**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 21 02:59:56 2011 Mar 21 06:04:52 morning Mar 21 06:12:59 Error: The Madde configuration directory /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/cache/madde.conf.d is not presented. Mar 21 06:13:21 i am getting this error while migrating to Meego1.1.9 Mar 21 06:13:32 anyone faced this problem Mar 21 07:59:26 hello everyone Mar 21 08:12:00 looking at the support hw, it says only Atom platforms are supported. does that mean that meego wont work on all the new dual core lappies ? Mar 21 08:12:45 ofcourse, it also says that is for 1.0 and latest release is 1.1. I'm not sure anyone is maintaining the meego site any more. Mar 21 08:14:22 oh fudge it Mar 21 09:00:37 morning Mar 21 09:02:18 hi, getting some error while Meego1.2 pre-release installation Mar 21 09:02:24 http://pastebin.com/G1DNKaH1 Mar 21 09:02:41 can some one help me out Mar 21 09:04:34 anyone here familiar w/ gst? Mar 21 09:05:14 I'm trying to build a Qt project on OBS using http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeview.html, Mar 21 09:05:39 the build fails with, main.cpp:6:28: fatal error: QDeclarativeView: No such file or directory Mar 21 09:06:11 What package to I need to add to the buidrequires to get this header? Mar 21 09:06:43 vgrade: can you paste your .pro file to a paste bin Mar 21 09:07:32 Hi Mar 21 09:09:34 alterego, http://pastie.org/1695270 Mar 21 09:09:36 Hello everyone Mar 21 09:09:48 morning odd Mar 21 09:10:19 How's it going Mar 21 09:11:07 been better, complier errors Mar 21 09:12:15 interesting. Mar 21 09:12:40 libdeclarative (I think) Mar 21 09:12:42 ang on Mar 21 09:13:22 well, libqt4-declarative Mar 21 09:14:44 I have installing libqtdeclarative4-4.7.1-4.3 in the build log Mar 21 09:15:41 :/ Mar 21 09:16:12 I'd find someone elses project that compiles and look at their .spec file Mar 21 09:16:20 what is libqt4-declarative? Mar 21 09:16:52 the debian name for the package yours is the correct one. Mar 21 09:17:23 alterego, can't find any on public obs which uses declarative, lets try other obs Mar 21 09:18:59 hi, do anybody else build for armv7l on build.pub.meego.com with build.meego.com (Trunk) repositories? Mar 21 09:21:47 every build fails for arm since wednesday with 'db3 error(-30971)' at chroot installation time Mar 21 09:22:20 mdfe_: local build? Mar 21 09:22:31 remote build Mar 21 09:22:43 on build.pub.meego.com Mar 21 09:22:43 show me error log Mar 21 09:23:01 (url) Mar 21 09:26:36 stskeeps; can i interest you in Xorg code? Mar 21 09:26:40 no Mar 21 09:26:53 [promptly throws up] Mar 21 09:37:29 * timeless_office sighs Mar 21 09:37:44 so... anyone here willing to read some x11 code? :) Mar 21 09:37:45 http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/xorg-x11-server/dix/dixfonts.c?mark=1174-1175,1179-1180,1196,1208,1210,1212-1215,1217-1220,1393,1407,1409,1410-1417,1428-1428,1428#1166 Mar 21 09:59:32 timeless_office, that is ummmm novel Mar 21 10:08:49 hello Mar 21 10:09:25 is this the right channel to get account can gain access to the obs system ? Mar 21 10:10:46 yes, ask lbt Mar 21 10:10:51 wuyongb, no, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it Mar 21 10:11:07 s/no/yes/ Mar 21 10:11:08 lcuk meant: wuyongb, yes, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it Mar 21 10:13:12 I am team member of META Beijing team. I am trying to update some ots related test packages on repo to make ots get right test result. Mar 21 10:18:28 so ? Mar 21 10:18:45 you probably need to file one through bugs.meego.com -> community infrastructure -> build service accounts Mar 21 10:19:17 * kedz back.. Mar 21 10:21:50 stskeeps : but there is not link for community infastructure in bugs.meego.com Mar 21 10:22:15 https://bugs.meego.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Build%20Service Mar 21 10:24:22 stskeeps : so I should file a bug with requesting authorized account(already registered) ? Mar 21 10:24:50 stskeeps : with componets "Build services" ? Mar 21 11:10:52 lcuk: glad you liked Mar 21 11:12:28 timeless_office, are you "timeless" Mar 21 11:12:34 yes Mar 21 11:12:37 ok :D Mar 21 11:18:49 andre__: ping Mar 21 11:40:19 timeless_office, pong Mar 21 11:42:06 andre: so, i'm thinking of making a http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers&action=submit Mar 21 11:42:15 kinda like https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/ Mar 21 11:42:19 unless you already have such a thing Mar 21 11:44:29 timeless_office, not existing, and very welcome. maybe http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide/NonGnome is also helpful Mar 21 11:44:55 * timeless_office busy waits Mar 21 11:48:34 andre__: that page is not interested in loading Mar 21 11:48:54 is live dead? :) Mar 21 11:50:01 timeless_office, hmm, looks like Mar 21 11:50:09 it's just a list with links to other bugtrackers Mar 21 11:51:31 can you poke someone to make live less dead? Mar 21 11:53:02 timeless_office, http://tinyurl.com/6gmvmet Mar 21 11:54:59 Stskeeps: what image should I use if I want to build Qt against the ARM target? Mar 21 11:55:19 Stskeeps: or should I use mic to create one for me? Mar 21 11:55:57 iekku / andre__: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers Mar 21 11:57:11 grr Mar 21 11:57:20 thiago: so, if it was me doing it, i'd personally use a obs account, osc checkout qt, osc build armv7el and then osc chroot afterwards to chroot into a ARM chroot with cross compilers installed Mar 21 11:57:24 looks good Mar 21 11:57:46 Stskeeps: I was more thinking about running benchmarks Mar 21 11:57:48 thiago: with all my needed dependancies already installed Mar 21 11:58:11 fab .. bah, no fabo? Mar 21 11:58:28 w00t_: get him in from #meego-arm? :P Mar 21 11:58:48 * thiago needs to upgrade his gcc ARM toolchain Mar 21 11:59:09 do we patch gcc in MeeGo? Or is it pristine? Mar 21 11:59:34 Stskeeps, I wonder why there is a difference in people in #meego as in #meego-arm Mar 21 11:59:36 it uses linaro patches at least I think Mar 21 11:59:51 it's gcc 4.5 + linaro 2010.09 patches plus one or two patches i think Mar 21 12:00:20 * thiago should download that instead of the CS2010q3 Mar 21 12:01:07 right, that'd be the sdk guys you'd have to ask :P Mar 21 12:02:19 think there's a standalone install for it Mar 21 12:02:37 and 1.2 sysroots ought to have all -devel packages.. i think Mar 21 12:02:46 timeless_office, nice, thanks :) Mar 21 12:10:13 iekku: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bugtriage_Guide#Is_it_in_the_right_place.3F Mar 21 12:10:22 if you want more bits, you'll probably have to add them Mar 21 12:11:26 i think +1 page +1 link is enough on my part Mar 21 12:24:54 iekku: first task for you: add the Qt bug tracker ;-) Mar 21 12:26:08 timeless_office, try to do that Mar 21 12:26:16 on some point during this week :D Mar 21 12:26:25 need to add a to-do Mar 21 12:26:55 the problem is that the time it takes to add a todo is roughly equivalent to doing it Mar 21 12:27:11 in the meeting currently Mar 21 12:34:43 hope the qt page is correct Mar 21 12:35:18 sounds right Mar 21 12:35:34 but, i was hoping people would keep the list sorted alphabetically ;-0 Mar 21 12:37:12 but yeah, that link's correct, good job ;) Mar 21 12:53:51 hi Mar 21 12:54:24 hi Mar 21 12:55:06 iekku: part of the reason i'm filing these bugs is to show people how to use the tools that we have Mar 21 12:56:26 timeless_office, ok Mar 21 12:57:14 ideally at some point, someone will be write a document explaining how to use mxr w/ bugzilla and point to or source material from some of them Mar 21 12:59:00 of course, i'd also like to get people into the habbit of sending bugs to upstream if they're filed here Mar 21 12:59:11 heh Mar 21 13:55:02 is there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde? Mar 21 14:10:56 morning Mar 21 14:11:27 howdy! Mar 21 14:12:34 morn Mar 21 14:13:31 morning? good morning ((: Mar 21 14:14:04 ofcourse its morning:P its not 5.pm yet, sp it cant be afternoon... Mar 21 14:14:17 ~ugt Mar 21 14:14:17 i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html Mar 21 14:14:35 I hate the 3g coverage in dublin... it sucks... I'm in the mioddle of the bloody city, and got no 3g... Mar 21 14:15:31 and when you got 3g, the speeds stink... (200ms in ping to my linux box in france.... when I'm on wlan the onig is about 50... Mar 21 14:16:18 anyone going to the meego conferance in the states this year? Mar 21 14:16:23 <- Mar 21 14:16:44 a long and expencive trip.... or is your job paying? Mar 21 14:16:55 am actually planning on paying myself Mar 21 14:17:15 i'm trying to participate Mar 21 14:17:22 would be nice if it would be in dublin this year too. then I would definatly go Mar 21 14:17:30 (as i'll also be coupling it with a 14 day vacation) Mar 21 14:17:33 cant afford to go to the states this year Mar 21 14:17:49 Stskeeps, oh, that's nice! Mar 21 14:17:58 just starting a new job, and doubt dell would pay my trip to the states:P Mar 21 14:18:07 damn i couldn't take it as a honeymoon also :D Mar 21 14:18:17 my honeymoon was in helsinki. Mar 21 14:18:19 :P Mar 21 14:18:24 hehe Mar 21 14:20:07 annoying that nokia made a deal with M$ fro phones.. would be betting if they would stick to meego. would definatly increade the number of people involved Mar 21 14:20:19 and the number of phones that can run it... Mar 21 14:20:32 the N8 would be nice for meego Mar 21 14:20:45 or the enw ones they are releasing Mar 21 14:20:54 #meego-bar? :) Mar 21 14:21:03 :P Mar 21 14:21:11 yeah, #meego-bar please :) Mar 21 14:21:44 have the issue with meego in virtualbox been resolved? or is there still a horrible amount of work to get it working there? Mar 21 14:21:58 havent tried since the conference here in dublin Mar 21 14:22:02 zinit: the problem rests with gl acceleration which is a bit underdeveloped in vmware and virtualbox and such Mar 21 14:22:41 Stskeeps: hope there will be a permanent fix for that as the next verison of virtualbox comes out Mar 21 14:22:53 haven't seen what it includes Mar 21 14:23:19 a colleague told me me he got it up fine in vmware, but running vmware on a netbook with 1 gig memory under win7 is not an option... Mar 21 14:23:30 we do have our own qemu's too though Mar 21 14:23:37 havent been able to get vmware working under meego Mar 21 14:25:29 trying to trach donw a n900, want one for free, ebay is too expencive Mar 21 14:25:58 probably difficult considering it's still very usable, but since it's going out of production it should be cheaper.. Mar 21 14:26:02 typing as sentence and it takes 5-10 seconds befire it shows on my screen:P Mar 21 14:26:46 running irssi on a server I got at the gandi.net system in france Mar 21 14:27:44 and I bet it doesnt help that I'm using windows 7 ultimate here...... with visual studio ultimate mssql eats memory for breakfast.. Mar 21 14:28:07 so what's your interest in meego, out of curiousity? Mar 21 14:28:31 thats why I went to the meego conference last year here in dublin Mar 21 14:29:08 using it on my wife's netbook. she loves it. and also got it on this one that I got at the conference. Mar 21 14:29:24 iekku: ping Mar 21 14:29:43 unfortunatly I'm stuck with windows when I want to use the mobile connection with my phone. havent been able to get that to work properly in meego Mar 21 14:30:58 with my old symbian phone it worked, but not with the iphone.. the personal accesspoint or whatever its called doesnt work. Mar 21 14:32:34 got it working in windows 7 and ubuntu, but not meego. probably some driver thhing, or configuration... Mar 21 14:33:46 chinmaya, pong :) Mar 21 15:14:45 is there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde? Mar 21 15:17:05 luist: It's UX-specific. Sounds like your using the Netbook UX... which is using mutter/clutter. While this is not an answer... I hope it's helpful. :-) Mar 21 15:18:22 luist: it seems most are using xdg for that piece of information... but other than that, not really :) Mar 21 15:25:07 leinir: is there any xdg tool to do that? Mar 21 15:26:00 well, it depends greatly on what sort of code you're writing, or of you mean an actual command line tool of some type :) Mar 21 15:33:00 luist: I think the procedure is simple enough that most end-applications just write their own code. Basically you scan the files in /usr/share/applications/*.desktop . These are written in a conf-file format, and the entry you're looking for is [Desktop Entry]/Categories Mar 21 15:33:48 luist: Categories is a semi-colon-delimited list of application categories... and one of the canonical categories is called "Application" Mar 21 15:37:12 luist: Hmmm... maybe not. "Application" appears to be an extension, and not in the canonical list. http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html#category-registry Mar 21 15:50:13 why wont QML listview redraw the header when I reset the model ? grrrrrrr Mar 21 15:51:48 berndhs: where'd you get the listview from? The new desktop components lib? Mar 21 15:52:01 qt 471 or qt 472 Mar 21 15:52:14 qtquick 1.0 in both of them Mar 21 15:57:35 sweet Mar 21 15:57:51 has anyone had an issue where the Qt creator will instantly segfault when trying to open up a .ui window? Mar 21 16:03:52 berndhs: oh, I see it now. :-) Mar 21 16:06:38 gabrbedd: yeah been there for a long time Mar 21 16:12:12 berndhs: yeah, when I went searching for a combo box and couldn't find one... I erroneously concluded there were not any other kind of useful desktop Items, either. Mar 21 16:12:24 berndhs: :-) Mar 21 16:13:28 it has fields for "delegate" and "model", "header' "footer" and so on Mar 21 16:13:50 but it only doesnt the header once on loading, never updates it Mar 21 16:14:43 i'll go whine about it in #qt :) Mar 21 16:33:37 nobody listening in #qt Mar 21 16:34:55 DawnFoster, Hi tere! Well again? Mar 21 16:35:38 dneary: Feeling better, but still kind of sick unfortunately Mar 21 16:36:08 something nasty that lasts about 2 weeks has been going around the office Mar 21 16:36:27 DawnFoster, Working away getting IRC & git data into database so that I can start reports work, and I have some nice wiki reports Mar 21 16:37:01 DawnFoster, But the lack of access to hardware where I can put what I have online & get others involved is slowing me down. Mar 21 16:37:12 * CosmoHill waves at DawnFoster from across the room Mar 21 16:37:14 DawnFoster, Is there anything I can do to speed that up? Mar 21 16:37:22 hey CosmoHill Mar 21 16:37:47 dneary: do you still need that vm set up? Mar 21 16:37:50 Also access to bugzilla & mediawiki would be really nice Mar 21 16:37:55 DawnFoster, Yeah Mar 21 16:38:04 I commented on the bugzilla entry recently to ping Mar 21 16:38:06 No response Mar 21 16:38:07 dneary: ok, i'll follow up with Adam again Mar 21 16:38:11 thanks Mar 21 16:47:01 "waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1..." Mar 21 16:47:06 how long should i wait? Mar 21 16:47:13 is 2 minutes enough? Mar 21 16:47:47 i'm booting off an ssd -card, like recommended Mar 21 16:49:42 one mississippi... two mississippi... three mississippii... Mar 21 16:49:44 first time it boots it takes a while Mar 21 16:49:50 or 3 rivers Mar 21 16:50:20 that "waiting for root" isn't an indication that nothing is happening? Mar 21 16:50:34 10 minutes? Mar 21 16:50:40 depends on the ssd card i guess Mar 21 16:50:46 you mean SD card? Mar 21 16:50:54 oops yes Mar 21 16:51:15 is 30 minutes too much? Mar 21 16:52:01 yes I'd say so Mar 21 16:52:13 30 mins sounds more like a desktop install than a smart phone Mar 21 16:56:10 maybe the image you downloaded was corrupted or you didn't use the correct boot options from flasher Mar 21 16:56:26 yeah that 's possiblel Mar 21 16:56:41 i guess the card should mount properly when i boot Maemo Mar 21 17:01:20 DawnFoster, Julien messaged. Thanks for the pointer. How was SXSW? Mar 21 17:47:17 What tool do people use for dependency tracking in MeeGo? Mar 21 17:47:22 Specifically for reverse depends Mar 21 17:48:33 OBS itself Mar 21 17:48:43 it has a nice feature Mar 21 17:49:31 So why would a package, eggdbus, have 160 reverse dependencies? Mar 21 17:50:42 someone screwed up? got an example? Mar 21 18:11:29 now i managed to boot to MeeGo Mar 21 18:11:38 well, it's doing something at least it seems Mar 21 18:11:44 ok desktop :) Mar 21 18:12:16 now let's see if this N900 is finally starting to makes sense, 2 years after release :^) Mar 21 18:12:25 i'd still wait a bit Mar 21 18:12:26 :P Mar 21 18:12:37 we're making giant steps currently though Mar 21 18:13:39 like the UI graphics style concept Mar 21 18:13:57 perhaps those characters can be interacted with some day Mar 21 18:14:07 like they talk to you "hoi u has sms" Mar 21 18:14:14 or play games with them or something Mar 21 18:14:15 yes, it's the new notification system Mar 21 18:14:16 :P Mar 21 18:14:21 * tekonivelo is dreaming Mar 21 18:14:42 kinda like clippy on drugs Mar 21 18:14:42 i'd love a playful phone interface like that... phones are too serious Mar 21 18:14:51 Stskeeps: aaaargh clippy! Mar 21 18:15:23 some japanese phone UI had a character that would run off the screen to "deliver" the messages you're sending Mar 21 18:15:39 and it would refer to other people's phone-avatars as it's friends Mar 21 18:15:47 i'd love it! :) :) Mar 21 18:16:05 tekonivelo: I heard someone's actually working on a Meegoan (sp?) themed game. Mar 21 18:16:58 I can imagine them with voices like on South Park. Mar 21 18:17:24 "Oh, my god! They killed Carten! You bastards!" Mar 21 18:17:33 s/Carten/Carsten/ Mar 21 18:17:33 gabrbedd meant: "Oh, my god! They killed Carsten! You bastards!" Mar 21 18:18:04 what, they killed me? :( Mar 21 18:18:30 Don't they have South Park in Europe? Mar 21 18:18:37 yes they do, but it's cartman and not carsten Mar 21 18:18:40 maybe it's carsten in germany Mar 21 18:18:41 :P Mar 21 18:19:05 Well, I was adapting it for MeeGo. :-) Mar 21 18:19:10 ;) Mar 21 18:19:52 I thought he was called Kenny? Mar 21 18:19:57 (...and I think it was Kenny that was always killed)) Mar 21 18:20:04 CosmoHill: Beat me to it... Mar 21 18:20:29 Maybe it should be Thiago that gets killed every episode. Mar 21 18:20:47 or gabrbedd Mar 21 18:20:48 :P Mar 21 18:21:24 :-) Mar 21 19:50:42 moo, people Mar 21 19:51:41 m00 Mar 21 19:55:47 |\/|oo Mar 21 19:58:43 how are things? =) Mar 21 20:13:20 good Mar 21 20:13:25 poster is finished Mar 21 20:14:46 finished some things here too Mar 21 20:15:22 Firefox ate up 550MB, God have mercy on us all.. Mar 21 20:15:33 I'm doing things in the wrong order, your meant to do your dissertation first and poster second Mar 21 20:15:46 but the poster is pretty much guiding me through my dissertation Mar 21 20:16:44 Make sure you have got Tom Lehrer's "Lobachevsky" playing =) Mar 21 20:48:32 DawnFoster: may I steal https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12589 from you by making myself the assignee? just an offer... Mar 21 20:48:34 <_MeeeGoBot_> Bug 12589 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Allow addition of 3rd party Components into bugs.meego.com Mar 21 22:15:34 hi DawnFoster MeeGoExperts \o Mar 21 22:15:52 HI !!!!!!! Mar 21 22:15:57 How goes it ? Mar 21 22:17:21 MeeGoExperts, tired today, stinker of a headache earlier Mar 21 22:17:45 :-( Mar 21 22:17:46 lcuk, too much Guiness at the meetup Mar 21 22:18:06 * andre__ hands over a beer to lcuk against the headache Mar 21 22:18:11 vgrade, nahh it was sleeping with window closed Mar 21 22:18:16 Guiness, you don't know what guiness is (Dublin) …… ahhhh Mar 21 22:18:20 i only had a couple of pints Mar 21 22:18:56 what is the cool fruit chopping game on n8? Mar 21 22:19:04 fruit ninja Mar 21 22:19:12 * lcuk likes it Mar 21 22:19:13 never played it Mar 21 22:19:50 tis simple and effective :) Mar 21 22:20:54 vgrade, which devices do you have which are directly wall mountable? Mar 21 22:21:15 MeeGoExperts, you guys need better cameras or some stage lighting, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WskpLfYci8 Mar 21 22:24:06 so is meego going to die Mar 21 22:24:51 lcuk, you would need some sort of mounting for the vega tablet, Joggler forget it unless you want to take a couple of bricks out Mar 21 22:25:10 vgrade, joggler is ok for a mantlepiece Mar 21 22:25:18 @vgrade, yeah just saw a bit of that video …. shocking … Lol Mar 21 22:25:40 @nicky, Not if i've got anything to do with it :-) Mar 21 22:25:43 lcuk, best bet would be a large lcd mounted on wall with tiny pandaboard behind Mar 21 22:26:02 MeeGoExperts, I blame the cameraman! Mar 21 22:26:38 you can try to hide from the NSA liek that, but it won't work Mar 21 22:27:01 No cameraman was fine as he was seriously good looking :-) Mar 21 22:28:09 MeeGoExperts, you get my C4100 doc? Mar 21 22:28:29 Yep Mar 21 22:28:44 Did I forget to reply ? Sorry. Sent on :-) Mar 21 22:28:48 vgrade, hmm I wonder whether one of the allinone multitouch pcs would have the TV mounting brackets Mar 21 22:33:52 * lcuk still wonders how to ensure handset on handsets is fully catered for Mar 21 22:35:46 * timeless_w7ip sighs Mar 21 22:35:49 git is annoyin Mar 21 22:35:59 why do people insist on not having a default/master? Mar 21 22:36:34 timeless_w7ip, which repositories have you found where they don't? Mar 21 22:36:44 lcuk: um... working on that Mar 21 22:36:48 and was this what I mentioned earlier? Mar 21 22:36:52 errr few days ago Mar 21 22:36:58 about integrating from side branches Mar 21 22:37:05 MeeGoExperts, care to copy me in? Mar 21 22:37:10 omap3isp-rx51 Mar 21 22:40:17 http://mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/source/omap3isp-rx51/ Mar 21 22:40:41 timeless_w7ip, so which branch is it using? Mar 21 22:41:25 i don't think it has any named branches.. Mar 21 22:42:04 that is special Mar 21 22:44:33 * timeless_w7ip tries to figure it out Mar 21 22:45:12 timeless_w7ip, what is the repostitory url Mar 21 22:45:50 i'm having trouble figuring that out actually Mar 21 22:45:51 :( Mar 21 22:47:15 my guess is that it's http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/omap3isp-rx51 Mar 21 22:47:21 since that'd be about right Mar 21 22:48:24 it would be possible for me to check out with the extra directory, but i'm asserting that doing so is a huge waste of effort Mar 21 22:48:36 it makes updating much more expensive since i have to do recursive hunts for repos Mar 21 22:50:03 timeless_w7ip, heh Mar 21 22:50:14 the master branch of that was last updated by linux torvalds ;) Mar 21 22:50:30 consider that there are 300+ roots in that tree Mar 21 22:50:40 and that it's likely there are dozens upon dozens of directories Mar 21 22:50:55 so hunting recursively for roots would be tantamount to suicide Mar 21 22:51:36 and Len Brown, Ingo Molnar, Eric Anholt are time travellers Mar 21 22:51:38 hrm Mar 21 22:52:23 yeah there are a bunch of time travellers Mar 21 22:52:32 i actually sent a patch to hg to support time travellers Mar 21 22:52:39 but both branches appear to have data Mar 21 22:52:42 and files Mar 21 22:52:52 so how come mxr has blank contents? Mar 21 22:53:12 i did a force update on all roots trying to get it to pick master's Mar 21 22:53:17 which doesn't work if there isn't a master Mar 21 22:53:47 http://selenic.com/pipermail/mercurial-devel/2011-March/029056.html Mar 21 22:54:17 heh Mar 21 22:54:27 * lcuk wonders how to cure the master problem Mar 21 22:54:40 it would seem it is a bit harder than a 20 man quest in WoW Mar 21 22:55:07 i think something fell over wrt that root, the hgrc was missing Mar 21 22:55:33 joy Mar 21 22:55:59 timeless_w7ip, well it is a git repository so a hgrc would not be expected? Mar 21 22:56:21 lcuk: upstream is a git repository Mar 21 22:56:39 dealing w/ git directly is too complicated for my tiny exhausted little mind Mar 21 22:59:20 :( timeless_w7ip Mar 21 22:59:32 :O slashdot given mod points again Mar 21 22:59:41 LiquidCoooled (634315) Prefs Mar 21 22:59:41 Karma: Excellent Mar 21 22:59:41 5 moderator points Mar 21 22:59:57 * lcuk has not had mod points in a while Mar 21 23:01:21 what are mod points? Mar 21 23:01:44 lcuk, http://android.modaco.com/content/entries-3-unexpected-uses-of-the-vega/334044/the-ultimate-kitchen-utensil/ Mar 21 23:01:53 timeless_w7ip, i other places where repository grouping occurs, being able to specify the repo as well a branch (or even a tag) to use is possible Mar 21 23:02:24 vgrade, would have to be logged in to see it Mar 21 23:02:41 CosmoHill, can moderate the discussion Mar 21 23:03:24 lcuk: in mozilla.org land we had people who maintained pull scripts Mar 21 23:03:36 CosmoHill, wisdom of the crowds usually works, give a number of the community ability to adjust the rank and category of comments Mar 21 23:03:46 i do *not* have any faith that &anyone* would do such a thing in meego Mar 21 23:04:02 then overall you can allow decent signal to noise by the excellent subsystem using those moderations :) Mar 21 23:04:47 timeless_w7ip, I would like to see if it is usable already Mar 21 23:04:57 the meego forum has "Thanks" ability Mar 21 23:05:11 so if we had a way to see threads with just highly thanked posts Mar 21 23:05:20 we could see whether signal/noise improves using that Mar 21 23:05:31 or if sheeple just vote randomness up Mar 21 23:05:39 ? Mar 21 23:06:44 :( for some reason this bond film wasn't recorded from the start Mar 21 23:06:53 * timeless_w7ip suspects the DVR decided to go loopy by 1hr Mar 21 23:07:58 speaking of DVRs, I have stuff to watch also \o ttyl Mar 21 23:16:51 lcuk, http://twitpic.com/4bxqi7/full Mar 21 23:21:03 vgrade: nice! What tablet is that? Mar 21 23:28:07 vgrade, cool :P myclock is much simpler http://liqbase.net/liq.20110320_032054.liqbase-playground.scr.png Mar 21 23:29:03 lcuk: you're leading the way for a truly personalised GUI Mar 21 23:29:53 CosmoHill, :) well once released it will stop being "myclock" and become yourclock instead Mar 21 23:30:02 its a good feeling to say "have you seen myclock" Mar 21 23:30:16 tho sometimes ladies blush if they mishear you Mar 21 23:30:38 I did have to re-read what you said initalluy Mar 21 23:30:53 ;) Mar 21 23:32:31 (lcuk knows this from experience, from using liqbase as a chatup line in the past) Mar 21 23:32:54 w00t_, even I blushed at the meego conf when revdkathy wanted me to write liqballs app Mar 21 23:33:17 are they chocolate salty liqballs? Mar 21 23:33:24 * CosmoHill blinks Mar 21 23:33:38 oh come on.. Mar 21 23:33:44 if you don't know that reference i will dispair Mar 21 23:33:47 despair* Mar 21 23:35:37 w00t_, I did once facepalm whilst making the first scrollbar Mar 21 23:36:07 but otherwise, no try not to consider the naming style Mar 21 23:36:32 :) Mar 21 23:44:17 CosmoHill, "users interface" and "personal computing" :P Mar 21 23:44:50 if swearing was a user interface I'd be a pro Mar 21 23:45:08 the ammount of rude hand gestures I make a matlab... Mar 21 23:46:03 lol CosmoHill I have heard lardman|gone cursing at matlab Mar 21 23:46:25 though yesterday at the mMMM @mja_fin said he works with it all the time and didn't curse Mar 21 23:47:10 the biggest problem I have with matlab is that when I get stuck that's it, nothing I can do. I need the lecturer Mar 21 23:48:01 CosmoHill, what about other people on your course? Mar 21 23:48:38 simon is fine, I'm a swearing ball of anger / second best in class and everyone asks me or the lecturer Mar 21 23:51:40 I am very pleased that the assignment is basically put the tutorials together in one package with GUI Mar 21 23:52:20 CosmoHill, did you have to write the tutorials too? Mar 21 23:52:47 you mean like a report or something to go with the programming? Mar 21 23:52:50 * lcuk remembers having to wreate a whole suite of documentation and guides and putting them into big hive Mar 21 23:53:08 s/wreate/create/ Mar 21 23:53:10 yeah he wants us to explain what each function does, it's input and output Mar 21 23:54:33 simon (bring the prick that he is) kindly reminded us that we finish in 20 days Mar 21 23:55:04