**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 11 23:59:56 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 12 07:18:11 2005 Aug 12 07:22:25 mithro: tends to be Q&A in this channel, in my experience - so ask away if you want to :) Aug 12 07:31:53 anyway... Aug 12 07:32:21 i was intrested in what price a NSLU would be and then if there is a version which stacks with the other linksys products? Aug 12 07:42:03 well, for a price check out amazon.com Aug 12 07:42:03 or local variants Aug 12 07:42:38 and the NSLU2 doesn't stack - it comes in a pretty unique form factor which can stand up and so takes up minimal space Aug 12 07:43:15 personally I don't care for the cables everywhere look of an NSLU2 and a seperate hard drive so I am custom mounting the lot in a 5.25" case Aug 12 07:43:19 but that's just me Aug 12 07:50:29 I wouldn't necessarily look on eBay for one, btw, as ppl are very interested in buying them atm Aug 12 08:03:33 blaster8: well i have a wrt54g and am looking for the cheapest way to add usb support Aug 12 08:07:21 nslu2 all the way Aug 12 08:07:41 alternative might be the Asus WL500g - but that would replace the wrt54g Aug 12 08:08:32 the NSLU2 community is more active - and by the sound of it, you can just use Unslung Firmware (easier than Openslug) to get the functionality you want Aug 12 08:10:09 sorry about the delay between replies - I am just fixing my NSLU2 in its new case and testing the new power source Aug 12 08:15:27 but a nslu is expensive Aug 12 08:16:17 if you want NAS, it is the cheapest way Aug 12 08:16:48 except for just using an existing computer Aug 12 08:25:25 the big advantage of the NSLU2 over other NAS devices is its expandability (you plug in any USB Hard drive, rather than the hard drive the company gives you) and the customising you can do with these different firmwares Aug 12 10:19:57 hmm - I may have a problem with my (2nd hand) NSLU2 - When I bought it I tested it briefly, plugged in the external hard drive, it spun up fine and so assumed everything was fine Aug 12 10:21:04 now, when I plug it into the ethernet to check how the web interface works, I notice it doesn't recognise the hard drive in USB1 - the LED is off (and was off when I first tested it, now I remember) Aug 12 10:22:03 however it --does-- get recognised on Disk 2 - is there anything this could be apart from a hardware fault Aug 12 10:28:40 the hd is small - 10GB btw Aug 12 11:04:27 blaster1, which firmware is runnig? Aug 12 11:12:26 an early firmware version (v24) - probably should upgrade it Aug 12 11:34:59 well that fixed it Aug 12 11:35:14 2.3r63 and the hard drive is seen perfectly Aug 12 11:35:39 ~praise caplink811_log Aug 12 11:35:41 etc Aug 12 11:39:18 :) Aug 12 11:58:12 Introduction to Unslung: Aug 12 11:58:12 Unslung is a replacement firmware for the Linksys NSLU2 (Network Storage Link for USB 2.0 Drives). The Unslung firmware releases (currently 1.x - 5.x) allow the user to expand the capabilities of their NSLU2 device while both retaining the standard product functionality and compatibility with the stock Linksys firmware. Aug 12 11:58:18 It is highly recommended less experienced or new Linux users utilize the Unslung firmware. However, if you are an experienced Linux user, you may wish explore OpenSlug replacement firmware. You can find out about OpenSlug at [http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug]. Aug 12 11:59:02 hm Aug 12 11:59:24 argh *doh* didn't mean to paste that all like that :p - however, it *would* be useful if anyone has any comments... Aug 12 11:59:39 its for the friendly documentation project. Aug 12 11:59:51 ah Aug 12 12:03:19 I can help with freindly doco, if you want Aug 12 12:03:47 and yes, I can normally spell Aug 12 12:03:55 :p Aug 12 12:04:27 the one thing we do need is an improved NSLU-Linux logo for the top-left corner Aug 12 12:06:54 philipjohnson, is this project still alive? last changes on the wiki are from 09 june? Aug 12 12:07:57 blaster8: it isn't about the design of the nslu2-linux.org website, it's about making the readme and other documentation presentable to newbies and less experienced users. this means incorporating screenshots, coloured warnings etc. etc. Aug 12 12:08:46 caplink811: yep, unfortunately we don't have a big group of people working on it - and craigs gone for an extended leave so things are moving kinda slowly... Aug 12 12:09:01 so I've started writing bits 'n' bobs... Aug 12 12:09:33 the draft contents pages are available @ the nslu2-unslung-userdocumentation group. Aug 12 12:10:26 blaster8: it'd be great if you could help though... :) as above: nslu2-unslung-userdocumentation Aug 12 12:10:38  Aug 12 12:13:00 join #bash Aug 12 12:13:02 oops Aug 12 12:15:38 hello Aug 12 12:15:45 hi. Aug 12 12:16:40 morning Aug 12 12:18:21 i have a problem with my nslu :( i changed my root password : passwd in telnet and i use this command : cp /etc/passwd /share/hdd/conf/passwd , cp /etc/passwd /usr/local/passwd Aug 12 12:19:00 1st, this sounds correct Aug 12 12:19:02 but now i can't access with telnet :( , i have access with ssh without any problem but with telnet .... Aug 12 12:19:48 2nd if you change your password, you should try to login in a 2nd session, before close the 1st one ;-) Aug 12 12:20:21 if you boot your slug without a data storage media attached, you could login? Aug 12 12:20:52 i have shutdown my slug many times no problem with attached disk , but without any key or disk i can't access Aug 12 12:21:17 via telnet, i mean Aug 12 12:21:18 no, no access without my hard disk Aug 12 12:21:26 yes via telnet no access Aug 12 12:21:46 using uNSLUng as root pw? ort your new password? Aug 12 12:22:35 no :( i don't understand , i can't rechange my password with ssh if i boot with my disk Aug 12 12:22:58 i can try to replace my password with uNSLUng perhaps ? Aug 12 12:24:24 with admin, admin => Password: Aug 12 12:24:24 No directory, logging in with HOME=/ Aug 12 12:24:24 Cannot execute /dev/null: Permission denied Aug 12 12:25:10 that's right, cause admin has no login shell by default Aug 12 12:25:22 ok Aug 12 12:26:00 so, you're able to login as root via ssh, but don't able to login as root via telnet? right? Aug 12 12:26:08 yes Aug 12 12:27:03 if you boot without a hdd attached, than you're unable to login as root with uNSLUng, or your new pw? right? Aug 12 12:27:22 yes Aug 12 12:27:40 my slug name is changed, it can pose problem ? Aug 12 12:27:46 imho, no Aug 12 12:27:59 :( Aug 12 12:28:09 so, this is the salt coded pw, equals uNSLUng : tVk9Rn.reTFfs Aug 12 12:28:36 you can try, to edit /etc/passwd and changed the pwfield from user root to this Aug 12 12:28:54 without a hdd attached Aug 12 12:29:15 then you should be able to login via telnet as root using uNSLUng as pw Aug 12 12:29:43 if this works, stay "logined" and then attached the hdd Aug 12 12:29:57 ok, then, i boot with my hard disk drive , login with ssh , i changed the password and then reboot without disk Aug 12 12:30:01 s/attached/attach Aug 12 12:30:29 k Aug 12 12:33:18 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Aug 12 21:28 passwd -> /share/hdd/conf/passwd Aug 12 12:33:26 -rw------- 1 root root 358 Aug 9 23:25 passwd- Aug 12 12:33:31 its ok ? Aug 12 12:33:45 passwd- - ?? Aug 12 12:34:00 that's ok, if you boot with a hdd attached, or hotplug the hdd, then /etc/passwd is a link to /share/hdd/conf/passwd Aug 12 12:34:38 ok i must edit witch file ? /etc/passwd- ? Aug 12 12:35:18 yes, than it becomes a "real" file Aug 12 12:35:36 ?become? dunno Aug 12 12:37:04 slug reboot ... Aug 12 12:37:16 without hdd.. Aug 12 12:37:19 yes :) Aug 12 12:39:50 no access :'( Aug 12 12:39:53 hm Aug 12 12:40:14 curious Aug 12 12:40:31 yes very strange, i don't understand Aug 12 12:40:56 what happens, if you hotplug your disk? Aug 12 12:41:04 i try Aug 12 12:41:45 stupid questions, no access means, wrong pw, or no telnet to the slug? Aug 12 12:42:37 will say, telnet is permanently enabled? Aug 12 12:42:46 :o access ! if i plug my disk it works with my proper password ! Aug 12 12:43:01 nice Aug 12 12:43:33 dunno why, but it is a success ;-) Aug 12 12:43:54 yes but if i have a problem with my disk drive Aug 12 12:44:00 ? Aug 12 12:44:02 i can't unsling a new disk Aug 12 12:44:18 ? Aug 12 12:44:35 what did you done, and what happens? Aug 12 12:44:57 i boot without disk Aug 12 12:45:05 and then i plug my disk Aug 12 12:45:17 and password is ok if i plug my disk Aug 12 12:45:27 but without no access via telnet Aug 12 12:45:33 k Aug 12 12:46:16 so, /share/hdd/conf/passwd comprised a guilty password Aug 12 12:46:43 yes Aug 12 12:46:48 and so you can try to cp /share/hdd/conf/passwd to /etc/passwd Aug 12 12:46:56 dunno if this works Aug 12 12:46:58 mhmh i try :) Aug 12 12:47:20 but if it works, a ls -la /etc should show something like that Aug 12 12:47:37 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 596 Aug 12 21:24 passwd Aug 12 12:47:43 a real file, and no linl Aug 12 12:47:58 and with the same size as /share/hdd/conf/passwd Aug 12 12:48:07 s/lin/link Aug 12 12:48:12 # cp /share/hdd/conf/passwd to /etc/passwd Aug 12 12:48:12 cp: unable to stat `/etc/passwd/passwd': Not a directory Aug 12 12:48:30 and in /etc i have passwd- Aug 12 12:48:53 hm, try cp /share/hdd/conf/passwd /etc Aug 12 12:48:59 pls Aug 12 12:49:19 # cp /share/hdd/conf/passwd to /etc Aug 12 12:49:20 cp: to: No such file or directory Aug 12 12:49:21 :s Aug 12 12:50:02 in /share/hdd Aug 12 12:50:06 i have root Aug 12 12:50:12 and everyone Aug 12 12:50:20 woops no Aug 12 12:50:22 sorry : Aug 12 12:50:23 drwxrwxr-x 7 0 root 1024 Aug 5 19:49 conf Aug 12 12:50:23 drwxrwxr-x 21 502 everyone 4096 Aug 12 21:38 data Aug 12 12:50:42 grumpf, but there is a /share/hdd/conf/passwd as a normal file ? Aug 12 12:50:50 yes Aug 12 12:50:54 :( Aug 12 12:51:09 and a /etc/passwd as a link to /share/hdd/conf/passwd ? Aug 12 12:51:58 assuming, your firmware is unslung5-5 Aug 12 12:52:04 share/hdd/conf/passwd => -rw-r--r-- 1 0 root 0 Aug 12 21:45 passwd Aug 12 12:52:10 yes 5.5 Aug 12 12:52:25 nothing in file Aug 12 12:52:26 :s Aug 12 12:52:47 aeh, your hdd(assuming) is on port 1? Aug 12 12:52:59 yes Aug 12 12:53:01 k Aug 12 12:53:31 i can't access with telnet with another session Aug 12 12:53:45 i think my passwd its corrupt or clean :s Aug 12 12:54:19 couldn't be, you could login as root via telnet with an attached hdd, right? Aug 12 12:54:42 yes i am still loggued Aug 12 12:54:50 but with another konsole Aug 12 12:55:10 whatever.. Aug 12 12:55:12 mhmh 1 secondes i try with uNSLUng Aug 12 12:55:22 but the telnet works with my proper password Aug 12 12:55:29 lol i'm stupid Aug 12 12:55:33 a "cat /share/hdd/conf/passwd" give what output? Aug 12 12:56:12 nothing Aug 12 12:56:16 its clean !!! Aug 12 12:56:26 can you send mee your files Aug 12 12:56:35 with root uNSLUng plz Aug 12 12:56:36 si **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 12 15:27:41 2005 Aug 13 04:57:00 if anyone is around...i'm having some trouble executing a command in /etc/crontab Aug 13 04:57:10 if i run the command manually it's fine. Aug 13 04:57:34 crontab also claims to run the command in /var/log/messages, but nothing actually happens Aug 13 04:57:41 cron has *very* few environment variables set when it runs the command. Aug 13 04:57:50 i.e. $HOME may not even be set Aug 13 04:57:57 i've got $HOME Aug 13 04:58:15 oh wait, is there a diff between $HOME and HOME Aug 13 04:58:25 SHELL=/bin/sh Aug 13 04:58:25 PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin Aug 13 04:58:25 MAILTO="" Aug 13 04:58:25 HOME=/ Aug 13 04:58:27 that, and an assumption of $PATH and the working directory, is usually the cause. Aug 13 04:58:34 that's all i have Aug 13 04:58:54 when you run the command manually, is that all you have in your env ? Aug 13 04:59:41 my /etc/profile says Aug 13 04:59:57 xport PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/bin:$PATH:/opt/sbin:/opt/usr/bin:/opt/usr/sbin Aug 13 04:59:57 export TERMINFO=/opt/share/terminfo Aug 13 04:59:57 export TERM=vt100 Aug 13 05:00:12 is that what you mean? Aug 13 05:01:00 what is in your environment when you run the command manually? Aug 13 05:01:15 how can i check what's in my environment? Aug 13 05:01:45 that depends on what firmware you are running. you neglected to mention that in your original question. Aug 13 05:01:54 unslung Aug 13 05:02:02 on my desktop, I run "env". Aug 13 05:02:05 dunno about unslung Aug 13 05:02:14 it may not have a way to do it easily Aug 13 05:02:21 env works Aug 13 05:03:07 remove all the variables (export VAR="") until you only have the ones left that crontab sets, and try the command manually Aug 13 05:03:58 ok Aug 13 05:06:53 i've removed everything except the ssh variables Aug 13 05:07:54 bingo Aug 13 05:07:59 it's a path problem Aug 13 05:08:13 argh...how stupid of me Aug 13 05:08:25 it doesn't know about /opt/bin which my script calls Aug 13 05:10:35 OK, please write this up in http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/DebugCrontabProblems Aug 13 05:11:21 righto Aug 13 05:12:25 I've linked it onto the main HowTo page under Troubleshooting. Aug 13 05:13:02 is there any formatting style guide Aug 13 05:13:10 or shall i just borrow the formatting of existing ones Aug 13 05:13:22 formatting doesn't matter. just put the content in Aug 13 05:13:41 the edit page has formatting tips at the bottom of it. Aug 13 05:50:10 all done Aug 13 05:54:55 hi, a small question, if i use an usb key for my root files i must connect the key in the disk port 1 and my hard disk after in disk 2 ? that's ok ? Aug 13 05:56:58 if i am not mistaken, the linksys docs say hard disk in disk 1, and key in disk 2 Aug 13 05:58:38 yes but to format the key we must connect in the disk 1 ... :s Aug 13 05:59:13 hmmm i see Aug 13 05:59:25 i search the wiki page ... Aug 13 05:59:29 i am not the best guy to ask, because i only have 1 hard disk and no keys Aug 13 05:59:40 so i just put my disk in 1 and did not think about it Aug 13 06:01:02 ok i have the same configuration now ;) Aug 13 06:01:25 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/FAQ#faq40 Aug 13 06:04:32 "unless the flash is on disk1, in which case it is treated as a very small ext3 disk." Aug 13 06:04:51 i think it must be connect on disk1 for root files Aug 13 06:48:54 'allo Aug 13 06:49:24 stupid question of the day - how do you confirm that the root partition is from an external drive (last step of Unslung README) Aug 13 06:50:38 aah, looks like df does this trick Aug 13 06:50:56 might add that to the Friendly Documentation Aug 13 06:51:09 mount Aug 13 06:51:26 well, or df Aug 13 06:54:30 just playing around with unslung Aug 13 06:54:45 Tell you what I am really impressed about Aug 13 06:55:08 My HD wasn't recognised in 2.3r24-29 - only in 2.3r63 Aug 13 06:55:35 install Unslung, and despite it being based on r29, it works perfectly Aug 13 06:56:34 of course, knowing that you're more competent that Linksys isn't a huge compliment, but still, I'm impressed :) Aug 13 06:58:53 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/UnslungFeatures - Unslung 3.x and earlier changes - paragaph 1 could be the reason Aug 13 07:42:07 I think you're right - interesting that it is fixed in the latest versions Aug 13 07:42:16 they are learning from us :) Aug 13 08:05:09 Unslung works beautifully, btw Aug 13 08:05:35 quite a bit of customisation has to be done, but it's does work well Aug 13 09:43:55 hy Aug 13 09:48:03 is it normal that after using upslug to upgrade firmware from unslung 4.x to 5.5, the slug remains in maintenance mode (Status led blinking red/green)? Aug 13 10:18:20 MooZ, red/green flashing means upgrade mode, it seems, that your 1st try gone bad Aug 13 12:53:35 Hi. I'm looking at running WASTE on a NSLU2. How feasable is it, as WASTE uses RSA and blowfish for encryption? Aug 13 13:19:27 hmm Aug 13 13:19:50 won't exactly be speedy, but theoretically it would work Aug 13 13:20:05 you would REALLY want to 'overclock' the slug to its proper speed Aug 13 13:29:49 blaster8: I'm picking one up tomorrow, have snips at the ready Aug 13 13:30:02 I'm guessing blowfish & RSA are heavily floating point based Aug 13 13:30:05 Although that's a guess Aug 13 13:30:17 Will have a go Aug 13 13:33:52 blowfish cipher works nicely in SSH - probably the best one to use Aug 13 16:39:32 whats up guys is there anyone that can help me out with my NSLU2 that i just got Aug 13 16:39:40 shoot Aug 13 16:40:26 um the first thing i saw that i did not like is that the admin and guest logins cant be removed Aug 13 16:40:32 is there another way to remove them Aug 13 16:41:15 you can disable guest login if i remember correctly Aug 13 16:41:48 yea but you cant delete it right Aug 13 16:43:10 i don't think you can through the web interface Aug 13 16:43:18 but if u disable it, it's as good as gone Aug 13 16:43:37 and when you set up your shares, make sure "everyone" doesn't have access Aug 13 16:43:50 ok one more question Aug 13 16:45:20 in the admin foler there is a folder named "public" is there any reason that is there and what hapens if i put files in it? are those visable to evryone? Aug 13 16:46:06 if you go through the advanced settings and restrict access to the share to only the admins, not 'everyone' Aug 13 16:46:10 then you're fine Aug 13 16:46:35 ok thanks for you help Aug 13 16:46:37 later Aug 13 21:37:43 does anyone know how to reformat a hardrive to work on windows after in was formated to work on the NSLU2 Aug 13 21:38:34 windows XP? Aug 13 21:38:59 yea Aug 13 21:39:31 right click on"My Computer", click on "Manage" Aug 13 21:39:51 go to Disk Management and delete the partitions and format to whatever you want it to be Aug 13 21:40:49 thanx Aug 13 21:41:22 np Aug 13 22:01:49 anyone around and available to answer a question? Aug 13 22:02:15 ask and maybe I can answer... Aug 13 22:02:19 or others Aug 13 22:02:28 I plugged a second HD into my SLUG, went in and formatted the second drive, and lost my mt-daapd server Aug 13 22:03:05 damn backspace in java Aug 13 22:03:10 that's weird to say the least Aug 13 22:03:29 I don't like hearing that ;) Aug 13 22:03:42 wierd is not always bad Aug 13 22:03:46 both drives are available, and seem fine Aug 13 22:04:05 how can I check the settings of my mt-daapd service? Aug 13 22:04:19 you should check to see if the binary is still there Aug 13 22:04:23 and check the settings Aug 13 22:04:28 telnet? Aug 13 22:04:29 then make sure it is running Aug 13 22:04:33 telnet or ssh Aug 13 22:04:59 ok, I think I installed ssh, I'll try that Aug 13 22:05:26 if the mp3 files are there, it's not that big of a deal Aug 13 22:05:36 the mp3s are there Aug 13 22:06:02 if I'm not here when you get back, just post to the nslu2-general mailing list (or maybe someone else is awake that could help you) Aug 13 22:06:20 sounds good, thanks loads Aug 14 01:34:37 Having some problems booting unslung from ext flash usb... Aug 14 07:57:27 ? Aug 14 08:16:03 hello? Aug 14 08:16:07 lo Aug 14 08:16:34 Can you assist me in setting up a new drive? Aug 14 08:18:12 if you're busy NAiL, I can help Aug 14 08:18:26 what exactly do you want to do childeb1? Aug 14 08:18:34 thanks Aug 14 08:18:57 I have just purchased a 250gb drive and wanted to start fresh Aug 14 08:19:14 running Unslung? Aug 14 08:19:17 yes Aug 14 08:19:22 right Aug 14 08:19:29 i have been using 4.2 on a smaller drive Aug 14 08:19:30 totally fresh? Aug 14 08:19:33 yes Aug 14 08:19:47 ok, I would upgrade to 5.5 then just follow the README Aug 14 08:19:53 but upgrading to 5 from 4 is not too easy Aug 14 08:20:08 Here is where I start to have problems... Aug 14 08:20:15 1 second Aug 14 08:20:18 k Aug 14 08:20:35 what have you don? Aug 14 08:20:44 I have unslung disk1 Aug 14 08:20:58 by telnetting, logging in as root, and unsling disk1 ... Aug 14 08:21:05 k Aug 14 08:21:24 When I reboot, the ready status light goes out after ~15 seconds and does not boot Aug 14 08:21:31 I can still boot with no drive Aug 14 08:21:44 Did you format the new disj Aug 14 08:21:56 sorry, my fingers are playing up for some reason Aug 14 08:21:59 Yes Aug 14 08:22:04 thru the web interface Aug 14 08:22:09 for trying to audio recording, libao was suggested by dyoung yesterday. it isn't in the ipkg list because it has "runtime problems". i have unslung, and did 'ipkg install python' as a test. how do i proceed with work on libao? Aug 14 08:22:31 geojeff: ask in #nslu2-linux Aug 14 08:22:38 blaster8, ok Aug 14 08:22:49 it's a bit too advanced for here ;) Aug 14 08:23:07 definitely for me :) Aug 14 08:23:21 childeb1: and did you flash from Redboot Upgrade mode Aug 14 08:23:32 yes Aug 14 08:23:51 right - boot the slug with no disks attached Aug 14 08:24:19 once it has booted, plug in and reformat the HD Aug 14 08:24:37 k. doing that now... Aug 14 08:26:25 formatting... Aug 14 08:29:38 then shutdown, remove the HD, boot up, telnet in and unsling again - if you still have problems then we need to do some diagnostics Aug 14 08:31:05 ok thanks Aug 14 08:36:57 blaster8, i'm sure you understand how the ipkg system works better than me -- a basic question: when you want to do your own dev on such a problem as this, do you have to setup your own build environment, say on gentoo, to test "add on" packages? or, can you just manually install things on the slug directly to test? Aug 14 08:37:56 i tried ./configure on libao, after putting it in /usr/local/ but it didn't find gcc, etc. so i guess that's a problem with standard locations of things Aug 14 08:38:36 geojeff: you know about environment variables> Aug 14 08:39:01 ah, some basic setup of the env needed, eh? Aug 14 08:39:34 unslung/openslug? Aug 14 08:39:40 unslung Aug 14 08:39:48 and have you used the master makefile? Aug 14 08:40:08 no Aug 14 08:40:13 aah Aug 14 08:40:51 if you have a local linux box I would try cross-compiling Aug 14 08:41:28 yes, running gentoo Aug 14 08:41:47 found docs on master make file. will try there Aug 14 08:42:09 I haven't updated the gentoo stuff yet Aug 14 08:43:08 so setup-host-gentoo isn't working perfectly yet (I have the patch on my HD) Aug 14 08:43:43 k Aug 14 08:44:58 add ~dev-util/monotone-0.22 ~* & ~dev-libs/boost-1.32.0 ~* to /etc/portage/package.keywords Aug 14 08:45:46 then emerge -n autoconf automake bison ccache cvs flex glib libtool m4 make monotone patch pkgconfig sed sys-apps/texinfo unzip psyco subversion bzip2 Aug 14 08:45:50 then grab a coffee Aug 14 08:46:00 "a" coffee Aug 14 08:46:10 well, if you have a fast machine Aug 14 08:46:25 boost takes ages though Aug 14 08:46:30 as does monotone Aug 14 08:47:24 then download the master makefile and make unslung Aug 14 08:47:49 brb Aug 14 08:48:04 ok Aug 14 08:49:11 NAiL: feel like updating the Master Makefile Aug 14 08:49:17 I have another little patch Aug 14 08:49:29 I'm on my way out, so it'll have to wait Aug 14 08:50:11 i didn't have a package.keywords -- i guess that's because i've never emerged anything that wasn't "standard" Aug 14 08:50:41 geojeff: just add one Aug 14 08:51:20 yep, emerging that stuff now Aug 14 08:51:43 the ~ means that it will use monotone-0.22r1 if it is released, but not monotone-0.23 Aug 14 08:51:49 if you see what I mean Aug 14 08:52:26 yeah Aug 14 08:53:09 then, when make unslung is finished, you should be able to cd unslung ; source setup-env Aug 14 08:53:27 which will setup your environment for building new NSLU2 stuff Aug 14 08:53:33 cool Aug 14 08:54:08 just make sure you go back to source /etc/profile when you want to do anything more normal (setup-env won't go across reboots, minf) Aug 14 08:54:45 yeah, was just thinking about that. i guess i'll continue to do this as root? Aug 14 08:56:12 geojeff: no, you do all the cross-compiling as a regular user Aug 14 08:56:18 ok Aug 14 08:56:48 if you are feeling keen, you can setup a seperate cross-compiling user Aug 14 08:56:51 I use slugdev Aug 14 08:57:12 that way you don't muck up your home with extraneous stuff Aug 14 08:57:20 yah Aug 14 08:57:31 one last thing - run ls -la / for me Aug 14 08:57:39 and tell me the permissions of . Aug 14 08:57:49 k Aug 14 08:59:26 drwxr-xr-x Aug 14 09:01:51 good Aug 14 09:02:11 mine was d-wxr-x--- Aug 14 09:02:19 no damn idea why (fresh 2005.1 install) Aug 14 09:03:10 i installed this back in june. forgot details. took like a weekend to compile Aug 14 09:05:02 yep, it clipped through those first two, now is doing boost Aug 14 09:16:14 blaster, you still here? Aug 14 09:17:21 ello Aug 14 09:17:23 sorry Aug 14 09:17:31 np Aug 14 09:17:39 got caught up with stupid people in #pfsense Aug 14 09:17:42 grr Aug 14 09:17:47 anyway, did it work :) Aug 14 09:17:49 I have formatted a couple of times with no success. Aug 14 09:17:53 argh Aug 14 09:17:54 ok Aug 14 09:17:59 Here is where I am now... Aug 14 09:18:26 I have formatted, and rebooted with the drive connected just to make sure that everything still works Aug 14 09:18:54 my next step would be, reboot without the drive, telnet, reconnect, unsling, then reboot with drive connected Aug 14 09:19:15 good Aug 14 09:19:22 when I do that, the status light stays out during booting, as if it has locked up Aug 14 09:19:43 one strange thing is that the root password I gave it several formats ago is still there Aug 14 09:19:48 exactly where does it stop: Aug 14 09:19:49 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash Aug 14 09:20:56 after 6 Aug 14 09:21:45 one thing I should let you know is that I have it running @ 266mhz Aug 14 09:21:56 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OverClockTheSlug Aug 14 09:22:01 shouldn't make a difference (hopefully) Aug 14 09:22:37 should I give it another shot? Aug 14 09:22:56 try reflashing the stock Linksys 2.3R29 firmware Aug 14 09:23:01 format the drive in that Aug 14 09:23:18 then upgrade to Unslung 5.5 through the web interface Aug 14 09:23:30 and follow the Readme from stock Aug 14 09:23:39 I can use the web interface to go back to Linksys? Aug 14 09:23:45 or do I need redboot? Aug 14 09:23:50 use the Unlsung Enter Upgrade Mode Aug 14 09:23:56 then use upslug Aug 14 09:25:01 "Unlsung Enter Upgrade Mode" what is that? Aug 14 09:25:28 in the web interface go to where the usual Linksys Web Update was (admin/advanced/upgrade) Aug 14 09:25:35 then click Enter Upgrade mode Aug 14 09:25:38 ok Aug 14 09:25:48 and it will reboot and go into red/green flashing light mode Aug 14 09:26:06 aye. I'll give that a try. Thanks for your help. Aug 14 09:27:03 otherwise I'll get one of the big Unslung developers to help diagnose what is going wrong Aug 14 09:29:12 I may try the 'swap drives' thing... http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SwapDrivesOnUnslung Aug 14 09:29:33 if this doesn't work out Aug 14 09:31:45 if there is an issue with the unsling scripts then that should help Aug 14 09:32:30 but if there is an underlying problem with the Linksys firmware and your drive (that Unslung may not be able to fix) then it probably won't work Aug 14 09:34:15 Should I try Unslung 4.20. That is what is on the 'old' drive. Aug 14 09:34:29 then upgrade to 5.5 Aug 14 09:34:29 no Aug 14 09:34:33 no Aug 14 09:34:41 go straight to 5.5 Aug 14 09:34:42 ? Aug 14 09:34:44 go back to Stock Linksys, then go to 5.5 Aug 14 09:34:51 without your old drive plugged in Aug 14 09:34:56 or anywhere near the slug ;) Aug 14 09:35:11 yes. that is what I meant. Aug 14 09:35:40 so, go linksys -> format drive -> disconnect -> upgrade to 5.5 -> unsling Aug 14 09:35:51 that's the one Aug 14 09:35:59 thanks Aug 14 09:39:41 sorry about putting you on the run around about this Aug 14 09:40:46 me? it is no problem. Aug 14 10:06:40 I cannot flash from Linksys FW to 5.5. "Upgrade: No enough free space." Aug 14 10:07:12 what gives you that error? Aug 14 10:07:36 which FW Rev are you using? Aug 14 10:07:55 Current Firmware Version: V2.3R29 Aug 14 10:08:02 hmm, the right one Aug 14 10:08:14 redownload the Unslung firmware Aug 14 10:08:20 Think there's info on "not enough free space" on the wiki Aug 14 10:08:25 aah, is there Aug 14 10:08:28 Think that's specific to R29? Aug 14 10:08:35 didn't happen to me Aug 14 10:08:50 I might be *way* off though... I haven't messed with unslung. It just rings a bell Aug 14 10:09:06 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/FAQ#faq4 Aug 14 10:09:10 well done Aug 14 10:09:52 heh, learn a lot by just reading the subject lines on the mailinglist :P Aug 14 10:23:52 childeb1: follow the instructions on the FAQ page and you should be OK Aug 14 10:25:28 I had clicked a couple of times before getting to the update page. Aug 14 10:26:01 It appears to have uploaded. Aug 14 10:28:36 Flash appears to have failed. Flashing orange/green for ~10 minutes Aug 14 10:29:30 or maybe it takes this long? Aug 14 10:29:42 that would be a failure Aug 14 10:29:53 NAiL: Referring this to you Aug 14 10:30:11 NAiL: Basically unslinging with 5.5 beta fails with a new drive Aug 14 10:30:43 NAiL: Tried to restore it to a stock configuration then go back to Unslung , but the above happened Aug 14 10:31:05 I really don't know Aug 14 10:31:10 I'm an all-openslug person Aug 14 10:32:17 childeb1: Sounds like you're back to flashing through redboot mode, but this is beginning to sound like a hardware issue - or your link between your computer and the slug is somehow unreliable Aug 14 10:32:41 How do I connect the 192.168.1.x subnet to 192.168.0.x subnet for rebooting? Aug 14 10:33:04 just connect your machine directly to the slug Aug 14 10:33:23 given the problems you are having, that would be the fallback solution Aug 14 10:33:55 get to Redboot Upgrade mode by holding in the reset button as you press the power, then continuing to hold until you see the red light Aug 14 10:34:34 Should I try unslung 4.2? Aug 14 10:35:15 Maybe - I wouldn't normally recommend it, but it might isolate a software problem Aug 14 10:35:42 i'll try that then. I will be back in a bit. Aug 14 10:35:48 thanks for your help Aug 14 10:36:20 do try connecting the machines directly together - just removes another point of failure Aug 14 11:19:37 blaster, I was able to get 4.20 going Aug 14 11:20:16 hmm Aug 14 11:20:20 hmmm Aug 14 11:20:28 that's not right Aug 14 11:20:47 I'm debating whether or not to stay here or try to go to 5.5 and sling-over Aug 14 11:21:11 well, if you want the latest stuff, the unslung 4.2 feed simply won't be updated Aug 14 11:25:39 blaster8, i did make unslung, and it died because monotone not found. i guess the emerge didn't work... Aug 14 11:25:50 hmm Aug 14 11:26:01 have you done emerge sync recently? Aug 14 11:26:15 no, never :) Aug 14 11:26:23 time to do emerge sync Aug 14 11:26:25 also i am new user Aug 14 11:26:34 I was debating whether to remind you earlier Aug 14 11:26:47 k Aug 14 11:26:57 don't worry - it won't install any new packages unless you emerge -u world Aug 14 11:28:50 hi Aug 14 11:43:48 blaster8, emerge synce failed on connection time outs. if my usual emerge commands work, then it isn't a prob with my firewall, but just with connection probs? Aug 14 11:43:56 firewall Aug 14 11:44:19 ok, lemme see... Aug 14 11:44:34 you need to open rsync ports Aug 14 11:44:43 outgoing (not necessarily incoming) Aug 14 11:44:50 ok Aug 14 11:52:50 any luck geojeff Aug 14 11:55:06 i am trying to figure out what firewall is running :) i see iptables, but seem to recall it is another one (my friend helps me with firewall) Aug 14 11:55:46 there is an easier way Aug 14 11:55:49 but not ideal Aug 14 11:56:21 use emerge-webrsync instead Aug 14 11:57:38 yeah, i saw that. let me see about firewall. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 14 15:50:06 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 14 15:50:30 2005 Aug 14 18:59:56 blaster? Aug 14 19:01:17 NaiL? Aug 14 19:01:58 kinda busy, in the middle of soldering ;) Aug 14 19:02:22 badly soldering Aug 14 19:02:23 Sorry. Just want to say thanks again for the help this afternoon. I am finally up on upslug 5.5 Aug 14 19:03:23 ah, heh, np. blaster was the one though ;) Aug 14 19:03:27 ByronT: shush with you ;) Aug 14 19:06:09 just stating the truth Aug 14 19:06:24 heey Aug 14 19:06:31 I got that tiny resistor back into place Aug 14 19:06:39 ok, getting better with the soldering Aug 14 19:06:42 It's what? 1x1.5mm? Aug 14 19:06:51 The tip of my iron is larger than that Aug 14 20:01:39 hey, can anyone explain, or point me to a guide on how to have my slug back up to an osx machine? Otherwise, how would someone recommend syncing mp3's between the mac and the slug on a regular basis? Aug 15 05:21:17 blaster8, i ended up doing emerge-webrsync last night, then i did emerge -u world, and it is still chugging along, it is now on 90 of 154 :) (i guess i really needed to do this, generally speaking?) Aug 15 05:21:46 hmm, you shouldn't have done emerge - world Aug 15 05:22:16 oops Aug 15 05:22:31 you will have a big job fixing all of your /etc files and it's not necessary to do the compilation Aug 15 05:22:55 it's not going to break the compilation, it just will take you a long time Aug 15 06:11:48 blaster8, turned out i am running ipchains. added the rsync ports so i can do emerge sync from here on out. what is it about /etc files i will need to do? Aug 15 06:11:59 argh, ipchains Aug 15 06:12:15 it is rh7.3 if that is why he used that Aug 15 06:12:16 has your emerge --update world finished Aug 15 06:12:26 no, stuck on kde Aug 15 06:12:33 You need to update that - what is your firewall running on> Aug 15 06:12:35 i mean chugging Aug 15 06:12:42 PC-wise Aug 15 06:13:06 firewall is on rh7.3 machine Aug 15 06:13:10 what specs? Aug 15 06:13:35 for my gentoo machine? (which is a laptop) Aug 15 06:13:41 no, the firewall (nosy) Aug 15 06:14:00 old pc -- maybe 5 years. Aug 15 06:14:03 my question is simple whether it has a CD-ROM and a floppy drive really Aug 15 06:14:10 yes it does Aug 15 06:14:17 and you have a spare floppy? Aug 15 06:14:27 i can dig one up Aug 15 06:14:31 Burn this: http://m0n0.ch/wall/downloads.php Aug 15 06:14:33 the cd-rom Aug 15 06:14:45 it is based on FreeBSD 4.11, extremely secure and stable Aug 15 06:14:57 cool Aug 15 06:14:57 and everything is configured through a really polished web interface Aug 15 06:15:15 best kept secret of the OSS world - probably because it is BSD Aug 15 06:15:19 but it is SO good Aug 15 06:16:42 anyway, about gentoo Aug 15 06:18:02 open up a new terminal - and rerun this command Aug 15 06:18:05 emerge -n autoconf automake bison ccache cvs flex glib libtool m4 make monotone patch pkgconfig sed sys-apps/texinfo unzip psyco subversion bzip2 Aug 15 06:19:35 after the emerge -u world finishes, i assume? Aug 15 06:19:42 no need to wait Aug 15 06:19:45 ok Aug 15 06:20:06 it'll just slow down up your machine a bit more temporarily :) Aug 15 06:20:30 hehe **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 15 07:19:38 2005