**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 09 02:59:58 2011
Apr 09 05:43:34 <amjad> morning
Apr 09 06:22:50 <iekku> morning
Apr 09 07:09:29 <Termana> morning
Apr 09 07:19:53 <iekku> ~timoph
Apr 09 07:20:02 <iekku> hm, nothing :D
Apr 09 07:20:30 <timoph> :)
Apr 09 07:22:32 <iekku> timoph, bot doesn't know anything about you
Apr 09 07:22:55 <timoph> btw, any news about acceptance of the first bunch of conference session proposals?
Apr 09 07:23:20 <timoph> iekku: yep. I'm a complete mystery to it
Apr 09 07:24:09 <Stskeeps> timoph: i had kinda expected the mails to go out yesterday
Apr 09 07:27:39 <Stskeeps> timoph: i'll ask
Apr 09 07:28:05 <timoph> Stskeeps: thanks
Apr 09 07:28:58 <Stskeeps> if you don't get emails this time around it doesn't mean you haven't been accepted, when you get an email saying you're not, you're not ;)
Apr 09 07:30:15 <timoph> :)
Apr 09 07:31:49 <timoph> http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/accepted <- needs updating
Apr 09 07:32:04 <Stskeeps> yeah
Apr 09 07:32:05 <Stskeeps> :P
Apr 09 07:32:10 <timoph> still says "by April 4th" :)
Apr 09 07:32:33 <iekku> i think there was some actionpoints given about the updating the date :D
Apr 09 07:32:44 <Stskeeps> it was fixed in the place we noticed
Apr 09 07:32:54 <timoph> IIRC that was a different page
Apr 09 07:34:27 <iekku> updating webpages can be annoying
Apr 09 08:34:05 <lbt> mornings
Apr 09 09:13:35 <arfoll_> anyone know how icons are found in the tablet UX?
Apr 09 09:14:04 <Stskeeps>  /usr/share/themes ?
Apr 09 09:15:44 <arfoll_> Stskeeps, i thought /usr/share/icons was the normal place for icons
Apr 09 09:16:15 <Stskeeps> maybe, but themes usually comes with gfx too :P
Apr 09 09:17:09 <arfoll_> my problem is that my app that had an icon in netbook UX, installs on tablet uX and doesn't have one
Apr 09 09:17:16 <Stskeeps> hmm
Apr 09 09:17:33 <arfoll_> the icon is in /usr/share/icons/hicolor like normal but it doesn't get loaded
Apr 09 09:17:46 <arfoll_> is there a debug log at startup that might be useful?
Apr 09 09:24:25 <arfoll_> pngs with +x... nice
Apr 09 09:29:40 <wazd> Hello there
Apr 09 09:58:46 <mikhas> the wiki keeps losing my login status
Apr 09 09:58:52 <mikhas> whenever  I restart the browser
Apr 09 09:58:55 <Stskeeps> hasn't done that for ages with me
Apr 09 09:58:59 <Stskeeps> login from meego.com
Apr 09 09:59:01 <mikhas> but the meego.com website keeps it
Apr 09 09:59:04 <mikhas> I do that
Apr 09 09:59:57 <mikhas> lol
Apr 09 10:00:04 <mikhas> I need to go to prefs in the wiki of course
Apr 09 10:00:22 <mikhas> "[ ] Remember my login on this computer" - why yes please!
Apr 09 10:00:50 <lbt> ooh .. MS just called... I have a problem on my PC...
Apr 09 10:01:01 <Stskeeps> lbt: did you troll them hard?
Apr 09 10:01:07 <lbt> still on the line
Apr 09 10:01:22 <lbt> windows - R
Apr 09 10:01:31 <mikhas> ask them how you install macos on top of window7
Apr 09 10:02:02 <lbt> run box ...
Apr 09 10:02:15 <timoph> :)
Apr 09 10:02:52 <lbt> www.logmein123.com
Apr 09 10:03:05 <Stskeeps> heh
Apr 09 10:03:50 <lbt> quote "all riiiihght" .. you can hear him smiling
Apr 09 10:04:11 <Stskeeps> "it's asking for a root password"
Apr 09 10:04:50 <lbt> "it just vanished"
Apr 09 10:04:58 <lbt> I'll get a downloading box
Apr 09 10:05:47 <lbt> 467480 if anyone wants a virus
Apr 09 10:12:39 <lbt> telling him about my ferrari
Apr 09 10:12:51 <lbt> and my trip to the US on my friends jet
Apr 09 10:13:37 <lbt> got my AOL page now...
Apr 09 10:14:12 <Stskeeps> you have a boring saturday, i hear
Apr 09 10:14:13 <Stskeeps> :P
Apr 09 10:15:39 <lbt> *g*
Apr 09 10:16:16 * Stskeeps spends his translating the local place's pizza menu using google translate..
Apr 09 10:16:19 <Stskeeps> :P
Apr 09 10:17:51 <alterego> Heh
Apr 09 10:18:08 <Stskeeps> at least they have a homepage
Apr 09 10:18:08 <Stskeeps> ;P
Apr 09 10:21:56 <dm8tbr> Stskeeps: your polcrypt codec not trained enough yet?
Apr 09 10:23:17 <Stskeeps> dm8tbr: dzien dobry. po prosze duzo 'big ben' pizza, do domu, bez sós.. or something
Apr 09 10:23:20 <Stskeeps> :P
Apr 09 10:23:27 <dm8tbr> :D
Apr 09 10:23:48 <Stskeeps> i know enough to get my point across
Apr 09 10:23:53 <dm8tbr> bardzo dobrze, trzy plus ;-p
Apr 09 10:24:27 <dm8tbr> my problem is that I need to get my fincrypt ENcoder going, decoding works on a basic level
Apr 09 10:24:59 <dm8tbr> but looks like I might get some training organized by my employer
Apr 09 10:29:23 <lbt> apparently if I go make coffee they stay on the line
Apr 09 10:35:34 <Stskeeps> meh, broken pizza oven
Apr 09 10:35:51 * Stskeeps looks after online pizza ordering places
Apr 09 10:37:05 * lbt checks date
Apr 09 10:38:14 <lbt> 40min so far
Apr 09 10:38:32 <Stskeeps> sure you're not by chance getting charged? :P
Apr 09 10:38:45 <lbt> nah, can't do that to a landline here
Apr 09 10:38:51 <lbt> they are
Apr 09 10:39:10 <lbt> and it's 40mins he's not ripping someone else off
Apr 09 10:39:18 <Stskeeps> point
Apr 09 10:39:23 <lbt> mostly he's on mute until he shouts me
Apr 09 10:40:28 <lbt> it boots up *really* slowly...been thinking about buying a new laptop...
Apr 09 10:40:43 <lbt> so if they can fix it it'll save me £500
Apr 09 10:40:45 <lbt> :)
Apr 09 10:41:09 <Stskeeps> hah :P
Apr 09 10:41:18 <lbt> he'll hang on
Apr 09 10:41:40 <Stskeeps> btw, is there any good ways to turn a non-linked package into one?
Apr 09 10:41:48 <Stskeeps> with proper project.diff and such
Apr 09 10:42:07 <lbt> other than delete and link
Apr 09 10:42:20 <lbt> and apply diff
Apr 09 10:42:25 <Stskeeps> ok
Apr 09 10:43:21 <dm8tbr> speaking of obs...
Apr 09 10:43:39 * dm8tbr has to take a trip to the office, the old OBS crapped out while migrating to new hardware
Apr 09 10:50:43 <lbt> X-Fade: ping
Apr 09 11:20:29 <lbt> 1hr 21 mins ....
Apr 09 11:21:00 <dm8tbr> having serious fun, eh?
Apr 09 11:21:12 <lbt> nah ... that was when he hung up
Apr 09 11:21:34 <lbt> just left him on mute for 15 mins at a stretch
Apr 09 15:17:30 * CosmoHill wonders if he could cope with a downgrade of 5MP to 3.2MP camera phone
Apr 09 15:18:10 <CosmoHill> the main reason I've stuck with my nokia is because it's got more features than my SE, but I don't use them enough
Apr 09 16:29:31 * CosmoHill sighs cos most of the stuff he owes should be replaced
Apr 09 16:46:43 <Bostik> okay, I solved the qt build issue; the one missing key ingredient was "--target=i586" for rpmbuild, after which the arch selector worked its magic
Apr 09 16:46:53 <Bostik> however, I did come across this... http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/merge_requests/1177
Apr 09 16:47:05 <Bostik> seems it was a real bug after all :)
Apr 09 16:54:11 * thiago looks at the channel name
Apr 09 16:54:15 <thiago> no, it's not a real issue for this channel
Apr 09 16:54:29 <thiago> unless you're using RPMs on Solaris and talking about it in the MeeGo channel
Apr 09 16:58:31 <iekku> thiago, any news the presentations to SF?
Apr 09 16:59:16 <iekku> about the...
Apr 09 16:59:26 * iekku just can't write
Apr 09 17:00:23 <thiago> oh, we've reviewed the first round
Apr 09 17:00:30 <thiago> we just forgot to send the email to the person who announces them
Apr 09 17:00:47 <iekku> thiago, are you going to do that soon?
Apr 09 17:01:47 <thiago> I've just sent an email to Dirk and Carsten to confirm my understanding, then I'll send to Ashley
Apr 09 17:02:04 <iekku> ok :)
Apr 09 17:02:23 <iekku> i'm not the only one who has been asking today :)
Apr 09 17:02:30 <thiago> there's a lot of good stuff, it's hard to choose
Apr 09 17:02:44 <iekku> thiago, i don't envy you
Apr 09 17:03:22 <Bostik> thiago: I got hit by it due to qatomic_generic.h apparently sporting something quite similar - and that popped up while I was trying to tweak qt.spec for stock meego package
Apr 09 17:04:31 <thiago> nothing should be using the generic version
Apr 09 17:05:48 <thiago> iekku: Stskeeps has just ack'ed, now we're waiting for dirkhh
Apr 09 17:06:49 <iekku> thiago, ok, thanks for the information
Apr 09 17:07:03 <Bostik> so I figured .. eventually; it was the build environment after all, since OBS sets the target architecture while my manual builds didn't -> bomf
Apr 09 18:05:44 <ChameleonSys> will meego run on a moto droid?
Apr 09 18:06:20 <CosmoHill> only if you port it
Apr 09 18:07:23 <ChameleonSys> does it have cdma and gsm capabilities both?
Apr 09 18:08:33 <CosmoHill> I have no idea, I don't think the Droid is available in my coutry
Apr 09 18:14:05 <dm8tbr> it's an OMAP 3430, so it wouldn't be thaaaat hard to get the basic functionality
Apr 09 18:14:57 <bdale> ChameleonSys: the ofono update at the LF collab summit yesterday indicated that there has been some initial cdma content merged, but that it is currently not being worked on more .. so gsm is in good shape and cdma less so
Apr 09 19:29:12 <gabrbedd> rustylynch: thanks for your ML answer... good answer!  I'm mulling it over...
Apr 09 19:32:44 * CosmoHill gives gabrbedd some tea to help him mull
Apr 09 19:35:17 <gabrbedd> mmmmm.... thanks, bro
Apr 09 19:37:43 <berndhs> isn't it an iffy design principle to rely on a specific hardware button to be there for tablets ?
Apr 09 19:39:30 <berndhs> gabrbedd: that was for you and rustylynch :)
Apr 09 19:41:16 <gabrbedd> berndhs: I could argue it both ways.  I'd prefer for a software solution to exist... but the device I'm shipping has a button so I'm not going to pick a fight over a hypothetical.
Apr 09 19:41:34 <gabrbedd> I've seen tablets with no HW buttons... but they were crappy tablets, anywa.
Apr 09 19:42:04 <berndhs> yes probably, from a pragmatic way at this time
Apr 09 19:42:10 <gabrbedd> It was news to me that applications could be /closed/ using the Tablet app switcher.
Apr 09 19:42:44 <berndhs> but next year, some marketing genius can say that hardware buttons to close apps are evil, and be believed
Apr 09 19:45:36 <CosmoHill> if they have no HW buttons, how do you restart them when they crash?
Apr 09 19:45:58 <berndhs> this was about closing apps
Apr 09 19:46:04 <CosmoHill> ah sorry
Apr 09 19:46:13 <berndhs> a buttons is expected to exist for that purpose
Apr 09 19:53:52 <CosmoHill> I seem to have killed your convo, sorry
Apr 09 19:54:38 <berndhs> nah, not real important
Apr 09 19:54:58 <berndhs> nobody was going to ask me, so I just volunteered an opinion :)
Apr 09 19:58:33 * CosmoHill wonders why he only likes loud music after dark
Apr 09 21:21:16 * CosmoHill 's head explodes as he watches a hypercube rotate in 4 dimensions 
Apr 09 21:23:31 <gabrbedd> CosmoHill: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonlounge/stringXKCD.jpg
Apr 09 21:24:01 <CosmoHill> rofl
Apr 09 21:59:45 <jonni> is there any easy shortcut to make screenshot in Meego Netbook? like crtl-shift-something
Apr 09 22:00:14 <CosmoHill> doesn't your netbook have a print screen button?
Apr 09 22:01:21 <jonni> ah, yes, that works, didnt thing about it :)
Apr 09 22:01:28 <jonni> thanks
Apr 09 22:03:11 <jonni> s/thing/think/
Apr 09 22:08:46 <CosmoHill> jonni: I was worse, I was talking screen shots with my camera before I remembered the button
Apr 09 22:14:16 <jonni> heh, needed to make some shots for next fridays MeeGo Summit FI :)
Apr 09 22:23:32 <CosmoHill> http://black-flag.co.uk/wordpress/2011/01/26/rhel-6-and-nvidia/ << last screen shot I took and put online
Apr 09 22:23:55 <CosmoHill> it's completely anonymous, apart from my username >.>
Apr 09 22:54:39 <jaime> hello
Apr 09 22:54:53 <berndhs> jaime: yo
Apr 09 22:55:56 <vallfarta> hello
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