_Musume> is it beter supported then maemo? Jan 28 09:30:37 more work going into it, for sue Jan 28 09:30:37 :P Jan 28 09:31:33 <`Ika_Musume> well if it ist as dead as maemo support, i woulda go over to it if i know how Jan 28 09:33:02 `Ika_Musume: If you want a usable OS with some apps on an N900, Maemo 5 is your best bet Jan 28 09:33:23 <`Ika_Musume> i see Jan 28 10:05:24 created bug #13077 for the qemu problem I mentioned yesterday Jan 28 10:05:27 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13077 nor, Undecided, ---, fathi.boudra, NEW, Handset uxlaunch fails inside QEMU Jan 28 11:27:15 lcuk's multiplying Jan 28 11:27:28 that's a scary thought Jan 28 11:27:41 :) Jan 28 11:45:22 I'm trying to get the Japan scim to work. Anyone by chance know how? I've gotten Japan Kana to work, but that's not really what I want cause it just does very basic kana per key, and not the full kanji IME. Jan 28 12:27:38 hey Jan 28 12:28:01 is there a possibility to start the meego installation in textmode? Jan 28 12:39:24 khuber: Any particular reason why? Jan 28 12:39:40 X is not coming up Jan 28 12:40:05 I tried "installation only" and also "Boot Meego" Jan 28 12:40:12 If it doesn't come up in installation, your device is likely unsupported at all. Jan 28 12:41:37 X says: VESA: V_BIOS address 0xbla out of range Jan 28 12:42:01 it is an intel tunnel creek and meego 1.0 runs pretty well Jan 28 12:42:47 did you try removing the quiet from the kernel cmdline? Jan 28 12:42:57 yes Jan 28 12:43:06 ah, nm then Jan 28 12:43:12 I finally got scim to work, sorta.. But not as well as I'd hoped for. Jan 28 12:43:39 Psi-Jack: you solve your wifi issues ? Jan 28 12:44:43 slaine: Yep. I had to download the newest firmware from RaLink, which came in a bin file, rt2860.bin, put that into /lib/firmware/rt3090.bin and it just works. The rt2860 kernel module sees the rt3090.bin and loads it instead of the rt2860.bin which is older and doesn't support my 3090 specifically. Jan 28 12:46:15 Cool Jan 28 12:46:35 Yeah. Now just trying to get the Japanese SCIM to work. ;) Jan 28 12:46:36 I've to spend some time on my Wifi driver, doesn't seem to load on the latest trunk snapshots Jan 28 12:47:44 I can get scim to work when I manually load the scim-bridge in a terminal, then right click an input box where I want to use it and select the Japanese Anthy SCIM, but.... Jan 28 12:48:48 I want it to start up scim globally at login, CTRL+Space to activate/deactivate scim mode, and be global to everything until I turn it off. Jan 28 12:52:49 How can I setup scim-bridge to load at startup/login? Jan 28 12:53:05 Dropbox managed to get itself autoloaded at login, so somehow it's possible. ;) Jan 28 12:54:10 Ahh, there's a .config/autostart directory with .desktop files. Jan 28 12:57:52 こんいちわ Jan 28 12:58:18 hehe. That worked at least. Got it to start the bridge. ;) Jan 28 13:03:19 それは違うです。こんにちはとゆうですか? Jan 28 13:04:03 とゆういみですか* Jan 28 13:49:23 hi Jan 28 13:49:52 i am at the meego presentation in paris now Jan 28 13:49:59 how is it? Jan 28 13:50:04 intel's roadshow or how was it? Jan 28 13:50:10 yea Jan 28 13:50:28 intel talked about thneir store before Jan 28 13:50:44 asked them about freesoftware :K Jan 28 13:50:48 :) Jan 28 13:52:19 470+ pple here ? Jan 28 13:52:52 meego is interesting, yes Jan 28 13:53:15 if it wasnt we were not here Jan 28 13:53:45 Heh Jan 28 13:54:35 timoph, Stskeeps - at least I will have enough fingers then! Jan 28 13:55:48 dammit the slides are in .pptx Jan 28 13:56:30 lcuk: you may be interested in this, I did a little test case using my future gl graphics engine (going to use for Columbus v2 mapping) and current Columbus widgets with Qt Graphics Framework :) Jan 28 13:56:59 Going to work on integrating Qml which I'll use for a truely crossplatform UX :) Jan 28 13:58:08 alterego, cool stuff - how is v1 coming on? Jan 28 14:01:23 Not bad, got a few little bits to do :) Jan 28 14:01:38 But yeah, almost there now, probably only a week or two away Jan 28 14:05:51 didnt speak about nokia products Jan 28 14:06:47 they're presenting meego and appup, no surprises Jan 28 14:10:48 lcuk2: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/research/Screenshot-20110128-124225.png Jan 28 14:11:10 lcuk2: that's my gfx engine, and a columbus widget with alpha overlayed on top :) Jan 28 14:11:32 Notice the sexy antialiasing :D Jan 28 14:12:58 questio about copyright holders now Jan 28 14:48:05 lbt: ping Jan 28 15:10:34 DawnFoster: pong Jan 28 15:11:33 evening lbt - can I put you on the community office agenda for Tuesday to brainstorm ideas to make community OBS, apps, etc. better? Jan 28 15:11:48 lbt: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings#Next_CO_meeting Jan 28 15:12:48 DawnFoster: yes... I wrote a reply.... and then lost Jaffa's email Jan 28 15:12:54 so I just sent it Jan 28 15:13:08 X-Fade can make it... need to confirm Jaffa too Jan 28 15:13:43 sounds good Jan 28 15:14:53 DawnFoster: enough material in that email to do some planning around? Jan 28 15:15:03 since we only have these meetings twice a month, let's go ahead and put it on the agenda hoping jaffa can make it. Jan 28 15:15:31 lbt: i'd say that's plenty of info in the email Jan 28 15:15:50 lbt: but we should create a wiki page where people can brainstorm solutions to the issues Jan 28 15:16:05 yep ... being done Jan 28 15:16:05 DawnFoster: I'm wikifying it. Jan 28 15:16:11 ^^ Jan 28 15:16:24 * Jaffa sees his name :-) Jan 28 15:16:41 X-Fade: sweet - ping me when you have it & I'll send the agenda out when you finish Jan 28 15:17:08 DawnFoster: First part is under the task force. http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Task_Forces/MeeGo_Surrounds_and_Extras Jan 28 15:17:28 Jaffa: can you make that CO meeting ? Jan 28 15:17:59 X-Fade: I'd like to make sure we have it in a format where people can add random brainstormed ideas before the meeting Jan 28 15:18:28 X-Fade: something like this: http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Community_Office/Meetings/Brainstorming_12-7-10&oldid=23418 Jan 28 15:18:30 DawnFoster: Yeah, I intend to add a table with concrete task etc. Jan 28 15:18:31 lbt: 20:00 UTC, 2010-02-01? Jan 28 15:18:38 yep Jan 28 15:18:54 lbt: In Stockholm. 9pm. Yes, can make that. Jan 28 15:19:05 Jaffa: great! Jan 28 15:19:16 DawnFoster: This is a large topic, so we might need to split it up. But yes, that makes sense. Jan 28 15:19:37 X-Fade: yeah, that's what I was thinking, too Jan 28 15:20:06 DawnFoster: It might make sense to split the development/building part from the Apps webservice. Jan 28 15:20:17 we should split into sections & put the things that need the most work or are most important at the top to make sure we hit those first. Jan 28 15:20:28 Policy Jan 28 15:20:53 lbt: Indeed. It might make sense that for this meeting we concentrate on policy. Jan 28 15:21:15 And then after we have policies defined, we can make things look pretty :) Jan 28 15:21:22 You guys can figure out how you best want to split it and organize it for this meeting. Jan 28 15:21:54 yep... and if we set that as the focus then we can stay close to on topic Jan 28 15:21:55 DawnFoster: Do you have other topics planned? Jan 28 15:22:14 X-Fade: no, this is huge enough that I want you to have the whole hour Jan 28 15:22:24 and is the meeting room booked for the following hour ;) Jan 28 15:22:28 DawnFoster: Ok. Jan 28 15:26:37 is it possible to have a VM image with ubuntu 10.04 for example as guest OS so i can develop for MeeGo and run Qemu inside host OS so i can test/debug my apps with that way? (because i cannot run qemu inside a virtual machine) Jan 28 15:29:31 X-Fade: I'd say the big overarching thing is "who needs to be in the group?" (I think an architect makes sense) and "who needs to empower them?" Jan 28 15:32:03 Jaffa: Sure, amongst a whole list of other things :) Jan 28 15:41:48 Jaffa, X-Fade when's the discussion? I'm very interested in this. Jan 28 15:45:18 alterego: CO meeting next tue http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings#Next_CO_meeting Jan 28 15:45:37 Thanks lbt Jan 28 15:46:07 I'll compile some notes. Jan 28 15:46:30 I'd really like to work on a Qml UI for the app installer. Jan 28 15:47:14 alterego: While interesting, that is probably not within the scope just yet. Jan 28 15:47:44 Sure, I have a vested intesrest also being an app developer :) Jan 28 15:48:03 alterego: I think we will need our time for the underlying repositoy policy this meeting. Jan 28 15:49:04 Sure, I'm still interested. And maybe I can help in some way. Though I'm filling my meego plate quite a bit right now. Jan 28 15:50:34 alterego: Don't we all :) Jan 28 15:50:41 :) Jan 28 15:51:01 It's worth it though. ^.^ Jan 28 15:56:15 Hello All Jan 28 15:56:22 I am here !! Jan 28 15:56:41 yes, you are Jan 28 15:56:55 hi Stskeeps Jan 28 15:57:04 i am new here Jan 28 15:57:29 but i am looking for MeeGo non-Vanilla Jan 28 15:57:33 Name :) Jan 28 15:57:52 The name of .... Jan 28 15:58:10 non-vanilla? :P Jan 28 15:58:18 hhhh Jan 28 15:58:21 Hi man Jan 28 15:58:30 Meego Froyo? =) Jan 28 15:58:36 i am not english boy , so :$ Jan 28 15:58:51 meego's meego :) Jan 28 15:58:56 Yes it is :) Jan 28 15:59:03 MeeGo Froyo :) Jan 28 15:59:05 for what vendors will call their products, that's a good question Jan 28 15:59:50 who is the developers of this Froyo ?? Jan 28 16:00:01 i will ask GooGle :) Jan 28 16:00:09 meego comes in releases, we have boring numbers instead, no codenames Jan 28 16:00:12 Mostafa << ????? Jan 28 16:00:16 next one is 1.2 Jan 28 16:00:27 yes i know Jan 28 16:00:29 hmmm Jan 28 16:01:17 but this version (distrubiton << :p ) its named Vanilla :) Jan 28 16:01:43 we're publishing a platform, others make a product :) Jan 28 16:01:53 yes ,, so Jan 28 16:02:02 i am looking for a product Jan 28 16:02:03 TheRiLi: What is your native language? Jan 28 16:02:17 Korean Jan 28 16:02:28 Ok,a moment Jan 28 16:03:03 OK tyt Jan 28 16:03:08 TyT :) Jan 28 16:03:10 http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo Jan 28 16:03:31 not particularly detailed, but looks complete enough Jan 28 16:06:05 i am looking for a name of MeeGo product Jan 28 16:06:15 none exists yet, i believe Jan 28 16:06:33 like , android of samsung Jan 28 16:06:50 or droid of Motorola Jan 28 16:06:51 Android of Samsung? Jan 28 16:07:02 yes Jan 28 16:07:08 TheRiLi: you mean hardware? Jan 28 16:07:12 Samsung and Motorola are _hardware_ manufacturers Jan 28 16:07:12 A good point about names was raised there, being a platform maybe MeeGo should choose a numbering system like Ubuntu, 10.04 .. 10.10, so people know when to expect the next increment Jan 28 16:07:16 MeeGo is software Jan 28 16:07:37 so then it is forced to stick to its 6 month cycle Jan 28 16:07:41 kvehmanen: But they know when to expect it - every six months Jan 28 16:07:45 kavacha: we do have a 6 month cycle Jan 28 16:07:53 kavacha: That is already set up Jan 28 16:07:56 yep, so which month Jan 28 16:08:02 kavacha: i think the dates thing/months was discussed and dismissed :P Jan 28 16:08:17 :) ok Jan 28 16:08:29 the Android of Galaxy S is defernt of Android of Motorola << i think :( Jan 28 16:08:45 smurf? Jan 28 16:08:46 TheRiLi: yes, it's a custom image done by the vendor Jan 28 16:08:53 woow Jan 28 16:09:03 than i looking for that Jan 28 16:09:05 ?? Jan 28 16:09:16 a custom image :) Jan 28 16:09:20 only one that exists in market as such is "wetab os", i guess Jan 28 16:10:24 WeTab (initially announced as WePad) is a MeeGo-based tablet computer announced by German producer Neofonie in April 2010. Jan 28 16:10:33 is an oropean :( Jan 28 16:11:12 AFAIK, there are no other manufacturers producing Meego-based devices at the moment. Jan 28 16:11:23 But you can run Meego on many netbooks. Jan 28 16:11:31 yes Jan 28 16:11:41 yeah Jan 28 16:11:46 RST38h: well, that is in market, i think there's underway products, judging by who we see around on mailing lists and irc channel asking for help Jan 28 16:12:09 Nokia promised a product by 2010 Q4 Jan 28 16:12:17 Stskeeps: The only products that matter are the ones being sold. Jan 28 16:12:18 they did? Jan 28 16:12:19 really? Jan 28 16:12:23 * wmarone missed that one Jan 28 16:12:27 Now they're saying 2011 Jan 28 16:12:34 but its very EMPTY << the vanilla Meego Jan 28 16:12:38 Stskeeps: Everything else is written in milk Jan 28 16:12:46 TheRiLi: it's a platform Jan 28 16:12:46 Milk is good Jan 28 16:12:49 TheRiLi: vanilla meego is a reference design Jan 28 16:13:03 RST38h: ah, i had you long suspected of being gerbick. now i have proof! Jan 28 16:13:03 jeremiah: goes invisible onceit dries up, too. Jan 28 16:13:25 Stskeeps:It is even worse: I AM THE GHOST OF GERBICK! BE AFRAID! Jan 28 16:13:32 * jeremiah cowers Jan 28 16:13:42 i hate the Platforms ,, i am looking for a complet OS Jan 28 16:13:46 Stskeeps: [gerbick just announced he is leaving tmo etc] Jan 28 16:13:54 TheRiLi: MeeGo is a complete OS Jan 28 16:14:05 OMG !! Jan 28 16:14:08 RST38h: i wonder if i should add it to /etc/hosts pointing to 127.0.0.1 Jan 28 16:14:34 me slaps TheRiLi with a pointing cluebat Jan 28 16:14:42 RST38h: really? he's been quiet for months Jan 28 16:16:20 Stskeeps: Doing so equals admitting own obsession =P Jan 28 16:16:29 OH , Jan 28 16:17:09 alterego: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69048 Jan 28 16:17:13 hi. where do i get a proper repos files for yum? repos.d it's empty. Jan 28 16:17:23 trolololololo: we don't use yum anymore, it's zypper Jan 28 16:17:32 aaa ok Jan 28 16:17:37 Did we ever use yum? Jan 28 16:17:51 im ex-fedora user :) Jan 28 16:17:52 alterego: for 1.0 or something Jan 28 16:19:12 In your opinion who is the best MeeGo or MaEmo for N900? Jan 28 16:19:24 in this time :) Jan 28 16:19:43 depends what you want Jan 28 16:20:09 a complet OS with Apps :) Jan 28 16:20:26 not a platforms :( Jan 28 16:20:29 Stskeeps: thx, nice tool btw Jan 28 16:21:00 stable primary phone "maemo on N900" Jan 28 16:21:34 i think :) Jan 28 16:22:44 in this time the best OpenSourc OS is android ,, many App , and many custom imags :) Jan 28 16:23:15 TheRiLi: I'm not sure what your point is, you were talking about the Nokia N900 .. Jan 28 16:23:46 for MeeGo , I wish to evolve quickly, Jan 28 16:24:17 TheRiLi: Not sure what you mean. Jan 28 16:24:27 TheRiLi: what do you want/need? Jan 28 16:24:31 then pull your finger out and help :P Jan 28 16:24:57 I looking for a complet OS for phones (Mobile) Jan 28 16:25:18 TheRiLi: for what? Jan 28 16:25:43 any one , for exempl N900 Jan 28 16:25:57 cuz the MaeMo Community are die :( Jan 28 16:26:00 * alterego sighs Jan 28 16:26:31 died* Jan 28 16:26:35 TheRiLi: if you're thinking of buying a new phone, this really isn't the place to ask for advice. Jan 28 16:26:47 i know Jan 28 16:27:01 So what are you asking? Jan 28 16:27:24 in realty i am here for the NAME of a product of MeeGo Jan 28 16:27:33 i am not an english :( Jan 28 16:27:51 TheRiLi: currently there are no MeeGo handsets Jan 28 16:28:02 aaa Jan 28 16:28:05 TheRiLi: there will be soon enough but not right now. Jan 28 16:28:19 a custm images ?? Jan 28 16:28:31 like the Galaxy S Android Jan 28 16:28:55 WeTab << ?? Jan 28 16:29:05 TheRiLi: there are images for the Nokia N900 and some Android handsets but I don't know if there's a compatibility list anywhere Jan 28 16:29:35 but this images are VOID Jan 28 16:29:44 No many APPs Jan 28 16:29:59 of course it is Jan 28 16:30:04 TheRiLi: that's because there isn't any meego devices .. Jan 28 16:30:06 it's a development image Jan 28 16:30:12 Primitive Jan 28 16:30:22 theodor: Jan 28 16:30:27 And there are apps, but not a lot right now because nothing has been released. Jan 28 16:30:35 We're in early adopter stage Jan 28 16:30:51 TheRiLi: please, try to understand what meego is before getting antsy about it Jan 28 16:31:00 I understand now Jan 28 16:31:09 If you're a developer we can help, otherwise you'll probably want to look elsewhere. Jan 28 16:32:05 ammm Jan 28 16:32:21 Now is the time of developers ONLY Jan 28 16:32:44 in the next time , is the End-User one Jan 28 16:33:45 so , i will go , I'm a developer !! Jan 28 16:33:45 But I am not prepared at this time :( Jan 28 16:34:17 There are more improvements that you should do. Jan 28 16:34:49 Now is the time of beers. Jan 28 16:35:11 :O Jan 28 16:35:23 i am under 18 Y Jan 28 16:35:26 :p Jan 28 16:35:27 * jeremiah smacks TheRiLi with a bottle opener Jan 28 16:35:52 those of us in US time zones sigh... not time of beer yet Jan 28 16:36:00 CET FTW! Jan 28 16:36:26 although.... Jan 28 16:36:45 It's always beer o'clock somewhere in teh world Jan 28 16:36:45 * mwichmann recalls a Hungarian ex-boss who asserted "beer is for breakfast" Jan 28 16:36:51 heh Jan 28 16:37:03 * TheRiLi slaps jeremiah around a bit with a large trout Jan 28 16:39:19 where are youuuu ?? Jan 28 16:39:31 go to the IRC bar ? Jan 28 16:39:59 you appear to be in Algeria :) Jan 28 16:40:14 No Jan 28 16:40:31 i use an Algeriann proxy ;) Jan 28 16:41:14 I am from Borders of North Korea :p Jan 28 17:28:39 no to masz przejebane stary, ja ci już tego nie naprawię :D Jan 28 17:28:54 damn... wrong tab :P Jan 28 17:29:05 jest okay Jan 28 17:29:06 :P Jan 28 17:44:23 hey lcuk Jan 28 18:50:59 qgil, thanks Jan 28 18:51:17 vgrade: yr welcome Jan 28 18:52:02 qgil, local meet on Wednesday Jan 28 20:04:14 odin_: we should move to here, my OBS woes are not related to arm :) Jan 28 20:04:44 sure... reviving ideapad Jan 28 20:04:49 anyone: what's a good name for a meegon generator program that doesn't include "meego" in the name? Jan 28 20:07:56 unless someone comes up with something better i'm going with "Mavatar" Jan 28 20:14:18 ok, renamed everything. that was quite easy. just need to add some copyright boilerplate now Jan 28 20:17:03 I'm still going to call them meegoons ;) Jan 28 20:17:34 dm8tbr: noogems? Jan 28 20:18:21 omegones? Jan 28 20:18:37 it's friday.... cojones? Jan 28 20:21:43 since it's friday: http://koti.kapsi.fi/matrixx/meego/meegathon_logo_magenta_whitepg.png Jan 28 20:22:31 :D Jan 28 20:22:36 is it LICENCE or LICENSE when you're making a gnu tarball? Jan 28 20:22:37 matrixx: Cool, Megatron MeeGo :) Jan 28 20:22:50 genomes is an anagram of meegons, and nobody can claim copyright on that :) Jan 28 20:23:16 yeah, created with megatron meegon generator ;) Jan 28 20:23:33 sorry, megatron emegon generator Jan 28 20:24:01 :) Jan 28 20:24:14 gnome generator? Jan 28 20:24:48 e-gnome is also an anagram Jan 28 20:29:35 ali1234: it says LICENSE in the gpl title Jan 28 20:30:13 well according to google, license = verb, licence = noun Jan 28 20:30:51 but maybe americans do it differently Jan 28 20:32:03 oh, duh, you're supposed to call it COPYING Jan 28 20:32:03 apparently gnu does it differently than google :) Jan 28 20:32:05 and great artist too Jan 28 20:32:11 *artists Jan 28 20:39:52 ali1234, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=ali1234_helloworld&project=home%3Adlmiles%3AApplications (about a minimal as it gets helloworld Qt application) Jan 28 20:40:31 perfect, thanks Jan 28 20:49:09 ali1234, command sequence: http://pastebin.com/n9jCdEht (cosc is my aliased 'osc -c /foo/config.txt' -Ahttps://api.pub.meego.com') Jan 28 20:52:00 i'm writing a video player and while playing a video phone screensaver comes up.. how do i disable it? any API? Jan 28 21:03:01 makulkar: you still about? Jan 28 21:03:31 makulkar: you use the Qt Mobility System API specifically the screensaver inhibit stuff Jan 28 21:07:00 alterego, great. Will have a look at those. Jan 28 21:07:37 :) Jan 28 21:07:56 If you need a hand I can give you a good example of usage. Jan 28 21:09:38 alterego, that would be great! Jan 28 21:10:46 makulkar: okay, ang on. Jan 28 21:12:38 alterego, QSystemScreenSaver::setScreenSaverInhibit(true) should do it? Jan 28 21:13:14 makulkar: well, there's some nuances. Jan 28 21:13:25 Columbus does it really well. Jan 28 21:14:18 alterego, Columbus? Jan 28 21:14:28 Basically, you create a QSystemScreenSaver instance, you call setScreenSaverInhibit(true) to start it. Then when you want to disable it, you have to "delete" the instance. Jan 28 21:14:43 alterego, ah! Jan 28 21:14:57 makulkar: yeah, it's my app: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/index.html Jan 28 21:16:03 makulkar: it has a config setting that the user sets to enable screen keep alive, but if the user explicitly locks the screen, it disables it, then when the user reenables the screen, it resumes the keep alive. Jan 28 21:17:01 Which, well, I think is neat. Jan 28 21:17:16 What, youd do, in your case, is pause video aswell. Jan 28 21:22:15 Oh, you left L) Jan 28 21:22:44 alterego, sorry got disconnected. checking at the app now Jan 28 21:23:02 alterego, looking at logs if i missed any msgs Jan 28 21:42:24 makulkar: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/MainWindow.cpp Jan 28 21:42:40 that's where the code for screensaver inhibiting is Jan 28 22:07:18 is anyone insterested in bringing MeeGo-SDK to Gentoo? Jan 28 22:08:53 anyone know how to change the osc default editor to something sensible? Jan 28 22:10:09 export EDITOR="/the/resobable/editor" ? Jan 28 22:10:30 being careful to spell it correctly :) Jan 28 22:10:45 Heh Jan 28 22:10:53 tzorvas: I don't think so no. Jan 28 22:11:08 berndhs: thanks Jan 28 22:33:25 hmm what Group: should i put this in? Jan 28 22:36:12 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1130038430.png :3 Jan 28 22:36:54 "JNT Association"? Jan 28 22:37:32 oh, janet? Jan 28 22:37:50 yep Jan 28 22:39:54 CosmoHill, pity we don't have that at Clowns, you could attend the Cambridge meet in HD Jan 28 22:40:25 that was monday, today it was crap Jan 28 22:40:37 took me 3 mins to copy 8MB to a network folder Jan 28 22:42:16 CosmoHill, does ARU have an electronic notice board to advertise meetings/events? Jan 28 22:42:25 yeah there is a system for that Jan 28 22:42:49 monitors around campus attached to thin clients broadcasting stuff Jan 28 22:42:51 if I prep a doc for the Cambridge could you post Jan 28 22:43:02 no idea Jan 28 22:43:03 Cambridge meet Jan 28 22:44:42 could you enquire? Jan 28 22:44:57 I'll try, not to sure where to start tho Jan 28 22:45:03 thanks Jan 28 22:45:47 vgrade: I think so yeah. Jan 28 22:46:14 odin_: what's this "other script" for local build? Jan 28 23:27:14 awesome it worked on remote build on my second try (didn't make the tarball right first time) Jan 28 23:30:27 so, where do the rpms come out? Jan 28 23:33:39 huh, meego says i'm running low on battery... but it's 87% and it is plugged in and charging Jan 28 23:33:50 kyb3R: ping Jan 28 23:35:39 ah : http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/ali1234:/Mavatar/meego_1.1_core/ Jan 28 23:35:55 kyb3R: if you're about I'd like to discuss the presentation for the FI Summit Jan 28 23:36:05 I'll be here over the weekend so ping me Jan 28 23:36:09 bed now Jan 28 23:51:53 alterego, http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/ doesnt have fullsource code.. do know where i cna find? Jan 29 00:08:42 back home Jan 29 01:32:48 user zhiyuan Jan 29 01:34:48 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTA1NA Jan 29 01:34:58 do we have a "guide to becoming a meego developer?" Jan 29 01:36:12 Developing Applications? Jan 29 01:36:57 CosmoHill: Developig Applications? Jan 29 01:37:22 I was thinking more core meego work Jan 29 01:39:13 CosmoHill: Not sure, but would suggest Linux Development, if you are think about App, then Qt http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/tutorials.html Jan 29 01:40:11 CosmoHill: As MeeGo is built using Linux, then I would assume any Linux Development guides/tutorials will help Jan 29 01:42:09 I though QML was the recommended toolkit Jan 29 01:42:12 thought* Jan 29 01:42:49 I could just try my LFS approach Jan 29 01:43:06 beford: Maybe, I'm no expert it depends on the Dev work Jan 29 01:43:11 that way I'll be a developer within 18 months ^.^ Jan 29 01:43:26 :) Jan 29 01:44:10 cyas Jan 29 01:44:16 CosmoHill: you just need to know how a linux system works. for the meego specific packaging details, and package submission processes there's documentation in the wiki Jan 29 01:44:31 thanks Aard, night night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 29 02:59:56 2011