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Mar 19 00:57:56 <ahmad> anyone using nfs on NSLU2
Mar 19 00:57:57 <ahmad> ??
Mar 19 00:58:52 <ahmad> is it safe to change the uid & gid in /etc/passwd & /etc/group??
Mar 19 01:00:21 <ahmad> or is there any other solution??
Mar 19 08:33:33 <mronnang> Anyone there (to help me a bit)?
Mar 19 13:40:15 <ronnis> Total newbie to the NSLU2 - but at least I've got TwonkyVision up and running by now.
Mar 19 13:40:33 <ronnis> Have a few questions though, if anyone's out there...
Mar 19 13:41:43 <ronnis> Noone there?
Mar 19 13:53:39 <caplink811-away> ronnis: what's up?
Mar 19 13:55:37 <ronnis> caplink: Hi! Well, a few basic (I guess) questions...
Mar 19 13:55:58 <caplink811-away> will try to find some answers
Mar 19 13:56:16 <ronnis> caplingk: Have I understood everything right that whenever I boot the NSLU2 with the harddisk plugged in, I cannot telnet to the NSLU2?
Mar 19 13:56:30 <caplink811-away> nope
Mar 19 13:56:49 <caplink811-away> if you boot without hd, telnet into
Mar 19 13:57:15 <caplink811-away> and then copy /etc/passwd -> /share/hdd/conf
Mar 19 13:57:27 <caplink811-away> then the root pw is uNSLUng
Mar 19 13:57:46 <ronnis> And will remain so even after I rebooted with harddisk plugged in?
Mar 19 13:58:21 <caplink811-away> sorry, forgot, telnet into, plug the hd in and then copy
Mar 19 13:58:49 <caplink811-away> in the moment, when you pluged the hd in the slug use the /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 13:58:59 <caplink811-away> stay
Mar 19 13:59:23 <ronnis> OK. So it would be like this:
Mar 19 13:59:37 <ronnis> 1) Boot without hd. Telnet into the NSLU2.
Mar 19 13:59:41 <caplink811-away> but, omho, the better way is, to add a user with the webinterface, and then change uid and gid to 0
Mar 19 13:59:59 <caplink811-away> s/omho/imho
Mar 19 14:00:09 <ronnis> Never thought of that! Good idea! Will try it right away!
Mar 19 14:00:11 <caplink811-away> 1) yes
Mar 19 14:00:36 <caplink811-away> and give the new user a shell and a home dir
Mar 19 14:01:20 <caplink811-away> what's about your expirience with *x ?
Mar 19 14:01:49 <ronnis> Poor experience with (all) unix (dialects), unfortunately
Mar 19 14:02:00 <ronnis> But I'm learning by the minute here! :-)
Mar 19 14:02:06 <caplink811-away> but vi and understance of dir and files is ok?
Mar 19 14:02:11 <ronnis> Yep!
Mar 19 14:02:14 <ronnis> (hope so)
Mar 19 14:02:15 <caplink811-away> fine
Mar 19 14:02:37 <caplink811-away> so, i think, add a new user in the webinterface
Mar 19 14:03:08 <ronnis> Done that
Mar 19 14:03:10 <caplink811-away> then edit /etc/passwd to change uid and gid to 0, and set the homedir and the shell
Mar 19 14:03:40 <ronnis> Rebooting the NSLU2 now (without hd).
Mar 19 14:03:41 <caplink811-away> plug hd in and copy /etc/passwd to /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 14:04:16 <caplink811-away> and /usr/local/passwd
Mar 19 14:04:51 <caplink811-away> so you have under all circumstance a user with root privilegs
Mar 19 14:05:17 <ronnis> Sound good - will see in a minute if I can get it to work...
Mar 19 14:05:31 <caplink811-away> if you want have telnet permanently enabled
Mar 19 14:06:04 <caplink811-away> you should divert rc.xinetd
Mar 19 14:11:01 <ronnis> Ok, so now I've rebooted it and logged in (but not changed the passwd-files). Time to plug in the harddisk, eh?
Mar 19 14:12:03 <caplink811-away> si
Mar 19 14:13:03 <caplink811-away> but, now ypu have to change /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 14:13:44 <caplink811-away> to something like that
Mar 19 14:13:52 <caplink811-away> joerg:sctGrN6AXXXXX:2000:501::/share/hdd/data/joerg:/bin/sh
Mar 19 14:14:13 <caplink811-away> where joerg is the user with root privilegs
Mar 19 14:14:42 <caplink811-away> where you shoud change 2000:501 to 0:0
Mar 19 14:14:45 <ronnis> +
Mar 19 14:15:16 <ronnis> The user I added was of course added to the hard drive (dummy, eh?)...
Mar 19 14:15:36 <ronnis> ...so I'm adding a new user in the web interface now?
Mar 19 14:15:42 <caplink811-away> add it when hd was plugged in?
Mar 19 14:15:55 <ronnis> Yep. Sorry!
Mar 19 14:16:05 <caplink811-away> np, save work
Mar 19 14:16:53 <ronnis> So I unplug harddisk again and add a user, the plug in harddisk. Run vi on passwd file and the added user should be there.
Mar 19 14:17:46 <ronnis> But if the harddisk ain't plugged in, then I cannot create a private folder for that user!
Mar 19 14:18:37 <caplink811-away> there are three palces, where copies of passwd exist, /etc/passwd (use without hd) /share/hdd/conf (use with hd) and /usr/local/ (as backup imho)
Mar 19 14:18:37 <ronnis> God - I'm feeling stupid here...
Mar 19 14:18:55 <caplink811-away> relax ;-)
Mar 19 14:19:02 <ronnis> Phew...
Mar 19 14:19:12 <caplink811-away> cool down
Mar 19 14:19:15 <caplink811-away> ;-)
Mar 19 14:20:03 <ronnis> OK - so now the harddisk is unplugged. I'm in the users page in the admin page and I'm gonna add a user. I won't be able to create a private folder for that user now. Is that correct?
Mar 19 14:20:25 <caplink811-away> hm, my error, pls wait
Mar 19 14:21:16 <caplink811-away> so telnet in, plug hd, wait 30 secs, add user via webif, the new user should be in /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 14:21:44 <ronnis> ok
Mar 19 14:21:44 <caplink811-away> so you can add a home folder too
Mar 19 14:22:00 <caplink811-away> or called private folder
Mar 19 14:22:56 <caplink811-away> if the user is in /share/hdd/conf/passwd, edit this passswd for your needing/needs
Mar 19 14:23:32 <caplink811-away> and copy it to /etc/passwd and /usr/local/passwd
Mar 19 14:23:44 <ronnis> Ok. So there I am! I change 2000:501 to 0:0 and /dev/null to /bin/sh
Mar 19 14:23:50 <caplink811-away> k
Mar 19 14:24:37 <caplink811-away> so you have 3 identical passwd files and you can use your user with/without hd
Mar 19 14:25:36 <caplink811-away> try than to login as the new user
Mar 19 14:26:43 <ronnis> Finally remembered the correct vi commands... so now I'm copying the passwd file to the other two places...
Mar 19 14:27:55 <caplink811-away> :-)
Mar 19 14:28:15 <ronnis> Should I reboot?
Mar 19 14:28:36 <caplink811-away> no, login will read he passwd every time a user logged in
Mar 19 14:29:12 <caplink811-away> s/he/the
Mar 19 14:29:15 <ronnis> OK. Doesn't work. :-( And in the web interface, all users (admin, guest, and my account) are all gone...
Mar 19 14:29:32 <caplink811-away> ?
Mar 19 14:29:55 <caplink811-away> 1. you add a user in the webif
Mar 19 14:30:08 <caplink811-away> 2. you edit /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 14:30:24 <caplink811-away> 3. you cp this file to the ither locations
Mar 19 14:30:29 <caplink811-away> 4. must work
Mar 19 14:30:39 <ronnis> 1-3: Yes! 4: No.
Mar 19 14:30:45 <caplink811-away> :-(
Mar 19 14:31:04 <caplink811-away> did you f5 in the browser?
Mar 19 14:31:17 <ronnis> Sure thing
Mar 19 14:31:26 <caplink811-away> grumpf
Mar 19 14:31:38 <caplink811-away> try to reboot, pls
Mar 19 14:31:50 <caplink811-away> with hd plugged in
Mar 19 14:32:32 <caplink811-away> and than try to log in with the new user
Mar 19 14:32:32 <ronnis> ok. will do. strange thing: my added user turns up as a group in the webif
Mar 19 14:32:51 <caplink811-away> probably an error in edit?
Mar 19 14:32:58 <ronnis> Probably.
Mar 19 14:33:05 <caplink811-away> erase a : to much?
Mar 19 14:33:27 <caplink811-away> ei northern europe time this evening ;-)
Mar 19 14:33:45 <ronnis> It's gonna be a looong night...
Mar 19 14:33:58 <caplink811-away> hm, nightshift
Mar 19 14:34:03 <caplink811-away> commodores
Mar 19 14:34:08 <caplink811-away> fine music ;-)
Mar 19 14:34:11 <ronnis> When rebooting now, no risk that I can't access the web.if.?
Mar 19 14:34:45 <ronnis> I.e. should I reinstall the firmware when I still can access the web.if.?
Mar 19 14:34:57 <caplink811-away> hm, pls control the passwd files first, i think, there is an error by editing
Mar 19 14:35:45 <ronnis> Can't really check the passwd files since I can't telnet into the NSLU2...
Mar 19 14:35:59 <caplink811-away> and, you can cahnge the password of root to a value that you know
Mar 19 14:36:14 <caplink811-away> ooh
Mar 19 14:36:24 <caplink811-away> telnet enable via webif?
Mar 19 14:37:29 <ronnis> Telnet is enabled. It's the user/password-combination that's the trouble. (Login incorrect)
Mar 19 14:37:52 <caplink811> k, you're too fast :-( my error
Mar 19 14:38:08 <ronnis> (Too fast for my own good, as it seems)
Mar 19 14:38:41 <caplink811> so, reflash... but, what version you're running?
Mar 19 14:39:05 <ronnis> V2.3R25-uNSLUng-standard-3.18-beta 
Mar 19 14:39:23 <caplink811> k, is maintenance mode possible?
Mar 19 14:39:37 <ronnis> Think so.
Mar 19 14:39:43 <caplink811> via webif?
Mar 19 14:39:51 <ronnis> Yes
Mar 19 14:39:54 <caplink811> k
Mar 19 14:40:26 <caplink811> so, imho, reflash, so that is all at new start
Mar 19 14:40:36 <caplink811> plug hd in
Mar 19 14:40:37 <ronnis> Will do!
Mar 19 14:40:43 <caplink811> add new user
Mar 19 14:40:54 <ronnis> Will try it all again.
Mar 19 14:40:58 <caplink811> edit /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Mar 19 14:41:14 <caplink811> and change root pw to the pw from your new user
Mar 19 14:41:42 <caplink811> so you have a new user with root privs and a known pw for root
Mar 19 14:41:55 <ronnis> Ok.
Mar 19 14:42:07 <ronnis> Both change root pw, and set 0:0 and /bin/sh for the added user?
Mar 19 14:42:44 <caplink811> yeah, normally use the new user, but if problems occurs you can logged in as root with the known pw
Mar 19 14:42:53 <ronnis> Great!
Mar 19 14:43:10 <caplink811> and copy the /share/hdd/conf/pw to the known places
Mar 19 14:43:44 <caplink811> means /etc/passwd and /usr/local/passwd
Mar 19 14:43:59 <ronnis> Ready for some bad news?
Mar 19 14:44:08 <caplink811> give it to me
Mar 19 14:44:25 <ronnis> Can't access the NSLU2.
Mar 19 14:44:27 <caplink811> the tv program is bad this evenin
Mar 19 14:44:37 <caplink811> oops
Mar 19 14:44:45 <caplink811> via webif?
Mar 19 14:45:09 <ronnis> It boots up ok, but I'm not granted access neither to the webif. 
Mar 19 14:45:48 <caplink811> have you try telnet into redboot before?
Mar 19 14:45:59 <ronnis> I can ping it. And it booted ok from the hard disk.
Mar 19 14:46:09 <ronnis> So I guess it's the redboot telnet now...
Mar 19 14:46:56 <caplink811> hm, have you the possibility to boot unix somewhere?
Mar 19 14:47:15 <caplink811> eg. knoppix
Mar 19 14:47:48 <ronnis> Have OSX on my mac
Mar 19 14:48:07 <caplink811> could the mac read an write a ext3 disk?
Mar 19 14:48:17 <caplink811> dunno?
Mar 19 14:48:34 <ronnis> Not by just plugging it in I think - hang on a sec.
Mar 19 14:49:04 <caplink811> as i said, the tv program is bad, this evening
Mar 19 14:49:23 <ronnis> Here too - just the Barcelona game, but nothing else...
Mar 19 14:50:35 <caplink811> so you can't access the hd from the mac?
Mar 19 14:50:44 <ronnis> But you can read ext3 on a PC with a plugin software
Mar 19 14:51:08 <caplink811> yeah, but what's about writing?
Mar 19 14:51:51 <ronnis> Ah, that's true...
Mar 19 14:52:30 <ronnis> I think I need a driver for the mac in order to read ext3
Mar 19 14:53:30 <caplink811> so, you might follow http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TelnetIntoRedBoot
Mar 19 14:54:00 <caplink811> and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TelnetIntoRedBoot
Mar 19 14:54:18 <caplink811> to flash the slug
Mar 19 14:54:41 <ronnis> Yep. That's the way it's gonna be. What was your plan for the os x reading/writing of ext3
Mar 19 14:55:01 <caplink811> dunno, i'm poor pc user ;-)
Mar 19 14:55:21 <caplink811> s/user7looser
Mar 19 14:55:42 <ronnis> :-)
Mar 19 14:56:16 <ronnis> I think I'll quit for tonight. I have to find the crossover cable - and I honestly don't know where it is at the moment. And it's after midnight here (as it is in Germany)...
Mar 19 14:56:33 <caplink811> you're english is quite fine, should be much better than mine
Mar 19 14:56:56 <caplink811> yeah, germany, but sweden is not so far
Mar 19 14:57:00 <caplink811> same timezone
Mar 19 14:57:18 <ronnis> Spent more time with English books than linux books, but it doesn't give me any help for my super-server-plans exactly...
Mar 19 14:57:40 <caplink811> what you're plans?
Mar 19 14:58:11 <ronnis> To have a Twonkyvision+iTunes+ftp server.
Mar 19 14:58:13 <caplink811> in the moment the slug streams mp3 for my noxon
Mar 19 14:58:34 <caplink811> tv is running fine on the slug
Mar 19 14:58:51 <ronnis> And earlier tonight it streamed nicely to my kitchen for my Streamium there.
Mar 19 14:58:58 <ronnis> Back in the old days...
Mar 19 14:59:05 <caplink811> itunes is not my favoured thing
Mar 19 14:59:52 <caplink811> yeah, bathroom, and sleeping room willbe the next ;-)
Mar 19 14:59:53 <ronnis> I like quiet computers. So I've got a Cube for surfing, mailing and a MacMini on it's way as a HTPC. For work I use a PC of course.
Mar 19 15:00:37 <caplink811> in german it is a cost of power problem, the slug is much cheaper than a pc
Mar 19 15:01:26 <caplink811> and a problem of loudness of course
Mar 19 15:01:47 <ronnis> We pay something like 0.07 Euro (incl taxes) per kWh here - prices have gone up rather much the last few years (it used to be 0.025E just a few years ago)
Mar 19 15:02:10 <ronnis> Loudness + electricity is my main issues (in that order)
Mar 19 15:02:18 <caplink811> a joke, i think, we're at .15 cent per kwh
Mar 19 15:03:51 <ronnis> That's amazing! That's really really to expensive!
Mar 19 15:04:16 <caplink811> so, cigarettes are of, program is bad, i will go to bed, and be right back at 12 am, if my wife have no other plans;-)
Mar 19 15:04:52 <ronnis> Thanks a lot for your assistance tonight. It didn't end happily, but at least I know my way around the NSLU2 better now.
Mar 19 15:05:13 <caplink811> :-) good night
Mar 19 15:05:23 <ronnis> You too!
Mar 19 16:39:37 <ahmad> hi
Mar 19 16:40:02 <ahmad> has anybody tried to connect a cd-writer with the nslu2??
Mar 19 22:21:03 <ak> hi
Mar 19 22:21:25 <ak> has anybody tried to connect a cd/dvd-writer to nslu2??
Mar 19 22:37:32 <ak> hello
Mar 19 22:37:34 <ak> ping
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