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Mar 22 14:18:11 <rabidfurball> hello everyone
Mar 22 14:19:22 <rabidfurball> anyone here?
Mar 22 14:21:21 <ByronT-Away> yep
Mar 22 14:21:33 <caplink811-away> si
Mar 22 14:23:25 <rabidfurball> kewl, im trying to get php to work with thttpd and can't find anywhere telling me how to do it... any ideas?
Mar 22 14:23:49 <caplink811-away> your customer..
Mar 22 14:25:35 <ByronT-Away> I think there are ppl running php but with apache - not with thttpd
Mar 22 14:25:48 <rabidfurball> apache has a funny error
Mar 22 14:25:52 <rabidfurball> too many open files or something
Mar 22 14:25:58 <rabidfurball> so i gave up on it
Mar 22 14:25:59 <ByronT-Away> hmmm...
Mar 22 14:27:12 <ByronT-Away> little distracted here.... doing some modifications to a gigabit switch and having to work with itsy bitsy wires
Mar 22 14:28:41 <ByronT-Away> since there are ppl who have gotten php tp work with apache (where as there isn't any mention of php and thttpd)
Mar 22 14:29:04 <ByronT-Away> I think your best bet is to get apache running... and then get php working with apache
Mar 22 14:29:40 <ByronT-Away> if the wiki doesn't give you enough information, go ahead and ask the yahoo group mailing list...
Mar 22 14:29:59 <ByronT-Away> but if/when you get an answer, you would be bound to update the wiki with your knowledge
Mar 22 14:31:40 <caplink811-away> after a quick look to acme.com, which is the home page of thttpd, found nothing about php
Mar 22 14:32:08 <caplink811-away> so, imho, there's not the possibility to intergrate php to thttpd
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Mar 22 14:39:35 <ByronT-Away> dang it... that's one way to destroy a fan
Mar 22 14:43:31 <caplink811-away> autsch,, the hardware guy is on work ;-) my dict keep silent, dang?
Mar 22 14:46:12 <ByronT-Away> self drilling screws that don't self drill
Mar 22 14:46:51 <caplink811-away> achso
Mar 22 14:46:53 <caplink811-away> aeh
Mar 22 14:46:55 <caplink811-away> ah
Mar 22 14:47:30 <caplink811-away> another way, to manage a switch
Mar 22 14:48:33 <ByronT-Away> I have a Linksys SD2008... very nice switch but louder than it should be
Mar 22 14:48:55 <caplink811-away> so you put a screwdriver in the fan, clever ;-)
Mar 22 14:49:08 <ByronT-Away> so popping heatsinks onto broadcom chip and replacing 6000rpm fan with a slower fan (but larger)
Mar 22 14:50:03 <ByronT-Away> none of these fans have tapped holes... so the threat of breaking the fan shroud exists (and happened
Mar 22 15:00:07 <ByronT-Away> ahhhh... sweet silence now
Mar 22 15:02:07 <caplink811-away> everything went fine
Mar 22 15:02:35 <ByronT-Away> except for the one dead fan
Mar 22 15:02:42 <ByronT-Away> I got two... just in case
Mar 22 15:02:50 <ByronT-Away> and it was a good thing that I did
Mar 22 15:03:43 <caplink811-away> long year expirience..
Mar 22 15:04:16 <caplink811-away> btw, chanserv works for me, use now the right channel name :-)
Mar 22 15:05:07 <ByronT-Away> that usually helps
Mar 22 15:07:04 <caplink811-away> si, have tonight a german gorx on irc, quite funny, nothing on head with unix, an dtry to install nfs for use with dreambox, round about for a week now, ts
Mar 22 15:07:52 <ByronT-Away> heh
Mar 22 15:07:54 <ByronT-Away> good one
Mar 22 15:08:36 <ByronT-Away> Gorx's problem wasn't so much that he was a newbie... it's that he wouldn't pay attention and try the things that ppl told him to do
Mar 22 15:08:42 <ByronT-Away> he always wanted the quick fix
Mar 22 15:10:52 <caplink811-away> nope, newbie isn't bad, but the ppl read or heard about slug, and than they tried everything, without any expirience, and without the will, to read or find out something about sthe background or the basic principles :-(
Mar 22 15:12:07 <caplink811-away> s/will/sake
Mar 22 15:12:58 <caplink811-away> but the guy have now much expirience in telnet into redboot, and reflash, didn't know what he have dnoe
Mar 22 15:13:28 <caplink811-away> s/dnoe/done
Mar 22 15:13:31 <ByronT-Away> that sounds just like Gorx!
Mar 22 15:14:06 <caplink811-away> not so bad, he's ?exerted?
Mar 22 18:55:41 <rabidfurball> so im still trying to get apache+php working
Mar 22 18:55:48 <rabidfurball> every time i try and start it:
Mar 22 18:55:51 <rabidfurball> # /opt/sbin/apachectl: [: Too many open files  # /opt/sbin/apachectl: /opt/sbin/httpd: Too many open files
Mar 22 18:56:00 <rabidfurball> any ideas?
Mar 22 18:57:35 <ByronT> just doing a google search... not finding much at the moment
Mar 22 18:58:44 <ByronT> oooh... can you check the permissions on /var/log
Mar 22 18:59:47 <rabidfurball> started playing with linux yesterday so um... how do i do that? :-)
Mar 22 18:59:59 <ByronT> ls -al /var
Mar 22 19:00:20 <ByronT> and look at the drwx...... beside /var/log
Mar 22 19:00:31 <rabidfurball> drwxr-xr-x 
Mar 22 19:00:49 <ByronT> hmmm...
Mar 22 19:01:17 <rabidfurball> and i dont know why it says that... because ive opened lots of other files since the first time i got that message
Mar 22 19:01:28 <rabidfurball> ftp, ssh, etc.
Mar 22 19:01:35 <rabidfurball> apahce just hates me.
Mar 22 19:01:41 <rabidfurball> apache*
Mar 22 19:01:47 <ByronT> it's not just you....
Mar 22 19:01:53 <rabidfurball> lol okay
Mar 22 19:03:37 <ByronT> I can't find anything initially (and I don't run apache)
Mar 22 19:03:54 <ByronT> your best bet might be to post to the yahoo group's mailing list
Mar 22 19:04:14 <rabidfurball> alrighty then, thanks
Mar 22 19:04:22 <rabidfurball> i can make do with thttpd for now :-(
Mar 22 19:04:28 <ByronT> but again... the responsibility is that if/when you get an answer, you're bound to post the information to the wiki
Mar 22 19:04:49 <rabidfurball> okay will do
Mar 22 19:05:11 <ByronT> I'm seeing that it could be a permissions issue
Mar 22 19:05:27 <ByronT> are you trying to start apache as root? or as another user
Mar 22 19:05:57 <rabidfurball> root
Mar 22 19:06:06 <rabidfurball> because i... dont know how to make another user yet
Mar 22 19:06:17 <rabidfurball> i know its bad to do that... but yeah
Mar 22 19:06:24 <ByronT> easy... just use the web interface
Mar 22 19:07:11 <ByronT> search the wiki, easy instructions there
Mar 22 19:07:14 <rabidfurball> oh another thing is when i add a user i cant access the private shares
Mar 22 19:07:29 <rabidfurball> even without unslung
Mar 22 19:07:45 <rabidfurball> i get this message um
Mar 22 19:07:59 <ByronT> that's weird...
Mar 22 19:08:29 <rabidfurball> \rabidfurball is not accessabile. you might not have permission to use this network resource.
Mar 22 19:08:51 <rabidfurball> multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using more than one user name, are not allowed
Mar 22 19:09:10 <ByronT> that's a computer based issue, iirc
Mar 22 19:09:23 <ByronT> running windows?
Mar 22 19:09:32 <rabidfurball> yup
Mar 22 19:09:43 <rabidfurball> happens on 3 different xp xomputers
Mar 22 19:10:10 <ByronT> hmmm... I haven't spent a lot of time dealing with users/groups
Mar 22 19:10:23 <ByronT> I just run nfs and smb insecure
Mar 22 19:11:05 <rabidfurball> i dont need it but... i was just wondering why it didnt work
Mar 22 19:11:37 <SeemenReise> pokepoke.
Mar 22 19:11:39 <SeemenReise> hey rabid
Mar 22 19:12:15 <rabidfurball> hello
Mar 22 19:12:44 <rabidfurball> okay so
Mar 22 19:12:57 <rabidfurball> fix my problem seemen
Mar 22 19:12:58 <rabidfurball> lol
Mar 22 19:13:03 <SeemenReise> lmao.
Mar 22 19:13:16 <SeemenReise> sounds like the other kind of "sea men"
Mar 22 19:13:19 <SeemenReise> anyway.
Mar 22 19:13:23 <SeemenReise> what's the problem
Mar 22 19:13:52 <rabidfurball> apache says # /opt/sbin/apachectl: [: Too many open files  # /opt/sbin/apachectl: /opt/sbin/httpd: Too many open files 
Mar 22 19:14:00 <SeemenReise> oh that
Mar 22 19:14:03 <SeemenReise> do you know what your filesystem is
Mar 22 19:14:04 <rabidfurball> when i do apachectl start
Mar 22 19:14:14 <rabidfurball> of the hdd?
Mar 22 19:14:18 <rabidfurball> ext3
Mar 22 19:14:33 <SeemenReise> haha. blech, i probably don't know then
Mar 22 19:14:35 <SeemenReise> have you googled yet?
Mar 22 19:14:53 <rabidfurball> yeah theres lots of errors like it but under different cicumstances
Mar 22 19:15:01 <rabidfurball> like when someones running 50000 programs
Mar 22 19:15:07 <rabidfurball> not like 40 like i am
Mar 22 19:15:22 <SeemenReise> try reducing the instances of the server running
Mar 22 19:15:25 <SeemenReise> it's in apache.conf
Mar 22 19:15:37 <SeemenReise> default is 15 listening connections or something
Mar 22 19:15:40 <rabidfurball> where is that kept
Mar 22 19:15:56 <SeemenReise> wherever apache is installed... like ... probably /var/www/apache/conf
Mar 22 19:15:58 <SeemenReise> or maybe in etc
Mar 22 19:15:59 <SeemenReise> like
Mar 22 19:16:04 <SeemenReise> '/etc/apache'
Mar 22 19:16:15 <SeemenReise> do you know how to use slocate and updatedb yet?
Mar 22 19:16:21 <rabidfurball> nope
Mar 22 19:16:24 <SeemenReise> okay, crash course
Mar 22 19:16:31 <rabidfurball> i dont know if it has that
Mar 22 19:16:32 <SeemenReise> locate is the too for finding files by finding name
Mar 22 19:16:43 <SeemenReise> it prolly has those... it sort of needs them for the os
Mar 22 19:16:45 <rabidfurball> it has find
Mar 22 19:16:49 <rabidfurball> but i dont know how to use it
Mar 22 19:16:50 <SeemenReise> it has locate, i bet
Mar 22 19:16:57 <SeemenReise> hell i don't even know how to use find... lol
Mar 22 19:17:00 <SeemenReise> i use the gnome search tool
Mar 22 19:17:08 <SeemenReise> every once in a while linux runs "updatedb"
Mar 22 19:17:13 <SeemenReise> updates the file database
Mar 22 19:17:27 <SeemenReise> if you need to find a file you've installed in the last five minutes or something you can run it yourself as root
Mar 22 19:17:41 <SeemenReise> so if you want to find everything related to apache, make sure you have the database and run 'locate apache'
Mar 22 19:17:44 <rabidfurball> # updatedb       sort: invalid option -- f
Mar 22 19:18:08 <SeemenReise> and blargh
Mar 22 19:18:11 <SeemenReise> you changed your pass didn't you
Mar 22 19:18:16 <rabidfurball> nope
Mar 22 19:18:25 <SeemenReise> oh oops
Mar 22 19:18:26 <SeemenReise> just kidding
Mar 22 19:19:38 <SeemenReise> lmao... this distro doesn't  even have whereis
Mar 22 19:20:02 <rabidfurball> it does i installed it
Mar 22 19:20:11 <SeemenReise> haha
Mar 22 19:20:12 <rabidfurball> but most things i installed cant be run from the command line
Mar 22 19:20:13 <rabidfurball> lol
Mar 22 19:20:14 <SeemenReise> 'whereis' whereis
Mar 22 19:20:15 <SeemenReise> =)
Mar 22 19:20:17 <SeemenReise> oh
Mar 22 19:20:20 <SeemenReise> add them to your path
Mar 22 19:20:25 <rabidfurball> how bout you do that
Mar 22 19:20:26 <rabidfurball> lol
Mar 22 19:20:31 <SeemenReise> EXPORT PATH=$PATH:/whateveryouwantappended
Mar 22 19:20:43 <rabidfurball> ?
Mar 22 19:20:43 <SeemenReise> make sure you keep the $PATH part in there, it makes sure you keep all your old path shit in
Mar 22 19:20:55 <rabidfurball> i ahve no idea what you just said
Mar 22 19:21:03 <SeemenReise> lol
Mar 22 19:21:04 <SeemenReise> sorry
Mar 22 19:21:08 <SeemenReise> wheres the whereis binary
Mar 22 19:21:11 <SeemenReise> and all the other thangs
Mar 22 19:21:22 <SeemenReise> this is what you have right now...
Mar 22 19:21:30 <SeemenReise> # echo $PATH
Mar 22 19:21:45 <rabidfurball> i dont know where things install lol
Mar 22 19:21:51 <SeemenReise> oh
Mar 22 19:21:57 <rabidfurball> and on the yahoo group they have another version of apache
Mar 22 19:21:59 <SeemenReise> prolly is .../usr/share/bin or something
Mar 22 19:22:01 <rabidfurball> but its a tar.gz
Mar 22 19:22:04 <SeemenReise> what's it called
Mar 22 19:22:06 <rabidfurball> and ill probably have to install it
Mar 22 19:22:09 <SeemenReise> yeah, you should get a compiler
Mar 22 19:22:20 <SeemenReise> download gcc... lol. never thought i 'd have to say that =)
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