**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 04 23:59:56 2005 Aug 05 02:18:38 i Aug 05 02:18:40 i'm here Aug 05 02:18:41 Airw0lf: unslung or openslug? Aug 05 02:18:46 unslung Aug 05 02:19:17 Airw0lf: /opt/etc/init.d/SXXfoo are the package startup scripts Aug 05 02:19:38 Or you can do a diversion script in /unslung if that's more appropriate Aug 05 02:19:54 ah yes...i can see the sshd startup script here Aug 05 02:20:06 so i make a file with any name and put my script in there? Aug 05 02:20:29 yep, the number identifies the order Aug 05 02:20:48 oh right...so if my sshd is S40 Aug 05 02:20:56 would S50 come after? Aug 05 02:21:00 make sure it uses the same structure as the sshd script - it is a defined structure and is called with specific arguments Aug 05 02:21:09 yes, 50 after 40 Aug 05 02:21:38 right...as for the script structure...all i want is to call 'ddclient' Aug 05 02:21:47 ddclient has its own conf file which does the rest Aug 05 02:22:45 so i think /opt/bin/ddclient should do it Aug 05 02:23:04 is there a ddclient package? Aug 05 02:23:48 nope, it's a perl script Aug 05 02:23:55 so i installed the perl package Aug 05 02:24:05 then i configured ddclient and tested it out Aug 05 02:24:11 now i want to make it a startup daemon Aug 05 02:24:23 i think everything should work now Aug 05 02:27:07 thanks for the help... Aug 05 02:27:54 it could be made into a optware package with the startup script with it. let me know if you want to try and package it up. Aug 05 02:28:30 i will test it out for a few days, and i'll get back to u. i'll be idling here quite often from now on :) Aug 05 02:30:18 what is optware by the way? Aug 05 02:30:32 is that the type of package 'ipkg' uses? Aug 05 02:34:37 that's very weird Aug 05 02:34:53 i can't execute my script - i get 'permission denied' Aug 05 02:35:08 chmod 755 script Aug 05 02:35:21 damn i never knew that :) Aug 05 02:35:25 optware is the new name for unslung packages. they work on wl500g as well Aug 05 02:36:00 BTW, nslu2-linux is usually reserved for developer questions rather than end-use questions. Aug 05 02:36:26 rwhitby: i should know better, but i asked there because there was more chatter there :) Aug 05 02:36:34 that Aug 05 02:36:44 that's why I try and direct the chatter here :-) Aug 05 02:37:17 btw, i am noticing that the time on my NSLU changes every time i reboot Aug 05 02:37:24 the timezone is unchanged Aug 05 02:37:30 I would love to have a group of "second-tier" developers/users hanging out in here and working out how to make things easier for the novice user, for instance. Aug 05 02:38:00 i'm hanging out here now that i've got my unslung going, i can try and help a few ppl Aug 05 02:38:15 me too Aug 05 02:38:17 morning Aug 05 02:38:31 but i will leave for holiday tomorrow :-) Aug 05 02:39:16 have any of you guys had any problems with the system time? Aug 05 02:39:41 Airw0lf: that great that you are going to hang out here and help Aug 05 02:39:57 yeah, the clock is stuffed. Aug 05 02:39:59 Airw0lf, i run an ntpd daemon Aug 05 02:40:09 oh so it's a known issue... Aug 05 02:40:20 from S79ntp or so which also sets the hwtick Aug 05 02:40:35 hangon... Aug 05 02:40:35 in future i won't reboot that often anyway so it doesn't matter Aug 05 02:41:15 -bash-2.05b# more /opt/etc/init.d/S77ntp Aug 05 02:41:15 #!/bin/sh Aug 05 02:41:15 if [ -n "`pidof ntpd`" ]; then Aug 05 02:41:16 /bin/killall ntpd 2>/dev/null Aug 05 02:41:18 fi Aug 05 02:41:24 if [ ! -d /var/spool/ntp ] ; then Aug 05 02:41:26 mkdir -p /var/spool/ntp Aug 05 02:41:28 fi Aug 05 02:41:32 /opt/bin/tickadj 10000 Aug 05 02:41:34 /opt/bin/ntpdate -b -s ntp0.nl.net Aug 05 02:41:38 /opt/bin/ntpd -c /opt/etc/ntp/ntp.conf -f /var/spool/ntp/ntp.drift -s /var/spool/ntp -k /opt/etc/ntp -l /var/spool/ntp/ntp.log Aug 05 02:41:55 so the idea is: set the hw tick, sync with a local time server (in .nl) and run ntpd Aug 05 02:42:09 what is the hw tick? Aug 05 02:42:13 it is now in sync all the time Aug 05 02:42:19 it's a timer in the kernel Aug 05 02:42:28 the linksys timer is way off Aug 05 02:42:43 the hw timer is way off?? Aug 05 02:42:47 yes Aug 05 02:42:50 lol Aug 05 02:43:06 doesn't that screw up other programs? Aug 05 02:43:09 the clock gives interrupts and it's too often or too little Aug 05 02:43:51 well not really, it's just running too fast so the ntp daemon refuses to sync with 'outside' servers Aug 05 02:44:19 i don't know if that also happens with linksys firmware Aug 05 02:44:35 but with unslung you have to set the tickadj variable Aug 05 02:45:25 but say i set the time...and don't reboot my machine for a week. will the time still get out of sync? Aug 05 02:46:13 http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/Admin/NTP/ntp-4.0.92e/tickadj.htm Aug 05 02:46:32 eehhr if you don't set the tickadj command? yes Aug 05 02:46:37 i think so Aug 05 02:47:14 interesting... Aug 05 02:47:44 it's really worthwhile to use ntpd Aug 05 02:48:02 yeah i agree, but a lot of effort for a lousy clock :) Aug 05 02:48:04 here's the last line of the ntp.log: Aug 05 02:48:14 4 Aug 03:08:13 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.10.208.72, stratum=2 Aug 05 02:48:14 4 Aug 04:16:31 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.84.46.114, stratum=1 Aug 05 02:48:14 4 Aug 04:33:35 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.10.208.72, stratum=2 Aug 05 02:48:14 4 Aug 07:24:19 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.84.46.114, stratum=1 Aug 05 02:48:14 4 Aug 07:49:33 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.10.208.72, stratum=2 Aug 05 02:48:15 4 Aug 07:56:59 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.84.46.114, stratum=1 Aug 05 02:48:19 4 Aug 07:58:27 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.10.208.72, stratum=2 Aug 05 02:48:21 4 Aug 08:49:37 ntpd[2162]: synchronized to 213.84.46.114, stratum=1 Aug 05 02:48:32 it's adjusting the clock with every line Aug 05 02:48:41 so that's a lot of adjustmenst :-) Aug 05 02:48:56 adjusting means that it is about half a second of Aug 05 02:49:15 that's a lot of adjustment, yup Aug 05 02:49:47 on average it is about twice a day, after carefull reading of the logfile Aug 05 02:49:54 what does the stuff in your S77ntp script mean....all the if statements Aug 05 02:50:16 well, the first one is to kill the old daemon Aug 05 02:50:36 type in: pidof sshd Aug 05 02:50:38 is killing the old daemon necessary? when you reboot the old one is dead right? Aug 05 02:51:08 yes but these scripts should also run interactively when you want to test something Aug 05 02:51:19 pidof sshd gives 415 425 Aug 05 02:51:30 415 is the daemon i think, and 425 is my ssh session Aug 05 02:51:38 say that you install ntp, you don't want to reboot, so you just type in, as root /opt/etc/init.d/S77ntp Aug 05 02:51:42 yes Aug 05 02:51:52 so pidof returns a list of process-id's Aug 05 02:51:58 and kill kills them Aug 05 02:52:32 and the second if makes a directory for ntp loggin? Aug 05 02:52:37 logging Aug 05 02:52:38 if you typ in unix a command between backquotes (`) it will be executed first and the output fed/replaced into the enclosing command Aug 05 02:52:47 yes if it's not already there Aug 05 02:53:18 and why did you choose 10000 for your tickadj value Aug 05 02:53:29 because i read that in the wiki :-) Aug 05 02:53:30 hangon... Aug 05 02:53:37 oh is it in the wiki... Aug 05 02:53:57 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SetUpAnNtpServer Aug 05 02:55:05 the ntpdate command is used to set the clock right directly, so not using all kinds of slow algorithms Aug 05 02:55:24 in fact, if you would run the ntpdate command every hour, you would be fine as well Aug 05 02:55:54 you don't need an ntp daemon (time server) unless you want one in your local lan, for other PC's to sync with Aug 05 02:56:25 all i would need is to make sure that the NSLU has the right time Aug 05 02:56:47 there's an awful lot to tell about ntp, it's incredible complex for what basically is a stupid thing: kepeing the time right Aug 05 02:56:55 yeah lol Aug 05 02:57:08 keeping date/time on computers is ridiculous Aug 05 02:58:15 so, you should either run ntp as a daemon or run the ntpdate command every so often, like once a day or once an hour Aug 05 02:58:27 the latter can be done with a crontab script Aug 05 02:58:39 hmm yes i could use cron Aug 05 02:58:40 but I decided to run the daemon Aug 05 02:58:58 since I serve the time on my local lan for all other pc's Aug 05 02:59:17 gotta go down, back in an hour Aug 05 02:59:25 later Aug 05 03:11:38 hi everyone Aug 05 03:12:09 i'm planning to buy a NSLU2, but before i have some question Aug 05 03:12:43 I've got a NTFS USB2 hard drive, and i've read that some firmware can read it Aug 05 03:13:00 i don't mind writting on the drive so that would be perfect for me Aug 05 03:13:39 but i'm quite a linux newbie, so i wanted to know what are the requirement to update the firmware on the NSLU2 Aug 05 03:14:27 i've read that i need a ext3 hard drive before i can update...is that true ? Aug 05 03:15:07 please, don't hesitate to contact me by email (rasavibes at yahoo.fr). Aug 05 03:16:00 or on yahoo messenger.... Aug 05 03:22:54 hi Aug 05 03:23:18 rasavibes: for the NSLU2 to use your hdd, it will have to format it first Aug 05 03:23:39 it will format it to the correct file system when you set it up for the first time Aug 05 03:42:29 correct Aug 05 03:42:40 and that is also with linksys firmware Aug 05 03:43:11 so it would always be formatted first Aug 05 03:54:23 is there anyone here ? Aug 05 03:58:00 yes Aug 05 03:59:47 Airw0lf: hello Aug 05 04:00:01 hi Aug 05 04:00:23 do you know whether we can install any (ssl) ftp client on nslu2 ? Aug 05 04:00:33 ftp client? not server Aug 05 04:00:44 not server Aug 05 04:01:15 it should be possible Aug 05 04:01:38 unslung has a package list...let me check Aug 05 04:01:53 ncftp - A user friendly FTP client with background spooling Aug 05 04:02:09 but there is no mention about ssl support Aug 05 04:02:47 yes that's what i just found too Aug 05 04:03:07 however, you may be able to use a tunneling program to use ssl Aug 05 04:03:33 because openssl is a package Aug 05 04:03:54 ic Aug 05 04:04:22 can i axx to nslu2 without having hdd enclsoure attach to it ? Aug 05 04:04:42 to install unslung you will really need a hdd Aug 05 04:04:49 u need a hdd to store the packages Aug 05 04:05:19 okie, so it meant i cant hook up 2 printers to it then ? Aug 05 04:05:22 if you don't install any packages u can use unslung after flashing the firmware...but it will be pretty limited Aug 05 04:05:33 do you mean 2 usb printers? Aug 05 04:05:46 yep Aug 05 04:05:58 i am not sure if that is supported... Aug 05 04:06:06 ic Aug 05 04:06:09 but i am new at using unslung Aug 05 04:06:14 i just have 1 hdd attached Aug 05 04:06:30 ic Aug 05 04:06:50 what I have in mind is to have an ssl ftp client running on it Aug 05 04:07:04 and have a printer attach to it forn ow Aug 05 04:07:25 but if u have no hdd, how can you d/l using ftp? Aug 05 04:08:02 i will attach an hdd there too Aug 05 04:08:13 right Aug 05 04:08:14 so first step is to get ftp client running Aug 05 04:08:42 i am pretty sure you can do ftp over ssl. it might take a bit of effort, but i think it should be possible Aug 05 04:09:05 yep i hope so man :) Aug 05 04:09:31 do you have any good ftp client there ? Aug 05 04:09:35 if there are ssl ftp clients written in java, python or perl - then you can use those Aug 05 04:09:43 ah nice Aug 05 04:09:54 because u can install perl/java/python Aug 05 04:10:03 i installed perl today, had no problems Aug 05 04:10:15 latest version ? Aug 05 04:10:32 i don't think it's the very latest...but fairly new Aug 05 04:10:49 k Aug 05 04:11:07 5.8.6.3 Aug 05 04:12:11 Q. Does NcFTP support any secure FTP modes a la SFTP/SSL/SSH Tunnels? Aug 05 04:12:11 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jfxp/ Aug 05 04:12:11 A. NcFTP does not have any built-in support for encryption or secure FTP of any type. We do not support any type of interaction with hacks such as FTP over SSH tunnels. We may implement a secure FTP mode at a future date, but please do not ask for an ETA. Aug 05 04:12:18 try that link Aug 05 04:12:33 thx Aug 05 04:12:52 java ftp/fxp client, supports SSL Aug 05 04:12:53 very nice one Airw0lf Aug 05 04:13:03 look around on sf.net - there should be something u can use Aug 05 04:13:06 hope i can install it on nslu2 :) Aug 05 04:13:20 the tricky part might be the gui, if your program is not command line Aug 05 04:13:35 i know u can export x-windows over ssh Aug 05 04:13:45 u meant vnc ? Aug 05 04:13:59 hmm, that's tricky man Aug 05 04:14:04 i don't think u can vnc using the NSLU Aug 05 04:14:09 it has to be something like ssh Aug 05 04:14:20 ssh is perfect for command line stuff Aug 05 04:14:30 yep, but as u know ssh is no good Aug 05 04:14:36 one i turn off the ssh windows Aug 05 04:14:39 the connection would stop Aug 05 04:14:51 hehe that is true...i am looking for a solution to that Aug 05 04:14:57 :) Aug 05 04:15:07 i wanna use this little box as my leeching box :D Aug 05 04:15:31 in linux it is possible to "background" a process using something like 'nohup' Aug 05 04:15:57 i haven't tried it yet, but have been reading about it Aug 05 04:16:07 yep i know there is that Aug 05 04:16:18 but whether it still works when u disc Aug 05 04:17:07 if you read the documentation for nohup, it's technically possible Aug 05 04:17:56 let me fireup my Fedora Aug 05 04:20:14 Airw0lf: let say it works Aug 05 04:20:20 come back to x-windows over ssh Aug 05 04:20:27 is that possible ? Aug 05 04:20:32 i know that is definitely possible Aug 05 04:20:42 i have done it at work using a program called winaxe Aug 05 04:20:46 that program is not free... Aug 05 04:20:52 there is also a free app Aug 05 04:20:58 hehe it's not gonna be a prooblem :) Aug 05 04:21:12 mixserver 5.6 - that is free Aug 05 04:21:18 aight Aug 05 04:21:33 okie Airw0lf let me build a scenario here Aug 05 04:21:40 u simply need to tell putty or something to forward the x-windows traffic onto another port Aug 05 04:21:49 then the xwindow program catches and displays Aug 05 04:21:58 aight Aug 05 04:22:02 let say Aug 05 04:22:39 i connect thru putty, export x-windows, then lanuch wlfxp into background Aug 05 04:22:51 yup :) Aug 05 04:22:55 let say at this stage i have axx to gui interface of wlfxp Aug 05 04:23:00 ok Aug 05 04:23:10 when i disc the from ssh, will the program still running ? Aug 05 04:23:24 yes, assuming the background launch succeeds Aug 05 04:23:43 it looks good to me Aug 05 04:23:44 definition of 'nohup' Aug 05 04:23:47 "Run a command immune to hangups, runs the given COMMAND with hangup signals ignored, so that the command can continue running in the background after you log out." Aug 05 04:24:14 nice Aug 05 04:24:18 but if you have fedora, u should try nohup and see if it works Aug 05 04:24:20 Airw0lf: do you wanna try first ? lol :) Aug 05 04:24:30 hehe sure man Aug 05 04:24:38 hehe i can't, i don't have a linux machine here Aug 05 04:24:54 hehe, well thx lots for your help Aug 05 04:24:56 and to use nohup on the NSLU, i think i'll need to compile nohup or something Aug 05 04:24:59 i am gonna try it tomorrow Aug 05 04:25:07 so i am still thinking about it Aug 05 04:25:34 okie, let me see what ineed to install Aug 05 04:26:01 do you know whether wlfxp comes with ssl already / Aug 05 04:26:02 ? Aug 05 04:26:10 that i don't know... Aug 05 04:26:21 but either way it should be ok if u install openssl Aug 05 04:26:28 yep gonna do that Aug 05 04:27:48 let get wlfxp install on fedora ;) Aug 05 04:28:16 hehe yup Aug 05 04:28:33 but if you have a fedora machine, u don't need to waste time with winaxe or anything Aug 05 04:28:57 for windows you have to go through the hassle of winaxe Aug 05 04:29:15 hehe :) Aug 05 04:32:16 time for me to log off...c u Aug 05 04:32:54 aight later Airw0lf Aug 05 04:33:08 might see u here some other time... Aug 05 04:33:12 hopefully that will work Aug 05 04:37:19 yep man :) hope so Aug 05 09:35:04 ByronT, i got in to RedBoot.... Aug 05 09:35:25 problem on rh7.3 server is that ip aliasing was not compiled into the kernel... Aug 05 09:36:06 problem on gentoo laptop was the lagging telnet, which i fixed by emerging a different package (netkit-telnetd instead of the telnet-bsd i had used before) Aug 05 09:36:32 i tried the arping/telnet cmd and got in the first time! (after all those many practices, you'd think so) Aug 05 09:38:18 i did the fis... step, then the reset step, and the slug booted, so i gather that i am good to go ahead on. Thanks for the help! Aug 05 09:39:00 woot! Aug 05 09:39:51 after the reset sys conf, the slug is now on a known ip at 192.168.1.77 and that fits in your existing net Aug 05 09:41:01 yeah, i have it hooked up on a crossover cable, so guess i can hook it up to hub, reboot and then will see the mgmt panels at that ip Aug 05 09:41:31 yep Aug 05 09:42:11 my terminal window where i issued the reset cmd seems hung. never got another prompt, as it rebooted. normal? Aug 05 09:42:51 yes Aug 05 09:42:54 k Aug 05 09:43:25 it should detect (after a while) that the connection is broken Aug 05 09:45:47 not sure if it is worth putting a blurb on the wiki page about sometimes havign to do the mii-tool -F... cmd, but i never would have known that, had you not told me. Aug 05 09:48:28 if you think it might help someone else, it might as well be documented Aug 05 09:50:00 well, it could be that my ActionTec nic card isn't too common, if that is the variable. dunno. Aug 05 09:53:17 i am guessing that it would be a good idea for me to do unslung first, just to learn about it, and to later perhaps put a complete new os on my slug -- frog logger will probably need custom things for which i would need openslug? Aug 05 09:53:41 correct Aug 05 09:54:16 always better to learn what you're using first.. and linksys firmware and unslung are the best way to do that (unless you're a linux admin...) Aug 05 09:54:52 which i ain't :) Aug 05 10:11:09 but you're getting there.... Aug 05 10:27:48 i need to use one of these hard drives i bought, and take the other back. both are 40gb 5400rpm external usb (bus only) drives. one is an iogear ion and the other a western digital wd passport (i paid the same amt for them, so that doesn't matter). any shout-outs on these choices? :) Aug 05 10:30:54 I don't have experience with either of them... can you return an opened package? Aug 05 10:31:23 (in other words, *I'd* probably at least try both to see which one worked well / looked the best) Aug 05 10:31:38 they said so at best buy at least, within 30 days Aug 05 10:32:14 i asked, even for hard drives? ( and even though they said yes, i would beleive it if i see it) Aug 05 10:59:59 well, it isn't recognizing the iogear drive. have tried with slug already running and by rebooting the slug. Aug 05 11:02:24 what firmware is running on the slug? Aug 05 11:03:11 the original. i mean, i haven't changed it. Aug 05 11:03:19 but what revision? Aug 05 11:03:39 it says on the home page... Aug 05 11:03:47 2.3R21 Aug 05 11:03:54 ok... Aug 05 11:04:07 first you need to at least upgrade to R25 Aug 05 11:04:33 k Aug 05 11:04:34 because there were some enclosure recognition issues in that *first* release firmware Aug 05 11:05:07 IIRC, my Lacie d2 320GB didn't get recognized until the R23 release Aug 05 11:05:34 wow, 320. you're making me feel small :) Aug 05 11:06:16 that was just the first slug I had... I use 160GB these days... Aug 05 11:08:55 oh, i have to go to linksys website... Aug 05 11:09:18 that would be the place for Linksys firmwares... :) Aug 05 11:32:00 uh... this is taking a lot longer than the 5 minutes it suggested. still blinking red and green though, so i guess it is working on it. Aug 05 11:32:33 uh, yeah... Aug 05 11:32:51 hm Aug 05 11:32:55 feel free to change that time to flash to "up to 15-20 minutes" Aug 05 11:33:11 it was the linksys interface that said that Aug 05 11:33:28 oh... I think the wiki states that somewhere too Aug 05 11:33:31 dunno ByronT, 20 min seems to much to long Aug 05 11:33:33 when i clicked 'start upgrade' Aug 05 11:33:41 s/to/to be Aug 05 11:33:51 btw, did you detach the drive before starting the flash? Aug 05 11:34:01 yes Aug 05 11:36:22 ooof -- i used the zip file. what's that mean? i've fubared it? Aug 05 11:36:53 whoops... Aug 05 11:37:05 no, i didn't think so, the nslu waits for the bin file Aug 05 11:37:19 no, not completely... :) you can power cycle it... Aug 05 11:37:28 k, down it goes Aug 05 11:37:29 maybe a good idea to start over Aug 05 11:37:37 and since you know how to get into redboot, you can even use the upslug Aug 05 11:39:16 now we're cookin' Aug 05 11:45:30 hello Aug 05 11:45:43 hi Aug 05 11:45:52 Does anyone know how to create a new user and log into the slug as the new user (so I do not have to log in with root each time)? Aug 05 11:45:54 i have a small problem, someone can help mee plz ? I have flashed my nslu with unslung 5.5 beta but i can't boot from my harddisk :( i have unsling my disk by telnet ( unsling disk1 and reboot ) ... the slug seems boot but no response from 192.168.1.77. If the hardisk is not plug no problem. I don't find the solution :( can you help mee plz ? Aug 05 11:46:24 mcfly587, you have read this http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7489? Aug 05 11:47:25 bobby1, add a user via webif, telnet in, and change /share/hdd/conf/passwd, e.g. add a login shell Aug 05 11:47:38 s/telnet in/telnet in as root Aug 05 11:47:41 mhmh ok i try this ... thx caplink ;) Aug 05 11:48:42 bobby1, assumig, you use a disk on port1 Aug 05 11:49:03 Ahh... I forgot to change the password again for the new user... thanks, I will try that Aug 05 11:50:20 bobby1, change the line in passwd to something like that Aug 05 11:50:38 joerg:XXXXXX:2000:501::/share/hdd/data/joerg:/bin/sh Aug 05 11:50:58 name:password:uid;gid;comment:homedir:loginshell Aug 05 11:51:24 gotcha... I did that for root, but forgot to do that for my new login... BTW... one more question reguarding the linux environment Aug 05 11:51:36 si Aug 05 11:52:03 I read somewhere that when you upgrade to new versions of unslung, everything is erased except for what is in unslung directory... is that true? Do i need to put all my home files in there? Aug 05 11:52:28 /sbin/unlsung didn't touch the data dirs Aug 05 11:52:39 (shares) Aug 05 11:52:54 ahh good to know... thanks Caplink Aug 05 11:53:03 well, from what version, to what version? Aug 05 11:53:28 Well.. i have not upgraded... I am a newbie.. soi I started with 5.5... just curious for future versions Aug 05 11:53:51 Just do not want to store stuff in a directory that could be erased Aug 05 11:54:28 in the moment, /sbin/unslung copies the rootfs to the hd, so if you make some changes, no additions, to e.g. /bin, then, that changes will be lost Aug 05 11:55:02 but files, that you've added, are not a problem Aug 05 11:55:07 understood... so it only overwrites existing files... does not delete new ones Aug 05 11:55:21 right, guilty in this moment Aug 05 11:56:05 geojeff, the flash is well done? Aug 05 11:56:22 it is still cookin' Aug 05 11:58:25 17 min, the beef will be to toughen Aug 05 11:58:40 :) Aug 05 12:02:54 caplink811 great thx ! this solution works !! \o/ Aug 05 12:03:12 np, thanks to ByronT Aug 05 12:03:55 thx ByronT :D Aug 05 12:04:42 what did I do now? Aug 05 12:05:06 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7489 ;-) Aug 05 12:05:30 ah... Aug 05 12:05:39 that was certainly a nasty one... Aug 05 12:05:52 there is a slugbug now, and a possible permanent fix Aug 05 12:06:28 but in this moment, the message at the ml in very helpful :) Aug 05 12:08:58 geojeff, 27 min, the beef should be dead, still flashing red/green? Aug 05 12:10:36 yep, still flashing red and green Aug 05 12:11:17 so, i didn't read the backlogs, you're using the sercomm utility, or upslug? Aug 05 12:11:30 flashing red and green usually means that the slug is sitting in upgrade mode (but not being upgraded) Aug 05 12:11:38 the only upgrade i see is to R63. could it be that i have to go up in increments? if so, where are older firmware releases? Aug 05 12:12:02 the ftp site has the older one Aug 05 12:12:06 +s Aug 05 12:12:35 R21->R63 maybe too big a difference Aug 05 12:12:48 shouldn't be Aug 05 12:13:14 but my point is the slug is not *seeing* the incoming firmware Aug 05 12:13:15 well, i used the web interface, and hit the start upgrade button, using the bin file Aug 05 12:13:48 i am doing it from my win98 box. maybe i should try from gentoo laptop. Aug 05 12:14:04 you can use the sercomm utility from the win98 box Aug 05 12:14:13 R25 at www.jrbnet.de/texte/nslur25.zip Aug 05 12:14:41 is sercomm something that comes with CD? Aug 05 12:14:47 no Aug 05 12:15:51 http://www.nslu2-info.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=2 to get the sercomm tool Aug 05 12:16:31 dunno, whats the original adress is :( Aug 05 12:18:17 http://www.sercomm.com/web/download.nsf/cd9678c311095856482566a5000aac9e/7f17bf7344cfc12f482566aa00389845/$FILE/Upgrade_207_XP.exe Aug 05 12:18:25 thats the original adress Aug 05 12:20:06 oh, ok Aug 05 12:22:32 geojeff, what is the ip adress of your w98 box? Aug 05 12:23:34 1.100 Aug 05 12:24:35 if the nlsu is in upgrade mode, it maybe a good thing, to put your box in the 192.168.0.x segment, imho Aug 05 12:24:52 where x != 1 Aug 05 12:24:54 sercomm found the devide Aug 05 12:24:59 k Aug 05 12:25:00 s/devide/device Aug 05 12:26:03 hah, sharing violation because the web interface has hold of it i guess Aug 05 12:27:14 hm, i don't believe so.. Aug 05 12:28:31 yeah, i unzipped it to another folder and now it is going i think Aug 05 12:28:49 it says erasing EEPROM Aug 05 12:29:06 * caplink811 cross fingers Aug 05 12:29:13 and toes Aug 05 12:29:19 :) Aug 05 12:29:25 if it says "erasing eeprom", then it's going.... Aug 05 12:29:41 yeah, have progress bar now Aug 05 12:30:32 ByronT , btw, any chance to invite jbot to this chanel? Aug 05 12:31:04 actually, I have no idea who does jbot.... Aug 05 12:31:13 but this channel is being logged now Aug 05 12:31:24 yeah, i know Aug 05 12:31:41 jbot is owned by t.riker.. Aug 05 12:32:21 for the logs: maybe rwhitby-asleep knows the way to invite jbot Aug 05 12:32:54 ok, cool, now where was i... i can hotplug in my hard drive and slug will recognize HDD and ask to format, eh? Aug 05 12:33:34 so is the plan ;-) Aug 05 12:33:55 anybody using BIND Aug 05 12:35:04 hi seanrvm, no, not myself, but questions about bind, maybe more "on topic" at a chanel which related to bind, or dns Aug 05 12:35:42 on topic = reasonable Aug 05 12:35:56 nothing on HDD recognition... yet... Aug 05 12:38:07 didn't see in on reboot either Aug 05 12:38:13 you've hit refresh a couple of times? Aug 05 12:38:52 once.. Aug 05 12:39:45 i see the disk page under admin interface, and have refreshed several times, but no go Aug 05 12:42:10 what does it say for Disk 1 (assuming you've plugged in disk 1 Aug 05 12:42:43 Not Installed Aug 05 12:43:40 well, i can crack open the western digital :) Aug 05 12:45:47 the pre-formatting that this drive has wouldn't be a factor i guess, because this is simply the recognition step. Aug 05 12:46:45 yepp, the teamwork enclosure/disk/controller Aug 05 12:46:58 is the problem Aug 05 12:47:04 the disc 1 light never comes on at all Aug 05 12:47:34 well, i'll try the western digital Aug 05 12:47:57 but your enclosure/disk combi is recognized at your gentoo box? Aug 05 12:48:21 hmmm... lemme see Aug 05 12:49:26 so, that we could assume, that the disc/enclosure is functional Aug 05 12:50:18 i guess this requires a mount attempt... Aug 05 12:52:10 maybe, its enough to read the dmesg file, the disk should be recognized Aug 05 12:53:07 or messages, or syslog Aug 05 12:54:01 yeah, it saw it in dmesg Aug 05 12:54:54 so, it seems to be ok Aug 05 12:55:32 was that the iomega, or the wd disk? Aug 05 12:55:57 iomega so far Aug 05 12:56:02 hm Aug 05 12:56:08 no, iogear Aug 05 12:56:26 cause i'm out of ideas, may be ok, to try the wd Aug 05 12:56:38 yep Aug 05 12:56:54 sorry, read the backlogs in a hurry Aug 05 12:57:09 something with io ;-) Aug 05 12:59:55 i can't stant the totally-encasing plastic packaging that some products come in -- you'd thing that people would cut themselves trying to break into it! Aug 05 13:00:56 actually that has happened... Aug 05 13:01:40 I seem to recall at least 2 Major League Baseball players going on the Disabled List for 15 days due to injuries cutting open plastic encased stuff Aug 05 13:01:53 one stuck the knife into his stomach Aug 05 13:01:56 hehe, i believe it Aug 05 13:02:23 speaking of baseball, strike 2 Aug 05 13:03:29 I wonder if it is a power thing - or if the reason that the unit was available on ebay was due to probs with the USB ports Aug 05 13:03:54 could be Aug 05 13:04:29 you know anybody with a 3.5" encased hd? Aug 05 13:04:59 no, 'fraid not Aug 05 13:05:43 I'm trying to remember if the Disk LEDs will light up with a USB hub... Aug 05 13:06:50 i can stick my zaurus plug in there to see.. Aug 05 13:07:31 but it wouldn't tell us anything (since I'm not sure the LED would light anyways...) Aug 05 13:07:51 ah Aug 05 13:08:25 no slug here at work... ;) Aug 05 13:10:11 nothing on zaurus either Aug 05 13:10:42 i'll email the seller to ask Aug 05 13:12:04 and that was an R21 unit,,, Aug 05 13:16:48 i am tempted to drive to Houston to grab a slug. three hours round trip, but i'd like to get past this. Haven't been able to find slugs at local (Beaumont, TX) Office Depot, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc., but they have them in Houston at Fry's. Aug 05 13:17:25 newegg.com... Aug 05 13:17:43 yeah, if i was a patient person :) Aug 05 13:18:40 geojeff, PM Aug 05 13:25:54 GNite all Aug 05 13:30:52 hi Aug 05 13:31:42 i have a problem downloading the libstdc++_5.0.7-3_armeb.ipk package Aug 05 13:31:56 i think it#s because of the "+" Aug 05 13:32:16 is the a way to get wget to download it anyway `? Aug 05 13:32:24 +re Aug 05 13:33:41 checking.... Aug 05 13:34:02 which feed? Aug 05 13:34:36 http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/libstdc++_5.0.7-3_armeb.ipk Aug 05 13:36:05 it's not actually there.... Aug 05 13:36:17 oh Aug 05 13:36:49 borken... do you mind raising a slugbug Aug 05 13:38:09 is it this link ? http://slugbug.nslu2-linux.org/ Aug 05 13:38:51 yes.... and PM Aug 05 14:08:54 oh next problem Aug 05 14:08:55 Installing qemu-libc-i386 (2.3.3-1) to root... Aug 05 14:08:55 Configuring qemu-libc-i386 Aug 05 14:08:55 Error loading /opt/i386-unknown-linux-gnu/sbin/ldconfig Aug 05 14:08:55 postinst script returned status 1 Aug 05 14:08:55 ERROR: qemu-libc-i386.postinst returned 1 Aug 05 14:09:13 softlinking to ldconfig didn#t work Aug 05 14:09:56 how can i search for allready reported bugs on the slugbug site ? Aug 05 14:13:42 hm i guess it#s the query bugs think looks wierd Aug 05 14:13:49 -k+g Aug 05 14:13:51 lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 05 23:59:56 2005