**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 05 03:33:57 2005
Sep 05 05:05:08 <eFfeM> I'm trying to set up a native compile env under openslug; I have installed gcc and see the dir, but I am missing the symlinks to /usr/bin/gcc etc
Sep 05 05:05:24 <eFfeM> Should I create this myself, or am I missing something ?
Sep 05 05:43:33 <rwhitby> have you installed the openslug-native package?
Sep 05 05:50:12 <eFfeM> ho  rod, i'm on the phone, will get back in 5 or0 mins
Sep 05 05:50:26 <eFfeM> ho = hi; 0 = 10
Sep 05 06:01:21 <eFfeM> back!
Sep 05 06:01:35 <eFfeM> I've installed gcc from the cross feed
Sep 05 06:01:59 <eFfeM> from http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/cross/2.5-beta/Packages.gz
Sep 05 06:02:20 <eFfeM> actually native/2.5-beta is empty!
Sep 05 06:02:25 <rwhitby> have you installed the openslug-native package?
Sep 05 06:02:37 <rwhitby> "ipkg install openslug-native"
Sep 05 06:03:37 <eFfeM> no, haven't done that, I'm doing this right now
Sep 05 06:04:03 <rwhitby> ok, where would you have expected to read that on the wiki?
Sep 05 06:04:08 <eFfeM> I see a number of interesting things being installed as a result of this
Sep 05 06:04:45 <eFfeM> What I am missing in the wiki is after installing and turnup is a place and some tips on how to continue
Sep 05 06:05:04 <eFfeM> I carved a page on samba earlier today, based on my experiences
Sep 05 06:05:08 <rwhitby> ok, that's your opportunity to write such a page ...
Sep 05 06:05:25 <eFfeM> I just knew you were going to say that ;-)
Sep 05 06:05:32 <rwhitby> :-)
Sep 05 06:06:16 <eFfeM> meanwhile there is another thing that I'd like to ask
Sep 05 06:06:38 <eFfeM> if I do an ipkg install I always get errors from coretools where it wants to make symlinks
Sep 05 06:06:48 <eFfeM> actually coretools is always configured whatever I do
Sep 05 06:07:14 <eFfeM> coretools = coreutils
Sep 05 06:07:18 <eFfeM> A snapshot:
Sep 05 06:07:18 <eFfeM> root@NSLU2:~# ipkg install ntp
Sep 05 06:07:19 <eFfeM> Package ntp (4.2.0-r5) installed in root is up to date.
Sep 05 06:07:19 <eFfeM> Configuring coreutils
Sep 05 06:07:19 <eFfeM> update-alternatives: Error: not linking //usr/bin/basename to basename.coreutils since //usr/bin/basename exists and is not a link
Sep 05 06:07:54 <rwhitby> did you install 2.5 binary or 2.6 binary?
Sep 05 06:07:59 <eFfeM> 2.5
Sep 05 06:08:24 <eFfeM> I'm all on 2.5 with a binary kernel; the only 2.6 thing I have installed is apache+php
Sep 05 06:08:30 <rwhitby> I suspect the update-alternatives was only implemented after 2.5 was released 
Sep 05 06:09:21 <rwhitby> and so the ipkgs which were part of the image did not have the update-alternatives stuff in place for subsequent installs to interact with
Sep 05 06:10:09 <eFfeM> should I install the 2.6 version?
Sep 05 06:10:20 <rwhitby> but that's just a guess ...
Sep 05 06:10:56 <rwhitby> installing 2.6 from a build should at least have all the update-alternatives stuff in sync between the image and the feed.
Sep 05 06:11:53 <eFfeM> ehm, you lost me. can I install 2.6 as a binary user? If so what is the magic incantation (or is there an url with some help)
Sep 05 06:12:38 <eFfeM> I d/l-ed the 2.5 binaries and installed that. Then turnup-ed and ipkg install -ed some things
Sep 05 06:15:02 <rwhitby> 2.6 is only available to be built yourself.  it's in alpha.
Sep 05 06:15:37 <eFfeM> yeah, that is what I assumed. I'm still working my way up to that stage.
Sep 05 06:15:54 <eFfeM> need to set up a cross env first (just moved to openslug last sat)
Sep 05 06:15:58 <eFfeM> brb
Sep 05 06:45:15 <eFfeM> back
Sep 05 06:46:15 <eFfeM> is there a way on openslug to trigger a program or script when a USB device is inserted?
Sep 05 06:46:48 <eFfeM> (I want to automatically copy files from a stick when inserted or automatically copy pictures from a digicam when connected)
Sep 05 07:00:03 <eFfeM> rwhitby-asleep, I have added a short section called Installing Packages to the openslug homepage to make people aware of openslug-native 
Sep 05 11:31:49 <melt> Hi, I've got a problem with an USB ethernet adaptor on openslug,
Sep 05 11:32:03 <melt> It's a Belkin usb ethernet adapter (works with pegasus kernel module), and it drops packets for a whole second at regular intervals.
Sep 05 11:32:25 <melt> Does anyone have a clue what could be causing that?
Sep 05 11:32:56 <melt> I've been googling and rying things for days without result :/
Sep 05 11:34:06 <melt> Thre's nothing in dmesg, and tcpdump on the slug shows that it recieves packets, but doesn't answer them for some reason. 
Sep 05 11:54:09 <melt> Anyone got any help for me? I'm desperate, so I'll be happy with wild guesses :/
Sep 05 11:56:39 <eFfeM> melt, hmm a lot of things can happen; some guesses
Sep 05 11:57:01 <eFfeM> if the traffic is busy it could be that the slug cannot handle it and that at some point it is dropping packets
Sep 05 11:57:28 <eFfeM> it could be that  your card is in promiscuous mode and it is not even traffic to your card that is causing this
Sep 05 11:57:44 <eFfeM> and of course the driver could be lousy
Sep 05 11:58:08 <eFfeM> or someone trying to assign the adapter to a different AP
Sep 05 11:58:09 <melt> I was was monetering the traffic with tcpdump, and it even does it when the only traffic is one ping every seconds :/
Sep 05 11:58:12 <eFfeM> just some wild guesses
Sep 05 11:58:19 <melt> thx in any case!
Sep 05 11:58:40 <eFfeM> i'm not sure tcpdump will help you with promiscuous mode
Sep 05 11:58:59 <eFfeM> then other packets are received by the adapter and discarded higher up the stack
Sep 05 11:59:31 <eFfeM> perhaps use a pc with a wifi card and monitor the traffic (e.g. using ethereal and preferably under linux as the linux drivers give more info)
Sep 05 11:59:56 <eFfeM> it might also be that the beacon sometimes causes a nasty action or so
Sep 05 12:00:23 <eFfeM> or it could be that due to other activity on your slug your process is swapped out and does not get the time to process the data
Sep 05 12:00:28 <eFfeM> enough wild guesses??
Sep 05 12:00:32 <melt> It's not a wireless thing, it's simple ethernet :/
Sep 05 12:00:43 <melt> yes thx, any help is appreciated :)
Sep 05 12:00:49 <eFfeM> oh sorry, misunderstood that, then a lot of the things do not make sense
Sep 05 12:00:57 <eFfeM> as there is no beacon.
Sep 05 12:02:21 <melt> As far as I know the only option left is a lousy driver, but the pegasus driver is used by so many people, I can't believe I'd be the only one having this problem.
Sep 05 12:03:59 <eFfeM> if you are knowledgeable and want to invest the effort you could recompile the driver and instrument it a little bit
Sep 05 12:04:08 <eFfeM> e.g. writing some debug info
Sep 05 12:04:29 <melt> I know, that's what I want to avoid doing ;)
Sep 05 12:04:53 <es`Fatboy> ji
Sep 05 12:04:55 <es`Fatboy> ups
Sep 05 12:04:56 <es`Fatboy> hi
Sep 05 12:04:58 <es`Fatboy> :)
Sep 05 12:05:03 <es`Fatboy> good start ;)
Sep 05 12:05:09 <caplink811_log> ~ask
Sep 05 12:05:11 <capbot> If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes.
Sep 05 12:06:09 <es`Fatboy> I cant get ipkg to work :( i use Current Firmware Version: V2.3R29-uNSLUng-5.5-beta what do I have to do?
Sep 05 12:06:29 <es`Fatboy> dont know what I did wrong
Sep 05 12:06:50 <eFfeM> did you set your gateway address?
Sep 05 12:07:16 <es`Fatboy> mm I think so
Sep 05 12:07:16 <caplink811_log> well, can you describe your problem with ipkg
Sep 05 12:07:23 <es`Fatboy> jepp
Sep 05 12:07:30 <caplink811_log> , pls?
Sep 05 12:07:44 <es`Fatboy> # ipkg info
Sep 05 12:07:44 <es`Fatboy> ipkg: No such file or directory
Sep 05 12:08:13 <es`Fatboy> but
Sep 05 12:08:17 <es`Fatboy> it is there
Sep 05 12:08:20 <es`Fatboy> # cd /etc/ipkg
Sep 05 12:08:22 <es`Fatboy> # ls
Sep 05 12:08:22 <es`Fatboy> arch.conf cross-feed.conf native-feed.conf oe-feed.conf
Sep 05 12:08:29 <es`Fatboy> but I cant use it
Sep 05 12:09:31 <caplink811_log> then, something went wrong with unsling
Sep 05 12:09:41 <es`Fatboy> ok
Sep 05 12:10:12 <caplink811_log> there should be ipkg-ctl and ipkg as as link, when it isn't then something is wrong
Sep 05 12:10:38 <es`Fatboy> ok tnx so ..I have to "reinstall"
Sep 05 12:11:12 <caplink811_log> maybe possible to start over with a new unsling
Sep 05 12:11:55 <es`Fatboy> ok mabyI did wrong when I installed it ...I installed it with the webb interface
Sep 05 12:12:18 <es`Fatboy> just brows to the .bin file
Sep 05 12:14:10 <caplink811_log> nope, that's ok
Sep 05 12:14:44 <es`Fatboy> cool
Sep 05 12:14:48 <es`Fatboy> I just reaqd this
Sep 05 12:14:49 <es`Fatboy> Removed the ipkg symlink, and changed unsling to add it back in on an external rootfs
Sep 05 12:15:04 <es`Fatboy> from https://developer.berlios.de/project/shownotes.php?release_id=6140
Sep 05 12:15:08 <es`Fatboy> change log
Sep 05 12:15:58 <es`Fatboy> maby that has something to do with it
Sep 05 12:16:09 <caplink811_log> if everthing is fine it should look like this
Sep 05 12:16:12 <caplink811_log> [root@linus bin]$ ll ip*
Sep 05 12:16:12 <caplink811_log> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   16 Jun 13 12:52 ipkg -> /usr/bin/ipkg-cl
Sep 05 12:16:12 <caplink811_log> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 3372 Jan  1  1970 ipkg-cl
Sep 05 12:16:18 <caplink811_log> in /usr/bin
Sep 05 12:18:07 <es`Fatboy> ipkg-cl got that one
Sep 05 12:18:19 <es`Fatboy> in that dir
Sep 05 12:19:03 <caplink811_log> ln -s /usr/bin/ipkg-cl /usr/bin/ipkg does the same as the unsling script
Sep 05 12:19:34 <caplink811_log> your could try this, or reunsling
Sep 05 12:19:50 <es`Fatboy> oki
Sep 05 12:19:52 <es`Fatboy> tnx
Sep 05 12:19:56 <caplink811_log> np
Sep 05 12:20:25 <es`Fatboy> whoho !!!!!!
Sep 05 12:20:27 <es`Fatboy> tnx
Sep 05 12:20:31 <es`Fatboy> now it is working
Sep 05 12:28:14 <es`Fatboy> tnx agin
Sep 05 12:28:15 <es`Fatboy> cya
Sep 05 14:41:39 <NSLU2-IRC> hi
Sep 05 14:43:33 <tobo_ger> someaone around who can help me with a (i hope) short question about the nslu?
Sep 05 14:47:01 <rwhitby-asleep> caplink811_log: never tell people to do that symlink manually - if the ipkg symlink isn't there, then they are not unslung, and almost certainly fill the flash.
Sep 05 15:25:00 <philipjohnson> anybody managed to compile and run courier successfully? 
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