**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 10 02:59:58 2011 May 10 04:59:51 morning May 10 05:10:16 morning May 10 06:23:15 <_|Nix|_> Hi! I'm trying to build syncevolution from sources. Can someone please help me? What are the parameters I should pass to configure? May 10 07:37:02 are there any examples that comes with MeeGo SDK? May 10 07:47:57 bkalinga, for MeeGo ux applications? May 10 08:02:38 morning \o May 10 08:04:06 vvaltone: i have Meego Handset UX sdk May 10 08:04:29 could you please point me where to look at for examples along with source code May 10 08:38:48 application output from qt creator when application launched on MeeGo Qemu May 10 08:38:49 http://pastebin.com/8FJ5cGEj May 10 08:39:03 i see few errors and skip statement May 10 08:39:29 does it mean something is missing in my setup or is it broken May 10 09:01:05 Moin May 10 09:01:28 lbt, how far are you with the BOSS release cycle ? May 10 09:03:30 ScriptRipper: We have a static RC snapshot and we run Testing as a production deployment right now May 10 09:04:14 I think we need to be clearer about the split between BOSS and the process workers May 10 09:05:29 ScriptRipper: why do you ask ? May 10 09:25:30 mikhas: the mtf dep for maliit was gone wasn't it? May 10 09:25:49 or able to be, that is May 10 09:26:19 Stskeeps, the framework can be compiled without LMT, yes May 10 09:26:40 the keyboard itself still uses LMT, for its widgets and theming system May 10 09:26:54 ok May 10 09:26:59 It's not an unrealistic goal to clean that up for MeeGo 1.3 May 10 09:27:02 it just ... takes time May 10 09:27:35 it's a good keyboard (compared to HIM) so probably worth time May 10 09:27:42 more importantly, I've removed all LMT API from our API's May 10 09:28:06 it does not play out its full strength yet in MeeGo, which is sad May 10 09:28:23 haptic and tactile feedback, proper word engines (also for Chinese) ... May 10 09:28:44 well, that's why I have a talk @ SF I guess ;-) May 10 09:28:53 :nod: May 10 09:29:06 i always wondered about the immersion player, why someone couldnt make a oss replacement May 10 09:29:21 so to make it a bit more clear: keyboard plugins can already get rid of LMT completely, with the framework version I pushed into MeeGo 1.2 May 10 09:29:49 I will have more news about that soonish, with a demo of course May 10 09:41:32 mikhas, is it feasible or practical to consider qml based keyboard frontend itself? May 10 09:44:05 lcuk, it does not really make sense, but yes, I have a QML keyboard here May 10 09:44:46 the keyboard is not only UI you know ... and even the UI part: why give up something that is really fast these days? I'll stick with QGraphicsView, really. May 10 09:44:56 ++ May 10 09:48:29 when I try to run qml test application in MeeGo qemu ..it does not show anything... May 10 09:48:32 desired output is http://i54.tinypic.com/wjhxs8.png actual output coming is http://i56.tinypic.com/98zs0g.png May 10 09:49:03 can someone point out what could be the problem May 10 09:50:54 Hello humans May 10 09:51:30 bkalinga, have you tried running it on device itself? May 10 09:51:32 hi RST38h \o May 10 09:51:39 no May 10 09:51:56 on Qemu 1.1.99.4.20110426.4-runtime May 10 10:22:13 i downloaded the latest qt creator/sdk thingy, but many of the qt quick examples are missing dependencies to run May 10 10:26:59 lcuk: what dependence? May 10 10:27:04 lcuk: yeah, like QtMobility, ain't it swell... May 10 10:30:11 X-Fade: how are we on Apps? May 10 10:30:22 anything I need to do? May 10 10:31:42 tmpsantos, QDeclarativeView May 10 10:31:55 that is using the first qt quick example in the list on the welcome screen after installation May 10 10:52:58 has anyone tried building meego-app-camera? does it need the specific meego sdk (it is mostly qml) or should it be possible to build directly on the normal qt installation? May 10 11:10:43 lcuk: what do you mean by "normal qt installation"? May 10 11:11:21 also what do you mean by "latest qt creator/sdk thingy"? May 10 11:14:03 ali1234, I got the latest one: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/05/04/qt-sdk-1-1-released/ May 10 11:14:29 and a lot of the qt quick applications are not able to be run May 10 11:20:27 ok, the nokia qt sdk May 10 11:22:01 qt.nokia.com May 10 11:22:30 oh good firefox is doing that thing where it doesn't accept focus any more and everything you type goes to the last window you clicked it May 10 11:58:05 Like other SDKs; will MeeGo1.2 contain a set of examples which developers can tryout for the understating/learning? May 10 12:24:15 is QtGStreamer part of the SDK or how can one use it with qtcreator? May 10 12:33:47 lbt: sorry, was in a meeting May 10 12:34:09 on call -- bbiab May 10 12:34:25 I ask because I want to setup for testing a "relatively stable" version of combo OBS / BOSS May 10 12:34:32 with more recent BOSS version May 10 12:35:17 and see if some basic BOSS works, like e-mails to ML and so on May 10 12:35:53 and see the event interface live before I think about even changing that in OBS May 10 12:36:23 also check if BOSS works with apache May 10 12:41:04 ScriptRipper: #meego-boss May 10 12:41:22 Ah, I did not know this :D May 10 12:43:35 lbt: is it thought as also a discussion channel ? May 10 12:52:17 lbt, are you still there ? May 10 12:52:23 call May 10 12:52:26 ok May 10 13:24:37 so ScriptRipper ... another call coming up ... srt May 10 13:24:39 sry May 10 13:24:58 but ... you should be able to use: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Installation May 10 13:25:19 use :Testing today May 10 13:29:15 does qt creator have a qml designer? May 10 13:29:54 i loaded a project with qml and it shows as only text May 10 13:33:45 lcuk: click on the "designer" button in the left hand side bar that goes down the window May 10 13:33:54 (With an open QML file) May 10 13:34:27 module 'MeeGo.labs.Components' is not installed. May 10 13:34:35 Yeah, you'll get that. May 10 13:34:38 :D May 10 13:34:50 * lcuk nods and shakes head May 10 13:34:54 how can I install it? May 10 13:34:56 You need it compiled and installed for the host machine for designer May 10 13:35:04 Dunno, I never use QML designer. May 10 13:35:06 :) May 10 13:35:14 Git checkout, qmake, make, make install :) May 10 13:35:21 yeah I know I remember talking to ou when you were first playing with QML May 10 13:35:53 so if I make a new qt quick app, the designer should be working? May 10 13:35:59 Yes May 10 13:36:11 But not if you're using meego-ux-components, because you don't have that plugin installed May 10 13:39:13 alterego, so do I install the meego sdk ? May 10 13:39:48 I don't think that is necessary. May 10 13:40:08 tbh, I don't really know what you have to do to get it working. May 10 13:40:16 I'd have to go through myself and I don't realy have the time right now. May 10 13:40:47 Actually, May 10 13:40:56 Just seen the package: meego-ux-components May 10 13:41:01 sorry, meegoux-components May 10 13:41:21 What host OS are you using? May 10 14:26:07 I really like the way the SDK emails set out the list of bugs May 10 14:26:09 [MeeGo-SDK] [Meego-qa] MeeGo SDK Bug Triage Meeting http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-sdk/2011-May/001247.html May 10 14:26:13 those for discussion May 10 14:26:41 lcuk: I was thinking the same thing. Wondered if you had something to do with it. :-) May 10 14:28:27 no, I just saw the mail and noticed they were there May 10 14:31:30 Hello i've got a problem with creating panel for MeeGo toolbar. Can somebody help me? May 10 14:32:39 funnybunny, it's more likely to receive help if you *describe* the problem May 10 14:34:57 heh andre__ that is always the way May 10 14:35:17 how are you anyway? May 10 14:35:26 okey, i'll try sorry for bad english :) i'm using test example, then i try to launch it it says "Sorry, App is broken". I configured and put the *.service file, the *.desktop file and the css file into directories like MeeGo's panels files. May 10 14:35:56 lcuk: reports of my death were slightly exaggerated, I'd say :) May 10 14:36:11 good May 10 14:36:20 funnybunny, what "test example"? May 10 14:36:28 I saw a kilted bagpipe player whilst away this weekend May 10 14:36:32 made me smile :) May 10 14:36:36 haha May 10 14:37:20 Heh, started hacking together a meego ux components based qml dialer UX now :) May 10 14:37:40 Well, more like playing with the components to see which ones I can use, whilst designing the UX May 10 14:37:54 I think it'll transpose over the current code base quite well. May 10 14:37:55 https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-netbook-ux/mutter-meego/blobs/master/libmeego-panel/tests/test-panel-gtk.c here it is) May 10 14:39:47 Except some weird modal dialog glitch. May 10 14:52:30 hi all May 10 14:53:11 Is there a ready made distro of the wonderful Intel tablet UX meego with a recent core (with fix to the wifi powersaving issue from 2.32) to download? May 10 15:02:53 is there a holiday I am not aware of thatthe channel is so quite? May 10 15:07:01 guten morgen May 10 15:07:12 moin :) May 10 15:07:38 wie gehts, wie stehs? May 10 15:08:00 hehe... quite fine May 10 15:08:08 great May 10 15:08:13 :) May 10 15:10:03 Oh gawd, it's happening again May 10 15:10:17 hey andre__ May 10 15:10:21 slaine: ? May 10 15:10:48 Rumors for Intel using PowerVR for upcoming Atoms, Cedarview May 10 15:11:05 * slaine is still burnt from GMA500 May 10 15:13:44 slaine: ahh May 10 15:13:47 bah May 10 15:14:08 slaine: plenty of people, not only on x86 are burnt by that... May 10 15:14:26 Rumors that hint ad the 9XX core currently used on Pinetrail+ being dropped in favor of PowerVR May 10 15:14:30 at May 10 15:14:48 dm8tbr: nod May 10 15:15:17 I was hoping that the Larabee project would have had some knock on effect of having clear GPU roadmap from the graphics team May 10 15:15:25 just look at bug 5616 if you want a taste... May 10 15:15:27 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616 nor, Undecided, 1.1.90.7, viroteck, RELE FIXED, Certain fonts are garbled May 10 15:16:11 Wonder what that means for Core i3|5|7 cpu's, they'll probably stick with the intel graphics cores May 10 15:20:01 slaine: for intel it is a smart move - they can feed mktg with blurbs like 'proven IP core for embedded 3d' May 10 15:20:32 It probably makes sense if they're pushing Atom down into ARM power areas May 10 15:20:46 also they don't have to fear the 'consumers' as those rarely will build a system with such a SoC from the ground up May 10 15:20:48 it's a power efficient GPU core. May 10 15:21:00 But it's a PITA for us in Linux land May 10 15:21:06 absolutely May 10 15:21:19 and a PITA for future MeeGo if Upstream first isn't to be abandoned. May 10 15:21:33 but the management rationale there: you get a PlatformSupportPackage and take it or GTFO May 10 15:21:42 Add to that MSFT buying out Skype and I'm not having a good day May 10 15:21:59 TI has been doing it for ages May 10 15:22:56 nod, the problem has always been the lag between PlatformSupportPackage and realistic current platform May 10 15:22:59 you want to do fancy stuff with a TI SoC - you better buy it in numbers (7+ figures) and you only get support if you use whatever TI patched to death May 10 15:23:25 Yeah, but small businesses that build out atom gear with linux OS's are toast May 10 15:23:35 * slaine is one of those small businesses May 10 15:23:37 sure, take the PSP or die May 10 15:24:07 a critical show stopper bug in the PSP? sorry wontfix, just buy the next gen silicon, fixed for that PSP May 10 15:24:31 intel is betting on meego May 10 15:25:00 * gabrbedd is one of those small businesses May 10 15:25:04 so they'll assure linux will get proper sgx drivers (open drivers) *IF* they will use sgx May 10 15:25:15 sure, that does not mean though that they will suddenly be all FOSS about their stuff May 10 15:25:34 (btw, i'm using a gma500 atm with linux..) May 10 15:25:55 with or without the SGX... May 10 15:25:59 :dm8tbr: yes, you're right, of course, but they try hard May 10 15:26:20 of course with sgx.. all the fancy 3d stuff May 10 15:26:54 if Intel goes SGX once again then I predict that this stuff will stay closed source and there is nothing that will change this. The only chance would be to reverse-engineer the f*ck out of that May 10 15:27:05 hasn't drivers for the devil improved by now? even if they are blobs? May 10 15:27:50 dm8tbr: we'll see... sivang: yes, they're quite okay May 10 15:27:55 compiz is totally working May 10 15:28:03 (Nokia Booklet 3G) May 10 15:29:07 unrelated to graphics: May 10 15:29:15 what do you guys think about QML? May 10 15:30:43 nice but not quite there yet (I'm not a developer though) May 10 15:30:57 I think QML is related to graphics :) May 10 15:30:57 is it a cool way to develop apps as fast or faster than for iOS and Android or not (yet)? May 10 15:31:17 :D I menat unrelated to graphic-cards May 10 15:31:20 gpu May 10 15:31:35 depends developer May 10 15:31:36 zehjotkah: if you want to do audio output you need qtmobility and that makes setting up a dev env more complicated (at least for me) May 10 15:31:54 okay, thanks a lot May 10 16:06:56 DawnFoster: is there any news on exo pc programme? Guess unlikely to happen pre conference? (I wanted to port my app to tablet ux, on a tablet) :) May 10 16:07:43 I'm still hoping to get the application form online later this week May 10 16:08:09 but it will take a month or so to gather applications, pick the best one & start distributing May 10 16:09:27 Yeah, well never mind :) May 10 16:09:48 I've got other stuff I can demo I guess :) May 10 16:11:51 dm8tbr, QAudioOutput is in QtMultimedia module May 10 16:14:17 tomma: so? May 10 16:14:24 no need for mobility May 10 16:14:55 tomma: pure qml example that will run in qmlviewer? May 10 16:16:02 oh ok May 10 16:16:56 I know I'd need to write a qt wrapper anyway for proper deployment May 10 16:17:56 but FFS why not make mobility work with qmlviewer... May 10 16:19:28 Who have experience in creating panels for MeeGo toolbar? May 10 16:19:49 nice parking-for-sale attempt by go-daddy: http://www.meeego.com/ May 10 17:07:19 lol http://www.linkedin.com/osview/canvas?_ch_page_id=1&_ch_panel_id=1&_ch_app_id=1900&_applicationId=1900&_ownerId=0&appParams={%22section%22:%22results%22,%22profile%22:%229c4f3489-66fb-41e8-bb51-2d550063722c%22,%22poll_id%22:%22133208%22,%22external_option_id%22:%22530243%22} May 10 18:13:58 mwichmann: there? May 10 18:14:18 who, me? May 10 18:14:26 ... I guess so May 10 18:19:53 I'm not such a big fan of compliance issues, but this really extends the limits :) http://meego.se May 10 18:22:30 sivang: here now May 10 18:23:46 mwichmann: have we made any progress on embodying quality guidelines into either the UI guidelines and/or compliance spec? May 10 18:23:52 mwichmann: been a while since we discussed that.. May 10 18:24:10 short answer: no progress May 10 18:25:15 mwichmann: nice :) May 10 18:25:30 for some definition of nice, I guess.... :( May 10 18:25:31 mwichmann: where to ask if there is an intention to progress on that? on a related, will you be in SF? May 10 18:25:58 mwichmann: that is the Israeli way to swallow the current situation and continue striving to do better :-) May 10 18:26:12 May 10 18:26:33 hi-tech way, not on politics, we're completely frozen and getting more isolated there.. May 10 18:26:34 seems like I'll be at this one May 10 18:27:11 mwichmann: great, can we sit and talk whom/what to do to start kicking this one wheel wagon? May 10 18:27:26 absolutely May 10 18:27:34 mwichmann: when are you arriving? May 10 18:28:04 not till Sunday afternoon or evening or whatever it works out to May 10 18:28:30 mwichmann: I see the UI guideline dude is perhaps from Haifa, I could try and email him but felt uncomfortalbe to intrude on him out of the blue May 10 18:28:45 mwichmann: well, has an Hebrew name at least May 10 18:29:20 mwichmann: I'd like to CC you on this email intrusion :-) but I forgot your address May 10 18:31:21 mwichmann: I attended what had to be the largest mobile development conference till date in Israel, I learned that due to the compliance specs and lack of UI compliance Android development is a shot in the dark when you want to write once run everywhere May 10 18:31:56 so I hear via scuttlebutt May 10 18:32:06 mwichmann: so if we pull ourselves together we might get better at that if we just make sure platform and quality expectation are co-ordinated May 10 18:32:21 I would LOVE to be able to do that giving us quite a competitve edge a sa platfrom for vendors May 10 18:32:34 although how bad it's reported to be seems to depend partly on how big an axe to grind the writer has (android stuff I meant) May 10 18:33:37 mwichmann: true, but with Qt should not have to grind above FW level, apart from some GL glitches, I think we are at the right direction May 10 18:33:45 mwichmann: android has odd loose ends,like May 10 18:33:48 yes, agree it would be great if we could lead here, although seems some things have to settle down a bit May 10 18:33:55 mwichmann: like? May 10 18:34:11 so a classic example May 10 18:34:21 the contacts sotrage is not available on the tablets May 10 18:34:51 so people writing code to store contacts, get an arbitrary value 0 for available storage May 10 18:34:55 code on the tablet May 10 18:35:00 or on different vendor's handsets May 10 18:35:21 so, a company who has been established on writing an improved socially aware contact app for iOS and Android May 10 18:35:30 I was thinking of things like meegotouch, and qtgraphicsview, which are in but seem to be on their way out May 10 18:35:38 ohhh May 10 18:35:39 I see May 10 18:35:44 okay May 10 18:35:45 got'cha May 10 18:35:54 quite instrumental for this discussion May 10 18:36:42 however, if what we do is right, nobody would care to be "meego based" May 10 18:36:52 as this would mean virtually nothing in terms of API support May 10 18:37:09 being 'core meego' would then mean a great deal May 10 18:37:19 a promise for meaningful results from API May 10 18:37:30 anyway May 10 18:37:37 let's discuss there, seems it is going to be fun May 10 18:38:05 yep, look forward to it May 10 18:38:31 last remark, they told me there's a test suite and everything but the test suite for droids allow you to pass even if you don't provide a meaningful field in your contacts backend implementation May 10 18:38:53 causing many many issues with developers using the API to access contact's fields May 10 18:38:54 ... May 10 18:38:58 and now I'm spent :-) May 10 18:39:30 oops, that sounds unfortunate May 10 18:39:39 err, sentence came broken: a test suite enforces compliance, but failed to embody 'quality' guidelines May 10 18:39:51 I hope you get the idea... May 10 18:40:23 sure, and it's easier to test the api is there, and still has the right signature than that it does something meaningful... May 10 18:40:31 one vendor includes just one field, other does not, another does not have the contacts stoage backend at all so they had to reimpliment using sqlite May 10 18:40:39 mwichmann: precsily! May 10 18:40:45 you hit my worry point May 10 18:41:06 so their testing is more like typ inspection than something useful May 10 18:41:07 mine now too (been dragged into sdk side) May 10 18:41:14 great May 10 18:41:29 how can we schedule an ad-hoc bof for that? May 10 18:41:37 or some constelation for discussion? May 10 18:42:41 well... I'm available, but not sure I can organize... May 10 18:44:07 * mwichmann has to duck out for a while May 10 18:44:23 mwichmann: quack, quack, baby! May 10 19:01:11 mwichmann: lol May 10 19:12:09 githogori: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck May 10 19:12:19 it's ducktape May 10 19:12:22 ;( May 10 19:12:26 ;) May 10 19:12:32 night all May 10 19:12:34 see you soon May 10 19:59:18 Is Skype well known for nomming battery? May 10 19:59:35 (not while calling, just while sleeping in the background on your desk) May 10 20:02:09 orospakr, on which os/build/ux? May 10 20:04:55 Stskeeps: LBN day 2 sent May 10 20:07:49 lcuk, CM7, G2. May 10 20:11:00 is anyone aware of the PackageKit-browser-plugin package? May 10 20:11:30 it's empty and apparently (I presume) it's to allow installation of packages from the browser through gpk May 10 20:15:35 Which browser? :) May 10 20:28:03 thiago_home: thanks, was giving a talk and on way back from krakow so couldnt do it May 10 20:30:25 will reply mine too May 10 20:36:22 n/p May 10 20:37:56 Stskeeps: are you replying now? May 10 20:38:19 Hey qgil May 10 20:38:30 hi there alterego May 10 20:38:42 * w00t_ moseys in May 10 20:38:49 Is there a channel for people that do meego ux components? May 10 20:38:59 Hey w00t_ May 10 20:39:32 I can't figure out how to get rid of the book menu :/ May 10 20:40:37 Hrm May 10 20:41:50 Stskeeps: if so, please correct my email to the personal one. I sent from the KDE one by accident. May 10 20:44:14 thiago_home: the .info one? May 10 20:44:59 speaking of emails, please disregard anything any of you got from me May 10 20:45:36 apparently my email was hacked, part of Sony's PSN fiasco May 10 20:46:06 :/ May 10 20:46:08 Lame May 10 20:46:17 Stskeeps: yes, or .org May 10 20:46:18 I have had a few odd emails recently ;) May 10 20:46:31 Stskeeps: I've begun replying, if you want to wait for my email May 10 20:48:43 alterego, indeed, apparently I spammed maemo-dev :/ May 10 20:51:33 Eek May 10 20:51:57 This is why I have a spam email account that I use for signing up to silly things like PSN :P May 10 20:52:02 Though I don't have a PSN account May 10 20:52:05 Still :) May 10 20:52:12 I keep work and play quite seperate. May 10 20:52:37 alterego, I don't use my gmail account on PSN May 10 20:52:46 same password though :P May 10 20:53:42 I don't get this "books" concept in MeeGo UX Components May 10 20:55:42 alterego, fancy name for stacked windows? May 10 20:55:55 No, that's the pages in a book May 10 20:56:06 Well, seems like it's multidimensional anyway. May 10 20:56:15 But Surely and app would have _1_ book .. May 10 20:56:21 Or could have _1_ book .. May 10 20:56:23 oh so meego has stacked windows? yay May 10 20:57:00 Is it as simple as a window flag/attribute in MeeGo? May 10 20:57:15 Simpler really, but more .. Well, declarative :P May 10 20:57:31 ala Qt::WA_Maemo5StackedWindow May 10 20:58:02 elaborate :P May 10 20:58:03 It's just inherent in the way you design meego component based apps. May 10 20:58:36 Stskeeps: sent my votes May 10 20:58:59 alterego, I was referring to Qt, not MTF May 10 20:59:18 I was refering to meego ux components, not MTF or Qt :P May 10 20:59:37 thiago_home: ok, mine too, (was a bit slow to do so, laggy gprs) May 10 21:00:25 Stskeeps: will summarise now May 10 21:02:08 thiago_home: thanks May 10 21:15:09 would people be interested on a BOF about XBMC on MeeGo? May 10 21:19:46 arfoll: depends on the demo media May 10 21:20:02 The MeeGo UX based QML dialer prototype I'm mocking up doesn't look nearly as impressive as I thought it would. May 10 21:20:10 lbt, what do you mean by demo media? May 10 21:20:14 Well, I actually think my one looks more attractive .. May 10 21:20:33 alterego: good for feedback May 10 21:20:49 you'd like to see xbmc run on different devices? May 10 21:21:03 alterego: without seeing it - needs more cowbell!!11!! May 10 21:21:11 Heh May 10 21:21:17 Stskeeps: sent, with time suggestion May 10 21:21:54 arfoll: talk to dcarr too, as he's presenting http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/qtmediahub-implementation-xbmc-inspired-media-player-qml May 10 21:22:03 arfoll: *g* nm May 10 21:22:08 If by cowbell you mean ring tone, then yes. ... Hey, I get put my pants on one leg at a time like all of you, the difference is, afterwards I make gold star QML dialer interfaces. May 10 21:22:42 thiago_home, yeah i spoke with him at MWC, but that's fairly different if not completely irrelevant to XBMC on Meego May 10 21:22:50 apart from the the fact it looks like it May 10 21:23:17 the idea was to talk more about XBMC in meego 1.2 TV and how we can port it to other verticals May 10 21:24:45 arfoll: ok May 10 21:27:40 skype bought by microsoft. Does that concern meegoers? May 10 21:28:29 There's some really cool meego tablet concepts: http://gdgtgw.com/images/medium/meego-slate-evolve.jpg May 10 21:30:18 kkal: it concerns me as a skype user May 10 21:45:21 kkal, we shouldn't have been using a proprietary service like that in the first place, clearly. *g* May 10 21:47:15 I've kind of decided the meego ux is sort of boring. May 10 21:50:27 alterego: Yeah, it needs more cowbell. May 10 21:50:30 and bacon. May 10 21:50:46 gabrbedd: you pinged me last night, what's up? May 10 21:52:00 alterego: you had said you were going to bed about 3 or 4 times. I was just seeing if you did. :-) May 10 21:52:13 Hahah May 10 21:52:18 Fair enough May 10 21:53:04 :-) May 10 21:58:35 if meego us had free beer, it would be much more popular May 10 21:59:55 * gabrbedd writes a free beer panel May 10 22:05:25 "Go 0.5 miles and turn LEFT for FREE BEER" May 10 22:05:45 "Go an additional 0.25 miles for DOLLAR BEERS" May 10 22:06:05 tomorrow May 10 22:24:30 huhu May 10 23:35:58 dmb: May 10 23:36:07 oops, my bad May 10 23:36:20 tab complete error :P May 10 23:49:31 re: would people be interested on a BOF about XBMC on MeeGo? -- YES May 10 23:51:48 btw is there some special trick to getting qtmultimediakit qml video player working in meego 1.2 May 10 23:52:05 i seem to see the same problems i do w/ the tablet-ux video and music players May 10 23:52:32 which is that it doesn't play... but moving the cue point gives 'QDBusPlayerControl::position(): 0 ' May 10 23:52:33 there is a meego 1.2 ? May 10 23:53:02 =http://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest-testing-1.2/repos/oss/ia32/packages May 10 23:54:04 neways and when it starts i see 'QDBusPlayerControl::QDBusPlayerControl() ' May 10 23:54:09 but nothing starts playing May 10 23:57:12 I can't figure out what is the difference between latest, latest-testing, latest-1.2 and all the rest May 10 23:57:32 latest is now 1.3 May 10 23:57:58 I know it is all parallellism at its finest May 10 23:58:34 the 1.2.80 stuff is 1.3, but really early versions May 10 23:58:37 not parallel enough for lenovo: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=574 :-( May 10 23:58:53 (good for linux tho) May 10 23:59:58 pre-installed with Ubu 10.0, an outdated version :) May 11 00:00:14 10.10 rather **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 11 02:59:58 2011