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May 16 03:00:14 <shinkamui> meego seems to be struggling to initialize the ui
May 16 03:00:23 <shinkamui> what should I look at?
May 16 03:01:05 <shinkamui> the last thing I did was modify the portrait rotation key using gconftool-2
May 16 03:01:13 <shinkamui> but of course that doesn't work when X isn't running
May 16 03:06:33 <shinkamui> screw it
May 16 03:06:39 <shinkamui> ill just reinstall, I hadn't done much anyway
May 16 03:51:38 <iekku> mornign
May 16 08:22:23 <arhyttin> hi, does anybody know: what driver does Meego use for eGalax touch screens (if it has a driver in it for that at all)?
May 16 08:23:03 <arhyttin> Ubuntu uses evtouch, with a calibration tool that, how shall I say this, could use more than a bit of work
May 16 08:23:44 <arhyttin> what kind of touchscreen calibratino does Meego have, is there anything Meego-specific or is it just standard Linux stuff, (ie. driver dependent etc)?
May 16 08:25:26 <tomeu> I have been using the vendor-provided driver (and calibration tool) for an egalax screen here
May 16 08:27:10 <arhyttin> tomeu: ok. you mean wendor of the display / tablet device?
May 16 08:27:40 <tomeu> the one here: http://home.eeti.com.tw/web20/eGalaxTouchDriver/linuxDriver.htm
May 16 08:30:13 <arhyttin> tomeu: thanks, I'll check that out!
May 16 08:31:12 <arhyttin> ...so I gather this probably means, that Meego itself does not have touch screen calibration framework?
May 16 08:39:11 <RST38h> EHLO ALL
May 16 09:03:53 <lcuk> :) I imported most of the sketches I have ever drawn in liqbase into one graffiti wall on the ideapad :)
May 16 09:04:47 * lcuk has one of the very first smiley faces Jake ever drew :)
May 16 09:05:06 <lcuk> all the way through until today!
May 16 09:07:01 <alterego> :)
May 16 09:10:51 <timeless_w7ip> sp3000: i wonder if i could interest people in indian buffet for lunch sometime this week
May 16 09:42:55 * lbt notes that http://sf2011.meego.com has no easy "contact us"
May 16 09:45:11 * arfoll notes that the same site has lost all avatar jpg's
May 16 09:54:24 <lbt> arfoll: yeah ... low prio apparentl
May 16 09:54:25 <lbt> y
May 16 09:55:07 <lbt> anyone have Ashley Walker's email?
May 16 09:55:34 <X-Fade> lbt: first.last @ nokia.
May 16 09:55:49 <lbt> :)
May 16 10:11:32 <mikhas> how can I trigger rotation on an IdeaPad with MeeGo 1.2 Tablet UX?
May 16 10:12:03 <mikhas> seems that certain views are always in portrait mode, but how to switch the whole device to portrait mode?
May 16 10:12:35 <w00t_> mikhas: I maintain that's a bug, I just never get time to look into it
May 16 10:27:49 <sweb> can i install meego on android phones ? like x10 mini pro sony erricson ?
May 16 10:31:00 <timeless_w7ip> x-fade: someone's @ nokia? :o
May 16 10:50:34 <dm8tbr> sweb: if you do the adaptation work yourself, yes
May 16 12:46:49 * lcuk puts a sim into n900-de machine and sees how it works
May 16 12:50:06 * alterego watches as lcuk's n900 sets on fire and he runs around with a burning arm.
May 16 12:50:13 <alterego> That's how we roll :)
May 16 12:50:43 <lcuk> nothing new there.
May 16 13:00:10 <lcuk> alterego, when you get back from lunch, can you post screenies from latest dialer, or tell us how to build/install/rn the latest version on -de?
May 16 13:01:05 <alterego> Seems to be a bit of a problem people are having installing on the latest images.
May 16 13:01:08 <alterego> Don't know why
May 16 13:01:17 <alterego> Bad use of zypper I think. :)
May 16 13:01:43 <alterego> lcuk: it should just be a matter of adding this repo: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/tswindell:/branches:/MeeGo.com:/Trunk/Project_DE_Trunk_Testing_standard/
May 16 13:01:52 <alterego> And updating the meego-handset-dialer package.
May 16 13:02:13 <Stskeeps|holiday> package name same?
May 16 13:02:17 <alterego> But people seem to be having an issue doing that for some reason ..
May 16 13:02:19 <alterego> Stskeeps|holiday: yes
May 16 13:03:20 <lcuk> Stskeeps|holiday, how is mrs stskeeps doing?  are you stateside already
May 16 13:03:44 <Stskeeps|holiday> lcuk: both of us, yeah
May 16 13:04:09 <lcuk> are you jetlagged, it seems ealry
May 16 13:04:11 <lcuk> early
May 16 13:05:05 <alterego> Grr, that image write seemed to have failed.
May 16 13:05:11 <alterego> I hope this card isn't on its' way out :/
May 16 13:05:13 <Stskeeps|holiday> just exhausted. we were 24 hours awake saturday on tad dramatic flights. then 8am-8pm sunday and waking up earlier today
May 16 13:05:26 * lcuk nods
May 16 13:05:41 <alterego> "dramatic flights"?
May 16 13:05:49 <alterego> Nothing _too_ dramatic I hope.
May 16 13:06:08 <lcuk> he left his stylus in hold luggage!
May 16 13:06:09 <Stskeeps|holiday> alterego: chicago was fucking scary to land in. raining sideways.
May 16 13:06:15 <alterego> Hahah
May 16 13:06:23 <alterego> Oh, nasty
May 16 13:06:30 <alterego> You should have gone straight to SF :P
May 16 13:06:47 <lcuk> Stskeeps|holiday, DawnFoster will shout at you for swearing!  but I think that is valid in your case, sounds rough
May 16 13:06:49 <Stskeeps|holiday> on next fight to sfo we were delayed an hour because the screens in cockpit didnt work
May 16 13:06:50 <alterego> Everyone knows Chicago is "The Windy City" (Expect Turbulance) ^.^
May 16 13:07:24 <DawnFoster> :)
May 16 13:07:29 <Stskeeps|holiday> and they fixed it by 'rebooting a program card that had gotten locked up'
May 16 13:07:41 <alterego> Wow, was that during flight? :D
May 16 13:07:59 <Stskeeps|holiday> and being a computer scientist, fixing lockups by reboot usually is a temporary solution
May 16 13:07:59 <lcuk> did they use the sanity or acceptance image of MeeGo Flight UX?
May 16 13:08:30 <alterego> Heh
May 16 13:08:49 <Stskeeps|holiday> on top of that, we were delayed due to another plane emergency landing :P
May 16 13:09:04 <Stskeeps|holiday> so yeah, dramatic
May 16 13:09:09 * lcuk ponders sailing instead
May 16 13:11:03 <mihero> not sure if it would be any less dramatic trip if going back first take bus to new york and then by ship to europe:)
May 16 13:12:09 <alterego> I think taking a boat would be far more dramatic ..
May 16 13:12:40 <alterego> Stskeeps|holiday: you should have done a video blog "WE'RE AT 10 THOUSAND FEET, THE F'ING FLIGHT COMPUTER HAS CRASHED, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DIE".
May 16 13:12:50 <alterego> "It turned out okay, they just turned it off and on again"
May 16 13:13:05 <Stskeeps|holiday> alterego: this was before takeoff, :P but still
May 16 13:13:08 <alterego> "omfg, chicago is really windy!" :D
May 16 13:13:15 <alterego> :)
May 16 13:13:28 <alterego> I might do a video blog.
May 16 13:13:30 <mihero> heh, it is always a good advice "have you tried turning it on and off"
May 16 13:13:36 <alterego> I'll have 10 hours with nothing but myself for company.
May 16 13:13:47 <alterego> mihero: you mean "off and on" :P
May 16 13:14:00 <lcuk> whenever I fly, I have myself and my thoughts and liqbase to note them down on.
May 16 13:14:31 <alterego> * lcuk writes "Oh know, I think we're going to die ... Oh, maybe I should make this icon purple"
May 16 13:14:36 <alterego> s/know/no/
May 16 13:14:36 <infobot> alterego meant: * lcuk writes "Oh no, I think we're going to die ... Oh, maybe I should make this icon purple"
May 16 13:15:13 <lcuk> no, I have thankfully had good stable flights :)
May 16 13:15:53 <alterego> Yay, latest sanity seems to be booting okay now I've rewrote the image :)
May 16 13:16:03 * alterego wonders where the sammich he ordered is.
May 16 13:16:33 <mihero> so you are ready to fly:)
May 16 13:17:12 <alterego> Interesting, one of my N900s tilts more than the other.
May 16 13:22:38 <lcuk> alterego, purple icons would not bother me
May 16 13:23:08 <lcuk> but it is common to notice and note down bugs as they are encountered
May 16 13:24:18 <alterego> Yeah, I do the same :P
May 16 13:24:22 <alterego> Though I use conboy
May 16 13:44:36 <albanc> Do you know where are the RPMs for intaller for Trunk? On build.meego.com I can see them on "MeeGo:1.2:oss > installer" but no Trunk.
May 16 13:49:01 <Stskeeps|holiday> albanc: was removed i think
May 16 13:49:33 <albanc> Stskeeps|holiday, replaced by something else?
May 16 13:50:11 <Stskeeps|holiday> albanc: they will do something re image installation in 1.3
May 16 14:43:22 <sp3000> timeless_w7ip: could happen
May 16 14:47:46 <saidinesh5> pohly: ping
May 16 14:48:04 <pohly> saidinesh5: pong
May 16 14:48:24 <saidinesh5> phew , finally done with my university .... so i guess i have around a month or 2 for syncevo.......
May 16 14:48:31 <saidinesh5> anywyas firstly it doesnt compile
May 16 14:48:40 <saidinesh5> the trunk
May 16 14:49:00 <pohly> Which problem do you see?
May 16 14:49:19 <saidinesh5> configure.in:1396: required file `src/dbus/glib/Makefile.in'
May 16 14:49:34 <saidinesh5> and that file is missing
May 16 14:49:58 <pohly> It should be generated from Makefile.am in that same directory.
May 16 14:50:06 <pohly> When you run autogen.sh.
May 16 14:50:50 <pohly> Typically automake rules will update files after a git update, but that directory is new; perhaps it doesn't work in that case.
May 16 14:51:05 <saidinesh5> well but thats the error thrown by autogen.sh
May 16 14:51:37 <pohly> Okay, got it.
May 16 14:51:56 <pohly> Somehow Makefile.am wasn't moved together with the rest of the files. Will fix immediately.
May 16 14:52:07 <saidinesh5> :)
May 16 14:55:03 <DawnFoster> w00t_: ping - I just sent you an important email. Can you look when you get a chance?
May 16 14:55:37 <w00t_> DawnFoster: just got the email beep - I'm busy at the moment, but will look tonight/ASAP :)
May 16 14:55:46 <DawnFoster> w00t_: thanks!
May 16 14:56:13 <pohly> saidinesh5: git repo updated, thanks for reporting.
May 16 14:56:27 <saidinesh5> :)
May 16 15:04:49 <saidinesh5> another error....... i remember this was even in the qt-dbus branch
May 16 15:04:57 <saidinesh5> ../../syncevolution/src/backends/evolution/EvolutionMemoSource.h:24:37: fatal error: EvolutionCalendarSource.h: No such file or directory
May 16 15:05:07 <saidinesh5> looking into this..........
May 16 15:12:28 <CosmoHill> hey DawnFoster
May 16 15:19:32 <lcuk> CosmoHill, good afternoon
May 16 15:19:38 <CosmoHill> hey lcuk
May 16 15:23:19 <gabrbedd> lcuk: \o.
May 16 15:23:28 <gabrbedd> CosmoHill: ,o/
May 16 15:23:35 <CosmoHill> gabrbedd: \o/
May 16 15:23:58 * CosmoHill sits down at his desktop and wonders where the keyboard has gone
May 16 15:24:46 <berndhs> been virtualized ?
May 16 15:25:03 * CosmoHill goes to do something mildly producting instead of procrastinating
May 16 15:25:15 <CosmoHill> the keyboard was behind my chair
May 16 15:28:11 <mikeleib> maliit FTW
May 16 15:33:16 <CosmoHill> if anyone is interesting I'm going to do a build of cross-lfs in a moment
May 16 15:33:16 * lcuk checks gluon
May 16 15:34:16 <berndhs> what is that ? cross-lfs ?
May 16 15:34:21 <CosmoHill> www.cross-lfs.org
May 16 15:34:37 <CosmoHill> it's a book that tells you how to build a basic linux system from the source packages
May 16 15:34:59 <berndhs> ah
May 16 15:35:05 <CosmoHill> with the aim of teaching you how the packages work together and cross compilation
May 16 15:35:19 <berndhs> I have 1/3 of a laptop not doing anything, I sohuld put one there
May 16 15:35:39 <berndhs> and mess with the touch-pad driver
May 16 15:36:48 <CosmoHill> I'm just installing the require stuff on my host
May 16 15:38:09 <lcuk> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/CoolStuff#Gluon
May 16 15:42:52 <CosmoHill> berndhs: if you want to do CLFS feel free to, I should be doing the same packages about the same time so it should be easier to provide you with help if you need it
May 16 15:43:32 <berndhs> i'm checking it now
May 16 15:56:04 <berndhs> CosmoHill: my gcc and glibc versions are really new, I expect trouble with that :)
May 16 15:56:20 <CosmoHill> I hope not
May 16 15:56:28 <CosmoHill> I'm still getting the sources
May 16 16:00:33 <lcuk> djit seems gluon is not built for armv7nhl
May 16 16:01:11 <lcuk> http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sandst1/standard/
May 16 16:01:30 <lcuk> sandst1, could you see if you could add the armv7nhl flags onto the gluon packages
May 16 16:02:19 <lcuk> djszapi, ^^
May 16 16:02:20 <lcuk> <lcuk> djit seems gluon is not built for armv7nhl
May 16 16:02:20 <lcuk> <lcuk> http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sandst1/standard/
May 16 16:02:20 <lcuk> <lcuk> sandst1, could you see if you could add the armv7nhl flags onto the gluon packages
May 16 16:02:48 <djszapi> lcuk: I already asked sandst1 ;)
May 16 16:06:17 <lcuk> lbt, from that repository do you know how the armv7nhl obs would be configured?
May 16 16:06:26 <lcuk> or any other OBS type people hanging around?
May 16 16:12:30 <djszapi> lcuk: btw, OBS will be renamed to Open Build System ?
May 16 16:12:50 <djszapi> * Service
May 16 16:13:47 <lcuk> djszapi, ?
May 16 16:14:16 <lcuk> opensuse build service is its name, why change it?
May 16 16:14:24 <djszapi> to avoid the belief, it is OpenSuse specific, that is what I heard at the ubuntu meeting from a guy :)
May 16 16:14:51 <sp3000> timeless_w7ip: speaking of things that resemble lunch
May 16 16:15:30 <gabrbedd> djszapi: lcuk  Kinda like The Redhat Package Manager ==> The RPM Package Manager
May 16 16:16:42 <gabrbedd> Rule of thumb:  quit naming software after the distro.
May 16 16:18:33 <npm> gabrbedd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowdog_Updater,_Modified == yum, from yellowdog linux
May 16 16:18:54 <toninikkanen> or naming apps after the programming framework that was used for creating them... grh
May 16 16:20:23 <lcuk> gabrbedd, so how should people name their software?
May 16 16:20:28 <thiago> or just give it a generic name, like the "Yet Another Compiler" Compiler
May 16 16:20:36 * lcuk bets gabrbedd_app exists :P
May 16 16:20:37 <gabrbedd> toninikkanen: +1  (Although filtering out K* and G* programs to use Q* programs has become a habit...)
May 16 16:20:43 <npm> all programs must begin with a q, or have a k in them.
May 16 16:20:58 * lcuk uses liq*
May 16 16:21:13 <thiago> gabrbedd: just be careful that there are some k* where the k stands for Kernel
May 16 16:21:18 <lcuk> or more recently my*
May 16 16:21:29 <thiago> every now and then someone pops in #kde asking why kworker/1:0 is taking so much CPU time
May 16 16:21:48 <ali1234> hmm... why *is* kworker taking so much cpu time btw?
May 16 16:21:57 <thiago> hi2k
May 16 16:22:01 <ali1234> every time i try to write a meego image to usb disk
May 16 16:22:01 <gabrbedd> thiago: haha, true
May 16 16:22:16 <thiago> happens to me whenever I plug any USB after resuming from suspend
May 16 16:22:16 <ali1234> kworker uses 200% CPU and system freezes up until copy finishes
May 16 16:22:24 <thiago> if I resume with the USB plugged in, it works
May 16 16:22:38 <ali1234> this only started happening in recent kernels :/
May 16 16:22:45 <gabrbedd> lcuk: no there's no gabe_app, I usually start with a generic name ("midi-keyboard") until I get serious about it.  Then I give it a real name (like "Ivory")
May 16 16:22:45 <thiago> same for me
May 16 16:24:19 <gabrbedd> lcuk: “There are only two hard problems in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things.” — Phil Karlton
May 16 16:25:00 <sp3000> yeah it's the part of installing an os on a new box that takes the most time
May 16 16:25:05 * w00t_ still remembers the naming session on #qt-labs a few months ago
May 16 16:25:11 <w00t_> thiago: ^ :-)
May 16 16:25:27 <thiago> oh god...
May 16 16:25:28 <w00t_> DawnFoster: replied btw
May 16 16:25:39 <thiago> what were we discussing?
May 16 16:25:47 <w00t_> want me to dig up the log? :P
May 16 16:25:50 <w00t_> always good for a laugh
May 16 16:25:54 <thiago> yeah
May 16 16:26:30 <gabrbedd> lcuk: But I would say that naming a software package (app, library, whatever) after the OS has been proven time and time again to be a big mistake.
May 16 16:26:35 * w00t_ goes to find it
May 16 16:27:34 <sp3000> gabrbedd: but it can only turn out to be a big mistake if it becomes popular ...so at that point clearly the name served it well ;)
May 16 16:28:39 <w00t_> thiago: found it, pastebinning
May 16 16:29:18 <w00t_> we really need a QAbstractDynamicMeeGoGraphicsSystemControllerInterfaceListenerProxyFactorySingleton for Qt 5
May 16 16:29:42 <lcuk> gabrbedd, it will always happen
May 16 16:29:43 <w00t_> http://w00t.dereferenced.net/p/t/pastebin20110516-7230-7o09fd-0.txt
May 16 16:29:46 <w00t_> thiago: ^^
May 16 16:29:55 <thiago> btw, the stats haven't updated in a month and a half
May 16 16:30:18 <w00t_> thiago: I'll poke them
May 16 16:30:58 <w00t_> run them manually for the time being
May 16 16:31:07 <w00t_> I'll try figure out why it isn't working automatically, I thought I fixed that
May 16 16:31:30 <lcuk> w00t_, that is an awesome class name
May 16 16:31:52 <thiago>  229000 16:07 <#qt-labs/w00t> can you fit any more design patterns into that name?
May 16 16:31:55 <thiago>  229001 16:07 <#qt-labs/+thiago> I'm trying to
May 16 16:31:57 <thiago> :-)
May 16 16:32:00 <w00t_> lcuk: take a look at the log, it was a great conversation
May 16 16:32:22 <w00t_>  229024 16:09  * #qt-labs/TZander notes that people looking at this backlog and then looking at classes in Qt like QAbstractDocumentLayout w        ill likely get the wrong impression on how we name stuff...
May 16 16:32:27 <w00t_> that was my favorite bit
May 16 16:32:29 <w00t_> :P
May 16 16:32:51 <w00t_> qt_showYellowThing ftw, too
May 16 16:33:41 <gabrbedd> sp3000: lcuk: True.  IMHO, name changes are always painful.  Avoiding one well-known goof (naming after the distro) shouldn't be that hard. :-)
May 16 16:33:53 <thiago> it got recently renamed to QWidgetBackingStore::showYellowThing
May 16 16:34:29 <w00t_> it's not very extensible
May 16 16:34:31 <gabrbedd> QAbstractDynamicGraphicsSystemControllerInterfaceListenerProxyFactorySingleton
May 16 16:34:33 <gabrbedd> lol
May 16 16:34:39 <w00t_> we really need showThig(QColor)
May 16 16:34:45 <w00t_> Thing rather
May 16 16:34:50 <alterego> Heh
May 16 16:35:02 <thiago> w00t_: then I'll need to update my "Hidden gems" blog about the environment variable that lets you choose the colour
May 16 16:35:17 <w00t_> thiago: stats finished
May 16 16:35:44 <w00t_> "killList << QFileSystemWatcher"
May 16 16:35:45 <w00t_> hahaha
May 16 16:36:41 <thiago> w00t_: you need more activity in the 6-11 time period
May 16 16:37:05 <w00t_> yeah, I'm not #2 in all timeslots!
May 16 16:37:24 <w00t_> I think that goes to show that I am not an early riser
May 16 16:40:16 <w00t_> thiago talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 249 times!
May 16 16:40:17 <w00t_> :-P
May 16 17:07:49 <lcuk> hmm bug 17524
May 16 17:07:52 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17524 nor, Undecided, ---, james.ausmus, RESO INVALID, [N900 DE] Peregrine QML UI does not have "Pan to desktop"
May 16 17:12:38 <gabrbedd> lcuk: So where is peregrine coming from?
May 16 17:12:57 <lcuk> well it has been added to -de image
May 16 17:13:09 <lcuk> I had forgotten it was not on the default meego build
May 16 17:13:47 <gabrbedd> so, where are DE bugs being filed?
May 16 17:15:38 <lcuk> gabrbedd, that is now what I am pondering
May 16 17:21:11 <gabrbedd> lcuk: well, it was assigned to james @intel... and I don't know if he's active in the DE effort.  I would probably ping one of those guys about it.  Probably reopen the bug and find some way to get it assigned to the DE team.
May 16 17:24:29 <lcuk> w00t_, when are you flying out to sf? and it is MCR->AMS->SF?
May 16 17:24:56 <lcuk> http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Flight_Information
May 16 17:25:17 <w00t_> friday night: back to MAN, saturday morning: MAN -> AMS -> SFO yeah
May 16 17:25:27 <w00t_> I'll add myself
May 16 17:25:34 <lcuk> \o
May 16 17:26:34 <w00t_> assuming the hotel's internet ever loads it
May 16 17:27:24 <lcuk> http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-chat
May 16 17:27:35 <lcuk> ahh gabrbedd the meego handset chat app ^
May 16 17:27:45 <lbt> is there a fremantle schedule viewer?
May 16 17:27:56 <lcuk> ? lbt
May 16 17:28:12 <lbt> meego summit.fi had a neat little app
May 16 17:28:17 <lcuk> w00t_, wrong link page
May 16 17:28:19 <lcuk> did not notice
May 16 17:28:22 <lcuk> that is old conf
May 16 17:28:35 <lbt> I expected it to be reused for SF - seen no mention of it?
May 16 17:29:14 <gabrbedd> lcuk: That's what uses peregrin?
May 16 17:29:23 <lcuk> w00t_, http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/Flight_Information
May 16 17:29:35 <w00t_> lcuk: yeah, i noticed just before you mentioned
May 16 17:29:46 <lcuk> gabrbedd, the n900-de has it installed
May 16 18:02:23 <saidinesh5> pohly: does syncevo compile ?? i seem to be getting a lot of autotools related compilation issues :-/
May 16 18:03:25 <pohly> saidinesh5: it's not entirely broken, but I am not entirely done with nightly build checks.
May 16 18:03:34 <pohly> Which problems do you see?
May 16 18:03:59 <treitter> what's the current equivalent of the Trunk:Extra repo?
May 16 18:04:56 <treitter> that's still in use, right?
May 16 18:05:06 * CosmoHill wonders if he should be able to crash RHEL this easy
May 16 18:05:48 <saidinesh5> just a sec pohly pastebining
May 16 18:09:03 <saidinesh5> pohly: ../../syncevolution/src/backends/evolution/EvolutionMemoSource.h:24:37: fatal error: EvolutionCalendarSource.h: No such file or directory
May 16 18:09:03 <saidinesh5>  basically this is what is coming up
May 16 18:09:26 <saidinesh5> even though 1) i haven't enabled the ecal
May 16 18:09:35 <saidinesh5> 2) that file exists where it had to
May 16 18:10:22 <pohly> Okay, that's one things that I have seen. I'm currently testing a fix, which is not yet in git.
May 16 18:10:54 <pohly> Try #include "EvolutionCalendarSource.h" (quotation marks) instead of #include <EvolutionCalendarSource.h>.
May 16 18:11:43 <saidinesh5> if i try to hide the issue with
May 16 18:11:45 <saidinesh5> http://pastebin.ca/2061736
May 16 18:11:54 <saidinesh5> then i get a different error
May 16 18:12:45 <lcuk> CosmoHill, what are you managing to crash?
May 16 18:12:54 <lcuk> and have you got yourself a meego device to play on yet?
May 16 18:13:06 <CosmoHill> pretty much the whole dekstop UI
May 16 18:13:08 <saidinesh5> just a sec
May 16 18:13:10 <saidinesh5> getting there
May 16 18:13:31 <CosmoHill> lcuk: no not yet, if there is a PCI-E or PCI intel graphics card then I will do
May 16 18:14:02 <lcuk> CosmoHill, it makes most sense on a touchscreen device anyway
May 16 18:14:14 <lcuk> trying to draw using the mouse is a bit wibbly
May 16 18:14:17 <mikhas> *multi-touch touchscreen device
May 16 18:14:21 <CosmoHill> I typed make -j7 and then things started to disapear
May 16 18:14:32 <lcuk> mikhas, multitouch is overrated :P
May 16 18:14:41 <CosmoHill> okay my graphics  card has thrown up a rainbow
May 16 18:14:43 * lcuk draws hair on peoples heads
May 16 18:14:48 <lcuk> and makes liqflow zoom along
May 16 18:15:03 <lcuk> CosmoHill, eep
May 16 18:15:43 <gabrbedd> CosmoHill: I think -j7 is an easter egg for "Core Meltdown"
May 16 18:17:38 <saidinesh5> http://pastebin.ca/2061738 pohly
May 16 18:20:34 <CosmoHill> lcuk: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/pc-rainbow-screen.jpg
May 16 18:21:07 <treitter> how can I look up which package provides a given file?
May 16 18:21:22 <arfoll> does anyone know if there is an pinetrail image with wayland or what repo is best to use?
May 16 18:21:36 <gabrbedd> treitter: rpm -qf /path/to/file
May 16 18:21:56 <mikhas> treitter, well, not sure whether we have the equivalent of apt-file, but rpm -ql <package-name> gives you the files provided by a package
May 16 18:22:08 <mikhas> then, by iterating over the list of all installed packages ... you get the idea ;-)
May 16 18:22:25 <treitter> oh, sorry - I meant for uninstalled packages
May 16 18:22:38 <treitter> gabrbedd: ^
May 16 18:23:33 <lcuk> CosmoHill, make that animated and it would be awesome
May 16 18:24:41 <gabrbedd> treitter: short answer you can't.
May 16 18:25:21 <treitter> gabrbedd: :/, thanks
May 16 18:26:05 <gabrbedd> treitter: Long answer... you have to manually parse the cached repository data (repodata/filelists.xml.gz)
May 16 18:27:31 <lcuk> treitter, how about trying human powered grep -> ask in here if people know the specific file you are seeking!
May 16 18:27:54 <treitter> to start with, gnome-autogen.sh
May 16 18:27:57 <gabrbedd> treitter: so maybe something like this will get you there... zcat /path/to/cache/filelists.xml.gz | xmllint --format - | awk '/fileiwant/ { do_something }'
May 16 18:28:13 <treitter> I guess I can use Debian's package-for-filename search and then try to translate the package names
May 16 18:28:21 <CosmoHill> yep my graphics have gone nuts
May 16 18:28:34 <CosmoHill> everything has moved 3" to the right and wrapped around
May 16 18:28:36 <lcuk> > hoping I could build guile-gtk from cvs again.  *Is* there a package
May 16 18:28:36 <lcuk> > that contains gnome-autogen.sh, or do I have to install something from
May 16 18:28:36 <lcuk> > source.  If source what is it and where is it?
May 16 18:28:36 <lcuk> You need to get gnome-common module from GNOME CVS
May 16 18:28:42 <lcuk> http://sourceware.org/ml/guile-gtk/2001-q2/msg00060.html
May 16 18:28:44 <lcuk> treitter, helpful?
May 16 18:28:45 <CosmoHill> so the far right is actually on the left of the monitor
May 16 18:29:00 <gabrbedd> CosmoHill: Pretty!
May 16 18:29:19 <treitter> lcuk: yup, thanks
May 16 18:31:05 <lcuk> do we have a bug for the charging indicator light on n900?
May 16 18:39:28 <Wolli> hey, is it possible to add more touch-buttons to xterm?
May 16 18:47:40 <mikhas> Wolli, ?
May 16 18:48:55 <mikhas> plan is to soon have a proper terminal application for MeeGo, with virtual keyboard support and a toolbar with extra functionality (think N900 terminal app, perhaps), see bug 16963
May 16 18:48:57 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16963 maj, High, 1.2, michael, NEW, N900 "Sym" key does not invoke VKB symbol view.
May 16 18:49:58 <mikhas> (if you have votes left, above bug might be good investment ;-)
May 16 18:55:52 <lbt> DawnFoster: ping
May 16 18:59:30 <fiferboy> Hi lbt
May 16 18:59:36 <lbt> hey fiferboy
May 16 19:00:09 <fiferboy> lbt: Is there some way I can get a MeeGo application into a public repository?
May 16 19:00:20 <fiferboy> ie not my PPA
May 16 19:00:41 <lbt> yes... apps
May 16 19:01:01 <lbt> what's it called?
May 16 19:01:13 <mikhas> "MeeGo App" - because we only have one
May 16 19:01:18 <mikhas> ;-)
May 16 19:01:39 <lbt> mikhas: this'll make 2...
May 16 19:01:46 <lbt> we need to go plural! \o/
May 16 19:01:58 <mikhas> progress!
May 16 19:02:08 <fiferboy> My app is a dictionary app called "Personal Lexicon"
May 16 19:02:14 * lbt updates the registration db
May 16 19:02:43 <mikhas> dictionary, as in: translations?
May 16 19:02:54 <lbt> current MeeGo Apps DB :   http://pastie.org/1912154
May 16 19:03:01 <lbt> (for real ;) )
May 16 19:03:09 <fiferboy> mikhas: No, think much more simplistic :)
May 16 19:03:38 <fiferboy> lbt: How do I get an app in there?
May 16 19:04:11 <lbt> ask me
May 16 19:04:29 <lbt> it's rather beta ... as I hope you can tell
May 16 19:04:34 <lbt> so ... what's the shortname
May 16 19:05:04 <fiferboy> I think personal-lexicon
May 16 19:05:10 <lbt> and is it in home:fiferboy
May 16 19:05:15 <Myrtti> is anyone else planning to go to MakerFaire on the weekend?
May 16 19:05:36 <lcuk> lbt, Venemo has a great simple qt app to include in there
May 16 19:05:40 <fiferboy> lbt: Yep
May 16 19:05:53 <lbt> lcuk: ?
May 16 19:05:55 * lcuk beieves he created the word lexicolon
May 16 19:06:04 <lcuk> lbt, the meego apps db
May 16 19:06:08 <lcuk> his app is on the ITP
May 16 19:06:17 <lcuk> but he has not done the obs side I do not think
May 16 19:06:30 <lcuk> I built it on my ideapad and it runs happily
May 16 19:06:47 <lbt> lcuk: yeah, what's it called and where does it live
May 16 19:06:47 <Venemo> no, I haven't got the time to research the OBS yet. lcuk gave me a link, but I rather study for tomorrow's exam at the moment :)
May 16 19:06:51 <lbt> see pastie
May 16 19:07:30 <lbt> so ok fiferboy, go to #meego-boss
May 16 19:07:53 <lbt> and then issue an SR to copy your app to MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing
May 16 19:08:00 <mikhas> lcuk, I wish I had realized that earlier: compiling on the ideapad is acceptable, and thus it's the best development for MeeGo Tablet UX
May 16 19:08:09 <mikhas> *development device
May 16 19:08:17 <lcuk> lbt, http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Community_Builder/ITP#P
May 16 19:08:29 <lcuk> mikhas, I have compiled on device since the n810
May 16 19:08:46 <lbt> lcuk ah
May 16 19:08:47 <fiferboy> lbt: Is there instruction on issuing an SR?
May 16 19:08:56 <lbt> :(
May 16 19:09:55 <lbt> osc sr -m"Ready for Apps:Testing" home:fiferboy personal-lexicon MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing
May 16 19:10:46 <mikhas> lcuk, with C++?
May 16 19:10:51 <mikhas> I doubt that is bearable ...
May 16 19:11:25 <fiferboy> lbt: Ah, you mean issue it locally and watch meego-boss for output?
May 16 19:11:33 <lbt> *g*
May 16 19:12:13 <fiferboy> I did all my building on the web, have to run around and install osc
May 16 19:12:21 <lbt> mmm
May 16 19:12:23 <fiferboy> lbt: No way to issue it from the web interface?
May 16 19:12:28 <phaeron> you can submit from webui as well
May 16 19:12:35 <lbt> yep
May 16 19:12:46 <lbt> and phaeron will now train you ...
May 16 19:13:03 <phaeron> it's a couple of clicks :)
May 16 19:13:18 <lbt> you've not met fiferboy.... ;)
May 16 19:13:24 <fiferboy> phaeron: Excellent
May 16 19:13:38 * mikhas signs up for free training lesson, too
May 16 19:13:58 <lbt> we are having an OBS session on saturday pm at the conf
May 16 19:14:07 <lbt> X-Fade: will be giving that
May 16 19:14:10 <fiferboy> Ah, under package do a "Submit Package" action?
May 16 19:14:18 <fiferboy> lbt: I can't make that session :(
May 16 19:14:36 <phaeron> fiferboy: yes actions --> submit package
May 16 19:14:40 <phaeron> lbt: btw https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/523
May 16 19:15:05 <fiferboy> phaeron: "and with this package do: Update this package"?
May 16 19:15:36 <phaeron> I usually choose "don't touch this package"
May 16 19:16:12 <fiferboy> Very simple.  There it goes
May 16 19:16:30 <lbt> see
May 16 19:16:41 <lbt> see #meego-boss process it?
May 16 19:16:59 <fiferboy> lbt: Yep
May 16 19:17:19 <fiferboy> Now in the webui I see "Request #526" do I have to fill something out there?
May 16 19:17:31 <fiferboy> I guess that is something to do with acceptance?
May 16 19:17:45 <lbt> and now... https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=MeeGo:1.2:Apps:Testing
May 16 19:18:14 <fiferboy> lbt: Sweet! Three packages
May 16 19:18:33 <lbt> no meaningful checks yet
May 16 19:18:42 <phaeron> when in doubt , make coffee :D
May 16 19:18:46 <lbt> but it's a proper process
May 16 19:18:55 <lbt> auto-accepted
May 16 19:19:19 <fiferboy> Excellent.  I will now sing the praises of OBS
May 16 19:19:23 <lbt> will be based on having built in your home, you having commit rights and other sensible things
May 16 19:19:31 <lbt> ah, that was BOSS ;)
May 16 19:19:54 <fiferboy> I will now sing the praises of OBS and BOSS
May 16 19:20:03 <lbt> \o/
May 16 19:25:01 <lbt> phaeron: did you take the get_relevant_changelog.py from my home on the boss VM ?
May 16 19:25:32 <phaeron> lbt: no , I thought you pushed that stuff,
May 16 19:25:42 <lbt> I'll check
May 16 19:27:01 <fiferboy> Looks like the armv8el build is having trouble with the build system
May 16 19:27:14 <phaeron> last I remember was the @ ruby no perl no python fix
May 16 19:27:31 <lbt> I did
May 16 19:29:13 <lbt> phaeron: we should think about abstracting the setup_obs() out too
May 16 19:29:27 <lbt> some Exo/OBS class
May 16 19:29:40 <lbt> which extends buildservice
May 16 19:29:44 <lbt> fiferboy: looking
May 16 19:29:54 <phaeron> lbt: enough abstractions and rewrites please !
May 16 19:30:05 <lbt> not yet
May 16 19:30:10 <lbt> it's only monday
May 16 19:30:22 <phaeron> we have a host of unported participants
May 16 19:30:40 <lbt> http://pastie.org/1912330
May 16 19:31:42 <phaeron> and a load of unwritten ones
May 16 19:32:16 <phaeron> lbt: what's the qemu version you have
May 16 19:32:47 <lbt> qemu-0.14.0_rc1-1.4.2.x86_64
May 16 19:32:57 <lbt> opensuse 11.4
May 16 19:33:06 <phaeron> there's 0.14 in devel:virtualization
May 16 19:34:15 <lbt> mmm lots of OS upgrades too - including kernel
May 16 19:36:14 <fiferboy> lbt: So now I can add the Apps:Testing repo to my MeeGo installs and get those applications
May 16 19:36:45 <lbt> yes
May 16 19:37:54 <fiferboy> Is there eventaully going to be a process to move tested applications to a repo that can be enabled by vendors out-of-the-box?
May 16 19:38:20 <lbt> yes ... that's the start of it
May 16 19:39:02 <DawnFoster> lbt: missed your ping earlier, but I'm around now
May 16 19:42:06 <lbt> DawnFoster: I missed Mike in the IT room - he's planning an outage for meego.com ... can you have a word about announcing it
May 16 19:42:56 <DawnFoster> lbt: I'll try to ping him - he probably stepped away from his computer for lunch
May 16 19:45:23 <lbt> ta
May 16 19:45:42 <lbt> phaeron: OK - I upgraded the worker OS - rebooting to new kernel
May 16 19:46:16 <phaeron> lbt: and qemu ?
May 16 19:46:33 <lbt> wasn't in the zypper up
May 16 19:46:37 <lbt> 1 thing at a time :)
May 16 19:47:10 <lbt> then... lets look at the Apps BOSS process
May 16 19:47:20 <lbt> which is actually quite interesting
May 16 19:48:12 <fiferboy> lbt: Build looks good now
May 16 19:49:25 <lbt> fiferboy: sadly it's because I rebooted the 'new' worker and dropped it to an old one
May 16 19:49:57 <fiferboy> lbt: Ah, I thought you magically made things better by upgrading
May 16 19:51:10 <lbt> no :(
May 16 19:51:24 <lbt> phaeron ... so it's crashing on the mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/hda1 /root
May 16 19:51:34 <lbt> qemu.. mount... rings a bell
May 16 19:52:11 <phaeron> you need mount-static ?
May 16 19:52:48 <lbt> grrr
May 16 19:53:10 <phaeron> could be the problem
May 16 19:53:36 <lbt> where is that from ?
May 16 19:53:39 <lbt> not in the normal repos
May 16 19:55:06 <phaeron> zypper wp ?
May 16 19:56:09 <lbt> they are rpm in their own riht
May 16 19:56:15 <lbt> not sure what repo
May 16 19:56:59 <phaeron> does zypper whatprovides say anything ?
May 16 19:57:10 <lbt> sgs2
May 16 19:58:04 <lbt> I thought this was google ;)
May 16 19:58:30 <phaeron> you're just feeling lucky
May 16 19:59:47 <luist> where do i get Qt 4.7 for meego netbook?
May 16 20:01:16 <gabrbedd> luist: It's already on there.  Can you be more specific?
May 16 20:02:04 <luist> what repository
May 16 20:02:15 <luist> couldnt find on core/releases or netbook
May 16 20:02:26 <phaeron> lbt: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=mount-static&project=openSUSE%3ATools
May 16 20:02:39 <gabrbedd> luist: repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/
May 16 20:02:55 <lbt> phaeron: needs to go in our worker install process
May 16 20:03:02 <gabrbedd> luist: You want the source?  It's in a source/ repos.
May 16 20:03:16 <phaeron> lbt: we're not sure yet it is actually the problem
May 16 20:03:24 <lbt> 99.9%
May 16 20:03:30 <luist> gabrbedd: just the rpms
May 16 20:03:34 <phaeron> it should be a dep of obs-worker
May 16 20:05:00 <gabrbedd> luist: That'll be in the ia32/packages repos
May 16 20:07:20 <fiferboy> lbt, phaeron: Thanks for the help :)
May 16 20:07:37 <phaeron> any time
May 16 20:07:52 <lbt> phaeron: yay ... that was it
May 16 20:07:55 <lbt> fiferboy: :)
May 16 20:08:16 <phaeron> armv8 on that worker works now ?
May 16 20:08:19 <lbt> fiferboy - you are going to SF now aren't you?
May 16 20:08:21 <lbt> yes
May 16 20:08:26 <fiferboy> Hopefully the OBS session on Saturday is well attended
May 16 20:08:33 <luist> gabrbedd: cant it there… theres no qt package
May 16 20:08:34 <fiferboy> lbt: Yes, I get there Sunday midday
May 16 20:08:38 <lbt> pubworker03 started "build meego-handset-dialer.spec"... Building meego-handset-dialer for project  'home:tswindell:branches:MeeGo.com:Trunk' repository 'DE_Trunk' arch  'armv8el' srcmd5 'bc174ce25b70f0ab57737f7dd93faaf1'
May 16 20:08:46 <lbt> fiferboy: OK
May 16 20:08:59 <phaeron> cool
May 16 20:09:04 <fiferboy> lbt: There is ice cream in San Fran, right?
May 16 20:09:22 <lbt> fiferboy: *g*
May 16 20:10:31 <gabrbedd> luist: the "qt" source package generates several packages with names like "libqt-qtcore" or something like that.  So no, there's no binary package called "qt"
May 16 20:26:44 * CosmoHill pokes dazo_afk 
May 16 20:30:35 * lcuk lobs a qt installer script @ CosmoHill 
May 16 20:30:50 <lcuk> CosmoHill, if I write a qt app, which of your systems would it be installable on?
May 16 20:30:53 * CosmoHill tries to remember if he has Qt on his mac
May 16 20:31:06 <CosmoHill> I got Qt on Win7
May 16 20:44:07 <ieatlint> lbt: i should be at that OBS workshop on saturday
May 16 20:44:15 <ieatlint> will look forward to it :)
May 16 20:51:05 <gabrbedd> ieatlint: When you go to San Francisco, be sure to wear flowers in your hair.
May 16 20:51:58 <ieatlint> i live in san francisco
May 16 20:52:05 <ieatlint> and i assure you, there are already flowers in my hair
May 16 20:53:54 <gabrbedd> ieatlint: :-)
May 16 20:54:05 <gabrbedd> ieatlint: figures I'd use that on the wrong person....
May 16 20:54:10 <gabrbedd> :-)
May 16 20:54:27 <ieatlint> :)
May 16 20:55:06 <gabrbedd> Hey lbt:  when you go to San Francisco....
May 16 20:55:59 <ieatlint> remember, don't be a tease and let that guy at the bar fruitlessly buy you drinks
May 16 20:56:23 <gabrbedd> lol
May 16 20:56:28 * gabrbedd wasn't going to go there.
May 16 20:56:29 <lbt> *g*
May 16 20:56:37 <lbt> gabrbedd: fly out friday
May 16 20:56:52 <lbt> now we're hunting Tango places...
May 16 20:57:03 <lbt> ieatlint ... know any?
May 16 20:57:08 <gabrbedd> lbt: are you really?  that's cool!
May 16 20:57:26 <lbt> gabrbedd: heh.... which bit ... Friday or Tango?
May 16 20:57:35 <gabrbedd> lbt: both
May 16 20:57:45 * gabrbedd will be there Sun AM
May 16 20:57:51 <lbt> aw
May 16 20:58:06 <lbt> you miss the construction event
May 16 20:58:16 <lbt> that was so much fun in Dublin
May 16 20:58:27 <ieatlint> tango as in the dance?
May 16 20:58:35 <lbt> yup
May 16 20:59:38 <ieatlint> I'm afraid not, neither does gf.. we both recommend looking on yelp.com
May 16 20:59:41 <ieatlint> http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=tango&ns=1&find_loc=san+francisco%2C+ca
May 16 21:00:06 <ieatlint> yelp is the best resource for finding any bar/restaurant/social activity in the city
May 16 21:00:33 <ieatlint> many of the results there are likely for dance studios/classes
May 16 21:01:03 * lbt digs about
May 16 21:02:15 <gabrbedd> lbt: Is Mrs. lbt coming, or are you going to dance with Niels?
May 16 21:02:34 <lbt> that would be very continental
May 16 21:02:39 <lbt> but no, Denise is coming
May 16 21:02:48 <gabrbedd> :-)
May 16 21:03:08 <ieatlint> i've been advised that you must make sure you are looking for the right kind of tango — i'm told there's argentinian tango and just "tango"
May 16 21:03:20 * gabrbedd wishes mrs. /me was coming
May 16 21:03:37 <lbt> ieatlint: ah... to those in the know "Tango" *is* argentine
May 16 21:03:44 <mikhas> cant find a MTF/LMT component @ B.M.C
May 16 21:03:58 <mikhas> was it already removed even though we ship MeeGo 1.2 with it?
May 16 21:04:09 <lbt> gabrbedd: figured it was worth it for this one
May 16 21:04:15 <ieatlint> lbt: my gf smiles and says "ok" in a very dismissive voice
May 16 21:04:22 <ieatlint> (a voice i'm all too familiar with)
May 16 21:04:26 <gabrbedd> mikhas: did you look on under the "projects" section?
May 16 21:04:42 <lbt> ieatlint: hehe ... as our ballroom teacher would say
May 16 21:04:50 <mikhas> gabrbedd, no such thing @ https://bugs.meego.com/describecomponents.cgi
May 16 21:05:16 <mikhas> gabrbedd, found, thanks
May 16 21:05:16 <lbt> ieatlint: does she dance?
May 16 21:05:19 <chouchoune> for french people around there : registrations open for Intel App Lab in Paris on 17th of June
May 16 21:05:55 <ieatlint> afraid not, and i'm far too awkward of a geek myself
May 16 21:06:05 <lbt> nah .. no such thing
May 16 21:06:23 <lbt> but nm
May 16 21:10:43 <ieatlint> should be a good conference..
May 16 21:11:03 <ieatlint> intel is also doing a workshop on sunday that should prove interesting
May 16 21:15:15 <lbt> no ExoPCs this time ... :)
May 16 21:16:51 <ieatlint> you sure? :)
May 16 21:26:15 <lbt> ieatlint: was going to go to appup on sunday but the intel site won't let me register - claims my email is registered but won't send me an email :(
May 16 21:34:33 <ieatlint> lbt: I registered earlier today, as did a friend… not sure what the deal would be
May 16 21:36:00 <lbt> I have registered on various intel sites over the years, each needing a new registration.... I wonder if appup took an old dev account
May 16 21:49:06 <lcuk> lbt, perhaps DawnFoster will know who to ping to ask properly
May 16 21:50:06 <Jartza> whew
May 16 21:50:18 <Jartza> a few people celebrating today in finland :)
May 16 21:51:10 <lbt> lcuk: I used another email address...
May 16 21:51:33 <lbt> the people doing that site think it's clever to stop you cut'n'pasting passwords...
May 16 21:51:43 <DawnFoster> hmmm?
May 16 21:51:44 <lbt> so I have very little hope they have brains
May 16 21:52:01 <lbt> DawnFoster: oh, just registering at an Intel site
May 16 21:52:10 <lbt> "your email is in use"
May 16 21:52:27 <lbt> but then not actually managing to send a reminder to me...
May 16 21:52:37 <DawnFoster> lbt: aha, for the record, I have nothing to do with any of the Intel sites :)
May 16 21:52:51 <lbt> I didn't think you would
May 16 21:53:04 <DawnFoster> but I know the people who do
May 16 21:53:26 <lbt> since it doesn't work properly
May 16 21:53:53 <DawnFoster> :)
May 16 21:53:58 <gabrbedd> lbt: good save!
May 16 21:54:14 <DawnFoster> lbt: let me ping someone who knows about the app up registrations
May 16 21:54:36 <lbt> if you see them ... tell them that disabling cut'n'paste on a web page is not user-friendly
May 16 21:54:37 <DawnFoster> lbt: I confirmed that you are registered :)
May 16 21:54:52 <DawnFoster> was there info you needed?
May 16 21:55:32 <lbt> No, I was just moaning in case anyone was around
May 16 21:55:44 <lbt> I sent off a feedback form too
May 16 21:57:14 <DawnFoster> lbt: cool - I asked them to poke into the logs to make sure it's not a bigger issue
May 16 21:58:29 <lbt> ah, well, if it's not a faceless area then it feels much better :)
May 16 21:58:55 <lbt> so often you send in some comment and think ... "/dev/null"
May 16 22:04:13 <mikhas> will updates for MeeGo 1.2 be bugfix-only?
May 16 22:05:07 <mikhas> lbt, did you actually sign the app up agreement legalese?
May 16 22:05:33 <mikhas> I found it unparseable and could not figure out whether I actually can sign it or not ...
May 16 22:06:10 <CosmoHill> note to self: make -j7 may crash system
May 16 22:09:06 <lbt> mikhas: as with so many legal docs and frameworks,,,, but yes, I did.
May 16 22:09:24 <lbt> I was rather uncertain about AppUp at first
May 16 22:09:38 <lbt> but I think they're doing the right thing in many ways
May 16 22:10:11 <lbt> I'm meeting someone on tuesday to talk about some ideas that came up in Tampere
May 16 22:10:59 <lbt> basically to extend the c.obs to publish to AppUp
May 16 22:12:01 <mikhas> lbt, that's not an excuse - legal documents still bind you, whether you signed one shitty one or a 100 shitty ones
May 16 22:12:15 <lbt> I know... so sue me
May 16 22:12:17 <lbt> ;)
May 16 22:12:28 <mikhas> DawnFoster, please poke someone to simplify those terms for AppUp signup ...
May 16 22:13:00 <lbt> ah, my registration email arrived...
May 16 22:13:25 <lbt> so it's just the account reminder that was problematic
May 16 22:13:26 <DawnFoster> mikhas: yeah, let me again say that I work mostly on the Linux Foundation stuff :)
May 16 22:13:40 <mikhas> still, I would assume you have the contacts
May 16 22:14:24 <DawnFoster> mikhas: the people on site running the training (Brian & Kelly) run that program and are the right ones to talk to
May 16 22:14:40 <mikhas> alright
May 16 22:14:54 <mikhas> I'll crash their party then
May 16 22:14:56 <DawnFoster> mikhas: just better that they hear it from you
May 16 22:14:57 <mikhas> j/k
May 16 22:15:12 <mikhas> understood
May 16 22:15:20 <DawnFoster> you should crash their Monday night party!
May 16 22:15:29 <mikhas> ha
May 16 22:16:00 <DawnFoster> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=167040130022151
May 16 22:27:29 <lbt> DawnFoster: OK ... no clue what the best way to set out a page is... here's a draft :) http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/partners
May 16 22:28:28 <lcuk> lbt :D what a great idea
May 16 22:28:51 <ieatlint> people should also know that those planning to go to alcatraz should buy their tickets online in advance
May 16 22:29:04 <lbt> ieatlint: ooo
May 16 22:29:05 <lbt> h
May 16 22:29:08 <lbt> tips...
May 16 22:29:15 <lbt> edit the page ... please
May 16 22:29:15 <DawnFoster> I like the organization of it
May 16 22:29:22 <DawnFoster> simple, easy
May 16 22:29:24 <ieatlint> you'll save a LOT of time standing in line, and the ferries sell out routinely
May 16 22:30:50 <ieatlint> http://www.alcatrazcruises.com/ is where you do that
May 16 22:31:16 <ieatlint> and there's a train that runs in front of the hotel that will take you to where that ferry is
May 16 22:32:20 <ieatlint> lbt: i can add a few basic tips if you tell me which wiki page to do it on
May 16 22:33:10 <lbt> http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/Tourism
May 16 22:36:47 <lcuk> ok lbt, connected partners with tourism
May 16 22:37:00 <lcuk> (on the partners page, added link to tourism)
May 16 22:37:45 <lcuk> DawnFoster, have you ever been to SF before?
May 16 22:37:55 <DawnFoster> lcuk: many, many times
May 16 22:38:01 <lcuk> :D
May 16 22:38:04 <DawnFoster> a few times a year usually
May 16 22:38:09 <lcuk> then you should have some excellent tips for the wiki :P
May 16 22:38:13 <DawnFoster> and I lived in san jose for about 9 months
May 16 22:38:55 <DawnFoster> the only catch is that I haven't done the sightseeing thing for years
May 16 22:39:17 <DawnFoster> work always keeps my busy
May 16 22:39:27 * lcuk nods
May 16 22:39:30 <lcuk> as well as cooking!
May 16 22:39:32 <DawnFoster> I know all of the good vegetarian restaurants :)
May 16 22:39:47 <lcuk> put a couple on the tourism thing then
May 16 22:40:40 <lcuk> for the first time since I wrote liqbase, I have about 95% of all the sketches ever drawn on it in one graffiti wall :O
May 16 22:41:15 * lcuk had to rebuild the graffiti wall though to make it usable and scrollable
May 16 22:41:47 <lcuk> 20080415 is the first date listed, it is lacking a set of really early sketches, but it is working happily!
May 16 22:41:56 <lbt> well, I can start the ball rolling ...
May 16 22:48:32 <DawnFoster> ok, I added a few thigns
May 16 22:54:07 <lcuk> :D
May 16 22:58:52 <DawnFoster> lcuk: someone else can add a section for their favorite all meat restaurants :)
May 16 22:59:13 <lcuk> DawnFoster, epicmealtime!
May 16 22:59:24 <DawnFoster> lcuk: I'm all about the food
May 16 23:07:49 <lbt> X-Fade: ping ... more soon but I started an outline for the tutorial http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011/OBS
May 16 23:08:34 <lbt> night all o/
May 16 23:09:41 <DawnFoster> night lbt
May 16 23:10:49 <lcuk> nn lbt \o
May 17 00:33:35 <Guest70561> Hey... where can i get the source for appup client for netbook?
May 17 00:35:15 <gabrbedd> Guest70561: you can't.  That's intel's thing, anyway.
May 17 00:35:59 <gabrbedd> luist: That is to say, Intel's AppUp client is a closed-source binary.  (At least, last I checked)
May 17 00:36:24 <luist> So i cant customize the application?
May 17 00:37:56 <gabrbedd> luist: Probably not.  Ask on an AppUp forum.
May 17 00:38:43 <sergiusens> luist: I work on that, and yes, it's closed source and I don't think you can customize it, but I'm not sure I understand the question either
May 17 00:43:05 <luist> Ok just wondering... my company is starting an intel project for netbooks and tablets and they asked me to research about appup because we were using meego garage with our own repositories and applications
May 17 00:44:13 <sergiusens> well if that's the case, I'm just a miserable software dev these days, but perhaps can get you in touch with the right people
May 17 00:45:06 <luist> Ok thanks for ths information :)
May 17 00:55:54 <megomaniak> hello boys and girls... long time no see
May 17 00:55:59 <megomaniak> miss me?
May 17 00:56:33 <megomaniak> why the sad faces?
May 17 00:57:01 <megomaniak> knock knock
May 17 00:58:04 <megomaniak> how's that LG phone coming along?
May 17 00:59:04 <megomaniak> heard today it's POS...thoughts?
May 17 01:00:21 <megomaniak> not a talkative bunch are we?
May 17 01:01:24 <megomaniak> hello !
May 17 01:02:17 <megomaniak> can anyone help me with meego on n900?
May 17 01:09:31 <asia> hi
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