**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 23:59:57 2005 Feb 26 08:26:08 hi, i installed the latest beta and then installed CUPS but I can't seem to get at the web interface or install a new printer on my XP machine. E.g., when I point my browser at http://192.168.0.77:631 I get a '403 Forbidden' error. Any hints? Feb 26 11:28:11 hi all. any1 can check my homepage and tell me what setting is wrong? Feb 26 11:43:55 url? Feb 26 17:56:51 hi can someone please helpm me with a maxtor personal storage spindown issue? Feb 26 17:57:13 what's the problem? Feb 26 18:01:30 The wiki tells me of a utility on my maxtor cd that allows me to set the sp[indown, no such utility is there? Feb 26 18:04:34 I do not have that utility, but I would think that it would be downloadable from Maxtor directly Feb 26 18:10:33 NoRemorse, from the NSLU2-Linux mailing list (hosted at yahoo) - The installation program for the OneTouch utility is in the Feb 26 18:10:33 "Bin" directory of the OneTouch CD and is called, "SETUP.EXE". Feb 26 18:11:03 but it is also for the OneTouch drives... Feb 26 18:11:56 and as such may not be available (or work) on the Personal Storage drives Feb 26 18:21:28 ah that'll be it thanks Feb 26 18:21:42 so basicly, personals torage cant be set to spindown. Feb 26 18:22:03 they might be able to... Feb 26 18:22:17 yep but god knows how you would find out how to do it :) Feb 26 18:22:26 you might want to search the NSLU2-Linux newsgroup Feb 26 18:23:06 I seem to recall that someone took the HD out of the case and hooked it up directly to pc, ran a similar utility, reset the hd in the case and was able to get spindown Feb 26 18:23:19 tis wierd, same model formatted to NTFS connected to win xp spinsdown, but formatted to ext3 on the slug doesnt Feb 26 18:23:39 personally though, if it doesn't spin down on its own - or have such a utility, I'm not going to worry about it Feb 26 18:23:50 ah now theres a good idea. I'd be able to do that from linux using hdparm? Feb 26 18:24:09 search the yahoo mailing list... Feb 26 18:24:14 ok thanks cu Feb 26 19:26:49 welcome ;) Feb 26 19:26:53 hehe Feb 26 19:27:04 well? Feb 26 19:27:28 I guess I could paste my question over here.... hehehe Feb 26 19:27:44 according to what I read on that linked page, a rsync daemon is started if you specify a backup schedule Feb 26 19:29:49 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FixTheDriveBackupForUnslungFirmware <- at the bottom "...rsync daemon is automatically installed and started after reboot by..." Feb 26 19:31:10 so the daemon is actually running the san device? Feb 26 19:32:09 "san" device? Feb 26 19:32:37 storage area netork device = the nslu2. Feb 26 19:33:16 it does run *on* the nslu2 Feb 26 19:33:39 if you're running unslung, and you install it Feb 26 19:34:21 geesh... awesome. Wonder why Linksys doesn't do this out of the box? This should be a FAQ question I guess. Feb 26 19:36:09 funny note - stubs of Linksys' work showed that they tried to implement print server capabilities Feb 26 19:36:51 whereas with unslung and cups, that capability is now available... Feb 26 19:38:25 brb Feb 26 19:40:14 so, one of the two usb ports can be used to hook up a usb networked printer? Feb 26 19:40:28 back... Feb 26 19:41:05 I've got an HP DeskJet 970CSE hooked into "Disk 2" port and print to via any computer on my home network Feb 26 19:41:25 crap.... Feb 26 19:41:37 that's a compliment. Feb 26 19:41:58 Okay, I now have my next UCLUG linux presentation topic. Feb 26 19:42:24 I ordered two of these at newegg about 30 min ago and I'm just now wondering what the heck I ordered. Feb 26 19:43:01 they had refurb'd nslu2s for $69.19 earlier today at newegg... Feb 26 19:44:20 well, new 79.99 and 1.99 shipping isn't bad. I figure if my ruin on while doing a firmware upgrade I still have another. Feb 26 19:44:39 if I ruin one while... Feb 26 19:45:03 we figure somewhere around 700 known (counted unslung NSLU2s) - only 2 have been permanently ruined Feb 26 19:45:32 one on purpose - he was tracing the pcb and removed all chips with a heat gun Feb 26 19:46:09 and one via an experiment to increase the memory - and the modification went bad Feb 26 19:46:50 how much memory on one of these things anyway? Feb 26 19:47:21 32MB RAM, 8MB firmware Feb 26 19:48:22 I'm not trying to be a troll, I am reading your website... Feb 26 19:48:34 np Feb 26 19:48:52 it's better to get questions in here than tick off devs in -linux Feb 26 19:49:26 they're the good guys... Feb 26 19:50:20 looks like they're all asleep over there... Feb 26 19:50:37 hacking away hopefully. Feb 26 19:50:49 10 separate time zones... some are awake, some are just getting up Feb 26 19:51:02 yeah Feb 26 19:52:04 linksys 4.1 meg download verses an unslug download of 5.8 meg and you get amazing capabilies.... no brainer so far. What's the down side? Feb 26 19:54:31 a slight possibility of "bricking" your NSLU2... some more work to configure Feb 26 19:57:54 now, back to rsync. I now see I have to apply the package(s) I want, ie.: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/ipkg/rsync_2.6.3-5_armeb.ipk Feb 26 19:58:18 you Feb 26 19:58:32 grrr.. enter key is too close to ' Feb 26 19:58:45 you'll want to read through the README a few times... Feb 26 19:59:02 It would be helpful if this page list the memory requirements for each package: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/Packages Feb 26 19:59:23 you'll find it is extremely easy to install packages.... Feb 26 20:00:01 hmm... good suggestion, I'll forward it to package maintainers.. Feb 26 20:01:06 yeah... maybe after a flash, "You should have X megs left.... then if you install this ipkg then deduct Y megs.... etc" Feb 26 20:01:56 you only flash on a firmware install... the packages are installed/copied to the correct location (not flashed) Feb 26 20:02:09 right... Feb 26 20:02:41 I mean after a firware flash, you should start off with X megs free... available for packages. Feb 26 20:02:51 you can always check after you install and run, but it is a good suggestion for the package descriptions Feb 26 20:04:04 I got interested in this because microlite.com started backing up to san devices (but they still support tape). I'm campaigning to them to support rsync but they only do ftp right now. Feb 26 20:06:54 Also, the #nslu2-general needs to be on the homepage if #nslu2-linux is on there. That's why I ended up there first. Feb 26 20:07:09 link? Feb 26 20:08:12 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/HomePage Feb 26 20:08:39 yeah, I see that - but it also says development discussion, I'll make a minor change... Feb 26 20:12:38 Has linksys ever contacted your group before and requested a cease and desist on your project or are they fairly cordgial people? Feb 26 20:13:31 I would not know... but they are using GPL software and are required to publish their GPL based source. Feb 26 20:16:34 seems like they should do some monetary contributions to this project since unslung is undoubtedly increasing their sales. Feb 26 20:17:31 I would not disagree with that statement - I've personally purchased 4 NSLU2s. Feb 26 20:18:23 They could even use our source (published as required by GPL) to add in missing print server capabilities Feb 26 20:19:35 I vaguely remember a cups license change sometime back.... I'll have to check that. Feb 26 20:28:57 one other suggestion if I may? Feb 26 20:29:18 shoot Feb 26 20:29:28 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/InstallUnslungFirmware Feb 26 20:30:00 I'm hit with the term "RedBoot" without any clue to what that is. Maybe a sentence to explain that would be cool. Feb 26 20:30:03 deprecated... use the README that you get with the firmware download Feb 26 20:31:56 and that README tells you that you should test RedBoot Feb 26 20:32:09 and tells you where to read about RedBoot Feb 26 20:33:39 in fact, make sure that you read the README a few times through - it's easy to make a mistake, but not if you go step by step Feb 26 20:34:33 and README is only avail in the download - not on the site? Feb 26 20:35:14 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/SuggestedChangesToTheReadme Feb 26 20:35:48 those are the latest docs... (even later than the ones with the firmware) Feb 26 20:35:59 you can download and print those Feb 26 20:37:31 ok... that's a hard link to find to be such an important file. Should be in FAQ and Info's homepages. Feb 26 20:38:27 they're linked in multiple places - NewUsersGuide (which is actually the NOTES portion with some additional information) Feb 26 20:39:05 and of course, you get them IN the firmware.zip download Feb 26 20:39:32 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/NewUsersGuide Feb 26 20:39:46 which is linked off of the front page Feb 26 20:40:27 but you know new users don't read the new users guide! ;-) Feb 26 20:40:48 but they'd better read the README that *comes* with the firmware Feb 26 20:41:32 it's pretty simple formula... you don't follow the README precisely = goodbye working nslu2 Feb 26 20:42:56 not to be a prick, but I did see the NewUsersGuide earlier, and clicking on "Readme suggestions" really didn't conote the idea that I would be actually getting to the README itself. Feb 26 20:46:17 that's because the README is with the firmware, but I will make a note to the devs (as the README maintainer ;) ) Feb 26 20:49:12 cool, aren't you glad I showed up to pester the -general channel? Feb 26 20:49:50 this is the channel for pestering... but I can also get out the "big stick" :) Feb 26 20:50:35 that topic is for another channel... Feb 26 20:50:50 far away from here channel! Feb 26 21:04:31 all right, I'll probably be back when I actually get the units from newegg. thanks for your help. later! Feb 26 21:04:42 np **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 26 23:59:56 2005