**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 08 02:59:58 2011 Apr 08 04:15:05 morning Apr 08 06:09:13 while booting meego 1.1 on x86 it gives a prompt boot on pressing tab i get theree optionss "linux0 liveinst0 local " can somebody suggest me wat option shud be selected Apr 08 06:32:05 can somebody tell me wat does the option linux0 mean i get this when i boot my system with USB drive Apr 08 08:21:02 18m/s, will be a 'fun' flight today.. Apr 08 08:24:30 Stskeeps: 60km/h? Apr 08 09:09:05 have any of you guys heard of something called Laptops Park or Laptop Spark, the idiots keep spamming our website Apr 08 11:03:58 andre__: is there a page that talks about how/when to resolve a bug as 'fixed'? Apr 08 11:05:18 I'm seeing lots of talk about the Tablet UX on the n900. I'm confused. I'm assuming the DE release will still be the Handset UX right ? Getting the Tablet UX running is just for shits and giggles ? Apr 08 11:08:00 slaine: hopefully not, depending on how suitable it can be made Apr 08 11:08:21 w00t_: that's exactly why I'm confused Apr 08 11:08:23 tablet ux is a lot nicer to use, looks a lot less like ass, and isn't based on obsolete technology (and actually maintained) etc Apr 08 11:08:41 ok, that's what I was starting to wonder Apr 08 11:09:11 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/TabletUX gives a picture if you want to play and help out some Apr 08 11:09:47 Where I'm going with this is, Intel are maintaing the TabletUX to a large degree and it's going to supersede the largely nokia driven handset ux, is that a fair assumption ? Apr 08 11:09:47 Sage and I are working on it, though I haven't done much the past days as I've been too occupied with other stuff Apr 08 11:10:02 slaine: the reference handset UX was Intel too Apr 08 11:10:03 nokia driven? the handset ux was written by intel Apr 08 11:10:05 I've had a hell of a few months and not had any hobby time Apr 08 11:10:18 Ok, so that wasn't fair to say :) Apr 08 11:10:46 So why is the Handset UX now largely unmaintained and based on obsolete tech ? Apr 08 11:11:16 why - I don't know, I presume that it wasn't considered a good approach, but look at the commit logs, and you'll get the idea Apr 08 11:12:01 and tablet uses QML, which is the UI technology of choice going forward Apr 08 11:12:06 * slaine palys Sage's TabletUX video Apr 08 11:12:40 url? Apr 08 11:30:57 timeless_w7ip: it is in the n900 talbet ux wiki page Apr 08 12:12:47 I m booting my Dell core duo machine with meego 1.1 ivi .. it just shows a blank screen I am able to ping to my machine can somebiody give some suggestion Apr 08 12:13:35 priyanka: what graphics card do you have? Apr 08 12:13:46 wait, Intel Core (1)? Apr 08 12:14:43 priyanka: MeeGo requires SSSE3 support that isn't found in Intel Core processors Apr 08 12:15:17 CosmoHill: core duo have sse3 Apr 08 12:15:20 ok ,,, but I have earliar tested meego on the same device.. Apr 08 12:15:28 three Ss Apr 08 12:15:45 I got these issues after updating my repository Apr 08 12:15:51 Intel Core has SSS3 but not SSSSE3 Apr 08 12:15:54 priyanka: like I told maitrey earlier, you need graphics drivers from the netbook repos Apr 08 12:16:14 right, I'm off Apr 08 12:16:17 good luck Apr 08 12:16:19 cyas Apr 08 12:16:44 Aard: k will try with netbook drivers Apr 08 12:17:14 I even dont see the regular meego splash scrren while booting my image have to manually select the boot options Apr 08 12:18:05 priyanka: I assume you're using some IVI kernel? Apr 08 12:18:14 kernel-ivi Apr 08 12:18:45 well, if you're booting a kernel without support for the graphics hardware in your notebook, how should it be able to display the fancy splash screen? Apr 08 12:19:07 hmm my kernel verio is kernel-ivi-2.6.35.3 Apr 08 12:20:13 so i should be trying http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/core/repos/ia32/packages/i586/kernel-netbook-2.6.35.3-10.3.i586.rpm Apr 08 12:20:43 yes (or customize the ivi kernel to include support for your hardware) Apr 08 12:21:17 ok thanks for giving me the right pointer Apr 08 12:21:57 i need to change only the kernel to kernel-notebook? or linux-firmware is also differnt for these two repos ? Apr 08 12:22:22 you need X packages from the netbook repository Apr 08 12:23:14 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/netbook/repos/ia32/packages/i586/ does not have any X packages Apr 08 12:23:57 might be in core. try including the '@X for Netbooks' packagegroup Apr 08 12:24:27 k Apr 08 12:24:50 i have included xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.12.99~git0515256490-1.1.i586.rpm in my ks file Apr 08 12:24:55 though some of the packagegroups changed since 1.1, might be that you need different packagegroups there Apr 08 12:25:52 will i get the new groups from the build area? Apr 08 12:27:33 in the repository metadata is a file 'patterns.xml' which contains the group names, and the packages associated with a group Apr 08 12:28:50 (if you're working with obs you can get the same information with 'osc meta pattern ...') Apr 08 12:29:28 yes m workn with obs( my local) .. i suppose i need to integrate all package under "Graphical (X) user interface support for Netbooks" Apr 08 12:30:05 you don't need the user interface, you just need some x-related drivers and probably some configuration files Apr 08 12:30:21 ok Apr 08 12:34:51 timeless_w7ip, not that I know Apr 08 12:34:58 if at all, in the wiki under Quality I think Apr 08 12:36:29 pohly: ping Apr 08 13:07:06 i hope kno inc's textbook tablets use meego :) Apr 08 13:07:45 I hope they can get more than 3 hours battery life Apr 08 13:08:13 :) Apr 08 13:45:13 ~lcuk Apr 08 13:45:13 hmm... lcuk is a mighty good developer, best known for his work on liqbase and helping Nokia with the Identity project during the onedotzero event in London. Apr 08 13:45:35 infobot: seen lcuk? Apr 08 13:45:37 lcuk was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 7d 15h 49m 51s ago, saying: 'thiago_home, do kdelibs load faster then?'. Apr 08 13:51:22 1 week ? we should notify authorities ? Apr 08 13:51:54 :D Apr 08 13:51:58 i think so too Apr 08 14:03:46 He's probably "on holiday" (as they say in the UK) Apr 08 14:04:45 His twitter is also uncharacteristically quiet. Apr 08 14:07:23 yes, another reason to worry Apr 08 14:43:34 gabrbedd: rpm still needs the license hack Apr 08 14:43:48 ^The Apr 08 14:48:29 # Apr 08 14:49:34 slaine: Thanks. Apr 08 14:50:31 it's on my site if you replace 1.1 with 1.2 in the url string, if it's of any benefit Apr 08 14:51:34 meego 1.2 user experience scrum Apr 08 14:53:47 slaine: ok, cool. thanks! Apr 08 16:24:38 good morning, anybody around? I'm trying to boot a meego build from trunk (precompiled) which I got from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk and am having issues with the root device. Apr 08 16:26:43 MrBIOS: What issues? Apr 08 16:26:54 * gabrbedd has to leave for a meeting Apr 08 16:26:59 do you think it might be a BIOS issue? ;) Apr 08 17:01:01 mikeleib, heh no :) Apr 08 17:01:21 mikeleib what am I supposed to do with the img? Is it an initrd? It's complaining about not having a root device Apr 08 17:03:45 MrBIOS: (You probably already know this... but...) The .img file is for booting the OS from a USB stick. However, the .img file is also an .iso file that can be burned to a CD-ROM. (A dual-mode image) Apr 08 17:04:27 MrBIOS: As for initrd -- MeeGo doesn't use one. Apr 08 17:05:12 MrBIOS: So the question is... where is the breakdown happening? Immediately? After you see the grub-like boot screen and say "Boot MeeGo" or "Installation Only..." ?? Apr 08 17:06:33 MrBIOS: Also, in some cases the whole thing boots just fine (X11, UX, etc.), but you get a scary pop-up window warning about "not able to mount root device meego-netbook-blah-blah" -- and you can just ignore that one. Apr 08 17:39:35 * lbt thinks there's an Armenian woman nearby.... Apr 08 17:44:41 lbt: shhhhh, I'm getting part of the copper sales profits Apr 08 17:46:33 does it explain these network splits ? Apr 08 17:51:35 * CosmoHill throws a chair across the room Apr 08 17:51:47 it's weekend, get drunk instead Apr 08 17:51:48 :P Apr 08 17:52:32 I don't think that will help in this case Apr 08 17:52:57 get one of those bean-bag things, more relaxing Apr 08 17:53:01 you missed the point Apr 08 17:53:13 1; get drunk 2. throw chairs Apr 08 17:53:17 * lbt throws a shoelace across the room .... Apr 08 17:53:33 though it's somehow not very satisfying Apr 08 17:54:07 one time I claming disconnected my printer and then swung it over my head into a box Apr 08 17:54:26 something fell out but it still works so whatever Apr 08 17:58:28 PC LOAD LETTER??? Apr 08 17:59:16 looks like an intel meeting just finished Apr 08 18:00:55 Hey DawnFoster Apr 08 18:01:08 hey alterego Apr 08 18:03:45 DawnFoster: someone told me today about a possible exo device program for meego contributers, any more news on this? Apr 08 18:05:02 alterego: I'm hoping to sort that out next week. Apr 08 18:05:32 I *think* we have the devices, but we need to figure out how many I can give away & get the application form online for people to apply for them Apr 08 18:05:38 Nice, it's my birthday on Monday (shameless bribe) :d Apr 08 18:05:53 which reminds me, happy be-lated birthday, DawnFoster :) Apr 08 18:06:02 Stskeeps: thanks! Apr 08 18:06:05 Oh, happy birthday dawn :D Apr 08 18:06:09 when was it? Apr 08 18:06:09 and happy birthday alterego Apr 08 18:06:18 It was Wednesday - the big 40 :) Apr 08 18:06:41 I got to celebrate at the Linux Collaboration Summit Apr 08 18:06:49 Heh, I'd tell you how old I'm going to be but I don't want to make you feel bad ;) Apr 08 18:06:52 that's an .. interesting way to celebrate a birthday Apr 08 18:06:55 Nice :) Apr 08 18:06:57 * w00t_ is turning 24 in april Apr 08 18:07:04 (ooh, that's this month now) Apr 08 18:07:09 I'm thinking of going go-carting Apr 08 18:07:14 DawnFoster: i had honestly put you at 35 or something ;) Apr 08 18:07:18 w00t_: ha! fairly typical of me to celebrate my birthday with a bunch of geeks Apr 08 18:07:28 Stskeeps: that's very nice of you! Apr 08 18:07:33 Stskeeps: the official highest age women get up to is 29, fwiw Apr 08 18:07:34 :P Apr 08 18:07:46 It helps that I *refuse* to act my age :) Apr 08 18:08:14 nah - if you say you're 29 & look 35 people think you look terrible for your age Apr 08 18:08:56 I guess I'll be in that boat Apr 08 18:09:02 people always say they think I'm older than I am Apr 08 18:09:04 :P Apr 08 18:09:15 Best say you're 60 then :D Apr 08 18:09:24 I'd rather admit my real age & just take it Apr 08 18:09:34 :) Apr 08 18:09:45 40 isn't as bad as it used to be 100 years ago :P Apr 08 18:09:55 exactly! Apr 08 18:09:59 God I wish I'm going to age as well as my dad (60 now) Apr 08 18:10:05 I'm I'm healthy / happy - no complaints Apr 08 18:10:09 :) Apr 08 18:10:46 So, I've implemented waypoint projections into Columbus now. Best concentrate on the last major feature for v1 which is tracklog loading. Apr 08 18:10:54 w00t_: I thought you were older Apr 08 18:11:17 then again you're just 5 blue characters to me so it's kinda hard to judge Apr 08 18:13:10 I thought he was older too, closer to my age (28 on Monday) Apr 08 18:13:53 (see?) Apr 08 18:13:57 anyone wanna take a guess on my age? Apr 08 18:14:05 22 Apr 08 18:14:07 26 Apr 08 18:14:16 CosmoHill: 14? Apr 08 18:14:20 17 Apr 08 18:14:26 256 Apr 08 18:14:26 What do I win? Apr 08 18:14:27 (nah, uni, so at least 17-19..) Apr 08 18:14:35 Oh, 19 then Apr 08 18:14:36 I'm gonna large if the average is correct Apr 08 18:14:44 alterego: free toaster! Apr 08 18:14:46 laugh* Apr 08 18:14:51 * alterego chuckles Apr 08 18:14:55 Stskeeps: I'm > 20 and thinking of going to uni (and kamilla is also > 20 and going to uni, though admittedly in her 4th year) Apr 08 18:14:55 Is it a MeeGo toaster? Apr 08 18:15:05 Toasts MeeGo minions on the bread? Apr 08 18:15:10 there is a 82 year old on my course Apr 08 18:15:26 Wow CosmoHill what are you studying? Apr 08 18:15:28 alterego: i'd -love- a meego toaster Apr 08 18:15:28 :P Apr 08 18:15:29 24 is the new 19! Apr 08 18:15:58 GAN900: in that case I'm 17 Apr 08 18:16:03 * CosmoHill is 22 and 9 days old :) Apr 08 18:16:04 w00t_, turning 24 in October. I frequently can't remember how old I am. <_< Apr 08 18:16:42 GAN900: :o Apr 08 18:16:50 I have trouble with the years, too Apr 08 18:17:03 I always think GAN900 is like a 400 yo immortal edlar wizzard or something. Apr 08 18:17:06 we're in a channel full of sub-30 year olds but we all think each other is older Apr 08 18:17:46 I think there's some strange condition where you always presume you're the youngest ;) Apr 08 18:18:18 the other channel I'm in I keep track of the young ones so I pretty much know everyone under 25 Apr 08 18:18:45 * w00t_ is happy to be referred to as a 'young one' still Apr 08 18:18:47 :) Apr 08 18:18:51 me too Apr 08 18:19:17 my friend calls me a youngen even tho she's 5 months older than me Apr 08 18:19:28 CosmoHill, how old am I? Apr 08 18:20:02 * CosmoHill looks at iekku with the "do I know you" face Apr 08 18:20:10 27? Apr 08 18:20:16 or 19 Apr 08 18:20:29 :D Apr 08 18:20:57 17 is more like my real age, according how i behave :P Apr 08 18:21:17 I'm 12 Apr 08 18:21:19 iekku: once you hit 20 it becomes hard to notice Apr 08 18:21:43 * gabrbedd > 30 Apr 08 18:22:00 gabrbedd: I'd of said you're 20 something Apr 08 18:22:17 sure that something may have been +14 but I digress Apr 08 18:22:46 I have been 29 for longer than I can remember Apr 08 18:23:06 berndhs: you remember my birthday don't you? Apr 08 18:23:23 on a side note I missed most of the following day's lectures Apr 08 18:23:25 vaguely, I was 29 before that :) Apr 08 18:23:54 CosmoHill: ok. don't know if that's good or bad. :-) Apr 08 18:26:09 is there support for the linux auto bug reporting tool in meego? Apr 08 18:26:36 I have a lot of booze and my grandad disapproves of it purely on the grounds that it's cider and not beer Apr 08 18:26:59 boo, reggie isn't on IRC Apr 08 18:27:19 at the moment, maybe Apr 08 18:27:46 abrt is in 1.0 and 1.1 but I don't see it in trunk Apr 08 18:28:51 corewatcher is used now i think Apr 08 18:29:15 ah, thanks Apr 08 18:29:20 yeah, that's in trunk. Apr 08 18:34:14 is there plugin support for corewatcher? it looks like it'll just send the core off to a configured url Apr 08 19:12:46 alterego, only if by "elder wizard" you mean "full of shit". :P Apr 08 19:13:10 :) Apr 08 19:14:10 alterego: I couldn't stop myself... so I proto'd a strobe tuner yesterday eve. :-) Apr 08 19:14:24 gabrbedd: :) Apr 08 19:14:26 Cool Apr 08 19:15:02 I've been working on Columbus again, I couldn't sleep last night so I implemented a heart rate calculator though :D Apr 08 19:15:06 In bed, ony my N900 Apr 08 19:16:44 alterego: :-) Apr 08 19:17:42 alterego: I used RST38h 's suggestion to find zero crossovers. Apr 08 19:24:53 gabrbedd: oh yeah? What was his suggestion? I must have missed that. Apr 08 19:26:07 alterego: Instead of doing FFT, look for where the signal crosses zero and use that to calculate freq. Apr 08 19:26:34 Yeah, I got that, I thought you meant how to do zero cross overs :P Apr 08 19:26:40 Like he had some magical method for it :D Apr 08 19:28:38 alterego: No... I brought my own majic. Apr 08 19:28:50 :) Apr 08 19:52:56 :) Apr 08 20:44:18 * CosmoHill twitches as a blank page comes out his printer Apr 08 21:01:03 ~seen lcuk Apr 08 21:01:16 lcuk was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 7d 23h 5m 28s ago, saying: 'thiago_home, do kdelibs load faster then?'. Apr 08 21:01:33 what the heck? I hope lcuk is okay Apr 08 21:05:33 i swear I saw his nick not to long ago Apr 08 21:06:11 yeah people wondering where he is Apr 08 21:06:47 ~seen lcuk* Apr 08 21:06:51 CosmoHill: i haven't seen 'lcuk*' Apr 08 21:07:59 last "tweet" was the 4th of april Apr 08 21:10:12 someone should check his house Apr 08 21:12:24 curse you both, I wasn't worried until you two were Apr 08 21:19:27 I've not heard from him since the 4th, but I could have sworn he was doing something. Apr 08 21:19:28 Isn't "teebee" his wife? (twitter) Apr 08 21:19:46 I've seen recent tweets from here that are /not/ alarming at all. Apr 08 21:20:16 In fact, some are directed at lcuk. Apr 08 21:20:27 maybe he changed his name Apr 08 21:20:28 maybe one week would be a normal vacation... Apr 08 21:21:12 maybe he gave up the internet for lent Apr 08 21:21:35 timakima, hope thats the case Apr 08 21:23:16 I think he said he was going somewhere. Apr 08 21:23:19 Without internet :P Apr 08 21:23:33 But my logs don't go back that far Apr 08 21:23:44 And this was probably on meego-arm Apr 08 21:26:46 My daughter once posted on FB "We're leaving to spend a week at my grandmother's in Tennessee..." Apr 08 21:27:06 I told her, "Why don't you just add... '...so feel free to rob our house!' ?" Apr 08 21:27:12 And I told her to take it down. Apr 08 21:27:17 :-) Apr 08 21:27:27 i once decided to take a break from ircnet Apr 08 21:27:50 ... the next morning i got a phone call: "are you ok?" Apr 08 21:28:26 yeah, and they say internet is impersonal Apr 08 21:29:52 still it's nice to see people care Apr 08 21:31:00 probably more than most next-door neighbors Apr 08 21:36:10 gabrbedd: there's always pleaserobme.com Apr 08 21:36:16 which uses twitter location stuff ;) Apr 08 21:38:17 fb foursquare is also quite interesting. people are posting real time that they aren't at home :) Apr 08 21:38:59 "now i'm visiting my local grocery to buy bananas" - "gee that's interesting" Apr 08 21:39:49 it's a cover for their real, much more sinister, activities Apr 08 21:48:18 arjan\: Yes! Apr 08 21:54:50 arjan\: BTW, pleaserobme is no longer posting that info. Front page more or less says that they accomplished their mission to raise awareness and are considering next steps. Apr 08 22:03:22 maybe someone got robbed? Apr 08 23:15:48 hey alterego :) Apr 08 23:21:03 anyone know where the daily images are posted? Apr 08 23:25:20 rustylynch: http://download.meego.com/testing-daily/builds/ Apr 08 23:26:25 Anyhow, I'm off. Apr 08 23:34:44 cyas Apr 08 23:56:49 alterego: thnx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 09 02:59:57 2011