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Jul 26 01:40:25 <klenwifi> anyone alive?
Jul 26 02:05:15 <Burton> anyone here knows how to use ctorrent?
Jul 26 02:10:00 <cocomp> Hi All, Quick question: I'm using a Western Digital Media Centre - a USB HD with a built in hub and Compact Flash / Smart Media etc reader built in - I've tried Unlsung - it recognises the HD, then un-recognises that and then recognises the (empty) CF slot instead. Will I need to go OpenSlug instead or is there anything I can do in Unslung?
Jul 26 03:35:28 <landslide> hey people
Jul 26 03:35:36 <landslide> anyone know the default (out of the box) root password for the slug?
Jul 26 03:44:40 <Ivanmarcus> I don't believe anyone does know it (password) - or wants to 'cos it could be a major security problem :-)
Jul 26 03:44:41 <landslide> hello?
Jul 26 03:44:50 <landslide> ah i see. ;)
Jul 26 03:44:55 <landslide> wouldn't be hard to crack though
Jul 26 03:45:07 <Ivanmarcus> yeah, every other box could be accessed..
Jul 26 03:45:09 <landslide> i don't have a usb harddrive with me atm :(
Jul 26 03:45:22 <Ivanmarcus> you can use a flash drive
Jul 26 03:45:28 <Ivanmarcus> but bigger than 256mb
Jul 26 03:45:40 <landslide> what about a 12 in 1 reader?
Jul 26 03:46:16 <Ivanmarcus> mmm, I've got one but never tried it - I seem to recall reading it will work but not sure what the drive would turn out to be!
Jul 26 03:46:35 <landslide> yeah true :)
Jul 26 03:46:39 <landslide> i'm trying with the sd now ;)
Jul 26 03:46:55 <landslide> i might just put the unlung distro on it outright.
Jul 26 03:47:00 <landslide> is it hard to backup the firmware?
Jul 26 03:47:28 <Ivanmarcus> that'll be interesting - be aware it'll format the sd if you put unslung on & use it as the main drive.
Jul 26 03:48:00 <landslide> yeah no prob
Jul 26 03:48:33 <Ivanmarcus> no it's not hard (from recollection!), I used one of the windows remote clients to do that - hang on & I'll see if I can find what it was.
Jul 26 03:49:33 <landslide> cheers.
Jul 26 03:49:42 <landslide> it wants to format my sd card.... is that right?
Jul 26 03:51:37 <Ivanmarcus> yep, it will want to format the card in slot 1, I've found what I think I used and if you search for a file called 'upgrade203.zip) it'll contain the necessary.
Jul 26 03:51:52 <rwhitby> cocomp: you will either need to recompile the Unslung kernel with a special case patch, or use OpenSlug (which will see both the HD and CF reader as two separate drives).
Jul 26 03:52:39 <cocomp> cheers
Jul 26 03:52:40 <Ivanmarcus> The setup instructions are pretty good, I just followed them through (carefully!) and all went to plan, both on the flash disk and a 'real' USB HDD.
Jul 26 03:53:32 <rwhitby> landslide: if you install Unslung you can always install stock firmware afterwards.
Jul 26 03:54:01 <cocomp> rwhitby: it sees the HD first in the logs, then the CF slot. Is there no manual way to get it to switch around - e.g. in an rc.local type approach
Jul 26 03:54:10 <Ivanmarcus> actually I can put that file up on my slug, which is on the net, if you want to download it.
Jul 26 03:55:13 <rwhitby> cocomp: nope, it's in the kernel in the scsi scan routines.  Linksys hard-coded it so that the drive attached to each port would always show up as the same drive.
Jul 26 03:55:27 <cocomp> ok
Jul 26 03:56:08 <rwhitby> (that's not the case for OpenSlug, for instance.  if you plug a drive into Disk2 on openslug, it will be sda, but then if you reboot with another drive in Disk1, then the drive in Disk1 will be sda and the one in Disk2 will become sdb.  Linksys obviously didn't want to deal with that, so hard-coded them).
Jul 26 03:57:15 <Ivanmarcus> landslide - if you want to grab that file then try http://kombi.ath.cx:5418/upgrade203.zip
Jul 26 03:57:27 <Ivanmarcus> let me know if it doesn't work.
Jul 26 03:57:52 <landslide> yeah didn't work.
Jul 26 03:57:56 <rwhitby> Ivanmarcus: is that file no longer on the SerComm site?
Jul 26 03:58:32 <Ivanmarcus> rwhitby - dunno, I had some trouble getting it at the time & can't recall now where from
Jul 26 03:58:52 <Ivanmarcus> so figure it's as easy to put it up here I guess
Jul 26 03:59:39 <rwhitby> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash
Jul 26 04:00:00 <rwhitby> which points to http://www.sercomm.com/web/download.nsf/cd9678c311095856482566a5000aac9e/7f17bf7344cfc12f482566aa00389845/$FILE/Upgrade_207_XP.exe
Jul 26 04:02:31 <Ivanmarcus> rwhitby - thanks, you prompted me to have a look at sercomm's site again & discovered that later file, I used the other one with no problems (win2k).
Jul 26 04:03:02 <Ivanmarcus> landslide - bugger, what didn't work? the format?
Jul 26 04:05:49 <andrea_> hi to all
Jul 26 04:06:03 <Ivanmarcus> g'day from down under :-)
Jul 26 04:06:09 <andrea_> i ve some question abount openslug
Jul 26 04:06:17 <andrea_> can someone help me ? :)
Jul 26 04:07:43 <rwhitby> andrea_: shoot
Jul 26 04:08:10 <andrea_> first one: are bluetooth dongles working on openslug 2.3 ?
Jul 26 04:12:09 <rwhitby> andrea_: yes, see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BuildABlueSlug and http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central/IMGP4012
Jul 26 04:12:24 <rwhitby> I can recommend the Linksys USBBT100
Jul 26 04:17:50 <andrea_> okbut isn't bluetooth support a default of openslug 2.3 ?
Jul 26 04:18:09 <andrea_> i see that bluez-* packeges are included by default... 
Jul 26 04:24:44 <andrea_> ....
Jul 26 04:26:38 <Ivanmarcus> landslide: you still about? Sorry 'bout that file - prompted me to see why it didn't work, seems I had a case setting wrong in my apache conf :-( all cool now tho :-)
Jul 26 04:33:47 <rwhitby> andrea_: yes, all the packages required are in the feeds for openslug
Jul 26 04:45:00 <landslide> yeah still here
Jul 26 04:45:07 <landslide> i just wired up the serial port and logged in..
Jul 26 04:45:13 <landslide> changed the root password manually ;)
Jul 26 04:45:39 <landslide> coming down now.
Jul 26 04:47:35 <Ivanmarcus> landslide: good show, I see it on its way, rhwitby has pointed out an updated version of that file on the sercomm site (althought that one was fine for me).
Jul 26 04:47:38 <Ivanmarcus> you'
Jul 26 04:47:55 <Ivanmarcus> you're keen doing it via the serial port!
Jul 26 04:49:38 <landslide> hehe ;) i'm an electronics tinker'er from way back
Jul 26 04:50:04 <landslide> i'm going to double the clock speed too
Jul 26 04:50:38 <landslide> spewing big time that they didn't run any of the other GPIO lines off the BGA.
Jul 26 04:50:41 <landslide> bastards ;)
Jul 26 04:51:16 <Ivanmarcus> haha, I used to be the same, guess as I get older I look for the easy way a bit more!
Jul 26 04:51:51 <Ivanmarcus> In fact the soldering iron rests a great deal more than it used to nowadays
Jul 26 04:52:23 <landslide> hehehe.
Jul 26 04:52:31 <Ivanmarcus> I think that speed mod looks good - I haven't done it yet 'cos of warranty issues, and I want to complete my testing of the wee beasty.
Jul 26 04:52:44 <landslide> i found a max3421 board at work, and brought that home tonight to wire up.. worked like a charm.
Jul 26 04:52:57 <landslide> hehe :)
Jul 26 04:53:38 <Ivanmarcus> heh, last time I did something like that I wired a few bc548's together!
Jul 26 04:53:51 <landslide> so is unslug a decent distro.. like do they have XFree for it yet ? ;)
Jul 26 04:53:54 <Ivanmarcus> only 'cos I was being a cheapskate and didn't want to buy a max232
Jul 26 04:54:01 <landslide> hehe.
Jul 26 04:54:21 <landslide> they're like 9 bucks here.. quite expensive... from the local electronics store.
Jul 26 04:54:24 <landslide> here is australia.
Jul 26 04:54:34 <Ivanmarcus> I think the history's on the website? I've only been playing with it over the last month or so
Jul 26 04:54:58 <Ivanmarcus> so can't tell you a lot about it really - I resell Linksys stuff and it took a while for them to get to NZ
Jul 26 04:55:07 <landslide> ah i see.
Jul 26 04:55:19 <Ivanmarcus> yeah sorry :-)
Jul 26 04:55:45 <landslide> hey no probs ;)
Jul 26 04:56:02 <Ivanmarcus> haha, actually I used to live in Perth so maybe that helps :-)
Jul 26 04:56:57 <Ivanmarcus> FWIW I've got apache/php/mysql/postfix etc running on the wee machine all with little hassle
Jul 26 04:57:43 <Ivanmarcus> uptime is good, and SAMBA seems to be working ok although the throughput is not exactly rapid - more of a limitation of proc speed methinks.
Jul 26 04:58:43 <landslide> sweeet
Jul 26 04:58:59 <landslide> yeah it's beasty little processor.
Jul 26 04:59:07 <landslide> equiv to an old pentium pro i guss.
Jul 26 04:59:27 <Ivanmarcus> yep, that 'overclock' should help
Jul 26 04:59:32 <landslide> so that upgrade utility someone sent me, can i use that to copy the flash of the slug to my pc?
Jul 26 04:59:39 <landslide> flash = firmware ;0
Jul 26 05:00:06 <Ivanmarcus> I seem to recall that's what I did - gave an option to save the existing I _think_
Jul 26 05:00:26 <Ivanmarcus> anything more than about 2 days ago seems to fall from my brain these days!
Jul 26 05:00:59 <Ivanmarcus> I expect the original firmware will be on the LS site anyway.
Jul 26 05:01:44 <Ivanmarcus> in fact it is - just checked.
Jul 26 05:03:44 <Ivanmarcus> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/network/NSLU2_V23R29.zip if you want to save a copy.
Jul 26 05:06:06 <landslide> ah thank you :)
Jul 26 05:06:16 <landslide> so are you running openslug or unslug?
Jul 26 05:07:21 <Ivanmarcus> Unslung 5.5
Jul 26 05:07:58 <Ivanmarcus> It seemed the easiest to get going, and was based on the original Linksys stuff
Jul 26 05:08:46 <Ivanmarcus> and as I wanted to test them for commercial use (with original firmware) then it made sense
Jul 26 05:08:55 <landslide> ok
Jul 26 05:09:21 <landslide> i was at linuxconf.au this year and andrew trigel (the guy that did samba) spoke alot about these devices being hacked.
Jul 26 05:09:33 <landslide> i think the WGT64 or something like that was hacked too
Jul 26 05:09:35 <Ivanmarcus> I might get another unit and try openslug in a while, from what I can see it is still get quite a bit of devel work.
Jul 26 05:10:06 <landslide> he was raving about the new samba4 code and how it'll outperform microsoft servers on a little NAS board.
Jul 26 05:10:07 <landslide> hehe
Jul 26 05:10:20 <Ivanmarcus> yep, the WRT54G, got a couple of them too - tend to use them when I need WAP's, I'd have liked to have heard Andrew, he's certainly a legend!
Jul 26 05:11:14 <rwhitby> I prefer the Asus WL500gx deluxe to the WRT54GS these days.
Jul 26 05:11:44 <rwhitby> Mainly cause we have ported the Unslung packages to the Asus router, and it also has two USB 2.0 ports (but the disk throughput is about half that of the slug)
Jul 26 05:12:09 <landslide> rwhitby: is the usb host crappy or something on that?
Jul 26 05:12:54 <rwhitby> Dunno.  http://wl500g.info is the place to ask that.
Jul 26 05:13:00 <Ivanmarcus> interesting, I've not used the ASUS, although I used to get a lot of their stuff - is there anything much you can do with them (apart from the wireless) that you can't with the slug?
Jul 26 05:13:26 <rwhitby> well, apart from the wireless and the four port hub, no.
Jul 26 05:13:46 <rwhitby> their stock firmware has some interesting usb webcam and motion detection stuff.
Jul 26 05:13:49 <Ivanmarcus> ah, thanx, saves me spending more on toys :-)
Jul 26 05:13:50 <landslide> if i can source some ram chips, i'm beefing/fattening my slug...
Jul 26 05:14:00 <landslide> anyone know of good surplus devices to steal ram from?
Jul 26 05:14:05 <Ivanmarcus> Oh, now I might have to spend, I'
Jul 26 05:14:15 <rwhitby> landslide: feel free to discuss hardware hacks in #nslu2-linux.
Jul 26 05:14:28 <Ivanmarcus> ve been keen on trying out the slug with a webcam but mebbe the ASUS is the way to go there.
Jul 26 05:14:30 <landslide> ok
Jul 26 05:26:15 <andrea_> a question to the chennel: i need to compile some libraries (openobex) not in openslug feed
Jul 26 05:26:24 <andrea_> is it very difficult ?
Jul 26 05:27:15 <Klendathu> not realy, i was just busy compiling something
Jul 26 05:27:29 <Klendathu> it's easier when you do it on the box itself, albeit slow
Jul 26 05:28:26 <andrea_> uhm...
Jul 26 05:28:26 <Klendathu> i just imported two packages: one through cross compiling with template.mk on a linux machine and one by compiling natively
Jul 26 05:28:50 <andrea_> but wht i need on the box to compile a library like it ?
Jul 26 05:28:57 <Klendathu> ehhm
Jul 26 05:29:08 <Klendathu> ipkg install crosstool iirc
Jul 26 05:29:29 <andrea_> but on the nslu2 or on my linux-desktop ?
Jul 26 05:30:05 <Klendathu> on the desktop it is rather easy: just follow the howto on nslu2 wiki
Jul 26 05:30:36 <Klendathu> natively it is almost the same, but you need to install crosstool-native
Jul 26 05:30:51 <andrea_> sorry Klendath, i can't find the right wiki
Jul 26 05:30:58 <andrea_> can you tell me the url ?
Jul 26 05:31:22 <Klendathu> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung
Jul 26 05:32:02 <Klendathu> what you do is this: go to some place on your desktop where there is enough free space
Jul 26 05:32:36 <Klendathu> type in export CVS_RSH=ssh
Jul 26 05:32:48 <Klendathu> and then: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/nslu co unslung
Jul 26 05:33:14 <andrea_> what i download with that ?
Jul 26 05:33:28 <Klendathu> you download a skeleton of all packages
Jul 26 05:33:42 <Klendathu> and with the skeleton you can add your own
Jul 26 05:33:48 <andrea_> of unslug ?
Jul 26 05:33:55 <Klendathu> or compile all existing packages - yes
Jul 26 05:34:16 <andrea_> but i 'd like to use openslug
Jul 26 05:34:27 <andrea_> as i need bluez components...
Jul 26 05:34:35 <Klendathu> gee i'm sorry
Jul 26 05:34:56 <Klendathu> can't help you with that, i'm afraid, i use unslung stuff
Jul 26 05:35:04 <andrea_> oh..
Jul 26 05:35:18 <andrea_> never experienced openslug ?
Jul 26 05:36:42 <Klendathu> no
Jul 26 05:36:56 <Klendathu> i just started with nslu2 and choose unslung
Jul 26 05:37:48 <Klendathu> my server should replace a loud Dell running rh9
Jul 26 05:37:59 <Klendathu> so i only need imap, etc.
Jul 26 05:44:40 <andrea_> ah ok
Jul 26 05:44:44 <andrea_> thanks 
Jul 26 05:47:31 <rwhitby-away> andrea_: wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile
Jul 26 06:25:25 <landslide> is it worth using ext3 on a sd flash disk?
Jul 26 06:25:27 <landslide> 1gb.
Jul 26 06:28:08 <andrea_> sorry, here again
Jul 26 06:58:15 <landslide> i've currently installed openslug, should I have installed unslung if I wanted to get a vast array of pre-built packages?
Jul 26 07:12:34 <landslide> anyone able to give me a hand using my 1gb sd card (which is mountable) as a root filesystem under openslug?
Jul 26 07:59:49 <rwhitby> landslide: turnup
Jul 26 08:51:40 <landslide> thanks :)
Jul 26 09:59:50 <BeBoxer> Is there a 'top' type package in ipkg? 
Jul 26 10:00:23 <caplink811_log> BeBoxer, ?
Jul 26 10:01:45 <BeBoxer> Something which gives a nice diplay of memory usage, running processes, etc?
Jul 26 10:02:08 <caplink811_log> top , which should be in procps
Jul 26 10:03:03 <BeBoxer> That's the one. Thanks!
Jul 26 11:53:02 <Burton> what is the delete -command in telnet?
Jul 26 12:19:55 <caplink811_log> rm...
Jul 26 12:25:15 <Burton> ok, how do I delte a directory?
Jul 26 12:27:12 <Burton> guessing rmdir
Jul 26 12:27:15 <Burton> right?
Jul 26 12:29:09 <Burton> how do I delete a directory if it is not empety?
Jul 26 13:02:59 <BeBoxer> 'rm -r dirname' will do a recursive delete of a directory
Jul 26 13:04:03 <BeBoxer> be careful. it'll break things pretty bad if done on an important directory
Jul 26 13:45:30 <Klendathu> cyrus-imapd knowledge around today?
Jul 26 13:45:42 <Klendathu> pretty complicated stuff
Jul 26 16:07:22 <Burton> anyone here using their slug to download torrents?
Jul 26 18:35:00 <listerinereborn> hello
Jul 26 18:50:57 <BeBoxer> Greetings,
Jul 26 18:51:23 <BeBoxer> does anybody know how to change the smb.conf and have the changes stick?
Jul 26 18:51:59 <BeBoxer> I want to change the 'create mask' setting, but the smb.conf file get recreated at reboots I think.
Jul 26 23:36:36 <raungst> hello
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