**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 15 02:59:57 2011 Apr 15 03:31:58 morning Apr 15 03:33:56 evening Apr 15 03:34:03 mood groaning Apr 15 05:18:22 There is btw. Qt videos coming from MeeGo summit at some point. http://summit.meegonetwork.fi/ Apr 15 05:49:12 on what fedora version meego is based? Apr 15 05:52:50 error while compiling ./demo/widgetsgallery: itemdetailpage.cpp:28:20: fatal error: QtOpenGL: No such file or directory Apr 15 05:53:35 QtOpenGL related error which is missing in my environment Apr 15 06:30:39 http://meegosummit.bfst.de:8000/stream1.ogv - live from the keynote Apr 15 07:07:16 morning Apr 15 07:15:49 morning Apr 15 07:19:02 dm8tbr, is there any better quality, i'm feeling myself like a spy watching secret simpozium through the hole in the wall Apr 15 07:19:57 naquad: we're going through a ad-hock setup 3G/UMTS connection for the keynotes, so no sorry not possible Apr 15 07:20:23 the talks later will be full pal high quality hopefully as we have ethernet there Apr 15 07:20:25 dm8tbr, omg :) thats serious. how many clients atm? Apr 15 07:20:35 there will be hq recordings thourhg Apr 15 07:20:58 about 30 viewers Apr 15 07:21:13 cool Apr 15 07:21:14 ok streams over for the break Apr 15 07:31:57 what's the distro and setup of meego build server? i need to build chromium, but it doesn't build on x32, only on x64 Apr 15 07:32:29 naquad: openSUSE 11.3 afaik. Apr 15 07:32:36 X-Fade, thank you Apr 15 07:32:58 naquad: Did you try a local build? Apr 15 07:33:35 X-Fade, local what? i've tried to make on meego running in virtualbox with 4G of ram, but epic fail, in the end lots of segfaults, updating binutils didn't help Apr 15 07:33:59 naquad: What are you trying to do? Apr 15 07:34:14 build chromium Apr 15 07:34:27 naquad: You don't need virtual box for that. Apr 15 07:34:40 i need to build rpm from it later Apr 15 07:34:42 naquad: osc build sets up a chroot for you and builds it on your system. Apr 15 07:34:53 wait Apr 15 07:34:57 what is osc? Apr 15 07:35:03 and where do i get one? :) Apr 15 07:35:11 btw i've got arch linux distro, does that matter? Apr 15 07:36:13 naquad: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers/CLI_Part_4 Apr 15 07:36:34 Well, you might want to start with part 1 though ;) Apr 15 07:36:50 thank you! Apr 15 07:36:51 I am not sure there are packages for arch linux. Apr 15 07:37:27 i see there's osc-git in arch Apr 15 07:37:32 It is known to work on opensuse, fedora, debian and ubuntu for sure. Apr 15 07:40:55 X-Fade, a noob question: it asks for account, but i don't have one, where should i register? Apr 15 07:41:52 naquad: For which one? Apr 15 07:42:14 i'm trying to use api.pub.meego.com (because as i understand its public) Apr 15 07:42:33 naquad: Yeah, I can enable your account for that. Apr 15 07:42:41 naquad: What is your meego.com username? Apr 15 07:42:55 it'll be naquad in couple of minutes :) Apr 15 07:43:08 naquad: Ok, then you'll have to ping me in an hour or so :) Apr 15 07:43:19 naquad: As we sync users once per hour. Apr 15 07:45:10 X-Fade, account is "naquad" Apr 15 07:52:56 ok, stream is back with slght adjustments and jens is also adjusting the summit webpage to embed the video Apr 15 07:54:51 * timeless_w7ip smiles Apr 15 07:54:52 btw, as i see there's no step 3 Apr 15 07:55:09 which is exactly what i want: edit and localbuild Apr 15 07:55:16 * timeless_w7ip cheers that meego has now sent 3 bugs upstream for SWI-Prolog Apr 15 07:55:22 "progress"! Apr 15 07:55:55 naquad: After a local build fails, the build root remains. So you can just chroot into it. Apr 15 07:56:04 ahh ok Apr 15 07:56:06 thank you Apr 15 07:59:58 naquad: Your account has been enabled. Apr 15 08:00:06 X-Fade, thank you :) Apr 15 08:02:33 timeless_w7ip, congrats :) Apr 15 08:28:46 headsup stream url changed port! Apr 15 08:30:34 to which ? Apr 15 08:31:26 http://meegosummit.bfst.de:61661/stream1.ogv Apr 15 08:31:42 we got bandwith from kapsi and had to accomodate their port Apr 15 08:35:34 hi Apr 15 08:36:50 lo Apr 15 08:50:51 hmmm i'm trying to osc co chromium, but it says there's no such package and i can't find on project page at build.meego.com Apr 15 08:50:55 what am i doing wrong? Apr 15 08:51:39 naquad: MeeGo.com:Trunk ? Apr 15 08:52:03 X-Fade, doing that Apr 15 08:53:16 X-Fade, works ok, but it downloads whole system as i understand Apr 15 08:53:26 while i need only chromium with its deps and build tools Apr 15 08:53:28 naquad: Just add the package name you need ;) Apr 15 08:53:45 naquad: You don't want the whole trunk. Apr 15 08:53:54 losc co MeeGo.com:Trunk/chromium Apr 15 08:53:56 that worked Apr 15 08:53:57 somehow :) Apr 15 08:54:01 thank you Apr 15 08:54:24 its really slooow Apr 15 09:21:19 Error: you need build.rpm with version 2007.3.12 or newer. - ermm how do i get that? Apr 15 09:22:45 naquad: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/tools/repos/opensuse/11.2/noarch/build-2011.01.10a-3.1.noarch.rpm Apr 15 09:22:48 X-Fade, is there at least any manual able to show how to build package? Apr 15 09:23:20 X-Fade, won't do, i've got arch linux, it doesn't use rpms Apr 15 09:23:33 i thought that osc will download everything it needs and run build process there Apr 15 09:23:52 There are just build scripts in there. Apr 15 09:24:02 crap... Apr 15 09:24:08 then this thing is useless in my case Apr 15 09:24:26 btw, what is the fedora version meego is based on? Apr 15 09:24:30 There is source for it too. Apr 15 09:25:09 but I'm pretty sure your arch has rpm too. Apr 15 09:26:13 X-Fade, that won't help, i've got rpm installed, but i need full environment with dependencies Apr 15 09:26:34 naquad: No, that is what osc sets up for you. Apr 15 09:26:54 so does it manage deps or not? i didn't get it :( Apr 15 09:27:27 Yes, everything meego it will download. Apr 15 09:28:12 X-Fade, i hope it doesn't change system it works on. does it? Apr 15 09:28:22 naquad: chroot :) Apr 15 09:30:39 naquad: It seems arch has osc-build-git? Apr 15 09:30:58 yes Apr 15 09:31:00 installed it Apr 15 09:32:46 Well, those are the scripts you need. Apr 15 09:33:46 X-Fade: do you use osc to build things locally? I'm having issue issuing an osc build with the armv8el architecture. Apr 15 09:34:07 It doesn't finish building the chroot environment, seems to lock on installing some package. Apr 15 09:34:10 alterego: Did you install qemu-arm-static or something like that? Apr 15 09:34:21 * alterego is thinking he needs to update qemu Apr 15 09:34:35 yes, >= 0.13 iirc. Apr 15 09:34:37 X-Fade: oh, do I not need qemu from meego sdk installed? Apr 15 09:35:03 It'd be nicer if the chroot provided it's own qemu build :) Apr 15 09:35:06 alterego: No, the armv8 stuff needs new stuff. Apr 15 09:35:18 Okay, I'll look into it, thanks. Apr 15 09:35:43 I use the qemu from debian unstable, that works. Apr 15 09:35:54 I'm on ubuntu Apr 15 09:35:57 10.10 Apr 15 09:35:59 for ubuntu the one from natty. Apr 15 09:41:21 Ah, I've got v 0.12.5 of qemu-arm-static Apr 15 09:43:54 if i did co package to local drive, how do i make osc to build it? Apr 15 09:43:59 alterego: Yeah, not new enough. Apr 15 09:44:18 So where can I get newer? Or should I just build from source? :) Apr 15 09:44:20 naquad: cd packagename; osc build Apr 15 09:44:32 alterego: Get it from natty? Apr 15 09:44:48 X-Fade, thank you. w/o this step 3 in wiki docs don't really help :( Apr 15 09:45:01 Ah, m'kay Apr 15 09:45:11 naquad: Opportunity for you to fill in the blanks :) Apr 15 09:45:37 X-Fade, first i'll build this !@# package, then if'll succeed i'll make up something on weekend Apr 15 09:47:55 X-Fade: is that qemu-linaro? Apr 15 09:48:12 alterego: no qemu-kvm or something like that. Apr 15 09:48:18 Ah, m'kay Apr 15 09:48:29 They renamed it apparently. Apr 15 09:48:35 Yeah, I think the source package is qemu-linaro Apr 15 09:52:46 X-Fade, a stupid q: how do i make osc build to build package for x32 arch? Apr 15 09:52:51 *architecture i mean Apr 15 09:52:59 osc build i586 Apr 15 09:53:08 aaah Apr 15 09:53:11 i was trying ia32 Apr 15 09:53:37 ERROR: Either wrong repo/arch as parameter or a parse error of .spec/.dsc/.kiwi file due to syntax error Apr 15 09:53:38 hm Apr 15 09:59:33 naquad: needs project name before arch, sorry. Apr 15 09:59:53 chromium is not a valid repository, use one of: standard, weekly Apr 15 10:00:00 standard Apr 15 10:00:23 Unknown build type: ''. Build description should end in .spec, .dsc or .kiwi. Apr 15 10:00:37 that thing is just a cave of errors :) Apr 15 10:02:57 X-Fade, any ideas how do i run it? Apr 15 10:05:11 kallam: =) Apr 15 10:05:21 kallam: can i get you to go through some of the other bugs i've filed? Apr 15 10:11:35 X-Fade, i've tried like this: osc build standard chromium.spec and still i get error message: "ERROR: Either wrong repo/arch as parameter or a parse error of .spec/.dsc/.kiwi file due to syntax error" - is there at least some way to find out what am i doing wrong? Apr 15 10:14:02 http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/ident?i=pa_zero Apr 15 10:14:05 * timeless_mbp sighs Apr 15 10:28:21 Yay, it's all working with the new qemu from Natty :D Apr 15 10:28:32 Thanks X-Fade :D Apr 15 10:38:47 are there any examples on how to build packages for meego with osc? Apr 15 10:39:17 you mean OBS? Apr 15 10:39:24 yeah, sorry Apr 15 10:39:41 CosmoHill, i've got stuck with this error: ERROR: Either wrong repo/arch as parameter or a parse error of .spec/.dsc/.kiwi file due to syntax error Apr 15 10:40:07 does it give a line of the spec file and can I see the spec file Apr 15 10:40:29 i did osc co MeeGo.com:Trunk/chromium; did cd to dir, and trying to do osc build standard chromium.spec Apr 15 10:40:34 chromium.spec is rpm spec Apr 15 10:40:42 or i don't understand something? Apr 15 10:41:31 meego packages should build without any issues unless they've been modified Apr 15 10:42:23 http://pastebin.com/CJjWf8qx Apr 15 10:42:29 thats the spec Apr 15 10:42:32 its not modified Apr 15 10:42:57 once again, all i did is osc co MeeGo.com:Trunk/chromium and trying to osc build ... no changes were made Apr 15 10:43:15 naquad: what architecture? Apr 15 10:43:36 why would you want to rebuilt a non-modified meego package when you can install it via zypper? Apr 15 10:44:16 That error occurs when you've not configured the correct architecture or repo in you obs account for that project Apr 15 10:46:50 alterego, x86_64 Apr 15 10:47:07 CosmoHill, i'm trying to build it first, i'll apply my patch later Apr 15 10:47:19 ah Apr 15 10:47:29 alterego, i don't have that project anywhere i didn't do osc branch ... Apr 15 10:47:36 MeeGo is 32bit, that would be why it's failing cos it can't find any 64bit libs Apr 15 10:53:01 CosmoHill, can you tell me how do i run osc build? i'm running it as osc build standard chromium i586 chromium.spec ## this is rpm spec, maybe i need some other? Apr 15 10:53:06 and get this stupid error Apr 15 10:53:08 any ideas? Apr 15 10:53:28 what is OSC? Apr 15 10:54:04 thing that i've installed for building packages Apr 15 10:54:23 http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers/CLI_Part_1 Apr 15 10:54:49 naquad: that's right, but you need to check that i586 is a selected arch in you obs account for the repos you have for that project Apr 15 10:55:16 alterego, doing that, but i thought setting arch is enough Apr 15 10:55:23 hmm, I've only used OBS via the web interface Apr 15 10:57:00 X-Fade, you've told me my account is added to api.pub.meego.site site, do i need separate account for build.meego.com? Apr 15 10:57:15 meego summit FI finished? Apr 15 10:57:52 well streaming doesnt work properly :/ Apr 15 10:58:11 naquad: no you don't Apr 15 10:58:50 alterego, i can't login :( Apr 15 10:58:56 naquad: go to "My Projects" and find your chromium branch, then click on repos tab and check it's checked Apr 15 10:59:15 naquad: pub.obs.meego.com account? Apr 15 10:59:30 *.pub.meego.com is the community OBS Apr 15 10:59:42 build.meego.com is only for offical meego developers Apr 15 10:59:55 Server not found Apr 15 11:00:14 http://build.pub.meego.com Apr 15 11:00:50 CosmoHill, thank you, i've logged in Apr 15 11:04:09 Heh, whoops :) Apr 15 11:16:38 i've created a home project with 1 package copied from chromium. did co. now how do i build it? Apr 15 11:16:42 locally Apr 15 11:24:00 how to add latest target in my MADDE Apr 15 11:25:25 bkalinga: I think you need to create config in madde.conf.d Apr 15 11:56:20 * rzr is looking for meego device owners Apr 15 11:56:55 g81: could you please point out any link how do i do that .. Apr 15 12:06:15 bkalinga: I don't know if there are any instructions on inet, simply cd /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/cache/madde.conf.d Apr 15 12:06:50 yeah i am inside that directory Apr 15 12:06:54 and create new conf file, or update an existing Apr 15 12:07:36 what must be the content Apr 15 12:07:45 can i copy paste from older ones Apr 15 12:08:01 i am afraid to modify them manually Apr 15 12:08:25 but I don't think that there is any automated or GUI tool to do that.. Apr 15 12:10:04 ok let me try out carefully Apr 15 12:10:23 thanks eg81: for your help Apr 15 12:23:18 Is there any dedicated IRC channel for QEMU-meego related QA Apr 15 12:23:57 nope Apr 15 12:24:01 i am facing a black screen problem while power on my QEMU meego-handset-ia32-qemu-1.1.99.0.20110329.5-runtime Apr 15 12:24:30 It frozes with the black screen Apr 15 12:24:52 I am able to do ssh -p 6666 meego@127.0.0.1 Apr 15 12:25:35 and when ichecked for the process list i saw there is noting running related to "theme" Apr 15 12:25:59 here is the ps-eaf : http://pastebin.com/c8Avqgdr Apr 15 12:30:57 I have the same issue with this meego-handset version Apr 15 12:31:54 did u able to resolve Apr 15 12:32:05 i am facing this on qemu Apr 15 12:32:22 anyone facing this problem..please share the info Apr 15 12:35:20 bkalinga: have you looked on the forums or mailing lists? Apr 15 12:39:53 to me it looks like a bug in this image, trying now to download latest and check if I can boot it and get home screen Apr 15 12:40:22 oo, might want to also search the IRC chat logs Apr 15 12:42:07 please give link where I can find IRC chat logs Apr 15 12:43:22 eg81: it's in the topic, http://mg.pov.lt/meego-irclog/ Apr 15 12:45:14 oh sorry ;) I don't read topics, that's my fault Apr 15 12:52:02 I found that bkalinga already had asked about this issue on 03-31 :) Apr 15 12:52:54 anyone involved in the t-shirt contest organisation? Apr 15 13:08:20 did anyone get the follow-up mail for the accepted session mail already? Apr 15 13:09:17 be glad you got a accepted session mail in the first place P Apr 15 13:09:19 :P Apr 15 13:15:30 yes yes Apr 15 13:19:51 http://summit.meegonetwork.fi/live live streams still going (most of the time) Apr 15 13:22:49 thxxxx Apr 15 14:16:43 People in Tampere seems to be having fun - cool! Apr 15 14:18:05 qgil: we do Apr 15 14:18:35 :) timoph Apr 15 14:25:49 qgil: good family-like atmosphere Apr 15 14:26:13 Stskeeps: you being the godfather :) Apr 15 14:28:21 hehe Apr 15 14:28:30 mee familia :) Apr 15 14:29:01 "Stskeeps: making offers you can't refuse" Apr 15 14:29:32 Elop sleeps with the fishes Apr 15 14:30:39 now waiting for sakari doing an arch update talk and DE gettogether Apr 15 14:32:54 Stskeeps, Sakari's still on the arch team? *eg* Apr 15 14:33:33 GAN900: why not? Apr 15 14:34:05 GAN900: one of many good reasons to go there :P Apr 15 14:34:41 qgil, well, given the emails to the arch and dev lists lately along the lines of "Nobody from Nokia was involved in this decision". . . . Apr 15 14:34:54 GAN900: he works for Intel now Apr 15 14:35:03 Whole lotta mud in the water there, though Apr 15 14:35:10 qgil: oh Apr 15 14:35:18 didnt actually know that :) Apr 15 14:35:39 last week in LCS was his debut Apr 15 14:35:53 as i said, big family feeling.. not so much company lines Apr 15 14:38:43 Well then Apr 15 14:38:55 Still interesting to see Intel dictating opaque arch decisions. Apr 15 14:40:20 at least it gets discussed now :P Apr 15 14:41:10 Yeah, sort of. Apr 15 14:41:23 We're still a little unclear as to how things are actually supposed to work. Apr 15 14:41:34 sorry.. I'm totally out of the loop. We're not going to lose arm, right? Apr 15 14:41:45 no, we are full on with arm Apr 15 14:42:03 good to hear Apr 15 14:42:08 even mips it is said Apr 15 14:52:24 hi, is there a good place to get information about how to build the meego components from source? Apr 15 15:42:08 DawnFoster, Hi I was wondering how useful it would be if were to set up a wiki just for guiding people through the broadcom wifi issues /installing/reinstalling etc etc They do seem to crop up so often on the forum Apr 15 15:42:32 DawnFoster, i should say of course I am happy to write it Apr 15 15:42:35 :) Apr 15 15:42:49 andybleaden: I think we might have a wiki page for it, but I think it's hopelessly out of date? Apr 15 15:43:30 andybleaden: actually, I think I'm wrong Apr 15 15:43:32 DawnFoster, is it something I am able to change then. more than happy .not that used to working within the wiki although I have done a little Apr 15 15:43:37 DawnFoster, oh Apr 15 15:43:56 andybleaden: we referenced it here: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Netbook_FAQ#Why_can.27t_I_get_online_over_wifi.3F Apr 15 15:44:03 but it was a link to the forum thread. Apr 15 15:44:10 DawnFoster, how would I go about setting one up then? Apr 15 15:44:23 I think it would be great to have a wiki page devoted it Apr 15 15:44:35 DawnFoster: andybleaden glen gray (slaine) has been maintaining this on his blog. Apr 15 15:44:46 Anyone knows how to build an rpm package from a QT Creator app? Apr 15 15:44:49 DawnFoster, Yes I know ..used it for moblin too Apr 15 15:44:58 * slaine wakes up Apr 15 15:45:12 slaine What do you think Apr 15 15:45:20 Good afternoon, slaine! Apr 15 15:45:27 also http://wiki.meego.com/Wiki_contribution_guidelines for details on creating pages in the meego wiki Apr 15 15:45:29 slaine, 1/2 asleep on a friday as well! Apr 15 15:45:55 might be good to have a meego wiki page that summarizes the process & links to slaine's blog for more details? Apr 15 15:46:10 absolutley Apr 15 15:46:13 Might make it easier for people searching the wiki to find details. Apr 15 15:46:28 I thought someone already had a wiki page with the details and referenced my tutorials at the bottom Apr 15 15:46:29 slaine, DawnFoster what do you think Glen? Apr 15 15:46:30 hi, are there handset devices w/ openGL1.x (not ES) ? Apr 15 15:46:37 let me check if I've the url recorded Apr 15 15:47:05 * rzr is looking for testers for a game Apr 15 15:47:37 I can't see it Apr 15 15:47:39 slaine, gabrbedd DawnFoster Well i did a blog and referenced yours but eventually wanted to build my own Apr 15 15:48:01 The 1.1 details aren't out of date Apr 15 15:48:08 slaine, so I did another blog on how to build from scratch direct from broadcom Apr 15 15:48:33 slaine, no Apr 15 15:48:36 I've 1.2 details that I've not published as it involves making a change to the Broadcom code that I'm not happy about Apr 15 15:48:49 slaine, ooh eck Apr 15 15:48:55 slaine, how come Apr 15 15:49:03 andybleaden: Do we really need another blog? Slaine's been very good at keeping his site up-to-date. Apr 15 15:49:03 dawnfoster: ping Apr 15 15:49:20 hi timeless_xchat Apr 15 15:49:31 You've to basically lie to the kernel and tell it that the Broadcom STA driver is GPL by setting it's license string Apr 15 15:49:32 gabrbedd, no not another blog.something more on the wiki as we seem to get lots of issues on the fourm Apr 15 15:49:52 I'm hoping that once we hit release kernels that don't have debug details this issue will go away Apr 15 15:49:58 andybleaden: slaine: But it's expected that when 1.2 is released this will no longer be necc. Apr 15 15:50:01 As of late last week it's still an issue Apr 15 15:50:09 gabrbedd, my blog is more of a guide for other meego stuff Apr 15 15:50:11 gabrbedd: nod Apr 15 15:51:02 gabrbedd, slaine no longer necessary ...new kernel that gets over broadcom or gets over kernel tricks Apr 15 15:51:25 andybleaden: Well, it sounded like you were trying to duplicate slaine's work. :-) Apr 15 15:51:34 nope Apr 15 15:51:38 What do you mean... "no longer necc?" Apr 15 15:52:26 gabrbedd, no mine was a build it yourself guide for when people wanted to try and build it themselves Apr 15 15:52:41 Isn't that what my guide is ? Apr 15 15:52:49 gabrbedd, not necessary as in you said 'But it's expected that when 1.2 is released this will no longer be necc' Apr 15 15:53:14 Yes, and once that's the case, I'll push my update for 1.2 Apr 15 15:53:36 I should probably read back and see what you'r asking Apr 15 15:53:52 andybleaden: But the procedure is well-documented in slaine's .spec file. Apr 15 15:54:14 slaine, no yours has an rpm download, mine was a bit more basic as it was just from broadcom site direct Apr 15 15:54:25 andybleaden: And the thing that's "no longer necc." is the workaround for Lockdep RCU in the kernel... where you have to patch broadcom's sources to say that the license is "GPL" Apr 15 15:54:51 andybleaden: well, it's a source rpm download Apr 15 15:55:04 gabrbedd, I know. As I have said elsewhere I have used slaines site since I used to use moblin but want to build it myself from broadcom Apr 15 15:55:21 the source rpm builds the kernel module and packages it as an rpm Apr 15 15:55:54 slaine, i appreciate that.never mind if it is easier for people to use your guide which I think it is then leave it at that Apr 15 15:55:55 I don't think it's a good idea for the majority of people to have "make install" stuff all over their file system, that's why I did it as an rpm. Apr 15 15:56:14 slaine, gabrbedd cool Apr 15 15:56:40 reading back there, you're original question was about having a wiki.meego.com topic on it, right ? Apr 15 15:57:37 andybleaden: You could, perhaps, show people how to unpack the SRPM in case they want to noodle around themselves... but I think anything more than that would just create a confusing fragmentation. Apr 15 15:57:50 slaine, yeh not replacing yours, just on Meego itself but Dawn has shown me what is there was Apr 15 15:58:18 * slaine needs coffee, that meeting was long a boring Apr 15 15:58:30 slaine, sorry what was there already.. Apr 15 15:58:56 slaine, cheers anyway Apr 15 16:00:36 hey slaine Apr 15 16:01:42 andybleaden: I just updated the link DawnFoster posted. It was pointing at an older page for 1.0 Apr 15 16:01:44 CosmoHill: hey Apr 15 16:03:06 eep, I've spent 2 hours toying about with my car and cleaning it Apr 15 16:04:18 slaine, brill. I have reedited my build it yourself guide repointing people back to your site too Apr 15 16:04:35 where's your guide ? Apr 15 16:05:07 hmmm... bugs.meego.com down? Apr 15 16:05:35 slaine, i had put something on my blog here andybleadengoeskubuntu.blogspot.com and then also did a small posting last night on the forums as people were becoming unstuck after upgrading again Apr 15 16:06:28 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13094294 Apr 15 16:06:29 oh my Apr 15 16:06:45 slaine, but if it leaves a mess on peoples system I would rather have a link back to yours as it is up to date too Apr 15 16:07:14 andybleaden: it's a good point that needs to be covered Apr 15 16:07:30 slaine, I got bored and dabbled once and could not rebuild using yours so got arsy and taught myself to build it Apr 15 16:07:38 If people have followed my guide in the firstplace, then perhaps modifiying the post to include the following Apr 15 16:07:55 1) rpmbuild --rebuild Apr 15 16:08:17 slaine, hmm Apr 15 16:08:18 2) rpm -Uvh --force ~/rpmbuild/i586/wl-kmod....rpm Apr 15 16:08:31 slaine, ok Apr 15 16:09:15 If it's causing people problems, I'll include a note on mine about this also when I'm updating it next Apr 15 16:09:42 slaine, well let me know if you also would prefer me to take off my blog thing if it will cause more of a problem Apr 15 16:10:05 slaine, it is more of a oops that how I fixed it guide anyroad Apr 15 16:10:23 Don't change your blog on my account Apr 15 16:10:28 I don't have problem Apr 15 16:10:40 my instructions have been cut'n'pasted all over the place Apr 15 16:10:48 that's part of the way the web works Apr 15 16:10:49 slaine, dont mind. Apr 15 16:11:00 slaine, mine is more slash and bunr Apr 15 16:11:03 burn Apr 15 16:11:53 I see you're using the older moblin gtk theme Apr 15 16:11:53 nice Apr 15 16:12:38 slaine, absolutley Apr 15 16:13:12 slaine I always loved it ...I was desperate to get back to it Apr 15 16:13:37 slaine, used flexers guide last reinstall...even easier Apr 15 16:14:05 would be cool to repackage that stuff under the moblin name and make it available Apr 15 16:15:01 slaine,dont start tempting fate!trains in.gotta dash matey.more on moblin later maybe there are a few of us here and on the forums that have got it licked Apr 15 16:15:30 I'd be interested in that Apr 15 16:15:38 I prefer the older moblin look too myself Apr 15 16:16:02 slaine, http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2619&highlight=andybleaden+moblin Apr 15 16:16:39 saved, I'll check it out, thanks andybleaden Apr 15 16:16:41 slaine, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5473602/MyMoblinTransformationPack.v.3.2.tar.gz Apr 15 16:16:55 slaine, gotta gooo now! Apr 15 16:34:22 hi....anybody here can help me figure out how to build a rpm using meego sdk on windows? Apr 15 16:47:45 MeeGoBot: supported processors? Apr 15 16:47:47 gabrbedd: um... Supported Processors are http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors Apr 15 16:48:29 Anybody running MeeGo on an Atom N270 ? Apr 15 16:53:22 on a related note, if anyone is running meego on a processor that isn't on that list, please let me know Apr 15 16:56:45 * gabrbedd found a blog post somewhere where they said they had no problems with N270. Apr 15 16:56:58 * gabrbedd I was mostly worried about video... not instruction set, BTW Apr 15 17:02:00 slaine..back home now.you not seen that moblin stuff before then? Apr 15 17:02:41 I seem to recall you mentioning it, but no I've not looked into it Apr 15 17:03:18 I use the gtk/metacity themes on our linux distro as I love theme, works great as a minimalist theme. The contrast is good too on titlebars etc. Apr 15 17:06:40 slaine, well I used to use the moblin gtk but flexer things sorted all of it pretty much which is great.ihave moblin again...yippee! Apr 15 17:06:58 slaine, but with new stuff underneath Apr 15 17:08:50 i'll check it out over the weekend Apr 15 17:09:02 I'm trying to get to know android at the moment by working with android-x86 Apr 15 17:09:13 not having much luck :( Apr 15 17:13:46 slaine: http://michaelnagel.bandcamp.com/track/robot Apr 15 17:14:28 slaine, you mean on a desktop..hmm had a look at that once Apr 15 17:16:47 slaine, the moblin stuff is a real breeze to sort now though. a quick win. so quick in fact cos it is all in one pack. stick these files here, those in their (oh yeh and back up;) ) but dead easy.it works so well in fact that when I last broke the meego and reinstalled it I barely recognised it and it was sooo grey Apr 15 17:17:38 is this the right place to ask about a build.meego.com obs account? Apr 15 17:18:11 slaine, took about 5-10 mins to get back to moblin ..even got the shutdown theme and we did builod a boot screen too! Apr 15 17:18:27 ejones2_: Dunno. It's definately the right place for build.pub.meego.com (the community OBS) Apr 15 17:18:38 but I dunno about the official OBS. Apr 15 17:18:52 damn youtube Apr 15 17:19:10 video pauses, interesting crashing sounds in the background and the the video comes back Apr 15 17:20:37 I have a pub.build.meego.com obs account. I tried to create a package based on MeeGo 1.1 Mrst-Kernel, but I think i need the regular build OBS acct for that. (Cant link to the package I want: http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-mrst&project=MeeGo%3A1.1%3ACore%3AUpdate) Apr 15 17:20:57 andybleaden: cool Apr 15 17:21:17 ejones2_: Maybe ask on meego-packaging ML ? Apr 15 17:21:32 Thanks gabrbedd! Will do. Apr 15 17:26:13 hey guys... im trying to install the mic2 for suse but its asking for python 2.7 and suse 11.2/3 doesnt come with 2.7 but 2.6... what should i do? Apr 15 17:30:18 slaine, let me knowif you give it a go.would be good to have more of us Apr 15 17:34:56 luist: Are you using the 11.2 / 11.3 repos on repo.meego.com/tools ? Apr 15 17:35:08 If so, then it's a bug... and you should file it. :-) Apr 15 18:11:04 gabrbedd: yes im using those Apr 15 19:29:52 so, why are there two 1.2.0 tags made on http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Release_Engineering/Plans/1.2&diff=36447&oldid=36446 ? Apr 16 02:01:23 morning Apr 16 02:01:33 evening Apr 16 02:02:02 2 more hours worth of evening :) Apr 16 02:02:40 :) Apr 16 02:03:05 i just woke up and it's 5am in the saturday Apr 16 02:03:32 going to start my worksift at meego summit (fin) in one hour Apr 16 02:03:54 sounds like fun, but not at 5am Apr 16 02:04:46 :) Apr 16 02:04:51 4 hours sleep... Apr 16 02:05:34 not healthy for long Apr 16 02:06:01 well, this is special situation :) Apr 16 02:07:58 they have video of interesting talks ? Apr 16 02:09:45 should be, more info: http://summit.meegonetwork.fi/ Apr 16 02:18:55 says here Valtteri Halla from Intel is the Nokia member of the Technical Steering Grou Group Apr 16 02:19:07 http://summit.meegonetwork.fi/speaker/valtteri-halla Apr 16 02:19:34 I think he hasn't update the info :) Apr 16 02:20:03 that or things are stranger than I thought Apr 16 02:20:12 :) Apr 16 02:20:23 which is entirely possible Apr 16 02:20:29 i think he has been working 2 weeks now for Intel Apr 16 02:21:05 he will tell you im sure Apr 16 02:21:31 he wont tell me because I'll be asleep Apr 16 02:22:17 berndhs, it's sat already in finland, the speech was yesterday :) Apr 16 02:22:37 ah yes Apr 16 02:23:21 i was asleep friday at that time too :) Apr 16 02:24:11 haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 16 02:59:58 2011