**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 16 02:59:57 2011 Aug 16 03:13:50 .... Aug 16 03:15:32 I have install gsteamer-plugins-base,but can't play avi,rmvd,rm, video files also...who can help me,,,Is there anyone who use totem to play avi rmvb rm? Aug 16 04:21:45 morning Aug 16 04:26:31 what does meego use to manage "services" or daemons Aug 16 04:26:56 i am trying to adapt a package which uses upstart to run on a meego system Aug 16 04:27:16 flailingmonkey: sysvinit in 1.2, 1.3 has systemd Aug 16 04:29:42 Stskeeps: so I will make a relevant init file for 1.2, and worry about systemd when 1.3 when tablet images start getting built Aug 16 04:30:56 i'm working on getting the Chrontel chip in the EXOPC tablet working to do HDMI output Aug 16 04:31:52 :nod: Aug 16 04:31:58 i think arfoll worked on that? Aug 16 04:32:10 https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15637 Aug 16 04:32:12 Bug 15637 nor, Medium, ---, peng.li, NEW, [EXOPC] Unable to connect HDMI Aug 16 04:32:32 yeah, I've been chatting with arfoll a bit on various EXOPC support things Aug 16 04:33:12 oho! it's been updated just yesterday Aug 16 04:34:21 morning Aug 16 04:35:02 so he got it working with the WeTab code. I'm trying to get it work using the actively maintained code from chrome os Aug 16 04:35:17 actually its chromium os Aug 16 04:36:34 the WeTab code looks like it took the chromium os code as well, but did some hacking on top of it to get it working with some sort of qt app Aug 16 04:36:56 so I'll continue my own efforts too ;) Aug 16 04:43:51 moaning Aug 16 05:12:01 . Aug 16 05:13:19 morn TSCHAKeee Aug 16 05:13:29 morning. ;) Aug 16 05:34:14 morning Aug 16 06:36:05 gday Aug 16 07:28:48 hi! lost password for OBS. can anyone here help, or should i create a new bug requesting account reset? Aug 16 07:29:17 probably best to request a account reset Aug 16 07:29:29 Stskeeps: ok, thanks Aug 16 07:37:48 eluttine: reset your MeeGo password, the OBS password should follow that after some-time(tm) Aug 16 07:37:59 (if it's build.pub.meego.com, build.meego.com doesn't, afaik..) Aug 16 07:38:17 ah, yes my statement valid for COBS only Aug 16 07:38:53 core obs -> contact whoever is responsible, I'd guess ReleaseEngineering Aug 16 07:39:03 dm8tbr: thanks for info Aug 16 07:39:19 eluttine: so which obs? :) Aug 16 07:39:34 have been using build.meego.com Aug 16 07:39:47 but what is the difference? Aug 16 07:41:06 then it is most likely not linked to your meego.com account Aug 16 07:41:44 I do not know the process for that. Most of it seems to be secret or not documented at the moment. Aug 16 07:42:51 eluttine: contact the person you got your account from in the first place? Aug 16 07:43:41 dm8tbr: i created bug to reset or resent passwd. let's see if it works that way Aug 16 07:45:16 eluttine: sounds like a good option Aug 16 07:48:46 so I have now found that one of the kernel modules relied upon by the chromiumos project's chrontel module has not yet been (or isn't fit to be) included upstream Aug 16 07:49:06 well, the chrontel code isn't a kernel module, its all userspace Aug 16 07:49:37 flailingmonkey: which module would that be? Aug 16 07:49:39 i guess later on i have to package the module's code up on its own Aug 16 07:50:00 dm8tbr: they load up a module named nm10_gpio Aug 16 07:51:48 ah, a plain gpio driver it seems Aug 16 07:52:34 is it possible to use OBS to compile a kernel module? I guess it should be if you pull in the kernel headers etc Aug 16 07:53:05 yea thats what i am hoping Aug 16 07:53:26 dm8tbr: -devel package yes Aug 16 07:53:29 not kernel-headers Aug 16 07:53:49 i don't want to make a request of adding to the kernel a driver/module which didn't pass muster upstream Aug 16 07:53:53 Stskeeps: *nod*, haven't done that stuff for a while Aug 16 07:54:47 it looks like some others had written a more comprehensive GPIO driver that supported NM10's gpio stuff, but it didn't get accepted Aug 16 07:55:12 it is only used to identify the i2c bus that the chrontel chip is on in a dynamic way Aug 16 08:03:36 flailingmonkey, have you seen what i've done with the chrontel pkg? Aug 16 08:04:45 arfoll: yup, i'm glad to hear you got the wetab code working :) Aug 16 08:05:12 flailingmonkey, i dont get why you need the nm10_gpio to detect the chrontel card Aug 16 08:05:25 is there a repository where wetab stuff is getting maintained/developed? or do we just pull from their image Aug 16 08:05:41 arfoll: i don't think i really need to. it's just part of the upstart script they wrote Aug 16 08:05:49 they have a bunch of src.rpm Aug 16 08:06:17 i'm stepping through this script myself, and i was able to find the i2c device just fine without the nm10_gpio thing Aug 16 08:06:22 but basically the new chrontel pkg explained here https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15637 has a udev rule and a modfied start script Aug 16 08:06:25 Bug 15637 nor, Medium, ---, peng.li, NEW, [EXOPC] Unable to connect HDMI Aug 16 08:07:07 * RaymondL .. Aug 16 08:08:04 found the wetab source packages over at http://update.tiitoo.com/source/packages/ Aug 16 08:08:24 thats where i got the code from originally Aug 16 08:08:42 but i don't see one that says hdmi in it? Aug 16 08:08:44 nvm Aug 16 08:08:46 chrontel got it Aug 16 08:09:05 but have a look at the new chrontel pkg mentioned in that bug, if you have the i2c-i801 and i2c-dev it works straight away Aug 16 08:09:40 and there is a prebuilt kernel with those modules Aug 16 08:09:48 from looking at the source code, it is clear that they took code from chromiumos git, and then worked at it to make some qt app (i don't quite understand that part but, alright. some widget?) Aug 16 08:10:17 whereas the chromiumos project has made a bunch of updates to the chrontel code Aug 16 08:10:44 flailingmonkey, yes they made the code into a c++ prj and then used qt to make an app to interface on dbus so the user can switch on and off the functionality using the UI Aug 16 08:11:42 i started trying to backport some of the chrontel fixes but decided a one by one basis would be easier Aug 16 08:12:32 yea, working through the c++ conversion with the fixes would be non-trivial Aug 16 08:13:18 that's why I'm just trying to see if I can get the chromiumos approach to work. i suppose i'm a bit of a masochist :p Aug 16 08:14:45 shouldnt be hard though you'll need to make makefiles or some kind of build system Aug 16 08:15:38 i didnt really see all that many interesting fixes though Aug 16 08:15:58 it's less about the fixes than being close to an "upstream" Aug 16 08:17:10 does the wetab package provide the UI to do the enabling/disabling of HDMI output? i wonder if there is even a time when you would have an hdmi cable plugged in when you didn't want to output, or want to output when cable isn't plugged in... Aug 16 08:18:23 flailingmonkey, no it doesnt. and i guess it is kinda pointless and could be all stripped out Aug 16 08:24:33 flailingmonkey: I can easily come up with a scenario where I want the tablet to have display on while HDMI is plugged in *and* feeding data to an external display Aug 16 08:24:35 oh darn Aug 16 08:25:04 that nm10_gpio thing is actually needed it seems Aug 16 08:25:16 Bostik, currently thats how it works, display on tablet is on and so is hdmi display Aug 16 08:25:24 Bostik: this is only about controlling whether HDMI output is on, not the tablet's display Aug 16 08:25:28 * Stskeeps would want to disable the main screen at times too Aug 16 08:25:44 ah Aug 16 08:26:02 there are definitely times I wish I had a hardware lock switch like on N900 for EXOPC Aug 16 08:26:07 Stskeeps, just dim the brightness and voila ;-) Aug 16 08:26:26 main screen turn on Aug 16 08:26:53 how are you gentlemen Aug 16 08:27:04 morning \o Aug 16 08:27:39 flailingmonkey, isn't nm10_gpio allready in the meego kernel? Aug 16 08:28:15 you are on the way to destruction Aug 16 08:28:40 arfoll: only place i found nm10_gpio is on git.chromium.org Aug 16 08:29:20 flailingmonkey, well then how does chrontel work without it? Aug 16 08:29:29 support for NM10's primary functions doesn't look like it requires exposing the NM10 GPIO stuff Aug 16 08:29:49 i mean it can't be required if i can have chrontel running without it Aug 16 08:29:50 arfoll: maybe wetab people built it into their code? no idea... :/ Aug 16 08:33:07 flailingmonkey, from a v.quick look it doesn't seem likely Aug 16 08:33:27 it looks like the wetab version never uses gpio Aug 16 08:36:31 back in may is when the chromiumos git has this commit: "Find I2C bus that could have CH7036 instead of guessing" Aug 16 08:37:08 flailingmonkey, yeah but what i did was use a udev rule to find the ch7036 and symlink it to /dev/hdmi Aug 16 08:37:22 wetab code assumes it'll turn up on /dev/i2c-2 which is quite hackish Aug 16 08:38:18 the ch7036_monitor app takes in a device file from dev and a "GPIOFLAG" argument, which is expected to be a path like Aug 16 08:38:30 /sys/class/gpio/gpio207/value Aug 16 08:38:51 do you have a path like that? i don't have a gpio directory under /sys/class Aug 16 08:41:30 i dont have the exo with me atm Aug 16 08:41:45 no problem Aug 16 08:43:12 flailingmonkey, it doesnt look like nm10_gpio is from that commit : http://git.chromium.org/gitweb//?p=chromiumos/third_party/chrontel.git;a=commitdiff;h=963f2da4d32ee60ef1371fcb047352a2cbd2a4f3 Aug 16 08:43:29 basically they do exactly what my udev rule does Aug 16 08:43:41 yeah you're right, the gpio stuff seems to have been earlier Aug 16 09:15:18 where are the latest pinetrail images Aug 16 09:24:15 hurrah obs is building my package Aug 16 09:24:16 lcuk: http://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest-1.2/images/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail/ Aug 16 09:24:39 that isn't Testing though Aug 16 09:25:01 http://download.meego.com/snapshots/latest-testing-1.2/images/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail/ Aug 16 09:25:03 thanks flailingmonkey that is ok Aug 16 09:25:08 lol ok :p Aug 16 09:25:14 i see your packages are going through obs too Aug 16 09:25:39 I see an exopc pproject Aug 16 09:25:42 what are you building? Aug 16 09:25:55 trying to get a certain library to be added to the kernel adaptation, by enabling the correct kernel config stuff Aug 16 09:26:15 it has been smooth up until this point :p Aug 16 09:26:29 good Aug 16 09:26:37 how are you finding obs? Aug 16 09:27:19 much more usable when actually learning to use osc instead of just the webui Aug 16 09:28:49 flailingmonkey, yes, the osc is good Aug 16 09:28:58 sometimes having the webui is good too Aug 16 09:29:03 especially for diagnostics Aug 16 09:29:11 think i figured out the problem Aug 16 09:29:43 turning on a kernel config means you have to actually specify sub-configs as "not set" or they end up trying to be built as modules... or something Aug 16 09:31:59 another round of building! Aug 16 09:32:39 it is going quick because only 3 of 21 build hosts are busy Aug 16 09:34:05 oh if i click the word "building" it has an auto-refreshed view of the build log Aug 16 09:34:07 very very nice Aug 16 09:34:33 yeah flailingmonkey I am looking at building lq* stuff so that I can use them on meego-ce Aug 16 09:35:10 i used to test out meego on my N900 Aug 16 09:35:11 i have been bookreading with it and keep picking up my n900-ce and remembering it does not yet work through obs Aug 16 09:35:46 but the microUSB port is no longer working. still on the board, but it moves a bit. no charging and no data so no way to flash kernels :/ Aug 16 09:36:03 flailingmonkey: got uboot installed? Aug 16 09:36:16 that's how i survive personally Aug 16 09:36:49 I wasn't dual booting yet, I was just using flasher to load kernel temporarily and boot off microSD Aug 16 09:37:15 ah Aug 16 09:37:48 yep :/ Aug 16 09:38:11 gotta open my N900 up at some point (if i can get the right torx screwdriver bits) and take a closer look Aug 16 09:40:16 flailingmonkey, there is another USB port accessable from the back side of N900 (solder pads only). I wonder if you could use those as a regular port just like that microUSB port Aug 16 09:42:27 flailingmonkey, you should be branching from devel:kernel:1.2 not MeeGo:1.2:oss Aug 16 09:43:31 arfoll: yeah probably, but my changes are tiny. making a new branch when I (possibly) am ready to submit a change request won't be much difficulty Aug 16 09:43:58 i still dont understand why you need CONFIG_GENERIC_GPIO and CONFIG_GPIOLIB Aug 16 09:44:35 i was having trouble figuring out how to do the branching, which lbt helped me out with Aug 16 09:45:26 oh, I think that the newer chrontel code uses the GPIO interfaces to handle more output resolutions and handle detection more smoothly Aug 16 09:45:52 ah thats cool Aug 16 10:03:26 arfoll: did you also notice the bug with io.h requiring xen.h but xen.h not being there? also an issue when trying to build crystalhd Aug 16 10:05:21 io.h? that's a DOS thing... Aug 16 10:05:46 from arch/x86/include/asm/io.h Aug 16 10:06:14 flailingmonkey, no, which file includes io.h? Aug 16 10:06:35 anyway, it's actually an upstream kernel bug. someone put an include at the top of the file instead of inside the ifdef that checked for CONFIG_XEN, so it was always included even when the relevant code wasn't being used Aug 16 10:07:23 lol, you would have only seen it with crystalhd compile. it was nm10_gpio which included it *sigh* :p Aug 16 10:08:00 more so, it was being included even though the kernel config was leaving out the particular header Aug 16 10:08:05 ah right, crystalhd compile was way to long ago for me to remember. and actually all i was interested in was getting the library headers so i could compile xbmc against it (so that it could be installed on wetab) Aug 16 10:08:18 at that time wetab werent kind enough to provide src.rpms Aug 16 10:08:22 so nm10_gpio thing is now compiled Aug 16 10:13:03 ok thats it for tonight Aug 16 10:13:41 i still can't get a /sys/class/gpio directory lol Aug 16 10:15:04 guess you have to stay up a while longer then ;-) Aug 16 10:15:43 *headdesk* Aug 16 10:15:45 # CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS is not set Aug 16 10:15:47 flailingmonkey: Error: "CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS" is not a valid command. Aug 16 10:15:55 CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS is not set Aug 16 10:16:08 well, time for another build :p Aug 16 10:33:21 God damn QtCreator Aug 16 10:39:42 * lcuk uses mxr Aug 16 10:40:39 qtcreator still segfaults on F15 for me with the -style windows cmdline Aug 16 10:44:03 slaine, it has always been working for me, even the nightlies Aug 16 10:48:02 I'll try a yum reinstall Aug 16 10:48:38 slaine: what output do you get? Aug 16 10:49:16 radiofree: Qml Designer: Log File is ….. Aug 16 10:53:00 removed qt-4.7.3 and all it's deps, reinstalling qt-creator now Aug 16 11:04:18 Venemo: is your F15 box x86-64 ? Aug 16 11:04:41 slaine, that's correct Aug 16 11:04:46 Hmmm Aug 16 11:04:50 weird Aug 16 11:10:57 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Contributors Aug 16 11:11:01 a growing list! Aug 16 11:11:16 loads of folks involved :D Aug 16 11:13:21 very nice Aug 16 11:13:29 I hope there will be a usable release soon Aug 16 11:13:42 I regularly read their wikipage and get enthusiastic Aug 16 11:13:52 then I read the QA page, and I get sad again. Aug 16 11:23:33 build.meego.com is down? Aug 16 11:24:34 marquiz: yes Aug 16 11:25:04 it's getting down with the sickness Aug 16 11:25:17 c'mon now, let's all get down with the sickness Aug 16 11:35:30 are you disturbed? :) Aug 16 11:48:19 hi yall Aug 16 11:48:35 .o/ Aug 16 11:48:41 * CosmoHill offers html tea and biscuits Aug 16 11:50:14 morning Aug 16 11:50:36 * CosmoHill offers berndhs tea and biscuits too Aug 16 11:50:38 mmmm , yumie! i got the honey ! Aug 16 11:50:45 :D Aug 16 11:51:30 my mum told me to use local honey in my tea before the hayfever starts Aug 16 11:52:04 my mom has usually said to use local alcohol after flu has come.. Aug 16 11:52:12 berndhs, no worries i made a feast for all, just set youyr own place at the table Aug 16 11:52:18 my mum told me not to accept food from irc Aug 16 11:52:41 my mom has several times asked me to ask something from irc.. Aug 16 11:52:50 my dad told me rum and tea were good if you have the flu Aug 16 11:53:01 won't make you any better, but you won't care Aug 16 11:53:49 rum speeds it up but tea keeps it at bay Aug 16 11:54:15 berndhs, "it much more nicer to be sick if you are little bit drunked" said my mom Aug 16 11:54:18 arfoll, lol , but you tke advice from us Aug 16 11:55:18 iekku, and how are you? Aug 16 11:56:39 html, wondering if i'm going to have flu :P Aug 16 11:56:45 html, how are you :) Aug 16 11:57:08 21 Aug 16 11:57:20 this conversation is become hard to follow Aug 16 11:58:02 CosmoHill, really :D Aug 16 11:58:03 CosmoHill, its about food, and sickness Aug 16 11:58:17 where does 21 come from then? Aug 16 11:58:18 html, what was the 21? Aug 16 11:58:27 sick 21/100 ? Aug 16 12:04:23 gabriel9: ;) Aug 16 12:09:43 iekku, you asked my age Aug 16 12:10:50 html: that's why it confused me, he didn't ask your age Aug 16 12:11:00 nice to know tho Aug 16 12:17:44 html, no i didn't :D Aug 16 12:17:50 CosmoHill, she by the way :P Aug 16 12:18:01 my bad Aug 16 12:21:43 * CosmoHill goes to earn money Aug 16 12:42:19 hi, Aug 16 12:43:29 is there anyone who use totem to play avi rmvb mepg and wma video files in meego? Aug 16 12:46:12 zoujieorg, which meego are you talking about? I assume netbook? Aug 16 12:47:46 yes... Aug 16 12:47:52 netbook Aug 16 12:48:06 acer happy2 Aug 16 12:48:13 meego1.2 Aug 16 12:49:31 yesterday,I also try mplayer ,,mplayer can play avi and rmvb ,,but no sound... Aug 16 12:49:58 so i want to try totem.... Aug 16 12:50:28 I'd guess installing the right gst-plugins-ugly/bad should help a lot? Aug 16 12:50:32 persionly..I like it,cause it's simple ... Aug 16 12:50:58 I just install gst-plugins-base Aug 16 12:54:21 I also try to install gst-ffmegpe but fails...error msg: Aug 16 12:54:27 configure: No package 'gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10' found Aug 16 12:54:29 configure: error: no gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 >= 0.10.31 (GStreamer Base Plugins) found Aug 16 12:55:11 but I did have instold gstreamer-plugins-base Aug 16 12:55:34 zoujieorg: it has to match the release you have Aug 16 12:57:38 dm8tbr:do you mean,,,,gst-ffmegpe release should match gst-plugins-base? Aug 16 12:58:48 Defining the requirements for a MeeGo-CE http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.meego.devel/10927 Aug 16 12:59:19 zoujieorg: gst-plugin-ffmpeg or whatever the name of that package must be built for that particular meego release (1.2?) else it won't work Aug 16 13:04:39 哦，谢谢 Aug 16 13:04:52 ok Aug 16 13:05:00 dm8thbr thanks a lot Aug 16 13:15:28 dm8thbr : one more question ,do you mean I cant use gstreamer-plugins tarball ,only use "zypper " from meego repos? Aug 16 13:15:45 dm8thbr : I Aug 16 13:16:00 I'm not good at english Aug 16 13:21:09 zoujieorg: you should be able to compile it yourself, my comment only pertains to binaries Aug 16 13:34:45 * Stskeeps pokes OBS with a stick Aug 16 13:36:07 Stskeeps, what are you building? Aug 16 13:38:11 nothing atm Aug 16 13:41:29 Hello everyone! Stskeeps, I've seen your name mentioned on the Tegra 2 page of the Wiki. If you don't mind, may I ask you some questions about flashing a Tegra 2 board with a MeeGo raw image ? Aug 16 13:42:04 i don't, ask vgrade and co :) Aug 16 13:43:32 oh, sorry then. I'm not from the community, and since vgrade wasn't on, I thought you would be the next one to ask (as that's about the only other name I've found :)) ) Aug 16 13:47:10 BogdanV, hey i've been working on tegra2/trimslice - what would u like to know? Aug 16 13:49:33 hi there! i was trying to find some up-to-date info on building and flashing a meego image to run on my xoom. i did manage to find a raw image on http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/tegra2/ which seems just what I need, but I was wondering how am I supposed to get the tablet to boot off the sdcard ? Aug 16 13:49:35 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10738 nor, Undecided, ---, david, NEED, Meego community ftp server or similar needed Aug 16 13:51:31 BogdanV, have a look here on how to boot on various android devices http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD Aug 16 13:51:48 i'm not sure about specifics of the xoom, using N1 it's fairly easy Aug 16 13:52:05 but if you expect a nice UI and a gd product you're about to be seriously dissapointed Aug 16 13:52:41 the current tegra2 image for trimslice will most likely at least require you to rework the xorg.conf, i'm not sure of the comptability between tegra2 models Aug 16 13:53:12 contemplating a xubuntu install on my ideapad Aug 16 13:53:30 slaine, why not just put xfce on it? Aug 16 13:53:32 How does XFCE perform on 1024x600 Aug 16 13:53:52 arfoll, I want something separate from MeeGo Aug 16 13:53:52 slaine, best way to know is to check Aug 16 13:53:55 and report back! Aug 16 13:53:58 will do Aug 16 13:54:18 it's always fine until you hit that dialog that you can't press the buttons and go 'Gahhhh' Aug 16 13:54:29 lol Aug 16 13:54:30 yeah Aug 16 13:54:37 you realise you're on #meego? ;-) Aug 16 13:54:45 in times past, our UI had to be designed for 800*600 for this reason Aug 16 13:54:46 arfoll: it's for meego dev Aug 16 13:55:01 I can't get QtCreator to work on F15 Aug 16 13:55:06 it keep segfaulting Aug 16 13:55:08 then use qt creator on meego Aug 16 13:55:17 works ok on my nc10 Aug 16 13:55:24 I've found meego to be a poor dev env Aug 16 13:55:35 slaine: what's the back trace? Aug 16 13:55:40 I use it to dogfood Aug 16 13:56:11 radiofree: what was that codlin arg again, just to be sure I didn't mess it up Aug 16 13:56:30 ./qtcreator -style windows Aug 16 13:56:47 but to make sure it's actually doing anything, try -style motif Aug 16 13:56:52 you'll know if that worked.... Aug 16 13:57:03 yeah, I'm doing it right, but it's not taking affect Aug 16 13:57:45 check the menus Aug 16 13:57:50 they should look like the 1970's Aug 16 13:57:59 radiofree, why is that necessary? Aug 16 13:58:02 (with -style motif) Aug 16 13:58:17 Venemo_N950: qt quick designer crashing when using the gtk theme Aug 16 13:58:20 nod, yes, the style is changing, but the segfault is still present Aug 16 13:58:20 thanks arfoll ! indeed, fastboot seems to be the way, and it seems to be quite a clean method. one last thing, if you don't mind (and sorry if it was asked a thousand times because I've heard all sorts of stories out there) : did nvidia really release meego compatible binaries for the graphics driver ? Aug 16 13:58:27 mhmmm Aug 16 13:59:55 Venemo_N950: I had the same problem when i tried the designer, never looked for a fix though since i don't use qt creator Aug 16 14:00:14 but i know -style windows worked for me (and does now, segfault with gtk theme, fine with windows style) Aug 16 14:00:16 BogdanV, yes nvidia released hardfp drivers that are compatible with meego Aug 16 14:00:19 weird Aug 16 14:00:54 https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com//browse/QTBUG-15592 Aug 16 14:01:05 but the xoom has a Tegra 250 T20, i don't know if thats the same or if there are incompatibilites with the trimslice tegra Aug 16 14:01:44 arfoll: there are hfp drivers for T2? interesting. haven't seen it mentioned in bug 17570 Aug 16 14:01:47 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17570 nor, Undecided, ---, ibrahim, NEW, Lack of hardfp compiled graphics drivers from TI, Qualcomm, nVidia, etc Aug 16 14:02:38 dm8tbr, they come from trimslice (from nvidia), and i'm not too sure on their reditributableness Aug 16 14:02:53 oic Aug 16 14:04:13 dm8tbr, they are in 'beta' at nvidia but work quite well : http://www.madeo.co.uk/?p=851 Aug 16 14:04:33 so, there are several variations on the 250 ? i thought it was the same board everywhere (with obvious differences between dev and production hw) Aug 16 14:05:00 i only know whats on wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra#Tegra_2_series Aug 16 14:05:48 i guess since trimslice is at 1ghz it has to be AP20H or T20 tegra 250 Aug 16 14:06:28 good morning Alison_Chaiken Aug 16 14:07:02 well, I'll take the plunge anyway and return to tell you guys the news (that is, if anyone's interested on it) Aug 16 14:07:12 BogdanV, yes please do :-) Aug 16 14:08:27 BogdanV, you probably want to try with this image http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/trimslice/trimslice.img.bz2 Aug 16 14:08:31 DawnFoster: ping Aug 16 14:08:55 its far from perfect and will definately require some tweaking for you, but its the latest tegra2 build atm Aug 16 14:10:25 wow, thanks! i've spend the whole day fighting with dead links and old news, I never expected this Aug 16 14:13:47 BogdanV, best news are from http://trimslice.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=43 and http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Smart_TV_for_Trimslice Aug 16 14:17:39 BogdanV, what i s it? Aug 16 14:20:39 Huomenta, Stskeeps. Good to see you back! Aug 16 14:21:12 nothing, html. arfoll has helped me around and for the moment, i haven't met any problems Aug 16 14:27:36 ok good for you Aug 16 14:50:44 * CosmoHill returns with money Aug 16 14:51:36 hey I lost some money the other day, it looked exactly like the money you have now Aug 16 14:52:56 what currency was it in? Aug 16 14:54:02 it was numbers on pieces of paper, and in computer recors Aug 16 14:54:13 s/recors/records/ Aug 16 14:54:13 berndhs meant: it was numbers on pieces of paper, and in computer records Aug 16 15:26:38 * CosmoHill looks at biggirl2012 and gets his ban stick Aug 16 15:30:32 hey DawnFoster Aug 16 16:17:03 OBS is back up! Aug 16 16:17:17 yay Aug 16 16:18:20 good news indeed Aug 16 16:21:58 arfoll: did you get the link? Aug 16 16:22:55 collaborative apps ahoy! Aug 16 16:23:34 lcuk: \0 Aug 16 16:23:47 vgrade_at_sea: where are you sailing? Aug 16 16:23:55 vgrade_at_sea, \o Aug 16 16:24:01 ahoy indeed! Aug 16 16:24:04 cadiz to lisbon currently Aug 16 16:24:18 vgrade_at_sea, if I can move this from a prototype Aug 16 16:24:20 vgrade_at_sea: nice Aug 16 16:24:30 then that table full of meego devices you keep showing Aug 16 16:24:42 can all communicate and smile :) Aug 16 16:24:42 Stskeeps: hi Aug 16 16:26:06 lcuk: noticed your RFC, will have a closer look when I'm back Aug 16 16:27:22 Stskeeps: I've had a request for a MeeGo from nVidia Tegra Architect. Vincent. Have you taked to him Aug 16 16:28:39 MeeGo Image Aug 16 16:29:33 dam web client Aug 16 16:29:53 vgrade_at_sea, you are on a boat, it is understandable Aug 16 16:30:45 at 65c an min I expect a good connection Aug 16 16:31:05 heh Aug 16 16:31:45 anyway must log off as if Janice finds me in the internet room I'm toast Aug 16 16:34:04 vgrade_at_sea, no what link? Aug 16 16:37:24 damn i hate being late to the party.... Aug 16 16:40:28 looking at meego:1.2.0:oss package list.. damn there's a lot of crap/stuff Aug 16 16:40:44 * Stskeeps ponders what is truly needed to get qt + qt mobility up Aug 16 16:55:16 Stskeeps: how about a community proposal for a skinny MeeGo ... we could use a name that sounds MeeGo-ish but isn't trademarked. Maybe something smaller than MeeGo to indicate a slimmed down size? Me Aug 16 16:55:43 lbt: MiniMe? Aug 16 16:55:45 :> Aug 16 16:55:52 much too long Aug 16 16:56:31 yes, but http://www.fondosni.com/bulkupload/fonaunstip/Peliculas/Goldmember/Minime_800.jpg Aug 16 16:56:34 ;) Aug 16 16:56:40 how about Mo Aug 16 16:56:41 lbt: "Mer"? Aug 16 16:57:56 \o/ Aug 16 16:58:00 lbt: the thought really does pop up quite often by now :P Aug 16 16:58:35 MeNO CARRIER Aug 16 16:58:37 .. err Aug 16 16:58:45 ok, that modem joke didn't work out Aug 16 16:58:45 JFDI Aug 16 17:51:59 Hey all Aug 16 17:55:16 is there a way to dual boot maemo and meego without the use of a SD card? Aug 16 17:56:09 no Aug 16 17:56:44 ok, tks Aug 16 17:58:28 well, maybe Aug 16 17:59:08 okay... Aug 16 17:59:26 i mean it's probably possible, but you will have to figure out how to do most of it yourself Aug 16 18:00:01 i see Aug 16 18:08:15 mostly because the current installation process on the N900 eliminates the partition used for /home and /opt Aug 16 18:08:21 ls Aug 16 18:08:42 so you'd need to fix the partitioning issue Aug 16 18:36:01 OBS quiz: why is http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=gcc-cross&project=Trunk 'excluded' on both arm and x86? :) Aug 16 18:51:34 all: Aug 16 18:52:47 is alive? Aug 16 18:53:12 Stskeeps, not sure Aug 16 18:53:38 lcuk: i'm actually a bit stumped myself :) Aug 16 18:53:51 has it been like that for a while Aug 16 18:53:58 the source files look aged Aug 16 18:54:07 ok. i have question. Aug 16 18:54:07 and what is it actually used for Aug 16 18:54:19 since I gather things like gcc proper will be in there building somewhere Aug 16 18:54:32 not in use in builds, afaik Aug 16 18:55:55 i need bootstrap for armv7. mic-create-bootstrap not have arch param. it's use environment or something else Aug 16 18:56:04 exception13: you use x86 as a bootstrap Aug 16 18:56:06 ? Aug 16 18:56:22 yes Aug 16 18:56:27 host x86 Aug 16 18:56:32 target armv7 Aug 16 18:57:11 mic-create-bootstrap shouldn't be needed Aug 16 18:58:01 with mic-create-image i have trouble Aug 16 18:58:42 http://pastebin.com/YyjExGBa Aug 16 18:58:47 look at this Aug 16 18:59:35 maybe i fail in .ks Aug 16 19:08:28 i need preconfigured userspace with preinstalled tablet ux without platform depend components (kernel, nonfree) Aug 16 19:10:21 exception13, what previous .ks experience have you had Aug 16 19:10:27 ie, can you build the default images ok? Aug 16 19:10:50 i'm "fix" .ks for n900 Aug 16 19:11:14 remove any n900 depends Aug 16 19:11:24 but does the default n900 ks build is my question Aug 16 19:11:59