**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 02 02:59:57 2011 Jul 02 07:11:52 teleca ppl here?? Jul 02 07:14:49 is there any page with packages available for meego? Jul 02 07:18:47 tzorvas: obs and cobs Jul 02 07:19:06 https://build.meego.com/ https://build.pub.meego.com/ Jul 02 07:20:37 dm8tbr: thanks :) Jul 02 07:20:41 np Jul 02 07:25:51 hm... libreoffice is 31/35 broken :/ Jul 02 07:43:03 aslani: 'morning...then you charged it with the flasher?! Jul 02 07:48:58 bash`: yes, flasher has an option to force charge the device to 10%, this is needed e.g. for flashing Jul 02 07:49:48 dm8tbr: 2.5.2 has that too? Jul 02 08:16:21 bash`afk: no idea, try and find out... Jul 02 08:29:53 anyone here know anything about the meego rescue initrd? Jul 02 08:30:03 I am using it on a N900 Jul 02 08:30:13 and I cant type any of the symbols (i.e. the blue symbol button doesnt work) Jul 02 08:30:16 so no - or / Jul 02 08:30:23 which makes it hard to use :( Jul 02 08:30:46 Are you holding it down? Jul 02 08:31:00 yes Jul 02 08:31:05 holding blue key then pressing say 5 Jul 02 08:31:08 I am holding down the arrow key then pressing the F Jul 02 08:31:28 Well, I doubt the keyboard is mapped proberly. Jul 02 08:31:34 You could jus ti Jul 02 08:31:41 just what? Jul 02 08:31:43 install meego cd on a micro sd? Jul 02 08:31:49 ce .. Jul 02 08:32:08 I am booting in the recovery console since my main flash filesystem wont boot Jul 02 08:32:19 if I can get characters to type, I can fix that problem Jul 02 08:32:25 Sure, flash uboot and use meego ce to rescue Jul 02 08:32:43 how can I flash meegoce to a microsd without a working system? Jul 02 08:32:50 You'll get fully working terminal and keyboard. Jul 02 08:33:01 jonwil: fair point Jul 02 08:33:08 You don't have an adapter? Jul 02 08:33:11 Orf Jul 02 08:33:26 anyway to access the card outside of the N900 Jul 02 08:33:29 I have another phone that can read microsd as a mass storage device Jul 02 08:33:42 old motorola Jul 02 08:34:04 you could write out the image to musd and then jumpstart the kernel from flasher Jul 02 08:34:10 or is it too big nowadays? Jul 02 08:35:08 well the first goal is to get a usable image onto my microsd Jul 02 08:35:17 using this motorola Z6 to do it Jul 02 08:35:25 Anyone who can tell me how to do that, please do Jul 02 08:37:05 ok, I can see the microsd as a mass storage device Jul 02 08:37:13 now how can I get a meego image onto it? Jul 02 08:38:09 jonwil: you can plug in to uSD card into the N900, and use the usb mass storage from rescue initrd Jul 02 08:38:59 jonwil: do you use linux? Jul 02 08:39:04 yes Jul 02 08:39:06 I have a gentoo box Jul 02 08:39:18 do you have meego ce image? Jul 02 08:39:42 where do I get it from? Jul 02 08:40:04 ang on Jul 02 08:40:18 firstly make sure you know the device node for the microsd Jul 02 08:40:22 ok so I can see nokia N900 with usb storage Jul 02 08:40:22 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted#Download_image Jul 02 08:40:27 Don't want you blitzing your phone Jul 02 08:41:07 he wants the summer release idealy Jul 02 08:41:39 so I want which files? Jul 02 08:41:46 the mmcblk0p one? Jul 02 08:41:54 http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/archive/1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable-1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 Jul 02 08:41:57 and the vmlinuz I assume Jul 02 08:42:07 No you don't need that kernel Jul 02 08:42:21 ok, downloading that image Jul 02 08:42:34 you need the uboot kernel Jul 02 08:43:40 ok, what do I download? Jul 02 08:43:48 ang on Jul 02 08:44:04 so using the -l option for flasher to load a kernel without flashing to phone is not an option? Jul 02 08:44:07 do you know how to unpack debs? Jul 02 08:44:13 I can unpack deb yes Jul 02 08:44:25 jonwil: it is, but you need to use the uboot kernel for that Jul 02 08:44:32 ok, great Jul 02 08:45:22 do you know how to unpack .debs on gentoo? Jul 02 08:45:57 yes I can Jul 02 08:46:01 which deb do I need? Jul 02 08:46:09 okay: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/u/uboot-pr13/uboot-pr13_1.0.2_armel.deb Jul 02 08:46:24 unpack that and you get a fiasco Jul 02 08:46:40 then use flash to unpack the fiasco and you get the kernel image Jul 02 08:46:42 ok, yep, I got the uboot-and-zImage-2.6.28-20103103+0m5.fiasco file now Jul 02 08:46:48 s/flash/flasher Jul 02 08:48:48 Have you wrote the micro sd yet? Jul 02 08:48:56 nope, still downloading the image Jul 02 08:49:15 Okay, do you know the device node for the micro sd? Jul 02 08:49:25 whats the flasher command to unpack the fiasco file? Jul 02 08:50:01 ok, I got it Jul 02 08:50:03 flasher -F *.fiasco -u Jul 02 08:50:08 I have a zImage file Jul 02 08:50:11 Cool Jul 02 08:50:39 how do I find out what mount my microsd is? Jul 02 08:50:54 jonwil: fdisk -l Jul 02 08:50:56 bzcat /path/to/meego-ce*.bz2 | dd of=/dev/[micro sd node] bs=4096 Jul 02 08:51:29 should either be /dev/sd[abcd] Jul 02 08:51:44 or mmcblk[0123] Jul 02 08:51:52 I usually use dmesg Jul 02 08:52:13 after plugging it in. dmesg should say it's got a new driver Jul 02 08:52:17 erm, drive Jul 02 08:52:37 Morning, all Jul 02 08:52:51 Jaffa: morning, the N950 bearer Jul 02 08:52:57 Hey Jaffa Jul 02 08:53:02 ok, fdisk -l shows 3 drives, one is listed as 40.0gb, one is 20.0gb and one is 32.0gb Jul 02 08:53:09 That's me :) Jul 02 08:53:24 Heh Jul 02 08:53:28 jonwil: and how big is the SD card? Jul 02 08:53:32 I dont know Jul 02 08:53:38 :) Jul 02 08:53:49 jonwil: just unplug the phone with the micro sd in it Jul 02 08:53:53 jonwil: where have you plugged it in? Jul 02 08:54:02 then plug it back in in mass storage mode, then run dmesg Jul 02 08:54:12 its in the older phone or the N900? Jul 02 08:54:27 You should see some output about mmcblk0 or sd something Jul 02 08:54:35 alterego: well with the resuce image, he should be able to access the uSD on the N900 just fine Jul 02 08:54:41 n900 in rescue mode Jul 02 08:54:56 hiemanshu: he doesn't have a fully working keyboard though Jul 02 08:54:59 jonwil: after plugging it in, you'll have to restart yes Jul 02 08:55:10 I can see the n900 disks Jul 02 08:55:20 alterego: sure, but he needs to run the resuce initrd, press u, and it connects the eMMC and SD card as mass storage Jul 02 08:55:37 hiemanshu: okay, didn't know he could do that Jul 02 08:55:47 hiemanshu: I've not used the rescue initrd Jul 02 08:55:51 jonwil: plug in the uSD card, close the back cover, and rerun the rescue initrd Jul 02 08:56:00 I have the microsd plugged in Jul 02 08:56:04 alterego: ah, I use it for changing the default maemo layout Jul 02 08:56:17 (disk layout) Jul 02 08:56:22 jonwil: back cover closed? Jul 02 08:57:01 alterego: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd Jul 02 08:57:19 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Using_Rescue_Initrd#USB_storage_mode_.28U.29 this part specifically Jul 02 08:57:28 Well, I'll never need to use it :P Jul 02 08:58:18 it helps when you do a stupid move like rm -rf * in the /opt directory, and cannot backup any other way :P Jul 02 08:58:40 ok, I have the flasher image and zimage on my gentoo box Jul 02 08:58:47 which I just had to reboot because of a GPU issue :) Jul 02 08:59:47 hmmm ok, anyways, re-run the rescue initrd once, and you should be able to see the uSD card Jul 02 08:59:49 once that boots, I will be able to properly boot the N900 with the right command, then select the mass storage option Jul 02 08:59:52 * hiemanshu has to run for a bit now Jul 02 09:17:10 ok, running dd now Jul 02 09:17:38 lets hope this works and I get a usable image Jul 02 09:18:13 :) Jul 02 09:18:27 What was the device name you're wrtiting to? Jul 02 09:18:59 dev/sdc is what it ended up being Jul 02 09:19:12 Cool Jul 02 09:19:29 its still writing Jul 02 09:19:32 so lets hope this works Jul 02 09:20:08 I couldn't get it to work with my N900 so I am using my old motorola z6 Jul 02 09:20:10 in the hope that works Jul 02 09:20:16 which it seems to be doing Jul 02 09:22:25 :) Jul 02 09:22:26 ok it seems like there is not enough space on my sdcard to fit the image Jul 02 09:22:30 :( Jul 02 09:22:32 fuck Jul 02 09:22:37 balls Jul 02 09:22:41 Is it a 2G? Jul 02 09:22:57 Need at least 4G really :/ Jul 02 09:23:02 oh snap, its an old 1.0gb Jul 02 09:23:09 Hah Jul 02 09:23:13 scht :/ Jul 02 09:23:55 Does the rescue initrd not have ssh server? Jul 02 09:24:06 I dont think it does Jul 02 09:24:22 But I think we could add it or any other needed commands somehow Jul 02 09:24:25 At least I hope so Jul 02 09:25:46 alterego: it has busybox Jul 02 09:26:07 Is that all? :) Jul 02 09:26:07 I doubt there is a sshd though Jul 02 09:26:18 Does it have netcat? :D Jul 02 09:26:34 Just thinking how we can get you a remote shell .. Jul 02 09:27:50 cant we just compile something and add it to the rescue filesystem? Jul 02 09:28:34 alterego: the de-installer has one with nc Jul 02 09:29:08 jonwil: which reminds me Jul 02 09:29:12 jonwil: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/EMMC should work too Jul 02 09:29:23 use the script there, it can install to uSD if available Jul 02 09:29:56 that initrd has usbnet and netcat auto starts Jul 02 09:30:24 so I can use that to flash smaller <1gb image to microsd? Jul 02 09:31:32 well no, if you how to use nc, you can use that thouh Jul 02 09:31:57 though* Jul 02 09:32:34 I think the solution is to get a binary for ssh or something that I can add to initrd.img-descue-blah Jul 02 09:32:38 Thats the only answer I can see Jul 02 09:32:59 or netcat Jul 02 09:33:03 or whatever program Jul 02 09:35:21 i.e. I need something (anything) that can either fit on a 1gb microsd or be loaded into ram Jul 02 09:35:28 and that has remote access somehow Jul 02 09:36:38 any ideas how to do that would be much appreciated Jul 02 09:38:49 wait no I got something now Jul 02 09:39:08 jonwil: unpack the initrd, grab the .rpms built for the meego-ce, and put them in the initrd Jul 02 09:39:11 that should work Jul 02 09:39:29 unpacking the initrd is done how> Jul 02 09:39:31 ? Jul 02 09:40:10 I am not sure what kind of initrd meego-ce uses Jul 02 09:40:14 maybe cpio or something Jul 02 09:40:34 file says its "linux compressed rom file system data" Jul 02 09:41:16 where are the meego gurus when ya need em :P Jul 02 09:41:45 jonwil: try zcat Jul 02 09:42:06 anyways I have to run to the airport now, out for a few hours Jul 02 09:42:10 zcat doesnt work Jul 02 09:43:16 aha, need to compile my kernel with cramfs support Jul 02 09:43:29 then I can mount it and copy bits off Jul 02 09:43:46 and fix it Jul 02 09:54:59 ok, good, all I need now is a usable sshd binary for the N900 Jul 02 09:55:25 for meego Jul 02 10:09:08 jonwil: meego comes with sshd Jul 02 10:13:37 http://rzr.online.fr/q/amiga# : p-uae is a portable #unix #amiga #emulator packaged for #meego and #debian distro, report prerelease tests Jul 02 10:14:20 only amiga makes it possible Jul 02 10:57:46 heho hohe Jul 02 11:40:04 å Jul 02 11:40:25 ü Jul 02 13:11:25 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-n9/check-availability Jul 02 13:12:17 * SpeedEvil is somewhat concerned the UK isn't mentioned. Jul 02 13:13:08 Huh? No france, germany, italy, but poland? Jul 02 13:13:14 there's been a rationale for that, along the line of online-shops closing for several countries Jul 02 13:14:50 where would be the place to ask questions regarding MeeGo CE? is there a specific channel? Jul 02 13:15:05 SpeedEvil: i am glad that Finland is mentioned. Jul 02 13:15:22 Jucato: #meego-arm Jul 02 13:15:31 thanks Jul 02 13:16:01 SpeedEvil: Stskeeps is based in poland, that can be a pointer :) Jul 02 13:16:17 *sigh* Jul 02 13:16:46 SpeedEvil: As DocScrutinizer says, the online stores in the UK, France, Germany, Italy and US have all closed. Jul 02 13:17:12 SpeedEvil: So it's very likely that the "check availability" is only referring to the nokia.com online stores. Jul 02 13:17:37 moo Jaffa Jul 02 13:18:09 moo o/ Jul 02 13:18:12 Ah Jul 02 13:18:37 SpeedEvil: It'd be great if you did a proper analysis and find if the set of shops which has closed is the exact set of countries which are missing, though :) Jul 02 13:19:22 Ah - I see. yeah - I just checked the UK store, and it's indeed closed. I wonder why. Jul 02 13:19:59 Amazon was cheaper, so the whole online shop probably a minus business Jul 02 13:20:46 javispedro: moo Jul 02 13:21:05 moo. Jul 02 13:21:21 I liked the coupons for the n900 though :) Jul 02 13:33:38 Bug 20531 has just been filed Jul 02 13:33:40 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20531 nor, Undecided, ---, brian.warner, NEW, Allow usage of 'MeeGo' in the domain names formeego.com and formeego.org to focus community hw adapt Jul 02 15:05:28 Elleo: ping! :) can I make you a couple of question about your Libre.fm client development? Jul 02 15:10:55 Andy80: sure Jul 02 15:11:21 Elleo: oh I just noticed you replied on your blog comments :) Jul 02 15:11:28 ah right, that was you :) Jul 02 15:11:38 Elleo: I'm the same person ;) I'll try to setup Harmattan SDK under Scratchbox then :) Jul 02 15:11:45 cool Jul 02 15:11:53 yeah, I didn't have much luck with qemu either Jul 02 15:12:01 couldn't get it to do anything other than software gl rendering Jul 02 15:12:10 which made everything pretty much unusable slow Jul 02 15:12:16 yeah Jul 02 15:12:24 so doing everything natively makes life much easier for the most part Jul 02 15:12:32 and using Desktop as target is almost impossible too... Jul 02 15:12:32 although it makes testing stuff like orientation changes more of a problem Jul 02 15:15:51 yeah but at the moment I don't need to test orientation stuff.... having a working UI and being able to test sound would be more than enough! Jul 02 15:16:10 yeah Jul 02 15:17:07 are you using the visual designer or are you manually coding the UI? Jul 02 15:17:29 manually, couldn't get the designer to pick up on the harmattan qml plugin properly Jul 02 15:17:49 plus in the end I found it a bit easier to get stuff laying out in a more flowable way by doing it manually Jul 02 15:18:38 Elleo: yeah, I don't like the qml designer. I do everything manually. Jul 02 15:24:28 <[antenia84]> anyone have a google+ invitation? Jul 02 15:24:43 your email? Jul 02 15:25:11 <[antenia84]> RST38h, have you an invitation for me? Jul 02 15:25:46 ok, I cant get it to pick up usbnet Jul 02 15:25:49 when in meego Jul 02 15:26:07 ideas? Jul 02 15:26:19 ok, do not send your email, forget it. Jul 02 15:26:27 * CosmoHill only just got the book of faces Jul 02 15:27:33 usb networking is hard to set up :( Jul 02 15:27:49 hard to get working Jul 02 15:28:17 so I have no usb, no wifi and no display backlight. Great. Jul 02 15:28:37 no usbnet Jul 02 15:28:47 someone must know how to get usbnet to work :( Jul 02 15:29:16 jonwil: I do think you should have figured by now that nobody here does =) Jul 02 15:31:03 ok, now I got something Jul 02 15:31:23 I see "nokia N900 usb modem #2" Jul 02 15:31:29 Hi there. Jul 02 15:32:06 jonwil: so I guess you still haven't got it working? :P Jul 02 15:32:27 I am an almost complete newbie with an N900, but I am moderately experienced with a Unix system (well, I happen to have about 10 or 15 packages in Debian proper). Jul 02 15:32:48 I am having problems when I try to get a Meego image booting on my N900. Jul 02 15:33:15 still no closer to getting usbnet going which is the last step I need to fix my N900 Jul 02 15:33:24 I have done two things: I installed the uboot version for pr13 and it boots correctly with Maemo. Jul 02 15:34:00 jonwil: ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14 up Jul 02 15:34:10 jonwil: and the phone should give itself 192.168.2.15 Jul 02 15:34:25 I cant get it to work on linux or windows Jul 02 15:34:34 Then, I picked a meego image and tried to write the bzip2'ed image to a 4GB microSD card on my notebook. Jul 02 15:34:35 jonwil: did you try ifconfig? Jul 02 15:35:04 rbrito: umm, how do you write the image? Jul 02 15:35:15 ok, now ifconfig works Jul 02 15:35:22 and I have what appears to be usbnet Jul 02 15:35:34 jonwil: can you ping 192.168.2.15? Jul 02 15:35:40 Unfortunately, when I try to boot this microsd card on the N900, I get a kernel panic when with the kernel telling me that the root filesystem could not be found... Jul 02 15:35:56 hiemanshu: with a plain cat. Jul 02 15:36:09 rbrito: can I have the exact command please? Jul 02 15:36:33 bzip2 -d < the.bzip2 > /dev/mmc0devicethatIcan't remmeber (the whole device, not a partition). Jul 02 15:36:54 rbrito: you should probably dd it to the device Jul 02 15:36:55 not cat it Jul 02 15:37:19 rbrito: bzcat mmc.bz2 | dd of=/dev/mmcblkx Jul 02 15:37:20 bzcat yourimage.bz2 | dd bs=4096 of=/dev/mmc0p1 or what have you Jul 02 15:37:22 that is the command Jul 02 15:37:29 Elleo: care to elaborate a little bit more about it, aside from buffering that dd does? Jul 02 15:37:31 oh right, bs-2096 Jul 02 15:38:06 ugh, bs=4096 Jul 02 15:38:16 hiemanshu: OK, I will try dd. :-) Let's see if that changes things... Jul 02 15:38:35 rbrito: dd does a bitwise copy of the image, on to the device, rather than just copying the files contained within it onto the device Jul 02 15:38:38 Yes, 4KB for each block size... Jul 02 15:38:45 rbrito: it should, because dd != cat Jul 02 15:39:26 s/files/contents of the files/ Jul 02 15:39:26 Elleo meant: rbrito: dd does a bitwise copy of the image, on to the device, rather than just copying the contents of the files contained within it onto the device Jul 02 15:40:01 Elleo: OK, I will try it, but aside from buffering and changes in chunks written, I can't see how things would change... Jul 02 15:40:58 I can, BTW, mount the SD card on my notebook, where everything is recognized (partition table, boot partition, an ext4 partition)... Jul 02 15:41:15 ok, run the ifconfig command and usb0 appears Jul 02 15:41:15 OK, writing it. Will send feedback so that we can see what happens. Jul 02 15:41:23 but I cant ping 192.168.2.15 Jul 02 15:42:09 also, what image are you using? Jul 02 15:42:19 you did get an arm image, not an x86 image, right? Jul 02 15:43:29 Elleo: mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable-1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 Jul 02 15:43:39 yeah, that looks right Jul 02 15:43:57 That's an arm one... Jul 02 15:48:59 trying to run a compiled binary inside Scratchbox with Harmattan target I get this: /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set Jul 02 15:49:03 how can I fix it? Jul 02 15:50:51 Andy80: are you using the x86 scratchbox? Jul 02 15:50:56 it sounds like you might be using the arm one Jul 02 15:51:09 if you want to run stuff natively you should compile it in the x86 target Jul 02 15:51:21 than just switch to the arm target when you want to compile for the actual device Jul 02 15:51:47 the hostname should show: sbox-HARMATTAN_X86 if you're in the right target Jul 02 15:52:25 Elleo: yes I'm using the x86 one Jul 02 15:52:43 Elleo: [sbox-HARMATTAN_X86: ~] > meego-run ./flickr Jul 02 15:53:16 not sure what's up then Jul 02 15:54:16 if you do "file flickr" what does it tell you? Jul 02 16:01:31 [sbox-HARMATTAN_X86: ~] > file flickr Jul 02 16:01:32 flickr: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped Jul 02 16:01:36 wtf... Jul 02 16:01:41 I compiled for x86 Jul 02 16:02:28 Elleo: which target do you choose in QtCreator when you want to compile for x86? Jul 02 16:04:34 Andy80: ah, did you configure QtCreator to use the toolchain in scratchbox? I think I forgot to point you to that guide: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Platform_Guide/Getting_started_with_Harmattan_Platform_SDK/Integrating_Qt_Creator_with_Scratchbox_in_Linux_environment Jul 02 16:05:01 Elleo: I missed that part :) Jul 02 16:05:12 Elleo: I'll try it later then! Thanks for now ;) Jul 02 16:05:18 no worries Jul 02 16:08:53 Elleo: your code looks quite good to understand :) I'll take it as guide to structure my app :) Jul 02 16:09:35 :) Jul 02 16:09:58 it's my first attempt at doing anything much with QT and QML so it might not be the perfect guide ;) Jul 02 16:11:12 Elleo: right but.... I tried to follow official examples and they're a big caos of code.... Qt code mixed with QML... I really hate it. I prefer your way, separating the code in the servercomm and putting only UI stuff in .qml files Jul 02 16:12:18 yeah, well I prefer having UI stuff as separate as possible, especially as I might want to have some different UI for tablet/desktop versions Jul 02 16:23:05 Ahaha Jul 02 16:23:27 Anybody catch Quim's sad violin tweet? Jul 02 16:23:52 ? Jul 02 16:24:40 Yes :D Jul 02 16:27:00 Elleo: exactly :) Jul 02 16:27:22 Elleo: all the QtQuick/QML tutorials, lessons ecc... I followed did everything in QML Jul 02 16:27:53 I remember for example a QML twitter client we tried to realize at MeeGo Conference.... it was using just qml :\ Jul 02 16:31:28 Elleo: just a strange thing I noticed... why are you using Phonon and not QtMultimedia which is part of QtMobility? Jul 02 16:34:14 Andy80: from reading the docs QtMultimedia appears to be aimed at lower level usage and recommends phonon for higher level use Jul 02 16:34:45 uhm.... things have changed then :\ Jul 02 16:35:13 when I developed LastGo (Last.fm client for Maemo) I used QtMultimedia, it was the suggested one Jul 02 16:37:42 It sort of depends on who's around when you ask the question... Jul 02 16:38:39 anyway... the usage is almost the same.... 1) set the source, 2) play :) Jul 02 16:40:02 I think the most difficoult (at lest for me) part will be creating a custom ListView in QML and fill it with data dinamically. But I really think is a very common task and I hope I'll find documentation, tutorials ecc... Jul 02 16:40:41 well, I've done that Jul 02 16:41:05 there's a sample I wrote for that Jul 02 16:41:44 http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-ux/meego-ux-content/trees/master/sampleqml/meego-sample-content Jul 02 16:41:54 the model that uses is from c++ Jul 02 16:42:06 I'm not actually sure if it's possible to make a model in qml Jul 02 16:43:10 maligor: something like this http://library.developer.nokia.com/topic/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_API/html/qt-components/images/example-flickr-listview.png to give you an example :) Jul 02 16:43:51 well, the sample is quite similar actually Jul 02 16:43:59 it has a image, title and text for the display model Jul 02 16:44:12 the source model as I said, is c++ tho Jul 02 16:44:43 SpeedEvil, can't get you a link from TwimGo, apparently. Jul 02 16:44:47 the QAbstractItemModel Jul 02 16:45:23 Andy80, which bit of it is confusing you?-) Jul 02 16:46:13 what is the nature of the model you're making? Jul 02 16:46:17 maligor: which target do I have to use to run it? Jul 02 16:46:25 You can populate a model using "append" function in js Jul 02 16:46:37 I used it to create a json based model yesterday Jul 02 16:46:38 Andy80, well, it's a part of the tablet images Jul 02 16:47:02 maligor: oh... so I've to use the MeeGo SDK..... I was opening it with QtSDK Jul 02 16:47:12 Andy80, the basic part is the "Delegate" and the ListView Jul 02 16:47:34 line 157 in main.qml for listview Jul 02 16:48:28 the delegate is declared just below it Jul 02 16:48:45 and the delegate item itself is in the SampleItem.qml Jul 02 16:50:19 Andy80, there's also examples of that in the qml docs actually Jul 02 16:51:07 http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/demos-declarative-twitter.html Jul 02 16:51:38 uses some xml parser model Jul 02 16:53:59 * TSCHAKeee is currently having to create a shitload of C++ glue classes Jul 02 16:54:06 to ferry data to qml Jul 02 16:55:01 I'd prefer writing everything in c++, and just the gui glue in qml ;P Jul 02 16:56:04 we all have what we prefer Jul 02 16:56:04 maligor: sounds like a reasonable approach, and is quite doable Jul 02 16:56:13 the difference is, what's reality? Jul 02 16:56:16 :P Jul 02 16:56:30 I can bitch and complain all i want, but I still have to do it Jul 02 16:56:33 ;) Jul 02 16:56:42 the reality is that there's people who bitch and complain that they want it in qml+javascript ;P Jul 02 16:56:53 if you don't believe it and its still there, it's probably reality Jul 02 16:57:04 and those people...are pussies. Jul 02 16:57:59 I think of it a bit like python.. it's nice, but you don't want to do anything that affects performance in it ;P Jul 02 16:58:41 I know the new javascript engines are awesome tho Jul 02 16:58:53 they're getting better Jul 02 17:33:11 Hi there, again. Jul 02 17:37:20 Well, with dd or not writing to the SD card, when uboot loads the uImage, the kernel has mapped the internal memory at mmcblk0 and the SD card at mmcblk1, but it tries use mmcblk0p1 as the root partition, which fails. Is this a known/reported problem? Jul 02 17:37:55 I don't know if meego uses udev or if it uses a static /dev to tell it where to find things... Jul 02 17:38:38 device? Jul 02 17:38:42 image? Jul 02 17:38:58 Oh, just to be sure, uboot *does* load the 2.6.37 kernel made by the adaptation team. Jul 02 17:39:30 dm8tbr: meego 2011-07-01 (actually, the -06-23 image gives the same results). The device is a N900. Jul 02 17:41:50 it works for everyone else, so there's likely something that you did differently Jul 02 17:42:19 dm8tbr: Of course, that's possible. :-) Jul 02 17:42:43 you wrote to the raw device not to the first partition? Jul 02 17:42:49 dm8tbr: Just to recap, I installed uboot pr13... Jul 02 17:42:52 dm8tbr: sure. Jul 02 17:42:59 you have your back-cover on? Jul 02 17:43:09 dm8tbr: I know a little bit about booting with Linux... :-) Jul 02 17:43:29 http://rb.doesntexist.org/blog/posts/running_grub2_on_powerpc_macs/ Jul 02 17:43:33 :-) Jul 02 17:43:42 I don't doubt that, but do you know how to make n900 boot a meego image? ;-p Jul 02 17:44:23 Just un'bzip2'ed and piped that to the block device corresponding to the SD card. Jul 02 17:44:29 The actual command: Jul 02 17:44:33 sounds fine Jul 02 17:44:39 and the n900 back cover is on? Jul 02 17:45:01 bzip2 -d < foo.img.bz2 > /dev/mmcblk0 (on my notebook). Jul 02 17:45:26 dm8tbr: no, I left it off, because I still plan on fiddling with it, until it works... :-) Jul 02 17:45:38 *badaching* Jul 02 17:45:42 you won the zonk Jul 02 17:45:50 please put the back cover on, reboot Jul 02 17:45:52 ... Jul 02 17:45:54 profit Jul 02 17:45:55