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Feb 08 01:36:05 <dzimet78> hello ^_^
Feb 08 01:36:14 <ByronT> howdy
Feb 08 01:36:53 <dzimet78> alright. trying out the unslung bios upgrade now, bbias
Feb 08 01:37:08 <ByronT> follow the directions word for word!
Feb 08 01:37:13 <ByronT> I should know...
Feb 08 01:37:28 <dzimet78> sounds like the voice of pained experience :)
Feb 08 01:37:58 <ByronT> :)
Feb 08 01:38:12 <ByronT> more of open mouth, insert foot really
Feb 08 02:48:02 <NoRemorse> hi all, I have an external USB2 250GB maxtor HDD, and I want to put it on a NSLU2, but I want multiple shares that are restricted to different users, will the default f/w do this or do I need to delve into changing the f/w please?
Feb 08 02:48:12 <ByronT> howdy
Feb 08 02:48:32 <ByronT> that's covered with basic Linksys functionality
Feb 08 02:48:43 <NoRemorse> different shares dirs and perms?
Feb 08 02:48:51 <dzimet78> heya Byron. how long would you say the upgrade should take? (3.18)
Feb 08 02:49:06 <ByronT> they would be considered as private directories
Feb 08 02:49:38 <ByronT> but yes, the basic functionality should be enough if that's all that you need
Feb 08 02:49:50 <ByronT> dzimet78, it can take a while..
Feb 08 02:49:59 <NoRemorse> ok cool thanks, and the format will be ext3 still?
Feb 08 02:50:01 <dzimet78> oh good. ;)
Feb 08 02:50:16 <ByronT> No, yes
Feb 08 02:50:23 <NoRemorse> thanks :) catcha
Feb 08 02:50:30 <ByronT> dzimet78, how long has it been going?
Feb 08 02:50:56 <dzimet78> since my last comment. about an hour?
Feb 08 02:51:01 <dzimet78> or maybe it just seemed like an hour.
Feb 08 02:51:04 <dyoung> too long.
Feb 08 02:51:12 <ByronT> ooooh...
Feb 08 02:51:23 <dzimet78> well, the red blinky bit is still going.
Feb 08 02:51:31 <dzimet78> how can I best use my unit as a doorstop?
Feb 08 02:51:40 <dzimet78> horizontally, or vertically?
Feb 08 02:51:49 <ByronT> no hd attached when upgrading, right?
Feb 08 02:51:53 <dzimet78> correct
Feb 08 02:51:55 <dyoung> Send it to me.  I have a door that fits a NSLU2 perfectly.
Feb 08 02:52:03 <dzimet78> heh.
Feb 08 02:52:34 <dzimet78> hrm.
Feb 08 02:52:45 <dzimet78> any suggestions as to what may have happened?
Feb 08 02:53:09 <ByronT> what kind of connection are you using to do the upgrade?
Feb 08 02:53:09 <dyoung> What method did you use?
Feb 08 02:53:27 <dzimet78> going through a hub.
Feb 08 02:53:39 <dzimet78> wired on both ends
Feb 08 02:53:45 <dzimet78> had no trouble connecting to the webserver
Feb 08 02:53:52 <dzimet78> but the unit had seemed a trifle flaky.
Feb 08 02:55:30 <ByronT> you tested redboot access... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash
Feb 08 02:56:02 <ByronT> and you can load the 3.18 firmware with the Sercomm utility
Feb 08 02:56:39 <ByronT> that's why we really really really try to get ppl to test redboot access first....
Feb 08 02:59:45 <dzimet78> heh. well - are there units where redboot does not work?
Feb 08 03:00:20 <ByronT> I don't know of any...
Feb 08 03:00:30 <dzimet78> Also, unrelated - what does the alternating red/green status readout indicate?
Feb 08 03:01:39 <ByronT> it sounds like something went wrong with the uploading of f/w from your computer to the sluf
Feb 08 03:01:45 <ByronT> err.. slug
Feb 08 03:02:19 <ByronT> SerComm should get you running pretty quick
Feb 08 03:04:42 <dyoung> Red/Green means your slug is still in upgrade mode.
Feb 08 03:07:03 <ByronT> dzimet78, how did you initiate the firmware installation?
Feb 08 03:08:44 <ByronT> or better yet, were you running Stock f/w and upgrading to 3.xx??
Feb 08 03:11:44 <ByronT> dzimet78, did we lose you?
Feb 08 03:21:25 * ByronT is away -( zzzZZZzzz )- at 05:21a -( P:On / L:On )-
Feb 08 03:25:29 <dzimet78> interesting questions. and now you went away :)
Feb 08 03:25:58 <dzimet78> answers being: yes, stock firmware
Feb 08 03:26:19 <dzimet78> and initiated via web interface. the readme indicated to go that route...
Feb 08 03:26:50 <dzimet78> but even before that point the unit was behaving oddly... staying in yellow during boot for inordinate periods of time
Feb 08 03:27:07 <dyoung> Disc attached or no?
Feb 08 03:32:11 <dzimet78> disc attached? no.
Feb 08 03:33:53 <dzimet78> also, now it arbitrarily detects or does not detect the network connection.
Feb 08 03:34:14 <dzimet78> and I'm kinda thinking it was doing that before, but I can't remember for certain.
Feb 08 03:35:29 <dzimet78> ...and now it boots fine.
Feb 08 03:35:41 * dzimet78 opens up Amazon's RMA page :p
Feb 08 03:37:32 <dzimet78> yeah. no changes to the firmware were made, apparently.
Feb 08 03:38:30 <dzimet78> i mean... does this sound at all familiar?
Feb 08 03:38:32 <dyoung> There have been reported issues with it being plugged to certain branded hubs
Feb 08 03:38:36 <dyoung> or switches
Feb 08 03:39:26 <dzimet78> an intel inbusiness 10mps hub? :p
Feb 08 03:39:34 <dzimet78> mbps also
Feb 08 03:39:48 <dzimet78> but even then - some of the issues are re: booting.
Feb 08 03:40:06 <dzimet78> that shouldn't be affected if the hub is the problem
Feb 08 03:44:16 <dzimet78> also, it would occasionally crash whilst I was trying to access redboot. anyway, I got an RMA label and requested a substitute.
Feb 08 03:45:45 <dzimet78> yeah. power cycled it just now, and it's hanging (yellow light)
Feb 08 04:02:56 <dzimet78> ...right :) g'night.
Feb 08 13:25:56 * ByronT is back -( zzzZZZzzz )- gone 10 hr 4 min 31 s
Feb 08 13:29:38 <ByronT> I would rant in here, but it would be logged
Feb 08 15:36:28 <ByronT> "Welcome"
Feb 08 15:43:05 <ByronT> ipkg -force-remove busybox
Feb 08 15:44:30 <ByronT> hello JefferyS
Feb 08 15:45:41 <JefferyS> Hello ByronT
Feb 08 15:46:17 <ByronT> I read your question in channel, what version busybox on you slug?
Feb 08 15:46:27 <ByronT> err, your
Feb 08 15:46:34 <JefferyS> I have both the origional busybox and the new 1.x
Feb 08 15:46:54 <ByronT> ok
Feb 08 15:49:09 <ByronT> there is a way to install coreutils over busybox, but I'm checking to see if busybox has later utils than core
Feb 08 15:52:26 <ByronT> ok... just checked slugbug and found that busybox and coreutils really really conflict
Feb 08 15:52:40 <ByronT> so you have to make an either/or choice
Feb 08 15:53:14 <JefferyS> I'm installing the packages on the NativelyCompileUnslungPackages list so I can compile programs
Feb 08 15:55:07 <ByronT> so you need coreutils more than busybox upgrade ipkg -force-remove busybox (check by looking at ipkg command at your slug)
Feb 08 15:59:50 <JefferyS> It says i have the current version of ipkg, but there doesn't seam to be a -force-remove option for it
Feb 08 16:00:11 <ByronT> one sec
Feb 08 16:03:14 <ByronT> ah.. -force-depends
Feb 08 16:03:59 <ByronT> "ipkg -force-depends remove busybox"
Feb 08 16:05:14 <JefferyS> It said No packages removed
Feb 08 16:05:33 * ByronT kicks at ipkg
Feb 08 16:07:48 <JefferyS> do you think that if I reinstalled busybox and then removed it, that it will remove all the files?
Feb 08 16:08:29 <ByronT> you certainly can try and there would be no harm in doing it that way
Feb 08 16:08:53 <JefferyS> ok, I'll give it a try
Feb 08 16:09:59 <ByronT> as you can probably tell busybox has been a PITA
Feb 08 16:12:13 <JefferyS> ya, its not being very friendly
Feb 08 16:12:20 <JefferyS> Installing busybox (1.00-6) to root...
Feb 08 16:12:20 <JefferyS> ERROR: Package busybox (parent busybox) is not available from any configured src.
Feb 08 16:12:20 <JefferyS> Failed to download busybox. Perhaps you need to run 'ipkg update'?
Feb 08 16:12:20 <JefferyS> An error ocurred, return value: -1.
Feb 08 16:12:34 <ByronT> you have run ipkg update, right?
Feb 08 16:13:14 <JefferyS> yes, ran it after I got the error then tried to install again and got the same message
Feb 08 16:13:27 <ByronT> ipkg update ran ok?
Feb 08 16:13:44 <JefferyS> yes
Feb 08 16:13:48 <ByronT> then run ipkg upgrade
Feb 08 16:14:14 <ByronT> get the latest of the latest packages on your system... then let's try removing busybox
Feb 08 16:15:26 <JefferyS> ok, its running, downloading a new bash, it may take a bit, on dialup
Feb 08 16:15:55 <ByronT> ah... I can relate.. I had to do a bk clone over dialup (120MB_
Feb 08 16:16:26 <JefferyS> ouch!
Feb 08 16:35:33 <ByronT> how are things progressing?
Feb 08 16:38:00 <JefferyS> it finished ok, but still can't install or remove busybox. I downloaded the busybox package file to see if it will install from that.
Feb 08 16:38:24 <ByronT> it's time to check depends...
Feb 08 16:38:53 <ByronT> possibly something else is depending on your upgraded busybox and as a result won't let busybox uninstall
Feb 08 16:42:35 <JefferyS> [18:11:37]- / >ipkg whatdepends -A busybox
Feb 08 16:42:35 <JefferyS> Root set:
Feb 08 16:42:35 <JefferyS>   busybox
Feb 08 16:42:35 <JefferyS>   busybox
Feb 08 16:42:35 <JefferyS> What depends on root set
Feb 08 16:44:57 <ByronT> try the ipkg whatdependsrec -A busybox
Feb 08 16:46:17 <JefferyS> same message as last one
Feb 08 16:47:21 <ByronT> ok... ipkg -force-overwrite -force-depends remove busybox
Feb 08 16:47:32 <JefferyS> I tried to list the files in busybox, ipkg files busybox, it came back with "Package busybox not installed."
Feb 08 16:48:08 <ByronT> yet when you telnet in, it shows busybox 1.##?
Feb 08 16:48:15 <ByronT> or busybox 0.6?
Feb 08 16:52:45 <JefferyS> I switch to using the bash shell on my login, but on root which i didn't change anything it shows the .6, I can change my login back to busybox to see if it shows the 1.0
Feb 08 16:53:01 <ByronT> ahhhh
Feb 08 16:53:21 <JefferyS> I know I had 1.0 before I switched to bash
Feb 08 16:53:33 <ByronT> you might need to work backwords
Feb 08 16:53:45 <ByronT> as bad as that would be (dialup)
Feb 08 16:55:03 <JefferyS> not sure what you mean by work backwords
Feb 08 16:55:29 <ByronT> remove bash, restore login shell to busybox
Feb 08 16:55:54 <JefferyS> oh, ok
Feb 08 17:21:13 <ByronT> uh... everything ok, or are you really messed up
Feb 08 17:21:51 <NoRemorse> hi all
Feb 08 17:21:58 <ByronT> hello
Feb 08 17:22:27 <NoRemorse> If I install a disk on the standard linux f/w, then I want to upgrade my f/w down the track to the project f/w, will my disk ahve to be reformatted or will the data appear on the new firmware?
Feb 08 17:22:55 <ByronT> you won't *have* to reformat your disk
Feb 08 17:23:15 <NoRemorse> but it would be a good idea?
Feb 08 17:23:38 <ByronT> it is a "pre-installation" consideration to use an unformatted disk...
Feb 08 17:24:10 <JefferyS> Well I finally removed busybox 1.0, but it is in a different spot than the .6 version, so I still have the .6 version. Do I need to manually remove the files for busybox, looks like mostly simlinks.
Feb 08 17:24:29 <ByronT> leave the .6 busybox!
Feb 08 17:24:44 <NoRemorse> ok, well if I use a project f/w that will still allow me to have multiple share dirs for different users (I assume there is one)? will I still be best to reformat the disk down the track whenever I use a new project f/w (say openslug?) ?
Feb 08 17:25:08 <ByronT> openslug is a whole different animal...
Feb 08 17:25:14 <NoRemorse> ok forget that.
Feb 08 17:25:26 <ByronT> unslung is more of Linksys functionality PLUS
Feb 08 17:25:43 <NoRemorse> yep, like vfat etc?
Feb 08 17:25:44 <JefferyS> coreutils is still complaining about busybox, should I have it ignore it?
Feb 08 17:26:00 <ByronT> JeffreyS, now you can ignore it
Feb 08 17:27:18 <JefferyS> Tthanks ByronT you have been a great help!
Feb 08 17:27:27 <ByronT> no problem
Feb 08 17:27:58 <JefferyS> Well time to take a break cya, and thanks again
Feb 08 17:28:12 <ByronT> time for me to head home...
Feb 08 17:36:59 <NoRemorse> hi again, I am trying to reflash my slug abck to linksys using sercomm, and it cant find the slug, does it have to be on 192.168.1.77 or 0.1 ?
Feb 08 17:37:24 <ByronT> uh... why use the sercomm utility?
Feb 08 17:37:41 <NoRemorse> cos I cant be stuffed firing up my laptop in linux mode?!
Feb 08 17:37:53 <NoRemorse> and gos the howto said I could!
Feb 08 17:38:00 <NoRemorse> *cos
Feb 08 17:38:20 <ByronT> you can use the web interface and just flash back the latest Linksys firmware
Feb 08 17:38:56 <NoRemorse> oh.. couldnt see where in the web interface... hang I'll look again :)
Feb 08 17:39:17 <ByronT> Administration, Advanced....
Feb 08 17:40:04 * NoRemorse blushes
Feb 08 17:40:19 <ByronT> it's much easier that way... :)
Feb 08 17:40:36 <NoRemorse> thanks :)
Feb 08 17:44:47 <ByronT> I'm out of here
Feb 08 17:45:25 * ByronT is away -( Gone for night! )- at 07:45p -( P:On / L:On )-
Feb 08 19:55:19 <NoRemorse> hi all, is there a utility to allow me to hook up an ext3 slug drive to a windows xp pc, but be able to wrute with cirrect permissions? if not, can I use one of the normal utilities that writes as root, then somehow change the permissions once back on the slug?
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