**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 07 02:59:56 2005 Oct 07 06:20:23 hi **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 07 11:24:33 2005 Oct 07 12:23:15 hola Oct 07 12:23:18 anyone awake? Oct 07 12:26:12 ~ask Oct 07 12:26:15 If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes. Oct 07 12:26:26 heh Oct 07 12:26:27 ok Oct 07 12:26:52 so realistically speaking, how well suited is the nslu2 to be a server Oct 07 12:27:07 ie bind/ssh/syslog-ng/etc Oct 07 12:27:18 as far as performance is concerned Oct 07 12:28:28 [root@linus root]$ uptime Oct 07 12:28:28 21:27:05 up 112 days, 1:17, 0 users, load average: 1.18, 1.09, 1.03 Oct 07 12:28:40 stable, with uNSLUng5.5 Oct 07 12:29:05 wow Oct 07 12:29:07 working for me as meida streaming server, cvs server, file server, ssh server Oct 07 12:29:26 would you consider it slow? Oct 07 12:29:32 botserv ;-), miau is running also on the slug Oct 07 12:29:57 i'm considering using it to replace my tower Oct 07 12:30:02 that depends on netio, and thats is typical around 4MB/sec Oct 07 12:30:09 basically all the above stuff Oct 07 12:30:18 plus php/perl/mysql/apache Oct 07 12:30:30 and i'm considering ssl-explorer Oct 07 12:30:43 running nly for testing, hm, media wiki, and omwiki are, yes, slow Oct 07 12:30:56 pmwiki Oct 07 12:31:11 so the apache piece is slow? Oct 07 12:31:23 i guess ssl is out of the question Oct 07 12:31:50 i haven't done any tuning, running as came out of the ipk, there might be some tuning possibles Oct 07 12:32:00 did u overclock? Oct 07 12:32:51 no, that would destroy my uptime, but i'm thinking about debslug, so i must shut down, and than its time to cut of the resistor Oct 07 12:33:06 lol Oct 07 12:33:10 uptime is king!!! Oct 07 12:33:11 ;) Oct 07 12:33:18 ;) Oct 07 12:33:36 i gues 80 some odd bux to tinker aint bad Oct 07 12:33:56 primerary, i hadn't much time to test and do things, so it's a good thing that the slug is still stable and do what it/she should Oct 07 12:34:50 has anyone tryed to attach a lcd-display? Oct 07 12:35:51 if you want to learn something about *X, or wnat a cheap nas device with advanced possibilities, than the 80 $'s are a good investment Oct 07 12:36:17 well i know enuff about *nix Oct 07 12:36:22 just yesterday, imho, cheef_daniel is working on it Oct 07 12:36:44 but i wanna know if i can replaec my hot as hell tower w/ a lower power consumption thing Oct 07 12:37:00 yeah but I am waiting for my converter Oct 07 12:37:04 i'm on a lower profile/power trip Oct 07 12:37:25 hell bent on replacing all my crap w/ mini-itx or some variation Oct 07 12:37:47 well, to fit all your needs, it may be the best, to test ;) the slug Oct 07 12:37:53 hehe Oct 07 12:38:08 ok now the real question Oct 07 12:38:21 can i get bitchx running on it? ;) Oct 07 12:38:22 the answer is 42 Oct 07 12:38:37 that and tcsh' Oct 07 12:39:30 cheef_daniel: did you tried any lcd? Oct 07 12:40:17 not, yet because I a need a converter, it should come tomorrow Oct 07 12:40:37 cheef_daniel: which kind of display are you trying to use and which converter are you waiting for? Oct 07 12:40:43 I tryed lcdproc on the nslu2 and it works Oct 07 12:41:21 I wait for an USB2Serial converter Oct 07 12:41:53 so what's the best deal i can score on a slug nowadays? Oct 07 12:42:01 I want to use my old palm-device as lcd display, so I have a keybord on it for controlling the nslu2 Oct 07 12:42:19 lcdproc does work with many lcd-displays Oct 07 12:42:25 well, that bitchx at the slug, in other words, yes ;-) Oct 07 12:42:48 tcsh? Oct 07 12:43:05 cheef_daniel: will you connect the palm via lcdproc? Oct 07 12:43:12 yes Oct 07 12:43:27 didn't know lcdproc was able to do that! Oct 07 12:43:42 tcsh, dunno, imho, there is no ipk for it Oct 07 12:43:44 and some proc on the palm which simulates a matrixOrbital Oct 07 12:43:50 hrm Oct 07 12:43:56 i guess there's always source Oct 07 12:44:20 cheef_daniel: do you have an url for this matrixorbital emulator? Oct 07 12:44:30 yes one moment Oct 07 12:44:35 thanks Oct 07 12:44:46 http://palmorb.sourceforge.net/ Oct 07 12:45:11 I tryed palmorb on my palm together with windows+smartLCD and it worked Oct 07 12:47:12 thanks Oct 07 12:47:16 I think it should work with lcdproc to because it can control matrixOrbital-displays too Oct 07 12:47:56 but that can I test first when I got the converter Oct 07 12:48:34 i plan to add a graphic display to my slug.. haven't choiced which one yet Oct 07 12:49:47 I don't know about graphical displays, I have only one with hd44780 controler Oct 07 12:50:46 I think lcdproc can use graphical displays too Oct 07 12:51:43 dwery: here is some project about that: http://www.robijn.net/lcdproc/?continue=yes Oct 07 12:52:06 the problem is to find a display that looks nicely on my car Oct 07 12:53:41 you use nslu2 in a car? Oct 07 12:53:49 for an autopilot? Oct 07 12:55:34 ehehe Oct 07 12:55:35 no :) Oct 07 12:55:43 it's just my mp3 player Oct 07 12:55:47 plus some other thingas Oct 07 12:55:50 things Oct 07 12:55:55 which player do you use? Oct 07 12:55:56 logger, gps Oct 07 12:55:58 tmc Oct 07 12:56:11 mpd Oct 07 12:56:17 (musicpd) Oct 07 12:56:21 i'm still assembling the player Oct 07 12:56:24 mdp, me too Oct 07 12:56:54 I yesterday about 6 hours to get some noise out of my nslu2 Oct 07 12:56:58 need Oct 07 12:57:39 I use an usb/audio adapter.. works fine Oct 07 12:58:04 I have connected my USB-5.1 headset directly Oct 07 12:58:19 and it works now Oct 07 12:58:36 but not with alsa-ouput Oct 07 12:58:49 which driver do you use? Oct 07 12:58:51 alsa Oct 07 12:59:04 in the mpd-config too? Oct 07 12:59:23 i didn't touched the mpd config at all, it worked out of the box (debian little-endian) Oct 07 13:00:14 hm, maybe my USB-headset needs an extra-configuration Oct 07 13:00:35 strange.. do you have an lsusb output for me to check? Oct 07 13:00:54 it works only with ao drivers, when I am using alsa I have every seconds some interruptions Oct 07 13:01:08 yes lsub, moment Oct 07 13:02:36 i have alsa drivers and oss emulation compile din, so mpd is maybe using ao.. i'll have to check. Oct 07 13:03:11 http://pastebin.ca/24873 Oct 07 13:05:53 it's the usua; c-media chip.. shoudl work fine with alsa usb driver and ao. which driver are you using at the usb level? Oct 07 13:06:17 how can I determine this? Oct 07 13:06:52 from the kernel you compiled or from the messages you get when you plug in the adapter Oct 07 13:07:35 the driver is called snd-usb-audio Oct 07 13:07:47 it's alsa then Oct 07 13:08:04 i'll try to check which driver is mpd using at audio level Oct 07 13:08:23 i have to go now... if you want to discuss more on this topi we can catch tomorrow.. Oct 07 13:08:44 bye! Oct 07 13:08:49 bye, thanks Oct 07 14:10:40 hello all Oct 07 15:29:17 I can't find php-thttpd on the web where are the sources for it? Oct 07 15:59:58 cheef_daniel any luck? Oct 07 16:13:50 yes it works Oct 07 16:14:26 alsa was not correctly installed Oct 07 16:15:24 the /dev/snd devices and some other missed at the first install Oct 07 16:18:02 but I must use the ao-output in mpd.conf, oss makes this scratched sound, and alsa has every few seconds a very short interruption Oct 07 16:18:29 but now problems with ao Oct 07 16:18:39 no Oct 07 16:21:14 glad to hear it :) Oct 07 16:21:27 someone should enter something into the wiki about this Oct 07 16:22:39 you mean about the missing alsa devices? Oct 07 16:22:47 about getting sound working in general Oct 07 16:23:59 I see there is an topic about this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SlugAsAudioPlayer Oct 07 16:24:42 but as you see, that doesn't go in to much detail Oct 07 16:25:28 yes Oct 07 16:35:27 do you have a webserver on your slug? Oct 07 16:35:39 I can't find one with apache Oct 07 16:35:48 eh I mean php Oct 07 17:07:05 I have added my device to qbik Oct 07 17:23:11 nope, no web server Oct 07 17:27:44 when I have my palm connected I will write a wiki "standaloneMP3 machine" or something like this Oct 07 19:23:45 hi Oct 07 19:24:43 in #linux nobody want talk with me, so I ask here: how to catch errors to a logfile when executing "make" Oct 07 19:24:52 ? Oct 07 20:19:12 any news on getting man pages working? Oct 07 20:19:26 no idea Oct 07 20:20:06 but do you know how I can rebuild a missing kernel-module? Oct 07 20:20:30 what do you mean, missing? Oct 07 20:20:45 stv680 should be in 2.6 but it's not in openslug Oct 07 20:20:59 I have only find the header files for it Oct 07 20:21:14 a webcam? Oct 07 20:21:15 ^_^ Oct 07 20:21:24 I think, when the kernel was build.. yes Oct 07 20:22:42 there is this crosscompile-package Oct 07 20:23:37 I have installed it, and build the openslug kernel, but I have no idea how to get this driver Oct 07 20:25:37 hmm Oct 07 20:26:45 so in the source for the kernel which you got from openslug.org, you have found no files for the stv680 module? Oct 07 20:27:11 sure, the header files (stv680.h) Oct 07 20:27:23 which are stubs? Oct 07 20:27:32 stubs? Oct 07 20:28:32 downloading the source now.. Oct 07 20:29:11 you mean with 'stubs' that there are missing some parts? Oct 07 20:29:38 placeholder; it means that this distribution doesn't have the actual module Oct 07 20:30:56 yes the module is not build when someone builds the kernel-sources Oct 07 20:32:54 where are the header files? Oct 07 20:34:46 openslug/tmp/work/openslug-kernel-2.6.14-rc2-r5.1/linux-2.6.13/.pc/2.6.14-rc2/drivers/usb/media/ Oct 07 20:35:20 are you working from openslug-2.7-beta-source.tar.gz? Oct 07 20:35:40 no I build it with crosscompiler Oct 07 20:35:51 but I have found the .c Oct 07 20:36:18 I downloaded the sources too, from openslug.org Oct 07 20:38:37 I think that are not the kernel-sources (openslug.org) Oct 07 21:07:08 or do you know where the kernel-config is located? Oct 07 21:07:23 so I can enable this module? Oct 07 21:07:38 I never build a kernel **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 08 02:59:56 2005