**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 04 02:59:58 2011 May 04 04:06:52 q May 04 04:47:27 morning May 04 04:48:46 morn May 04 05:01:33 hi May 04 05:01:45 unable to register new account at https://meego.com/user/register May 04 05:01:55 is the website down? is there alternate site? May 04 05:02:35 deepa1: what error do you get? May 04 05:03:16 Stskeeps, Error 113 net::ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH) Unknown error May 04 05:03:30 deepa1: what browser? May 04 05:03:46 Stskeeps, tried in firefox and chrome May 04 05:03:55 page seems to work for me, so May 04 05:04:14 Stskeeps, which browser are you using May 04 05:04:23 tested with chrome May 04 05:04:49 Stskeeps, in chrome the registration page comes up, when i enter details and submit i get the above error. May 04 05:05:05 works for me too in Firefox 4 May 04 05:05:06 Stskeeps, in firefox the website itself does not come up May 04 05:05:19 deepa1: odd - if you're able to, file a bug on bugs.meego.com somehow May 04 05:05:46 or mail to meego-it@ May 04 05:05:52 Stskeeps, actually i want to file a bug and hence want to create an account and it fails May 04 05:06:00 ah, the suddenly famous mailing list ;) May 04 05:06:26 Stskeeps, please give the full mail id? May 04 05:06:50 lists.meego.com , subscribe there May 04 05:16:54 Stskeeps, sorry but the credentials supplied through lists.meego subscription is not accepted in bugs.meego.com May 04 05:17:15 deepa1: yes, it's seperate :) then you can send a mail to meego-it@ there seems to be an odd issue May 04 05:17:33 because you can't file a bug for it (please state that) May 04 05:18:01 Stskeeps, are you able to register account thru https://meego.com/user/register ? May 04 05:18:12 thru chrome May 04 05:18:33 deepa1: i already have an account so i'd rather not test that right now :) May 04 05:18:33 Stskeeps, meego-it@meego.com is the email? May 04 05:18:35 yes May 04 05:18:41 you can subscribe using lists.meego.com May 04 05:18:43 Stskeeps, thanks May 04 05:18:55 deepa1: Check the time in your system. May 04 05:19:08 If you clock is way off, i've seen it cause that problem. May 04 05:21:06 * gabrbedd goes to sleep May 04 05:44:07 hello fellow meegos May 04 05:44:20 hello May 04 05:44:27 mis ameegos May 04 05:44:37 lol May 04 05:44:51 so i do have a meego exopc May 04 05:45:08 any one else? May 04 05:45:30 yeah, but haven't gotten to use it much yet May 04 05:45:54 did u get it at the deve conference? May 04 05:46:04 i got it at one of the appup labs, or rather loaned May 04 05:46:39 yeah thats where i got mine May 04 05:46:52 so what do you plan on doing with it? May 04 05:48:11 well....i've been studiying the OS and what do u think about it? May 04 05:48:26 it's interesting - the fan is a bit of a downer, but i like it as a development kit May 04 05:48:32 Its pretty bare right now May 04 05:48:43 quite a lot of possibilities May 04 05:48:54 true from the dev side May 04 05:51:11 the key board doesnt show up in the terminal May 04 05:51:25 you have to connect an external May 04 05:51:31 yeah, terminal on screen keyboards are always difficult May 04 05:51:34 i think it'll come eventually May 04 05:52:10 yeah and i dont think they have the sdk ready for linux yet May 04 05:52:27 they have it listed on their site May 04 05:52:48 but i recall reading something about that May 04 05:53:22 well, not so much that it isn't ready.. they took it down because it destroyed people's operating systems by accident ;) May 04 05:53:50 what do u mean? May 04 05:54:13 means it by accident ran some package manager commands that weren't good May 04 05:55:16 I like linux...some of my friends installed windows others ubuntu May 04 05:55:51 it needs to be operable to where its in a way functional May 04 05:56:18 yeah - just remember it's a development device :) May 04 05:57:16 true and i take that as a free pass to program it any way i want May 04 05:57:50 just givin a heads up on the default condition May 04 05:57:53 :nod: May 04 05:59:07 alright im out. May 04 06:33:16 hi g++ rpm is not there in zypper ? stable version? May 04 06:33:33 1.1.99.5.20110501.2 May 04 06:39:38 morn andre__ May 04 06:42:32 Stskeeps, morning! May 04 07:49:01 hi May 04 07:49:04 hi lbt May 04 07:49:39 i want to set up an account from build.meego.com May 04 07:49:45 so could you help me? May 04 07:50:40 cbshao: not right guy for that :) please read http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers#How_to_get_started May 04 07:57:20 morning \o May 04 07:57:26 * lcuk grabs http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.1.99.5.20110501.2.DE.2011-05-04.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-de-acceptance/ May 04 08:35:38 hi lbt/X-Fade May 04 08:36:06 windyuan: hi May 04 08:36:23 I'm a meego developer, Can I have a account in build.meego.com May 04 08:36:33 windyuan: No. May 04 08:36:37 ;) May 04 08:36:39 why? May 04 08:36:44 Think you mean pub obs :P May 04 08:36:51 windyuan: http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Packagers_Developers#How_to_get_started May 04 08:36:55 * arfoll senses the need for a topic change May 04 08:37:06 So ... May 04 08:37:18 That Qt/Qml thread is interesting .. May 04 08:37:34 alterego: I aim to please.. May 04 08:37:37 :P May 04 08:37:40 ;) May 04 08:37:54 Stskeeps: Hmm that needs a note about the differences between core and pub obs. May 04 08:38:03 yeah May 04 08:38:39 windyuan: What are you developing? May 04 08:39:11 I need to build some source and test on some devices. but I can't find how to get a build account May 04 08:39:30 FYI http://wiki.meego.com/OBS explains thinks Stskeeps May 04 08:39:32 for meego media middleware May 04 08:39:49 windyuan: is this for your job ? May 04 08:40:00 windyuan: build.meego.com is only for people working on official meego components. May 04 08:40:13 * lbt wanders off :) May 04 08:40:35 windyuan: For developing against these components or app developments you should use the community obs or build.pub.meego.com May 04 08:41:16 lbt: yes, it's for my job. May 04 08:41:53 windyuan: and is it opensource code? May 04 08:42:31 Someone is planning on "shipping" something in two weeks May 04 08:42:33 sure, all is meego middleware source code. May 04 08:42:38 Or is that the 1.2 "shipping" date .. May 04 08:42:47 Interwesting May 04 08:43:44 alterego: 1.2 release date May 04 08:43:46 windyuan: OK - so you can work on the community OBS :) .... but you're probably aiming to get a 'proper' account at some point May 04 08:43:50 alterego: the freeze is way before that May 04 08:44:01 windyuan: what's your meego.com username? May 04 08:44:14 I'm a developer in Intel meego team to fix some bugs or features in on meego middleware. May 04 08:44:30 windyuan, are you working on meego tv stuff? May 04 08:44:37 feng.yuan@intel.com May 04 08:44:49 no. on tablet. May 04 08:45:00 windyuan: then you need to follow the procedure in the url i gave you May 04 08:45:27 yep - but if you want your community account enabling ... just say and that's OK too May 04 08:46:31 windyuan: meh - I enabled it anyhow. Make sure you read Stskeeps' url May 04 08:46:51 everyone have the build.pub.meego.com May 04 08:47:29 everyone has the account of build.pub.meego.com if he/she registered in meego.com? May 04 08:47:58 windyuan: for x months I believe yeah. May 04 08:48:17 x not being 10 but some variable number I don't know off the top of my head :) May 04 08:48:24 windyuan: yes - but it needs to be enabled May 04 08:48:43 thanks lbt, stskeeps and all you guys. do I have the account on build.pub.meego.com? May 04 08:49:03 windyuan: you do May 04 08:49:23 thanks a lot. May 04 10:13:03 <_|Nix|_> Hi! I'm trying to run startmeego-debug-tablet in Xephyr, and it seems to run just fine. The lock screen appears initially, but then it disappears after a second or two. The problem is that, afterwards, when I try to click on any of the applications, or I try to drag the panels around or pretty much anything, the mouse seems to not work. May 04 10:13:14 <_|Nix|_> Is this a known problem? Is there a solution? May 04 10:18:41 _|Nix|_, hmm not personally heard anything of the like May 04 10:18:53 good morning guys May 04 10:18:55 bug check for bugs May 04 10:20:05 <_|Nix|_> lcuk: Could it be because I don't have hardware acceleration? I have a i915 card, but I can only use the vesa driver in X :( May 04 10:20:44 unless they've fixed the permissions in that setup, it's a scary prospect to run a lot of stuff as root on the host native May 04 10:21:00 _|Nix|_, dunno May 04 10:21:42 _|Nix|_: what's the problem? May 04 10:23:07 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: I can't click on any UI element in Xephyr :( May 04 10:23:25 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: ... and I can't drag any of the panels. May 04 10:23:33 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: I'm trying to get to the settings UI. May 04 10:24:16 _|Nix|_: ah, probably some fault in xephyr :S May 04 10:24:39 try looking at /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch May 04 10:24:49 it defines some x opts there May 04 10:24:56 _|Nix|_: make a bugreport May 04 10:25:40 _|Nix|_: and try to launch it on a different display, without xephyr, maybe that will work May 04 10:26:24 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: Aha - in a real X display ... not a bad idea ... May 04 10:27:27 yeah May 04 10:28:47 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: Unfortunately, a second X doesn't seem to work :( May 04 10:29:19 :( May 04 10:29:22 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: It seems to run just fine, but the X cursor never appears :( May 04 10:32:57 _|Nix|_, remove the xopts in /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch May 04 10:33:29 the tablet versions specifically disable cursor May 04 10:42:51 _|Nix|_: since the ux is touch-optimized, no wonder it hides the cursor May 04 10:43:01 I think you can show it with some script May 04 10:43:18 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: The problem is not that the cursor is invisible, the problem is that it doesn't react to clicks at all. May 04 10:43:47 <_|Nix|_> vvaltone: That didn't help, unfortunately. May 04 10:44:08 oh, ok May 04 10:45:04 I only quickly tried running it in xephyr but the fact that it binds the dev and the host filesystem into the chroot and runs everything as root made me not use it May 04 10:45:11 but it did work back then May 04 10:45:26 some of the early tablet releases iirc May 04 10:45:29 <_|Nix|_> vvaltone: Right ... May 04 10:45:45 <_|Nix|_> Well, what the heck ... I'll try running it as root :-S May 04 10:47:10 _|Nix|_: so you're saying that it won't react either, even if you run it on a real x display? May 04 10:47:19 <_|Nix|_> Also, the fact that it only seems to work once, after which I have to log out of my X session and log back in doesn't help matters either ... May 04 10:48:11 timoph, this script you mentioned, has it been tested? May 04 10:48:39 lcuk: my installer script? May 04 10:48:53 yea May 04 10:49:01 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: Exactly. I ran it on a real X display like so: X :1 -ac & ... no X cursor. startmeego-debug-tablet ... shows up ... kill it by logging out of the mic-chroot ... log back into the chroot and run it again ... it shows up with a cursor, although clicking on stuff still doesn't work ... terminate it by killing the chroot ... computer useless because the backlight turns off and I can't turn it back on :( May 04 10:49:17 testing is ongoing with it May 04 10:49:26 _|Nix|_: :((( May 04 10:49:26 <_|Nix|_> Venemo_N900: Lovely, eh? May 04 10:49:51 timoph, cool May 04 10:50:10 I'm planning to make it available and document it during this week May 04 10:50:11 _|Nix|_: not exactly the word I had in mind, but yeah... May 04 10:50:50 <_|Nix|_> If only I could get my real, desktop X to work properly, with hardware acceleration 'n all ... May 04 10:52:49 <_|Nix|_> Found a recent bug at bugzilla.redhat.com and duplicated that (because they don't have "reopen") but I haven't gotten anywhere with it ... :-S May 04 11:21:24 does anybody have a qml app available to test against bug 16894? May 04 11:21:26 on the meego-de May 04 11:21:27 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16894 cri, High, ---, janne.a.hamalainen, NEW, [DE]Qml apps fail to launch May 04 11:22:29 because that bug is top of the "top 10 release blocker bugs" section of http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Status May 04 11:25:07 alterego, do you happen to know where I can find a couple of simple qml apps? May 04 11:26:33 does the package desktop-file-utils exist in MeeGo? May 04 11:27:02 lcuk, maybe http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qdeclarativeexamples.html ? May 04 11:27:59 http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/daily/1.1.99.5.20110501.2.DE.2011-05-04.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-de-acceptance/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-de-acceptance-1.1.99.5.20110501.2.DE.2011-05-04.1.packages May 04 11:28:04 according to that Venemo, yes. May 04 11:28:16 thank you lcuk :) May 04 11:28:37 lcuk: erm, for meego? May 04 11:28:45 yeah alterego, read the bug May 04 11:29:15 I am just charging my device up atm so don't have it booted May 04 11:29:20 but was reviewing some bugs May 04 11:29:30 lcuk: I think you can get the qml examples May 04 11:30:06 Yeah, that bug affects all Qt based apps, not specifically Qml May 04 11:30:21 My dialer is qml and it uses MTF to bootstrap so is unaffected May 04 11:30:57 I'm suprised it's not fixed yet, it's supposed to be an issue wiith the theme bridge May 04 11:30:59 do you use qt-creator to design and test it? May 04 11:31:04 No May 04 11:31:15 how do you dev then? May 04 11:31:23 gedit to design, N900 or qmlviewer on desktop to test May 04 11:31:58 I have some gedit bindings that auto run in qmlviewer May 04 11:32:08 cool May 04 11:32:29 Never really got to grips with wysiwyg May 04 11:32:47 I think my biggest gripe is messy code :P May 04 11:33:04 that is typical May 04 11:33:43 You could just launch qmlviewer on its' own and it'll segfault without -style plastique May 04 11:35:06 Ah, this looks like a different issue, the segfault is fixed but startup is missing an env var May 04 11:35:19 To tell qt to use meegotouch theme (or summink) :) May 04 11:35:48 I remember someone mentioning this fix the other day May 04 11:35:56 yeah most likely May 04 11:36:10 thiago: ping ... May 04 11:36:28 * alterego gets some brunch May 04 11:44:20 lbt: pong May 04 11:46:32 What's the current state of MeeGo? May 04 11:47:35 thiago: msg May 04 11:48:02 Debolaz: Foucus on 1.2 release? May 04 11:50:12 * Debolaz is just curious, because since february, I haven't heard much buzzing. May 04 11:55:09 was it the tablet ux code drop or before? May 04 11:55:18 I guess that's one buzzing May 04 11:56:11 Debolaz: MeeGo Summit in finland was great ... heads down now for the next release and the SF Summit May 04 11:56:46 plus huge amounts happening on all the irc channels.... I think you just hang out in uncool places ;) May 04 12:08:15 <_|Nix|_> Venemo: It seems that you do indeed need to run as root :( May 04 12:08:49 _|Nix|_, that is ridiculous May 04 12:12:01 and scary, as I said May 04 12:12:26 _|Nix|_, it's still worth a bugreport in my opinion. May 04 12:12:35 an SDK should not require its users to run it as root. May 04 14:28:51 <__key__> sup May 04 14:29:27 <__key__> ? May 04 14:29:32 <__key__> dead in here huh May 04 14:29:37 not really May 04 14:29:42 <__key__> wh00p May 04 14:29:51 * __key__ is just tryin to figure out what meego is May 04 14:30:16 www.meego.com May 04 14:30:17 <__key__> a little help please... May 04 14:30:23 <__key__> oh, nice domain May 04 14:30:23 A Linux distribution..? :) May 04 14:30:45 <__key__> linux distribution... like centos ? May 04 14:30:51 <__key__> or more like debian/ubunutu May 04 14:30:52 <__key__> ? May 04 14:31:04 go read meego.com :) May 04 14:31:08 It has more in common with CentOS than Debian. May 04 14:31:08 it explains it better May 04 14:31:17 <__key__> so, redhat ? May 04 14:31:24 more like android May 04 14:31:25 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeeGo May 04 14:31:39 __key__: could you explain to me why you used to be on the ban list here? May 04 14:31:52 <__key__> more like android huh May 04 14:31:59 <__key__> so, meego for my iPhone ? May 04 14:32:04 <__key__> Stskeeps: huh? May 04 14:32:31 <__key__> can't a guy troll a little? May 04 14:32:48 ehrm... no, no he can't ;) May 04 14:32:51 * Stskeeps has a good memory for trolls May 04 14:32:57 hehe May 04 14:32:57 Like a cobra about to strike, Stskeeps takes up chanop status May 04 14:33:25 gabrbedd: damn you! *fistshakes* i just read that with Attenborough's voice ;) May 04 14:33:40 :-) May 04 14:35:43 Jaffa: I can't seem to be able to edit the Flight Info wiki page. I do login, but whenever I go back to the page it always says I'm not logged in? May 04 14:36:11 anidel: login on meego.com, not the wiki May 04 14:36:14 log out at meego.com, log back in May 04 14:36:30 ok May 04 14:36:41 (i still firmly believe SSO should either work and be used everywhere, or not at all) May 04 14:36:58 ah cool May 04 14:37:00 works May 04 14:37:34 w00t_, yes. May 04 14:38:03 build.meego.com also doesn't use SSO, and probably should. build.pub.m.c manages somehow. May 04 15:44:38 arfoll: i might be ignorant, but at least for the lib*'s, it should be picked up with the automatically generated .so references shouldn't it? May 04 15:44:48 in Requires: May 04 15:46:26 Stskeeps, possibly, i got tired of people not being able to install my packages because this or that wouldn't get picked up automatically so I put some basics down May 04 15:46:35 true May 04 15:47:07 thing is my package actualyl worked on meego 1.0/wetab/1.1/amino meego and 1.2 May 04 16:09:43 LAST CHANCE! The MeeGo San Francisco conference planning committee is seeking to feature select quotes/phrases on conference signage. Please help us make this a community centric event! https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T6P5C8H May 04 16:17:05 I am currently rather frustrated with MeeGo, perhaps best to not participate in that survey May 04 16:18:26 DawnFoster, Ping? May 04 16:18:31 mikhas: why? state your opinion, even if it isn't just sunshine and kittens May 04 16:18:37 hey dneary May 04 16:21:54 mortenmj, heavy-weight processes. May 04 16:23:38 exactly May 04 16:23:47 which issue in particular? May 04 16:26:00 Stskeeps: probably meego 1.2 shipping a broken gtk+ input method bridge May 04 16:28:37 the package was last updated in aug 2010, there is a defined release process at http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Release_Timeline May 04 16:28:53 so, the question is rather why noone has been maintaining the package if it's important now May 04 16:30:20 if you're unhappy with the current VKB in tablet UX, check the screenshots in https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16992 and vote May 04 16:30:23 Bug 16992 nor, Undecided, ---, x2rich, NEW, Virtual keyboard uses suboptimal theming in MeeGo Tablet UX May 04 16:31:51 mikhas: assignee is wrong, i think it's cyrene you should get in touch with May 04 16:32:08 Stskeeps, the question is rather who defines risks for stuff like *plugins* that change no API. in every other community common sense would have quickly agreed to include that fix May 04 16:32:29 here, I need to wrestle with architects who dont like a changelog message May 04 16:33:15 okay, so, the process has a point, because things were absolutely chaos in the past compared to this to the extent it was damn close to slipping on release day May 04 16:33:18 but sure, stick to your processes and watch how the failboat sinks May 04 16:33:28 May 04 16:33:29 I get food now May 04 16:33:37 because of people simply putting every single fix in and well, crap broke :) May 04 16:33:55 you cannot prevent chaos in real open communities May 04 16:34:16 strictness on processes will kill outside contributions May 04 16:34:28 and then you only have wage slages left working on MeeGo core stuff May 04 16:34:33 *slaves May 04 16:34:40 are you telling me that no other distribution has a freeze process for releases? May 04 16:34:47 no, I am not saying that May 04 16:34:53 yes, you're saying exactly that May 04 16:34:55 they are less strict with that May 04 16:35:24 1.2 freeze hasn't been that strict IMO May 04 16:35:24 Most other distros also have problems with bugs that go unfixed for long periods. May 04 16:35:47 keep in mind that the final rc image is actually coming out within the next 7 days May 04 16:35:51 arfoll: given that the release was delayed altogether, i'd say it's been quite lax May 04 16:36:01 mikhas, errm, well. I can only speak for GNOME, but we have 1 or 2 weeks hardcode freeze before the major release and everybody can ask the release-team for an exception. and I must admit: I don't know how the process for this is in MeeGo. May 04 16:36:40 andre__: it's fairly simple really - if you have a bug, you request that it's a blocker, without a blocker bug, you don't get into the release May 04 16:37:21 and who decides on blocker bugs? and how fast? I've seen mostly only jukka.eklund deciding I think... May 04 16:37:54 jukka is only for DE blockers, I think you'll find May 04 16:38:14 (de being a 'vendor' using meego, not meego proper) May 04 16:38:19 andre__: so, for 1.1, it was called CCB (change control board) which is a mix of architecture, release engineering, marketing, etc, deciding if it truely is a release blocker May 04 16:38:35 w00t_, I think I mostly track DE tickets, true :) May 04 16:38:57 Stskeeps, is that list of people documented with "blocker decision" powers? May 04 16:39:24 andre__: generally it's the product manager (i think) setting it May 04 16:39:30 for example gavin for core May 04 16:39:33 Stskeeps, that's also my idea. May 04 16:39:45 now I wonder if we have a list of product managers somewhere available. May 04 16:39:57 it's on governance page May 04 16:40:09 of course, who knows how accurate that one is anymore May 04 16:40:22 Rolla wrote up the process somewhere, i just can't find it right now May 04 16:40:43 this might have all been stuff I should probably know, but I didn't. maybe I should check documenting it... May 04 16:40:52 Stskeeps: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering May 04 16:40:56 http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Release_Timeline/Branching_phase May 04 16:41:27 hmm, I often have the feeling to get lost in wiki subsubpages in this project... ;-/ May 04 16:41:33 I'll take a look May 04 16:41:52 generally being on meego-releases@ helps a lot (collab list for RE and QA, so you should be on there..) May 04 16:42:26 uh. yes, I should, but I lost track of mailing lists and IRC channel merges and moves... :) May 04 16:49:14 we do also have update releases May 04 18:01:08 Anybody know the difference between WM_ICON_NAME and _NET_WM_ICON_NAME ?? (X11 question) May 04 18:01:58 Seems to me the same thing with 2 different protocols. :-/ May 04 18:17:19 gabrbedd: my reading of the ICCCM and wm-spec agrees, but the newer _NET variants explicitly specify UTF-8, where the original is silent on encoding. May 04 18:19:41 andyross: Ah. That makes more sense. May 04 18:20:32 andyross: I'm dealing with a closed source app that doesn't set the _NET stuff, which is causing problems with the MeeGo UX. May 04 18:23:25 gabrbedd: Indeed, grepping the source it looks like meego-ux-daemon is reading _NET_WM_ICON_NAME, but not falling back to WM_ICON_NAME if it's unset. That's a wm-spec violation. Can you submit to bugzilla? May 04 18:23:56 andyross: already did... and working on a patch. May 04 18:24:07 Even better. :) May 04 18:25:02 but 17002 May 04 18:25:06 bug 17002 May 04 18:25:09 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17002 maj, Undecided, ---, rusty.lynch, NEW, meego-ux-daemon can't manage apps that don't set _NET_WM_PID May 04 19:38:53 lbt, is the joggler .ks file available somewhere, I have a feeling I need to put a fully working prototype together. May 04 19:40:30 http://jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=MeeGo ahh May 04 19:49:13 http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/joggler/netbook/ May 04 19:49:16 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10738 nor, Undecided, ---, tero.kojo, NEED, Meego community ftp server or similar needed May 04 19:53:46 lcuk: linked off the wiki page iirc May 04 19:55:15 lbt, ta I will get this netbook one and see if I can get it on the network and whether it runs qt apps May 04 20:03:53 lbt, where about is your latest shopper? I see it on maemo garage from 2008, have you put it onto obs anywhere? May 04 20:04:02 ha May 04 20:04:08 like I have time for a hobby? May 04 20:04:51 ok, baseline "lbt's shopper goes here" placeholder? May 04 20:05:16 or "[ ] shopper" onto the shopping list! :P May 04 20:06:45 this with real calendar shopping todo photos in qml: http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/03/conceptual-meego-tablet-ui-pictures/ May 04 20:07:04 the other panels have been done May 04 20:07:20 as seen on videos somewhere May 04 20:07:47 * lbt runs away screaming May 04 20:11:26 i wonder if vlad is going to make omweather to bring that panel to life? May 04 20:15:35 * lcuk loolbt, when you stop running and screaming, have you considered how to get shopping list data between your and denises devices? May 04 20:15:43 -/me loo May 04 20:15:48 lbt ^ May 04 20:16:07 food for thought \o nn May 04 20:17:32 we're actually thinking on how to do this with LinuxMCE. May 04 20:47:26 I'd like to build MeeGo UX Components on Ubuntu. Where can I install the dependencies from? Do I need a full MeeGo SDK installation to do this? May 04 21:32:57 wifi doesn't work on MeeGo DE on my N900 May 04 21:33:00 at all May 04 22:04:09 Stskeeps, is there a separate (later) release date for N900 DE? May 04 22:32:15 hi May 04 22:32:25 one question... May 04 22:32:41 i have problem with empathy... dont connect msn May 04 22:34:12 someone? May 04 22:36:34 this mean you passed the test to not use it anymore :) May 04 22:37:00 How do I find out why I am "banned" in #meego-dev? May 04 22:37:09 I don't think I've ever been there before May 04 22:47:46 heyyy i need help!! May 04 22:49:58 jonnor, probably a ban mask? May 04 22:50:15 jonnor: #meego-dev got closed May 04 22:50:19 jonnor: #meego-dev is no more, was closed a few weeks ago May 04 22:50:23 heh May 04 22:50:40 berndhs .. May 04 22:51:46 osvaldo_: i dont use empathy, have my own chat client. And I dont know anyone in MSN :) May 04 23:11:52 osvaldo May 04 23:40:54 Ok. I guess I will ask here then. What is the criteria for a release blocker? May 04 23:41:25 update release blocker is well-defined in release process docs but release blocker is not as far as I have been. May 04 23:55:40 happy that "my" bugs are finally release blockers: https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13778 https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15552 May 04 23:55:44 Bug 13778 maj, Medium, 1.1.90.4, martin.xu, ASSI, [upstream 0.71 has fixed]connection problems, page allocation failures May 04 23:55:46 Bug 13780 nor, Medium, 1.1.90.4, martin.xu, ASSI, Wired connection stops working when transferring lots of data May 04 23:55:48 Bug 15552 maj, High, ---, martin.xu, ASSI, [Upstream v-0.71 has fixed the issue]network fail to connect to internet with static IP for the seco **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 05 02:59:57 2011