**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 23:59:57 2005
Aug 09 12:45:34 <LeeColleton> is the NSLU2 fast enough to record a CD or DVD?
Aug 09 12:46:05 <blaster8> good question - I don't think anyone has tried
Aug 09 12:46:23 <blaster8> the answer is ... probably, if you rightclock it to 266MHz
Aug 09 12:47:05 <blaster8> the issue is that USB transfers are all CPU bound (unlike Firewire and most ATA which can do direct memory access)
Aug 09 12:48:16 <LeeColleton> what is the normal clock speed?
Aug 09 12:48:25 <LeeColleton> is it adjustable in software?
Aug 09 12:48:41 <blaster8> no - http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OverClockTheSlug
Aug 09 12:49:39 <ByronT> "RightClock" it.. I like!
Aug 09 12:49:50 <blaster8> :)
Aug 09 12:51:32 <blaster8> yeah, you should be able to write 52x CD-R, however you would probably need Openslug and the software hasn't been ported yet
Aug 09 12:51:34 <LeeColleton> so the increase in power for doubling the processor clock is NEGLIGIBLE?  how much power does this thing use?
Aug 09 12:51:41 <blaster8> negligible
Aug 09 12:52:04 <blaster8> Look at Power Measurements 4/5 of the way down the page
Aug 09 12:54:07 <LeeColleton> <10W is a lot better than my present server
Aug 09 12:54:24 * LeeColleton enjoys voiding warranties
Aug 09 12:54:39 <LeeColleton> Where can I get a NSLU2 cheap?
Aug 09 12:55:22 <ByronT> Dell has 'em for $79.99 with a $10 rebate
Aug 09 12:55:57 <ByronT> I've bought a *few* from newegg.com too though
Aug 09 12:59:31 <LeeColleton> are the 2 usb ports on the same controller?
Aug 09 13:01:41 * blaster8 is mounting his NSLU2 in a 5.25" Aluminium Drive Case to make a complete fanless server
Aug 09 13:02:35 <blaster8> I'm pretty sure there are 2 independent controllers
Aug 09 13:03:06 <LeeColleton> I suspected that based on the selective booting of root filesystems from port 1
Aug 09 13:03:34 <LeeColleton> that's slightly better for recording CDs
Aug 09 13:03:55 <LeeColleton> I'll be sure to post my results on the wiki
Aug 09 13:04:13 <blaster8> You will need Openslug by the way - and you may need to do a kernel recompile
Aug 09 13:04:28 <LeeColleton> blaster8: why recompile?
Aug 09 13:04:30 <blaster8> talk to the devs in #openslug (not sure if they're in atm)
Aug 09 13:05:02 <blaster8> well, the kernel built in Openslug is still very minimal - they may not have even enabled CD drivers
Aug 09 13:05:45 <LeeColleton> ah.. trying to keep the kernel as slim as possible
Aug 09 13:06:17 <blaster8> well, really just trying not to add any odd problems by including things that may not be required
Aug 09 13:06:54 <blaster8> they only enabled Multi-LUN support today (multiple IDE/other devices on one USB device)
Aug 09 13:08:32 <LeeColleton> I have no problem rolling my own.  thanks for the info
Aug 09 13:08:38 * LeeColleton heads off to frys
Aug 09 13:24:27 <Matt_Durkin> hey all
Aug 09 13:25:30 <Matt_Durkin> I've unslung to 5.5 beta, installed samba 3, and now when I boot the device there's a massive delay (~4 minutes) with no disc activity
Aug 09 13:25:48 <Matt_Durkin> immediately following that delay I can ping the box
Aug 09 13:26:03 <Matt_Durkin> anyone know how i can find out what's going on during that time?
Aug 09 13:26:17 <Matt_Durkin> seems like something is hanging up when the box tries to start it
Aug 09 13:27:09 <ByronT> rootfs is on the hdd?
Aug 09 13:28:10 <Matt_Durkin> I'm assuming so
Aug 09 13:28:13 <Matt_Durkin> I unslung 
Aug 09 13:28:33 <Matt_Durkin> I seem to recall everything looked like it was on /dev/sda
Aug 09 13:28:44 <Matt_Durkin> and the box does start to boot
Aug 09 13:28:51 <ByronT> you could be having hdd problems...
Aug 09 13:28:52 <Matt_Durkin> stops just before it gets an IP address
Aug 09 13:29:01 <caplink811_log> Matt_Durkin, you can verify the context between the installation of samba3 and the boot delay
Aug 09 13:29:01 <Matt_Durkin> it was all fine until I installed samba 3
Aug 09 13:29:14 <ByronT> you have it set for dhcp?
Aug 09 13:29:29 <Matt_Durkin> no
Aug 09 13:29:31 <Matt_Durkin> static ip
Aug 09 13:29:54 <Matt_Durkin> i reckon it's more like 5 minutes actually
Aug 09 13:30:17 <Matt_Durkin> the boot delay definitely happened right after samba 3 install
Aug 09 13:30:25 <Matt_Durkin> but I also had to install openssl
Aug 09 13:30:50 <Matt_Durkin> and cyrus-sasl
Aug 09 13:30:52 <Matt_Durkin> for samba to work
Aug 09 13:31:22 <Matt_Durkin> "/var/log/messages" shows nothing
Aug 09 13:32:02 <Matt_Durkin> help!
Aug 09 13:32:04 <Matt_Durkin> :)
Aug 09 13:33:08 <caplink811_log> whats about /var/log/samba, or may be samba3.x specific /opt/var/log/samba ?
Aug 09 13:34:45 <Matt_Durkin> just shows started and ignoring a couple of unknown variables
Aug 09 13:34:50 <Matt_Durkin> all log stamps at same time
Aug 09 13:34:56 <Matt_Durkin> so no delay betwen them
Aug 09 13:35:59 <caplink811_log> what's the reason for you to install samba3.x ?
Aug 09 13:36:26 <Matt_Durkin> I want to run a PDC
Aug 09 13:36:35 <Matt_Durkin> seems easier with samba 3
Aug 09 13:36:49 <Matt_Durkin> gotta shoot - be back in 15 mins
Aug 09 13:50:45 <Matt_Durkin> back - any inspiration?
Aug 09 13:51:16 <ByronT> This is automated reply: "We've all left."
Aug 09 13:51:49 <ByronT> This is automated reply: "It's nothing personal, we just didn't have a canned answer.
Aug 09 13:51:58 <ByronT> +" dunr it
Aug 09 13:55:23 <ByronT> how long does it take to boot sans hdd?
Aug 09 14:11:47 <Ivanmarcus> Matt_Durkin: my slug takes ages to boot but I didn't install samba 3, I seem to recall some info about boot delay due to disk checks after a certain number of reboots..
Aug 09 14:12:30 <Ivanmarcus> FWIW I have installed a number of other packages tho' .. could be one of them.
Aug 09 14:47:14 <Matt_Durkin> without HDD it boots normally - maybe just over a minute
Aug 09 14:47:37 <Matt_Durkin> just starting from scratch to see if I can figuer out the specific app that causes the delay
Aug 09 14:49:37 <ByronT> waste of time...
Aug 09 14:50:45 <ByronT> IMO, your time would be better spent doing the serial mod
Aug 09 14:53:03 <Matt_Durkin> serial mod?
Aug 09 14:56:35 <ByronT> serial port mod to be exact - adding a serial port to the nslu2 that you access via terminal
Aug 09 14:58:09 <blaster8> how would that help? (out of interest)
Aug 09 14:59:11 <rwhitby> you can watch what is happening as the slug boots
Aug 09 14:59:22 <blaster8> of course - thanks
Aug 09 15:03:06 <Matt_Durkin> yea - I wondered about that
Aug 09 15:03:23 <Matt_Durkin> *maybe* I'll do that if I get desperate
Aug 09 15:03:37 <Matt_Durkin> I'm thinking of doing the de-underclock mod
Aug 09 15:04:02 <Matt_Durkin> right - gotta shoot. goodnight all and thanks for your thoughts...
Aug 09 15:04:11 <ByronT> you haven't already?
Aug 09 15:04:20 <ByronT> doh! slow typing
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