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Aug 27 03:01:59 <jimwah> can anyone help me with an ipkg problem?
Aug 27 03:03:24 <caplink811_log> just ask, maybe someone have an answer
Aug 27 03:04:21 <jimwah> righto, i've unslung and setup the dns and gateway info, then i ran ipkg fine
Aug 27 03:04:54 <jimwah> but after installing some pkgs (dropbear, apache, mysql and perl) i reset the slug and now ipkg does not work
Aug 27 03:05:14 <jimwah> i have internet access - pings work but no joy on the ipkg update (or anything else)
Aug 27 03:05:50 <caplink811_log> pls, define "ipkg doesn't work"
Aug 27 03:06:23 <jimwah> it just sits there saying "Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/Packages.gz
Aug 27 03:06:23 <jimwah> " but gets no further
Aug 27 03:06:42 <jimwah> the file's only 50k or something and when it worked 1st time only took a second to d/l
Aug 27 03:07:46 <jimwah> i'm wondering if apache somehow screwed with the http config?
Aug 27 03:09:51 <caplink811_log> have you reboot the slug after unsling and before install any packages?
Aug 27 03:10:54 <jimwah> yes i did that, i checked the root fs was on the ext hdd
Aug 27 03:11:00 <caplink811_log> k
Aug 27 03:12:01 <jimwah> i've also checked that the gateway and dns settings are correct (thru the linksys web interface) and my router is letting all traffic through to the slug (it's set as the DMZ)
Aug 27 03:12:13 <caplink811_log> the rootfs IS on the ext hd ?
Aug 27 03:12:21 <jimwah> yes
Aug 27 03:12:43 <caplink811_log> does ipkg list work?
Aug 27 03:12:59 <jimwah> yes
Aug 27 03:13:32 <jimwah> and i can ping the net
Aug 27 03:14:18 <caplink811_log> the net ok, but whats about pinging  a name e.g. ping ipkg.nslu2-linux.org ?
Aug 27 03:14:47 <jimwah> that's working
Aug 27 03:14:51 <caplink811_log> k
Aug 27 03:15:50 <caplink811_log> and wget http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/Packages.gz works also?
Aug 27 03:16:29 <jimwah> hey yes it works!
Aug 27 03:16:38 <jimwah> it works manually
Aug 27 03:16:48 <caplink811_log> hm
Aug 27 03:16:52 <jimwah> but 'ipkg update' it just sitst there
Aug 27 03:16:55 <jimwah> hmm
Aug 27 03:17:44 <jimwah> i might just reflash it and start over. i don't have anything on the drive anyways
Aug 27 03:18:52 <caplink811_log> i think, there is no need for that
Aug 27 03:19:27 <jimwah> ok
Aug 27 03:20:49 <caplink811_log> before reflash, it could be helpful to do another unsling, just reboot without hd, login, hotplug the hd, wait ;-), and then unsling
Aug 27 03:21:01 <caplink811_log> but you lost the informations about installed packages
Aug 27 03:22:30 <jimwah> that's ok i hadn't done much with them anyway!
Aug 27 03:23:28 <jimwah> thanks for your help
Aug 27 05:29:27 <engie> Hi. I can't build-openslug as it can't get to www.xinetd.org - can anyone else access that?
Aug 27 05:37:45 <engie> I've managed to find a download of xinetd-2.3.13.tar.gz, how do I tell the Makefile to use that instead of trying to download it>
Aug 27 05:37:45 <engie> ?
Aug 27 05:38:10 <rwhitby> put it in the downloads directory
Aug 27 05:38:31 <rwhitby> and you might have to create a .md5 file too (md5sum)
Aug 27 05:39:43 <engie> OK, I'm trying that...
Aug 27 05:39:47 * engie twiddles thumbs
Aug 27 05:42:51 <engie> rwhitby: Thanks, looks like that's worked!
Aug 27 05:43:03 <rwhitby> np
Aug 27 05:43:33 <rwhitby> engie: can you add an FAQ entry for that?
Aug 27 05:44:56 <engie> Will do
Aug 27 05:49:10 <rwhitby> thx
Aug 27 06:00:25 <engie> Change made to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile
Aug 27 06:27:59 <engie> Is the file that the make build-openslug command builds saved in /home/slug/openslug/tmp/deploy/images/openslug-nslu2-20050820162116.flashdisk.img? Is that the file that needs to be upslugged?
Aug 27 06:50:41 <engie> Hi. I've just installed openslug (built from monotone) and the ipkg list is a little uninspiring - is there a feed of more compiled apps?
Aug 27 06:50:56 <engie> Ohh, hang on - update may be in order
Aug 27 10:06:07 <gorx> hey peeps
Aug 27 10:06:53 * caplink811_log searchs chips, beer and cigarettes, things to enjoy the show
Aug 27 10:07:19 <gorx> anyways, ive installed cups but it doesnt come on at boot, can any1 help?
Aug 27 10:09:04 <gorx> can any1 help?
Aug 27 10:09:44 <ByronT-Away> have you followed the wiki instructions?
Aug 27 10:09:48 <gorx> yup
Aug 27 10:10:01 <gorx> ive done it like 5 times and still the same result
Aug 27 10:10:16 <gorx> ive gotta start /opt/etc/init.d after boot to get cups to work
Aug 27 10:11:27 <ByronT-Away> the wiki states you have to copy the startup file for cups *into* /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:11:44 <ByronT-Away> and it works just fine for me
Aug 27 10:12:11 <gorx> oooh into do u just do cp startup/file /opt/etc/init.d ?
Aug 27 10:12:18 <gorx> or what?
Aug 27 10:13:15 <ByronT-Away> from the wiki: "After installation, you will have to copy /opt/doc/cups/S88cups to /opt/etc/init.d and run the file."
Aug 27 10:13:34 <gorx> how do you do that? im a linux noob lol
Aug 27 10:13:51 <ByronT-Away> make sure it has the right perms and cups should auto start every time you reboot
Aug 27 10:14:09 <gorx> perms?
Aug 27 10:14:31 <ByronT-Away> then you need linux help.... www.ss64.com has basic commands - and how they translate between OSes
Aug 27 10:14:39 <ByronT-Away> perms = permissions
Aug 27 10:14:47 <gorx> thought so lol
Aug 27 10:15:06 <gorx> all i did was cp /opt/doc/cups/S88cups /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:15:12 <gorx> is what it asks me to do?
Aug 27 10:16:19 * caplink811_log is amazed about ByronT-Away 's longanimity
Aug 27 10:18:47 <ByronT-Away> yes, gorx, that cp command is correct
Aug 27 10:19:07 <caplink811_log> if /opt/etc/init.d exists before
Aug 27 10:19:29 <gorx> thanks ive just done chmod 555 /opt/etc/init.d thatok?
Aug 27 10:19:38 <ByronT-Away> if you then cd /opt/etc/init.d and then ls in that folder, you should see S88cups
Aug 27 10:21:28 <gorx> nope it just says /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:22:09 <ByronT-Away> . /opt/etc/init.d should be a folder
Aug 27 10:22:17 <gorx> yes 
Aug 27 10:22:35 <gorx> oh wait hang on
Aug 27 10:22:45 <gorx> it says can't cd to /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:23:20 <ByronT-Away> so mv init.d S88cups
Aug 27 10:23:43 <ByronT-Away> and then mkdir /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:24:07 <ByronT-Away> then mv S88cups /opt/etc/init.d
Aug 27 10:24:50 <gorx> it says 'unable to rename S88cups : no such file or directory
Aug 27 10:24:55 <gorx> wen i do that last command
Aug 27 10:25:02 <gorx> the 1st 2 worked
Aug 27 10:25:09 <gorx> first*
Aug 27 10:25:20 <ByronT-Away> then mv S88cups /opt/etc/init.d/S88cups
Aug 27 10:26:38 <gorx> says about no file or dir again
Aug 27 10:27:16 <caplink811_log> 1st "cd /"
Aug 27 10:27:33 <caplink811_log> 2nd "ls -la /opt/etc" and post the output
Aug 27 10:28:42 <gorx> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 460 S88cups
Aug 27 10:29:09 <caplink811_log> that's all ?
Aug 27 10:29:14 <gorx> drwxrwxr-x 5 root root 4096 cups
Aug 27 10:29:22 <gorx> no im writing it out lol
Aug 27 10:29:42 <gorx> drwxr-sr-x 2 root root 4096 init.d
Aug 27 10:29:50 <gorx> and theres 2 more at the beginning
Aug 27 10:29:56 <caplink811_log> enough
Aug 27 10:30:09 <gorx> so thats ok is it?
Aug 27 10:30:17 <caplink811_log> you're logged in as root?
Aug 27 10:30:22 <gorx> yup
Aug 27 10:30:55 <caplink811_log> "cp /opt/etc/S88cups /opt/etc/init.d"
Aug 27 10:31:24 <gorx> done
Aug 27 10:31:39 <caplink811_log> "cd /opt/etc/init.d"
Aug 27 10:31:56 <caplink811_log> "ls -la" and verifiy that S88cups is there
Aug 27 10:32:06 <gorx> it is
Aug 27 10:32:19 <caplink811_log> "rm /opt/Etc/S88cups"
Aug 27 10:32:37 <gorx> yup
Aug 27 10:33:29 <caplink811_log> and now it should start after a reboot, but may be a good thing to do a "chmod 755 /opt/etc/init.d/S88cups" before the reboot
Aug 27 10:33:36 <gorx> kk
Aug 27 10:34:19 <gorx> bbs
Aug 27 10:34:24 <gorx> cheers mate
Aug 27 10:34:28 <caplink811_log> and a better thing is to follow ByronT-Away hints
Aug 27 10:35:28 <caplink811_log> from today and from round three month ago, about learning the linux basics
Aug 27 11:01:39 <caplink811_log> NSLU2-IRC, can you pls change the nich, using /nick newnick ? thx
Aug 27 11:01:49 <caplink811_log> too slow ;-)
Aug 27 11:02:38 <falveyg> yea.. sorry I didn't notive it was connected.  I was watching a video..  wrongchan anyway.. I think I need #openslug
Aug 27 11:03:03 <caplink811_log> for any questions related to openslug, sure
Aug 27 11:03:27 <falveyg> well it's more on how to set up a build environment on openslug so I guess I'll start there..
Aug 27 11:03:46 <caplink811_log> that may be in #nslu2-linux on topic also
Aug 27 11:04:34 <falveyg> maybe.. I know I need to use the base makefile.. but it seems to keep failing on me.. :(
Aug 27 11:05:07 <falveyg> keeps complaining about not having "glob"
Aug 27 11:05:14 <caplink811_log> you want build openslug or you want build anything on openslug?
Aug 27 11:05:30 <caplink811_log> native
Aug 27 11:05:47 <falveyg> well I want to start by trying to build openslug.. then I want to build the cups package for openslug..
Aug 27 11:06:00 <falveyg> yea native is easier for me
Aug 27 11:06:48 <caplink811_log> have you read this http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile ?
Aug 27 11:08:34 <falveyg> yes that's where I started..  have the master make file.. itseemed to grab everything and now when I make build-openslug it says "ImportError: No module named glob"
Aug 27 11:11:50 <caplink811_log> dunno, #nslu2-linux is the better channel for these kind of questions, or the mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-developers
Aug 27 11:13:10 <falveyg> yea..  on the mailing list... haven't posted yet but will if I don't get anywhere soon...
Aug 27 13:29:22 <phatmonkey^iBook> root@slug:~# ifconfig eth1
Aug 27 13:29:22 <phatmonkey^iBook> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:B3:02:02:02  
Aug 27 13:29:24 <phatmonkey^iBook> ... etc
Aug 27 13:29:38 <phatmonkey^iBook> root@slug:~# ifup eth1
Aug 27 13:29:38 <phatmonkey^iBook> ifup: Ignoring unknown interface eth1
Aug 27 13:29:41 <phatmonkey^iBook> huh?!
Aug 27 13:29:53 <phatmonkey^iBook> it should be a wireless interface
Aug 27 13:30:06 <phatmonkey^iBook> I've never used wireless on linux, anyone got any pointers?
Aug 27 13:30:15 <phatmonkey^iBook> it's a prism2 usb device, it should work natively
Aug 27 16:35:06 <rwhitby> phatmonkey^iBook: wireless may not be enabled in the openslug kernel ...
Aug 27 16:36:36 <scanlime> aww.. openslug only comes with /dev/sda through /dev/sdc by default? :)
Aug 27 17:18:08 <rwhitby> we can fix that ...
Aug 27 17:18:15 <rwhitby> how many do you want ...
Aug 27 17:19:47 <scanlime> got 4 disks hooked up right now, but might need more later. No big deal though, I'm still poking around on other stuff
Aug 27 17:20:05 <scanlime> ah, good ol' device_table
Aug 27 17:30:03 <phatmonkey^iBook> hmm, is there the kernel somewhere so I can recompile it with wireless networking?
Aug 27 17:31:59 <rwhitby> phatmonkey^iBook: mastermakefile on the wiki
Aug 27 17:46:32 <chotchki> hey guys im thinking about buying of the linksys devices and wanted to know what is the likelyhood of actually toasted it when loading new firmware
Aug 27 17:50:50 <rwhitby> chotchki: over 5000 installations, and we've never heard of any problems
Aug 27 17:51:40 <rwhitby> (well, people have problems when they don't follow the instructions, but they can always recover by telnetting into the redboot bootloader)
Aug 27 17:52:01 <chotchki> rwhitby: cool i ask mainly because i was talking to a guy about the device on ##linux and he really hated the stock firmware
Aug 27 17:52:36 <chotchki> though while reading through the wiki....is the 2gb limit still in place?
Aug 27 17:52:56 <chotchki> or can i use a non vfat filesystem on the external drive?
Aug 27 17:54:23 <rwhitby> what 2gb limit?
Aug 27 17:55:37 <chotchki> i saw mentioned in the backup howos that there was a 2gb file size limit
Aug 27 17:55:43 <chotchki> howtos*
Aug 27 17:56:30 <chotchki> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/BackupYourLinuxBox
Aug 27 17:58:03 <rwhitby> there is no size limit in the kernel - some of the packages haven't been compiled properly
Aug 27 17:58:52 <chotchki> ahhh so i could for example use ext3 on my external and avoid the whole issue?
Aug 27 18:00:24 <rwhitby> yep
Aug 27 18:00:37 <rwhitby> or reiserfs if you use openslug
Aug 27 18:00:39 <rwhitby> or nfs ...
Aug 27 18:01:22 <chotchki> which one is better overall? openslug or the other one?
Aug 27 18:02:18 * chotchki notes that he doesnt care about pretty web interfaces
Aug 27 18:03:55 <rwhitby> have you installed and administered linux before?
Aug 27 18:04:52 <chotchki> yes im talking to your on a gentooized laptop ;D
Aug 27 18:05:37 <rwhitby> then you want openslug
Aug 27 18:06:00 <rwhitby> after you've read the openslug stuff on the wiki, check out #openslug
Aug 27 18:06:13 <chotchki> okay thank you
Aug 27 18:06:50 <chotchki> one last question is it worth doing the underclock removal?
Aug 27 18:08:40 <rwhitby> yes
Aug 27 18:09:00 <rwhitby> and put a serial port on while you have it open
Aug 27 18:10:26 <chotchki> well since my only computer doesnt have a serial port, it probably wouldnt help much ;)
Aug 27 18:10:44 <rwhitby> get a usb-serial cable (from an old phone data cable)
Aug 27 18:11:55 <chotchki> cant i just use sshd on the box or have i missed something in the wiki?
Aug 27 18:13:04 <rwhitby> you don't need serial, but its handy for kernel development or when you break it so bad that sshd doesn't run.  of course you can always reflash to recover, but serial is easier to repair things
Aug 27 18:14:49 <chotchki> okay
Aug 27 18:18:04 <chotchki> for the development aspect, have you heard of people successfully cross compiling from an amd64?
Aug 27 18:20:12 <chotchki> or am i going to need a 32-bit set of build tools?
Aug 27 18:26:00 <phatmonkey^iBook> thanks for the help
Aug 27 18:27:16 <phatmonkey^iBook> makemasterfile sounds a tad too complicated taking into account my little knowledge on kernel compilation
Aug 27 18:27:28 <phatmonkey^iBook> I'll have a look at it tomorrow when my brain doesn't hurt so much
Aug 27 18:29:45 <emm_is> Guys, how different is the openslug USB kernel from the unslung one? Getting qemu to work with usblib looks like it will need some kernel level debugging (so far I can get data exchange but not enough before a segmentation fault in qemu)
Aug 28 02:20:26 <rwhitby> emm_is: openslug is 2.6.latestish, unslung is 2.4.oldanddecrepid
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