**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 08 02:59:58 2011
May 08 12:02:18 <efrat> hi guys
May 08 12:02:39 <efrat> I'm a girl and I have a problem
May 08 12:02:52 <efrat> anybody available ?
May 08 12:03:16 <hell> sometimes
May 08 12:03:51 <efrat> when I try to install meego from a flash drive it gets stuck after writing:
May 08 12:04:20 <efrat> "waiting for system to settle before starting installation..."
May 08 12:09:06 * lbt considers enlisting his wife to ask questions on his behalf...
May 08 12:09:24 <lbt> (not that it appears to be working in this case)
May 08 12:10:04 <lbt> efrat: you may want to say a little more about what device you're using and what image you downloaded
May 08 12:11:05 <efrat> i'm using Lenovo S10-3t.
May 08 12:12:54 <efrat> it's a tablet.
May 08 12:14:07 <lbt> mine's a netbook... but sadly I haven't flashed it in a while
May 08 12:15:04 <efrat> ok thanks
May 08 12:15:39 <phaeron> hmm
May 08 12:15:51 <phaeron> lbt: you scared her away
May 08 12:16:20 <lbt> simple question "what image you downloaded"
May 08 12:16:52 <lbt> don't have time to walk people through it ... but a little chat may have drawn someone else in
May 08 12:19:23 * dm8tbr was waiting for the image answer
May 08 12:19:56 <dm8tbr> also playing the girl card? psshhhhf
May 08 13:12:40 <raininja> so this channel is mostly totally dead, probably because meego has no irc out of the box.
May 08 13:12:58 <CosmoHill> no, it's sunday
May 08 13:13:21 <raininja> i have been idling for days
May 08 13:13:41 <CosmoHill> well I have my mate coming over
May 08 13:13:41 <vgrade> hi CosmoHill. well done to Reading
May 08 13:13:42 <berndhs> was entertaining yesterday
May 08 13:13:46 <CosmoHill> oh it's also F1 today
May 08 13:13:50 <CosmoHill> vgrade: thanks :)
May 08 13:14:00 <CosmoHill> we're against cardiff
May 08 13:14:38 <vgrade> I'm not too bothered about Leeds missing out as its probably too soon for us to go up to prem
May 08 13:14:55 <lcuk> heya vgrade \o
May 08 13:15:07 * lcuk just got back from Liverpool
May 08 13:15:13 <berndhs> my boys form teh BVB are having a great year
May 08 13:16:14 <vgrade> lcuk, hi, been away for a couple of weeks in Germany just trying to catch up
May 08 13:17:31 <lcuk> vgrade, I have spent the weekend driving amazingly fast around a track and drinking lots of beer
May 08 13:18:07 <vgrade> not at the same time I hope :)
May 08 13:18:20 <mikhas> no, first the beer
May 08 13:18:24 <lcuk> watching the instruction video was nerve wracking but then when we got out on the track it was great
May 08 13:18:27 <lcuk> no vgrade lol
May 08 13:18:33 <raininja> for some reason I am imagining a version of meego with  a set of tools for remote development work
May 08 13:18:40 * lcuk does not usually do race driving
May 08 13:20:35 <lcuk> vgrade, it was stag party for one of my mates, glad I went :)
May 08 13:20:48 <lcuk> raininja, what do you mean remote development work? like coding over irc?
May 08 13:21:19 <lcuk> mikhas, lol
May 08 13:21:24 <lcuk> first was mcdonalds
May 08 13:21:33 * lcuk was really nervous
May 08 13:23:26 <lcuk> went into the Cavern club too, what an amazing atmosphere, we stood and danced for what seemed like hours in red hot conditions
May 08 13:36:14 <raininja> lcuk:  more like ssh
May 08 13:41:48 <lamiska> hello, anybody can help me? i installed meego 1.1 (with chrome) on my netbook (advent4213) and i cant get inbuild 3G modem working, in ubuntu 10.10 it was working just fine
May 08 14:00:43 <iekku> hi
May 08 14:13:18 <lcuk> raininja, well it exists?
May 08 14:13:42 <lcuk> what specifically did you expect?
May 08 14:53:46 <Guest25777> hi
May 08 14:53:55 <Alan1234> hi
May 08 14:54:13 <Guest25777> any body from pa
May 08 14:54:13 <Alan1234> I'm guessing it will be quiet here today
May 08 14:54:30 <Guest25777> anybody know how to help me make my comp faster
May 08 14:54:37 <Guest25777> yuplol
May 08 14:54:43 <Guest25777> im bout to go to church
May 08 14:54:47 <Guest25777> n a few
May 08 14:54:51 <Alan1234> Pensylvenia?
May 08 14:54:51 <Guest25777> im new on here
May 08 14:54:55 <Guest25777> yeah
May 08 14:55:12 <Alan1234> Best to just ask your MeeGo question
May 08 14:55:26 <Guest25777> wahat's tht
May 08 14:55:30 <Guest25777>  lol
May 08 14:55:45 <Guest25777> i do have problem's with my comp though
May 08 14:55:48 <Alan1234> I might not know the answer but I might be able to find an answer on http://forum.meego.com
May 08 14:55:55 <Guest25777> is that what it is
May 08 14:56:09 <iekku> Guest25777, are you running meego on it?
May 08 14:56:19 <Alan1234> Guest25777: this group is for talking about MeeGo, a version of Linux promoted by Intel (and Nokia)
May 08 14:56:34 <Guest25777> no
May 08 14:56:34 <Alan1234> if you aren't running MeeGo, or even Linux were are unlikely to be able to help you with your computer
May 08 14:56:49 <Guest25777> idk
May 08 14:56:55 <Guest25777> but i think im linux
May 08 14:57:00 <iekku> Alan1234, that was my point
May 08 14:57:21 <Guest25777> and ok might thoses help and i wanna put my real nick name up
May 08 15:05:07 <lcuk> meego-fi meeting is in the #meego-meeting channel if anyone is awake
May 08 15:07:59 <berndhs> not a very lively meeting
May 08 15:28:38 <Guest25777> lcuk?
May 08 15:28:45 <Guest25777> meego hun
May 08 15:29:07 <lcuk> Guest25777, ?
May 08 15:29:21 <Guest25777> what's meego-fi
May 08 15:29:33 <Guest25777> and the meeting chanel
May 08 15:30:24 <lcuk> meego finland channel and the meeting channel is where meetings take place
May 08 15:35:19 <Guest25777> oo
May 08 15:35:25 <Guest25777> how do i get there
May 08 15:35:38 <Guest25777> so yall do business and help with ideas?
May 08 15:37:31 <lcuk> Guest25777, dunno about business, I seem to be more personal oriented
May 08 16:16:00 <Guest25777> o
May 08 16:16:26 <Guest25777> but i wouldl ike help on that lol
May 08 16:16:58 <Guest25777> but what is the chanell and where is it
May 08 16:18:32 <lcuk> Guest25777, please get yourself an awesome nickname
May 08 16:18:42 <lcuk> calling you a guest when you want to get involved seems a bit odd
May 08 16:18:55 <dm8tbr> /nick awesome
May 08 16:19:25 <iekku> dm8tbr, :D
May 08 16:19:26 <Guest25777> you mean using your nick name is awesome
May 08 16:19:30 <Guest25777> well one sec
May 08 16:19:31 <RST38h> /nick Awesome25777
May 08 16:19:38 <Guest25777> how do i add my nickname
May 08 16:19:56 <RST38h> By typing /sign and pressing enter!
May 08 16:19:57 <iekku> Guest25777, new in irc also?
May 08 16:20:17 <Guest25777> great idea well i added a new region  i guess so it gave me a guest name lol
May 08 16:20:27 <Guest25777> yes lol
May 08 16:20:38 <Guest25777> right on the $
May 08 16:20:54 <Guest25777> what does Targets changing too fast, message dropped mean
May 08 16:21:17 <Guest25777> my real nickname is jay
May 08 16:21:30 <Guest25777> can u search someone by there nickname
May 08 16:21:32 <RST38h> creative.
May 08 16:21:41 <Guest25777> thanks dm
May 08 16:21:51 <Guest25777> and ic
May 08 16:22:10 <Guest25777> lol i know i just made one this morning
May 08 16:25:29 <Awesome25777> i
May 08 16:25:35 <Awesome25777> changed it
May 08 17:29:51 <kr1shnak> hi, I have an old Nokia n800 device and was wondering if it is possible to get meego installed on it?
May 08 17:30:52 <Stskeeps> sadly no
May 08 17:31:24 <kr1shnak> ah ok. Thats a shame. Thanks for answering though
May 08 17:51:25 <alterego> Urgh .. Channel 4 calling crackers, hackers. :/
May 08 17:51:31 <alterego> I might send an email
May 08 17:51:45 * alterego feels like an old age pensioner
May 08 17:51:46 <CosmoHill> alterego: please do
May 08 17:52:16 <CosmoHill> I don't like calling myself a hacker cos people go "oh you brake into computer systems, you bad person"
May 08 17:52:48 <CosmoHill> normally it's just me, red bull, a text editor (textmate) and a programming assignment
May 08 17:52:57 <alterego> :)
May 08 17:55:38 <CosmoHill> if you use the traditional meaning of a hacker, someone who hacks away at something over time until he / she has achieved their goal
May 08 17:55:47 <CosmoHill> most console owners are hackers
May 08 18:02:27 <berndhs> in the book "The Lost World", Arthur Conan Doyle complains loudly about the ignorance of journalists
May 08 18:02:40 <berndhs> this is from 1912
May 08 18:08:07 <alterego> Indeed
May 08 18:08:18 <alterego> Most journalists are pretty bias tbh
May 08 18:09:20 <CosmoHill> as long as it sells papers, who cares about the truth?
May 08 18:12:05 <alterego> Well, this was a news programme
May 08 18:12:27 <alterego> But you get the same on the internet, where there's little revenue intake from say, bloggers.
May 08 18:15:01 <Alan1234> most journalists are better described as copy editors
May 08 18:16:01 <Alan1234> real investigative journlism is so rare that when it actually happened they made a movie about it (All the President's Men - Woodward and Bernstein)
May 08 18:16:12 <Venemo> alterego, ping
May 08 18:16:18 <alterego> Hey Venemo
May 08 18:16:23 <alterego> Wassup?
May 08 18:16:46 <Venemo> do you have ~3 minutes for me?
May 08 18:16:48 <raininja> so , I guess I need the SDK
May 08 18:17:25 <raininja> or is there some other way of fixing the issue of no international font display in chrome?
May 08 18:17:47 <Venemo> I wasn't able to install rpmbuild on my N900 (since meego couldn't connect to anynetworks), so could you please test something for me?
May 08 18:17:49 <raininja> i need it anyway, if i want to buld packages (i guess)
May 08 18:18:08 <raininja> build*
May 08 18:18:19 <alterego> Sure
May 08 18:20:03 <Venemo> alterego, 'git@gitorious.org:colorful-apps/puzzle-master.git'; 'cd puzzle-master/rpm'; './create-rpm.sh'
May 08 18:20:09 <Venemo> eh
May 08 18:20:11 <Venemo> I mean
May 08 18:20:27 <Venemo> alterego, 'git clone git://gitorious.org/colorful-apps/puzzle-master.git'; 'cd puzzle-master/rpm'; './create-rpm.sh'
May 08 18:20:38 <Venemo> this should be the quickest way
May 08 18:23:00 <Venemo> you'll need rpmbuild installed and to run rpmdev-setuptree, if you haven't done so yet.
May 08 18:25:03 <alterego> Can't get it to work
May 08 18:26:30 <Venemo> what's wrong?
May 08 18:26:36 <alterego> cp cannot copy a directory into itself.
May 08 18:26:56 <Venemo> heh
May 08 18:27:41 <Venemo> it certainly doesn't want to cp a directory at all
May 08 18:36:39 <ryrych> hi guys!
May 08 18:37:41 <ryrych> I just dropped by to find out when Meego will be ready for consumption in n900? I would like to give it a try.
May 08 18:38:15 <cos^> ryrych: no.
May 08 18:38:42 <cos^> and my guess is that it never will be
May 08 18:39:08 <ryrych> cos^: completely or for n900?
May 08 18:39:19 <cos^> for n900
May 08 18:39:32 <phaeron> there's a DE program
May 08 18:40:49 <cos^> it's a old device not manufactured anymore, i don't see any point in making consumer ready meego for it
May 08 18:41:08 <phaeron> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/DeveloperEdition
May 08 18:41:47 <phaeron> hence developer edition
May 08 18:41:57 <ryrych> cos^: I see. So let’s hope that there will be other devices
May 08 18:42:18 <cos^> ryrych: at least one meego device is promised this year from nokia
May 08 18:42:34 <cos^> and hopefully some will come from other manufacturers
May 08 18:43:27 <ryrych> cos^ so how are devs testing meego? on which device?
May 08 18:44:06 <cos^> ryrych: i'm not working for nokia so i don't know, but my guess is n900 and/or the next phone
May 08 18:44:31 <ph0b028> notebooks, tablets like exopc and for handset : aava
May 08 18:45:09 <ph0b028> beagleboard for arm handset
May 08 18:45:41 <ryrych> ph0b028: thanks for info
May 08 18:46:15 <ryrych> last question: version 1.2 was expected to be in April. Was it put off?
May 08 18:47:35 <Stskeeps> ryrych: was postponed 3 weeks, expected landing at 19th
May 08 18:48:04 <ryrych> Stskeeps: thank you
May 08 18:48:22 <ryrych> OK folks, thanks for your help! Bye for now!
May 08 19:26:34 <thiago_home> could someone check if they can add new sessions at http://sf2011.meego.com/node/add/session ?
May 08 19:40:33 <Jaffa> thiago_home: Yes. http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/test-thiago
May 08 19:40:41 <thiago_home> thanks
May 08 19:40:49 * Jaffa now deletes
May 08 19:40:56 <thiago_home> now we just need to announce it
May 08 19:49:56 <dD0T> Considering trying meego on my n900. Are the power management issues fixed yet, don't want to risk to damage my phone. Thanks.
May 08 20:12:50 <Stskeeps> dD0T: we have a cpu frequency scaling kernel and it's not as hot anymore :)
May 08 20:14:17 <dD0T> Stskeeps: That sounds promising ;-)
May 08 20:14:39 <Stskeeps> dD0T: meego n900 may at any point eat your device, such is experimental stuff :P
May 08 20:15:02 <Stskeeps> (disclaimer complete)
May 08 20:15:39 <dD0T> Stskeeps: That would be a shame. I like my n900. But as long as the probability is low enough...it's not that I expect it to replace my maemo anytime soon.
May 08 20:15:49 <Stskeeps> i haven't killed mine yet
May 08 20:17:16 <dD0T> Stskeeps: Fair enough ;-)
May 08 20:23:05 <CosmoHill> "MeeGo, it's not killed my device yet"
May 08 20:29:59 <ver> is pulseaudio really meego's core audio framework?
May 08 20:31:42 <Stskeeps> yes
May 08 20:33:07 <dD0T> Stskeeps: Hm. Which release would you recommend for a first try? Most current daily?
May 08 20:33:18 <Stskeeps> dD0T: wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/DE
May 08 20:33:36 <Stskeeps> take the [B[B[B[Ber, DE = DeveloperEdition
May 08 20:33:48 <dD0T> Stskeeps: Now that page doesn't exist unless my browser is messing with me
May 08 20:34:03 <Stskeeps> wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/DeveloperEdition
May 08 20:34:41 <Stskeeps> alpha release
May 08 20:34:55 <dD0T> Week 15 AR I guess
May 08 20:38:22 <dD0T> Stskeeps: How far does the seperation between my internal flash and the meego on the sd card go. Will the internal flash be used for anything (apart from the bootloader), is it mounted as another drive?
May 08 20:44:10 <Stskeeps> dD0T: use microsd card and uboot
May 08 20:46:24 <dD0T> Stskeeps: That's what I intended to. Just wondering whether meego will also mount my internal flash or even modify it
May 08 21:04:22 <alterego> dD0T: nope, wont touch it,
May 08 21:04:38 <dD0T> alterego: Nice
May 08 21:07:33 <pupnik> Stskeeps: hmm
May 08 21:21:49 * lbt mentions to Jaffa that the 2nd call for papers is out for sf2011
May 08 21:22:14 <lbt> mailing list from thiago  ... for MWN obviously
May 08 21:37:06 <GAN900> lbt, which list?
May 08 21:37:51 <lbt> mmm [MeeGo-dev] as it happens
May 08 21:37:57 <lbt> odd
May 08 21:38:19 <lbt> thiago_home: did you mean to cc other lists?
May 08 21:39:19 <GAN900> lbt, noted. Thanks.
May 08 21:47:06 * CosmoHill wonders how the hell he restarted the SSH demon without getting disconnected
May 08 21:47:09 <lbt> GAN900: also... http://pininthemap.com/maemo seems to have gone ... as I mentioned (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=544291&postcount=101) it's a good idea not to rely on ad-hoc external services
May 08 21:47:48 <lbt> anyhow ... -> bed
May 08 21:47:52 <CosmoHill> night ngiht
May 08 21:47:59 <Robot101> CosmoHill: it forks for each connection
May 08 21:48:23 <alterego> lbt: did you have any luck talking to the hotel?
May 08 21:48:34 <lbt> alterego: yes
May 08 21:48:54 <lbt> I called and they said they had a reservation and no issue with ccard
May 08 21:49:05 <lbt> I replied to the intel bod
May 08 21:49:06 <alterego> Weird :D
May 08 21:49:12 <lbt> yeah
May 08 21:51:08 <sofar> CosmoHill: restarting sshd doesn't close the session processes -> sshd forks one for each session
May 08 21:52:25 <CosmoHill> thanks, I got it
May 08 22:01:07 <thiago_home> lbt: I just sent where I wanted to send.
May 08 22:01:14 <thiago_home> lbt: but forwarding to other lists is appreciated
May 08 23:11:27 <CosmoHill> bye
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