**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 19 02:59:57 2011 Apr 19 04:11:56 morning Apr 19 04:21:38 hola Apr 19 04:32:19 morning Apr 19 04:33:04 it is Apr 19 04:35:03 Hi, a quick question.. Is there a process view for the MeeGo architecture?? Apr 19 04:35:44 I wanna know the way the run time components interact with each other.. Apr 19 04:39:33 adarshaj: something more detailed than http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture ? Apr 19 04:40:16 timoph: Actually it gives me a logical view, I wanna know the runtime interactions instead.. Apr 19 04:40:29 you might want to ask that from the architecture mailing list. Apr 19 04:40:59 timoph: could you please let me knw the place where I can find the address of the list? Apr 19 04:41:27 adarshaj: http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-architecture Apr 19 04:41:37 cool, thank you :) Apr 19 04:41:40 np Apr 19 05:54:46 hello. Apr 19 05:54:58 morn Apr 19 05:56:12 hi Stskeeps, how is it going? Apr 19 05:56:36 fine, just aking up :P Apr 19 05:56:38 waking Apr 19 05:56:44 Hmmh Apr 19 05:57:22 :3 Apr 19 06:01:46 just wondering, why meego netbook/tablet still uses a separate /boot ext* partition? extlinux/syslinux seems to support btrfs since 4.00 and it is at 4.04 currently Apr 19 06:02:41 Hi All, Apr 19 06:03:16 for developing your own meego touch application what SKD,Emulator,IDE you all are using Apr 19 06:04:00 meego sdk, qemu/realdevice, qtcreator Apr 19 06:04:10 could you share this info with me...as i am totaly confused ...and sure whether i am on right track Apr 19 06:05:23 beford: iam using meego1.1.90 and qemu as emulator Apr 19 06:05:55 when try to create a small test application using qtcreator and run it on qemu Apr 19 06:06:04 it takes a long time Apr 19 06:06:24 every transition takes a hell lot of time Apr 19 06:06:41 I suppose it depends on the specs/features of your machine Apr 19 06:07:01 does it support virtualization? I think it is used to get a faster emulation Apr 19 06:07:11 i am using ubuntu 10.04 Apr 19 06:07:22 hw specs Apr 19 06:07:32 yes VT is enabled in the bios Apr 19 06:08:07 lspci? Apr 19 06:08:24 there is something on the wiki to check about it, let me see Apr 19 06:09:00 yeah yeah, all pre-requsite already met Apr 19 06:09:34 glxinfo|grep renderer Apr 19 06:10:32 OpenGL renderer string: Quadro NVS 295/PCI/SSE2 Apr 19 06:10:55 http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/MeeGo_SDK_Graphics_Acceleration Apr 19 06:11:17 check that site Apr 19 06:11:42 well so you have hw accelerated graphics, it should help with the performance Apr 19 06:12:21 u are able to test MTF test app on qemu? Apr 19 06:12:43 I don't use the SDK sorry Apr 19 06:13:28 but check those steps, if all of them are ok then you might want to ask on the mailing list, or wait until someone else to help here Apr 19 06:14:24 So you agree that , what ever i have is an ideal set up for developing a meego application Apr 19 06:16:12 ^ check vt support, kvm loaded, and graphics hw acceleration. You seem to have graphics hw acceleration, not sure about the other too, follow the steps and check it, if all of them are okay, I believe that you should get a decent performance with the emulator Apr 19 06:17:46 ok thank beford Apr 19 06:17:48 kvm_intel 39448 3 Apr 19 06:17:48 kvm 245253 1 kvm_intel Apr 19 06:18:15 above is the o/p of lsmod | grep kvm Apr 19 06:18:26 so kvm is ok too Apr 19 06:18:41 this mean VT is enabled..right? Apr 19 06:19:45 egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo also shows decent out put Apr 19 06:20:25 yep Apr 19 06:22:22 processor speed ...is that vital...but it is some what recent PC Apr 19 06:22:25 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3505 @ 2.53GHz Apr 19 06:22:39 i have dual processor Apr 19 06:26:19 yea that machine should be more than enough :P Apr 19 06:33:29 yay a new daily Apr 19 06:35:27 beford: One more doubt i have; qemu is a better option for development point or chroot option is better Apr 19 06:36:09 bkalinga, what are you developing, ARM or x86? Apr 19 06:36:24 I believe chroot + Xephyr can be faster Apr 19 06:36:49 currently, i dont have a device Apr 19 06:37:06 so what ever i do i need to see that in an emulator Apr 19 06:38:24 with this : Quadro NVS 295/PCI/SSE2 chroot+ Xephyr will work?? Apr 19 06:39:06 I really don't know, sorry Apr 19 06:51:16 would be awesome if there'd be md5sums too :-/ Apr 19 07:07:27 IonutGavaz: hi, are you joining meego-qa meeting at meego-meeting ? Apr 19 07:12:31 could someone tell me what the facebook integration on the tablet UX is supposed to look like or do? Apr 19 07:12:38 I'm intrigued Apr 19 07:13:00 also would be nice to know why twitter was in the intel image and now it's not Apr 19 07:13:40 twitter api/tos change I believe Apr 19 07:15:16 er, right. Apr 19 07:16:29 I thought the api change was in october or something Apr 19 07:16:32 but oh well Apr 19 07:16:45 :3 Apr 19 07:17:37 I got the tablet UX on my tablet, but the touchscreen is not compatible with the new input method, so I just get to see the lock screen and shutdown logo when I press the halt button. Apr 19 07:18:29 I think I'll stick with the Wetab OS for now, it is atleast somewhat useful Apr 19 07:23:30 beford: what do you expect to see when you press the halt button? Apr 19 07:24:12 :P Apr 19 07:24:19 jonnor: perhaps the point was that it's the only interaction available? Apr 19 07:25:03 oh. Too early :) Apr 19 08:49:31 the qt creator from intel's windows sdk package fails to run the wizard-generated qt quick app project for the desktop target :/ Apr 19 08:49:38 on xp Apr 19 08:50:02 anyone else tried? it complains about the "copying application data" build phase, saying "invalid number of parameters" Apr 19 08:57:19 maybe it just needs another reboot for good measure :p Apr 19 09:02:13 ffs, did the sdk really just render my winxp laptop non-booting? Apr 19 09:03:14 hopefully no? Apr 19 09:03:18 poutsi: I found a way to do that to my ExoPC using the SDK yesterday :) set umask to 0007 and install to /usr/bin/ .... ouch! Apr 19 09:03:40 however.... I reported it and they're working on it now.... can't ask for much more Apr 19 09:03:58 yeehaw.. Apr 19 09:04:41 lbt: so, i deleted Project:DE:Trunk:Testing, relinking it with lbt: so i'm wondering if we're hitting a genuine OBS bug Apr 19 09:05:09 :D okay, I just had a usb stick attached, it hung trying to boot from that :p Apr 19 09:06:11 Stskeeps: possible... it's on my 'open list' ... if you want to chase in #obs though... we just had a phost go down (main web/app!) Apr 19 09:06:16 ok Apr 19 09:06:22 i'll look at that later Apr 19 09:06:32 keep me in the loop and nag me though Apr 19 09:06:33 ta Apr 19 09:20:28 we have some hardware issues on meego.com all web resources (except c.obs) affected Apr 19 09:36:34 it seems shadow builds are broken on the intel winxp sdk Apr 19 10:45:01 what rpm changes the /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch file in meego so it boots a window manager? Apr 19 10:45:13 don't care if it's for netbookUX/n900/tablet whatever Apr 19 10:45:17 .ks Apr 19 10:45:23 it's the ks? Apr 19 10:46:28 yeah Apr 19 10:46:30 Stskeeps, for example I don't see it here : http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.ks Apr 19 10:46:45 well desktop line does it in handset Apr 19 10:46:52 f'ing dl speed is dire today .. Apr 19 10:47:28 Stskeeps, ok does look like the handset does it that way, thanks alot Apr 19 10:49:20 also in an RPM spec how do I specify which runlevel I want my service to run at? I manage to get it added the chkconfig list but even by manually putting chkconfig --levels 5 on my service still doesn't start Apr 19 10:49:48 arfoll: usually, you set the level in the init.d file Apr 19 10:49:56 chkconfig reads it and applies as default Apr 19 10:50:55 thiago, ok then where is it here for example : https://build.meego.com/package/view_file?file=sshd.init&package=openssh&project=Trunk&srcmd5=634c7d4eff7b28e966cfdc0806ce32ab Apr 19 10:57:03 * arfoll thinks he's got it Apr 19 11:28:34 i wonder when can we expect final sessions? Apr 19 11:28:57 iiuc there are still sessions left which still need to get approved Apr 19 11:29:13 there's BoFs and some that got reclassified as BoFs yet Apr 19 11:30:21 sorry BoFs? Apr 19 11:31:32 bird of feather sessions? Apr 19 11:32:17 Why qtcreator customized for Meego does not support member completion functionality, which is available in other platforms Apr 19 11:32:40 i see stskeeps Apr 19 11:32:56 can we expect more sessions to get accepted? Apr 19 11:33:57 I mean its only a month and for me its like if my get accepted i get sponsored to join the conf. if not... well i mostlike will have more fun in getting sponsoring Apr 19 11:33:59 :) Apr 19 11:34:37 the ones in 'accepted' and http://pastie.org/1811221 are the accepted ones Apr 19 11:35:05 we have 20% slots open for late breaking news, can't be a proposal proposed before and opens 2 weeks before conference. doesn't qualify for sponsorship Apr 19 11:35:56 ok Apr 19 11:36:20 so the accepted sessions and the list are final? Apr 19 11:36:38 no more proposed are going to join in Apr 19 11:36:55 Stskeeps: Weren't the speaker instructions supposed to go out last week? Apr 19 11:37:36 yes, i got confused since on the mailinglist is a claim that currently we see the "first wave" Apr 19 11:37:40 X-Fade: yesss.. Apr 19 11:37:40 :P Apr 19 11:37:46 Stskeeps: supposed ;) Apr 19 11:37:49 so it sounded like there are a lot more to come Apr 19 11:37:56 jbos: yes.. Apr 19 11:37:57 :P Apr 19 11:38:25 so is there still chance that my peregrine proposal is going to get accepted? Apr 19 11:40:26 we had the unthankful job of having to sort 180 fantastic proposals and only accept 72 (+ bofs) Apr 19 11:40:41 so if you're not on that list, it didn't make the cut Apr 19 11:40:51 What list? Apr 19 11:40:56 jbos: hey don't worry, there's not even any talk about Telepathy at all. Apr 19 11:40:57 There's a list!? Apr 19 11:41:00 :( Apr 19 11:41:06 Robot101: aww :( Apr 19 11:41:16 there should come decline mails out today, i hope Apr 19 11:41:31 [13:32] we have 20% slots open for late breaking news, can't be a proposal proposed before and opens 2 weeks before conference. doesn't qualify for sponsorship Apr 19 11:41:34 is still open though Apr 19 11:41:38 20% is not exact number Apr 19 11:41:55 http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/accepted Apr 19 11:42:18 Oh yeah, I'm not on there :) Apr 19 11:43:25 lolwhat Apr 19 11:43:42 Though, if I get sponsorship, I'm likely to be talking a little in sabotages' talk on the dialer. Apr 19 11:43:47 If he still wants me :D Apr 19 11:44:16 the mails with acceptance/decline has been a bit confused and some never got them, including myself :) Apr 19 11:44:30 mine is accepted? Apr 19 11:44:47 ahem. YAY Apr 19 11:44:49 Heh Apr 19 11:45:49 Stskeeps: why aren't the ones in the pastie list on the site as accepted? Apr 19 11:46:02 Myrtti: messup somewhere Apr 19 11:46:06 right Apr 19 11:46:08 well... Apr 19 11:46:10 give it time, i've pushed it Apr 19 11:46:20 :-D :-D :-D Apr 19 11:46:24 THANK YOU UNIVERSE Apr 19 11:46:54 ahem Apr 19 11:48:00 I guess my chances of sponsorship have sunk then :D Apr 19 11:48:33 no idea, tbh :) Apr 19 11:48:35 different department Apr 19 11:48:39 That smilie is the comedic mask I stick on when I'm crying. Apr 19 11:48:42 teehee Apr 19 11:49:34 well, either way, I suppose this means that I really have to learn how to inject the damned Klexane sometime soon Apr 19 11:54:58 I might even be able schedule wise to actually be at the conference Apr 19 11:59:37 Hi all, is there SimToolkit in meego for n900? Apr 19 12:01:34 ~simtoolkit Apr 19 12:01:49 not sure if ofono has that support Apr 19 12:22:57 Reissumies: also on the 'anyone else doing webkit2' topic : ask on meego-community and meego-dev mailing lists (and here) Apr 19 12:23:19 my brain has turned into British mush Apr 19 12:23:31 an improvement then? Apr 19 12:24:06 I don't know, but I started parsing the nickname as Re-issumi-es instead of the Finnish word Apr 19 12:25:05 a slight wtf moment "That isn't English, wth is lbt talking about" ... "aw crap" Apr 19 12:25:16 followed by facepalm Apr 19 12:25:27 *g* Apr 19 13:44:04 hey guys.. we make our own version of meego here with some customizations... is it possible to use AppUp store with our own applications? Apr 19 13:44:37 better to ask the appup guys :) Apr 19 13:44:58 yeah they would know Apr 19 13:45:35 luist: I think you would need to make your apps MeeGo Compliant and also use the AppUp SDK (a DRM-like thing). Apr 19 13:46:11 luist: MeeGo Compliant apps have no deps outside of MeeGo core, and are installed in /opt// (or something like that) Apr 19 13:47:46 gabrbedd, got it... but its possible to make our own server for the applications and stuff Apr 19 13:48:15 gabrbedd, also for the web part Apr 19 13:48:15 luist: Yeah, you'll need to contact the AppUp guys. :-) Apr 19 13:48:31 gabrbedd, is there any channel here for this? Apr 19 13:48:52 their email Apr 19 13:49:03 corporate drones aren't known for their IRC fu Apr 19 13:49:06 luist: I don't know. AppUp feels very windows-ey... so it's all forums and stuff. I don't know of any ML's or IRC channels. Apr 19 13:50:06 gabrbedd, hm... okay. know any site that i can check the current appup applications? Apr 19 13:50:28 appup.com? Apr 19 13:51:07 luist: ^^ what arfoll said Apr 19 13:51:49 AFAIk they're not up-to-speed on delivering MeeGo apps, yet... but I haven't been tracking it closely. It's clear that they believe their future is in MeeGo apps, tho. Apr 19 13:52:03 hm.. i can only find windows installer there Apr 19 13:52:27 because only windows installer is "in gold" Apr 19 13:52:29 luist, unfortunately the appup people seem stuck in the belief that people will want to create MeeGo apps in windows Apr 19 13:52:37 meego one is in alpha state still Apr 19 13:53:37 luist: Looks like they took down the Moblin one. It was there before, though. Apr 19 13:54:35 luist, gabrbedd http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-sdk-suite Apr 19 13:55:19 Myrtti, yes that will allow me to: Submit your app to the Intel AppUp center Apr 19 13:55:28 btw i want to make my own "center" Apr 19 13:55:40 Myrtti: I think he's talking about the app-store app... so that you can buy apps for your MeeGo device. Apr 19 13:55:53 ... Apr 19 13:56:18 the Intel AppUp client for meego netbooks and tablets is on downloadable on the page I just linked Apr 19 13:56:47 Myrtti: sorry... I didn't look. Thanks! :-) Apr 19 13:58:03 fwiw and depending on your requirements, a possibility is to adapt addons.mozilla.org Apr 19 13:58:11 has been done before with good results Apr 19 13:59:02 and for further questions I'm sure Bjoern Taubert is more than willing to oblige Apr 19 13:59:25 he seemed like a nice chap, talking about AppUp in Tampere last weekend Apr 19 14:00:09 well, Björn actually. Apr 19 14:00:40 anyhoo, I need to pack my backpack to head out to our local meego network meetup Apr 19 14:02:00 Myrtti: depending on country of origin this is the same last name in both cases Apr 19 14:06:21 luist: there was a talk about appup last weekend in Tampere Apr 19 14:07:14 there is only a single appup centre - all apps go to it... all vendors use it. it's closed. It has a huge billing system etc Apr 19 14:07:46 if you want an app-store then use the meego apps store ...apps-beta.meego.com Apr 19 14:08:05 OTOH if you want a nice distribution channel... use appup Apr 19 14:10:09 lbt: how get the applications in apps-beta.meego.com selected? Apr 19 14:11:00 Aard: what do you mean? get an app into the list? or download one that is there now? Apr 19 14:11:38 how do they get in the list. I just noticed that kde-mobile and calligra are listed there, which imo is bullshit Apr 19 14:12:50 netbook contains stuff from core as well Apr 19 14:18:02 lbt luist : IIRC, the AppUp plan is that vendors would be able to create their own store-fronts in AppUp. Apr 19 14:18:20 yep ... white label only... same backend Apr 19 14:18:24 It would be based on AppUp, served by AppUp... but would look/feel the way you want it. Apr 19 14:18:28 Right. Apr 19 14:18:51 Aard: manually as tests by X-Fade today... Apr 19 14:19:08 Aard: normally from MeeGo:Apps:* Apr 19 14:20:47 lbt: and how/what stuff is supposed to go in there in the future? there are some things in my home probably other people might be interested in as well (mostly home:bwachter:nfs-support and home:bwachter:desktop) Apr 19 14:22:34 Aard: simple answer: they don't go in Apps. complex answer:.... Apr 19 14:22:52 :) Apr 19 14:22:53 I propose both Apps+ and Surrounds Apr 19 14:23:11 Surrounds is 'non-gui stuff' Apr 19 14:23:25 Apps+ depends on stuff in Apps+/Surrounds Apr 19 14:23:55 well, if you have figured out the details, _and_ would like some of the stuff I'm doing in my freetime in there ping me ;) Apr 19 14:32:04 * CosmoHill grrs at software and halfords Apr 19 14:52:35 * CosmoHill is perplexed Apr 19 15:20:39 arg! why does OBS not let you use binary git patches! Apr 19 15:23:49 arfoll: Because rpm is using diff/patch and not git Apr 19 15:29:50 gabrbedd, and are git binary diffs different to normal unary diffs? Apr 19 15:30:09 is there a way of transforming one into another? Apr 19 15:32:03 arfoll: git binary diffs are a "proprietary" git extension. Apr 19 15:32:54 arfoll: Typical practice is to include whatever binary objects you have along with the .spec file, and then inside the spec file fire off commands to copy them into the source tree. Apr 19 15:35:02 gabrbedd, but in this case that would be really ugly, i guess I may aswell redo a tarball Apr 19 15:36:36 you could, you know.... ask.... on meego-packaging..... and then document a policy/best-practice :) Apr 19 15:36:58 (should be done by august) Apr 19 15:37:20 lbt, that would be really nice Apr 19 15:37:22 arfoll: Or put your blobs in a tarball... Apr 19 15:37:44 arfoll: But lbt has me doubting myself on whether I've told you right or not.... :-p Apr 19 15:38:08 i hate the amount of work this stupid png has brought me Apr 19 15:38:20 although... may be better to think and then *tell* people, then let them edit the wiki if they disagree Apr 19 15:39:03 thoughts : small images (png), mp3 files, firmware... etc Apr 19 15:39:29 especially for more 'app' type packages Apr 19 15:40:30 i guess i'll have to think about it while eating easter chocolates :-) Apr 19 16:07:14 DawnFoster: ping Apr 19 16:07:23 when you're awake :) Apr 19 16:07:48 hey lbt Apr 19 16:07:55 I've been awake for 3 hours :) Apr 19 16:08:01 :O Apr 19 16:08:26 it's 9am here & I'm an early bird who gets up at 6am Apr 19 16:09:02 I tend to the other end of the day Apr 19 16:09:21 yeah, and I'm dozing off on the couch by 9/10pm Apr 19 16:09:25 although sunday was up at 4:45am ... and that was 2:45am UK time... Apr 19 16:09:42 worked through to 11pm ... long day that one :) Apr 19 16:10:00 anyhoo (as your neighbours would say) Apr 19 16:10:10 Would you care to register on https://circonus.com/ (and dneary if you're around) Apr 19 16:10:17 Is the meeting on now? Apr 19 16:10:37 * lbt has images of the startled doormouse from alice in wonderland Apr 19 16:10:45 Or am I still on winter time? Apr 19 16:10:49 * alterego chuckles: http://bank.imgdumpr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ipad-e1297066590983.jpg Apr 19 16:11:40 The quote at the end tickles me. Apr 19 16:11:49 yep - I like that Apr 19 16:12:02 well, 500 *is* better than 250 Apr 19 16:12:08 Hah Apr 19 16:12:14 interesting that we're now competing significantly at mech-eng problems Apr 19 16:12:19 Yes, obviously the higher the better in this industry :D Apr 19 16:13:03 dneary: once you two have accounts I'll add you to the IT section and explain some stuff Apr 19 16:13:13 should be very useful for trend info Apr 19 16:15:10 lbt, what are you spamming me with now? :) Apr 19 16:15:40 I'm going to put external monitoring for meego.com on there Apr 19 16:15:49 if you like it as a UI and data access Apr 19 16:16:04 then you can also get arbitrary json published data Apr 19 16:16:07 eg #users Apr 19 16:16:13 #logins today Apr 19 16:16:17 alterego, That's the wrong checklist Apr 19 16:16:28 it's a consolidation and monitor/alert service Apr 19 16:16:38 focus is on "management reporting" Apr 19 16:16:48 So what do I do? Apr 19 16:16:52 register Apr 19 16:17:02 tell me the details, I add you to the demo account Apr 19 16:17:11 same for DawnFoster Apr 19 16:17:21 Sounds like you're spying on us :P Apr 19 16:17:21 Is this your company? Apr 19 16:17:29 no Apr 19 16:17:55 used them before based on recommendation Apr 19 16:18:01 "I have read the terms and conditions" checkbox... yeah right Apr 19 16:18:25 have we checked with Mike / Adam before setting this up? Apr 19 16:18:33 Stefano Apr 19 16:18:50 we need to check with Mike / Adam, too Apr 19 16:19:04 yeah... I am on that team :) we do talk :) Apr 19 16:19:17 you do know that www.meego.com was down for about an hour this am Apr 19 16:19:23 no one knew Apr 19 16:19:33 s/would have known/ Apr 19 16:19:53 so this adresses that issue Apr 19 16:19:59 lbt: it was noticeable... Apr 19 16:20:19 it's also *may* be useful to you two ... if you want I'll help make it useful Apr 19 16:20:31 if you want to mess about with nagios then feel free Apr 19 16:21:26 ericlr: yeah ... bugs went down ... that was important :) Apr 19 16:21:35 lbt, Registered Apr 19 16:21:57 ericlr: feel free to register too - do you have monitor/report/trend info systems for bz? Apr 19 16:22:16 if not this may be an easy fix... if you do then no real need Apr 19 16:25:44 dneary: you've been invited Apr 19 16:26:09 lbt: nothing I personally monitor but Steve or Stefano might have something... Apr 19 16:26:38 dneary: I've added you read-only ... of course we can change that ... lets see how that goes Apr 19 16:27:08 ericlr: OK - I suspect it'll be more for people wanting to trend metrics on multiple services Apr 19 16:28:18 lbt: hmm, having a look at the site doesn't give me a feeling I should register ;) Apr 19 16:29:01 lbt, So what am I looking at now? Apr 19 16:29:03 ericlr: it's a commercial nagios-style system with management graphs Apr 19 16:29:29 I got to the spying dashboard Apr 19 16:29:39 I have a world map showing me the location of our agents Apr 19 16:29:45 lbt: looks very nice but I reckon not my "cup of tea" Apr 19 16:29:54 np Apr 19 16:30:41 ericlr, I'm just about to make Verveine Mint. Apr 19 16:30:45 Suit you better? Apr 19 16:30:55 ericlr: most techs say "just use nagios" ... I say "sure... if you can set it up and run it for $40+/month... go for it" Apr 19 16:31:13 dneary: try the dashboard Apr 19 16:31:22 there's just a couple of graphs for now Apr 19 16:31:42 Yeah - that's the one with the agents Apr 19 16:31:54 dneary: in my timezone Verveine is almost right time to enjoy ;) Apr 19 16:32:07 dneary: trending? Apr 19 16:32:16 ericlr, which tz is that? Apr 19 16:32:20 lbt: ehe, Stefano might say that ;) Apr 19 16:32:59 lbt, Ah, right web responsiveness Apr 19 16:33:01 *g* Apr 19 16:33:08 Down at the bottom of the page. I missed it Apr 19 16:33:09 EEST Apr 19 16:33:16 ericlr, .fi? Apr 19 16:33:24 ericlr, I'm in .fr Apr 19 16:33:26 yes Dave Apr 19 16:33:42 Are you a Frenchman, by any chance? Apr 19 16:33:51 yes I remember that Apr 19 16:33:53 yes I am Apr 19 16:33:57 but I live in HEL Apr 19 16:35:05 I'm not French, by I play one on TV. Apr 19 16:35:17 (j'habite à Lyon) Apr 19 16:36:23 dneary: (très jolie ville !) Apr 19 16:38:05 btw, have you had a chance to check the QA dashboard demo? Any feedback? Apr 19 16:38:06 ericlr, Je suis d'accord... surtout à l'extérieur Apr 19 16:38:14 I have not Apr 19 16:38:20 Which dashboard? Apr 19 16:38:26 I'm not on the qa list Apr 19 16:38:36 dneary: partout pareil, à visiter c'est toujours mieux qu'y vivre :P Apr 19 16:39:14 oh so you might want to have a quick look here: http://qa-dashboard.leonidasoy.fi/ Apr 19 16:39:22 Nan! Je veux dire: les monts du Lyonnais, Beaujolais, les Monts d'Or, le pays de Tarare, la Dombe, ... Apr 19 16:39:42 dneary: meh ... made you an admin Apr 19 16:39:52 ericlr, Very nice! Apr 19 16:39:54 ok ! Oui, en effet quelle région magnifique ! Apr 19 16:39:58 just in case I was supposed to add you to a group or something Apr 19 16:40:07 I like the Florence Nightingale wedge graphs Apr 19 16:40:30 ericlr, I like running & walking, so I'm a bit spoiled around here Apr 19 16:40:33 Je suis de Bretagne mais je connais un peu la région Lyonnaise.. Apr 19 16:40:54 dneary: indeed, spoiled ;) Apr 19 16:40:59 In the process of moving to Chaponost, south west of Perrache, and just at the start of the Monts du Lyonnais Apr 19 16:41:20 lbt: you saw the dashboard, right? Apr 19 16:41:27 Until now, I was in Lyon 3eme, so to get to Miribel Jonage (for example) I had to go 10km Apr 19 16:41:38 ericlr: only just now Apr 19 16:42:03 dneary: is this a small village Chaponost? Apr 19 16:42:09 ericlr, What's ICDK? Apr 19 16:42:13 ericlr, Yes Apr 19 16:42:19 ericlr, Near Brignais Apr 19 16:42:29 Where are you from? Apr 19 16:42:29 dneary: OK - have a look/play ... if you're interested let me know. If not that's fine Apr 19 16:42:40 lbt, I'll add it to the stack Apr 19 16:42:49 Can you remind me again in a couple of weeks? Apr 19 16:43:15 I really do have to get a move-on re metrics.meego.com - now that I have a VM, I still haven't got everything set up there Apr 19 16:43:18 lbt: this is another thing I'd like to integrate, I mean test results directly visible in a bug report... Apr 19 16:43:19 I'm not the best at that ... Apr 19 16:43:32 ericlr: yes - that'd make sense Apr 19 16:44:08 dneary: when it comes up ... at least now you've seen it :) Apr 19 16:44:10 dneary: ICDK? some specific HW or? Apr 19 16:44:26 ericlr, In the dashboard Apr 19 16:44:43 There are 2 tabs at the top, N900 & ICDK Apr 19 16:45:15 dneary: I need to check on google maps ;) I was born in St Malo, lived in Rennes long time then moved to Paris and now HEL Apr 19 16:45:20 dneary: DawnFoster: what I would say is it may be worth spending a little time setting it up... 'cos you have to leave it to collect data before it makes much sense Apr 19 16:46:09 dneary: I assume this is some other HW than N900, makes sense no? Apr 19 16:47:31 ericlr, I assumed the same thing :) Apr 19 16:47:44 lbt, I agree Apr 19 16:47:55 lbt, And you have to know what you're instrumenting first Apr 19 16:47:56 lbt: I know it's not your area but it gives you an idea of all integrated bugzilla view eg. at a glance you see what's really cooking and for in depth or hollisitic view you can check the relevant dashboard, QA, bugs, integration etc... Apr 19 16:48:09 lbt, What kind of things can this instrument? Apr 19 16:48:18 Concurrent sessions, things like that? Apr 19 16:51:29 dneary: it can measure things externally as per normal ... service response etc Apr 19 16:51:45 it can also query for a set of json metrics Apr 19 16:52:20 so if you have internal instrumentation that responds on a known port to an http response... you send json data out and you can graph it Apr 19 16:52:56 so, yes... anything. Including concurrent sessions Apr 19 16:53:51 ericlr: hmmm Apr 19 16:53:53