**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 02:59:56 2005 Nov 04 04:09:33 hello, could anybody help solving my problem with pppoe? Nov 04 04:13:57 Is it possible to use PPPoE without to modify/recompile the kernel? Nov 04 04:17:20 seika: unslung or openslug btw. Im not sure I ever tried pppoe, from any machine. You need stuff in kernel? No userland utils? Nov 04 04:19:05 widrone: Is there a kernel module available which provide pppoe support? Nov 04 04:23:25 seika: yes there is, in case you are using an usb dsl/cable box, you should see if there is a linux driver for that also Nov 04 04:25:37 ferrix: I have an USB-To-Ethernet adapter and connect my DSL modem box to it. Nov 04 04:26:55 I installed ppp and ppp-oe package, configured the pppd using rp-pppoe plugin, but if I try to establish the PPPoE connection I get the error "failed to create socket: protocol not support by kernel". Nov 04 04:27:16 seika: Not in the stock kernel that I am aware of. Im not sure of the 2.6.14 buildt kernel yet thu. Nov 04 04:27:48 seika: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/PPPoE but its from June. Nov 04 04:28:16 seika: so you're using pppoe on your home network... why? Nov 04 04:28:54 widrone: Yes I had read the article already, but it needs to compile a custom kernel. Nov 04 04:29:11 some providers force you to use pppoe, but you should fend them off with a gw anyways. Nov 04 04:29:58 ferrix: Why not? :) ... I just want to configure the NSLU2 as a DSL router for my network. Nov 04 04:30:19 seika: Yes, but if you are lucky maybe a stock kernel in the future will have them modularised. Nov 04 04:30:35 and you can't route plain ethernet? Nov 04 04:30:45 seika: Ah, so you are using the slug to fend them off. As the gtw itself. Nov 04 04:30:54 widrone: This would be nice, but I need today :) Nov 04 04:30:59 widrone: Right. Nov 04 04:31:54 ferrix: No, I need a dedicated connection to my DSL modem. I connect my DSL modem right to my ethernet adapter. Nov 04 04:33:18 ferrix: I have a similiar setup on a XBox running Xebian (It is a Linux distribution based on Debian). Nov 04 04:33:37 yeah, I know what it is, I have it in my xbox Nov 04 04:34:32 ferrix: But Debian provides an package called pppoe. And if I install this package I get a pppoe daemon which established the connection to my DSL modem within userspace. Nov 04 04:35:02 slugs and xboxes, dont we all got them =) Nov 04 04:35:02 ferrix: Cause on the XBox I didn't load the pppoe specific modules just the ppp modules. Nov 04 04:35:16 ferrix: But I can't find this package for OpenSLUG Nov 04 04:35:25 seika: stock kernel for slug are not buildt with that option as a module in kernel I think. Nov 04 04:35:41 The only device I'm missing, is the Linksys WLAN router :) Nov 04 04:35:56 Like I said, maybe in future kernels. You could look at the .config in cvs to see if the 2.6.14 got it maybe. Nov 04 04:37:14 seika: already running ipodlinux? Nov 04 04:37:47 seika: Linux on IPOD? No, I don't that something like this even exists. Nov 04 04:38:07 can you tell should the default kernel of openslug 2.7b work with zd1211 module? Nov 04 04:38:22 seika: why not? Nov 04 04:38:30 seika: Sure you can. Nov 04 04:39:01 though it's really experimental and works well for older pods Nov 04 04:39:19 but there are lots of things you actually can hack Nov 04 04:39:30 linux in nano could be nice Nov 04 04:39:34 alump: # CONFIG_USB_ZD1201 is not set Nov 04 04:39:50 alump: Linux 2.6.12.2 Nov 04 04:40:21 is that a problem? Nov 04 04:40:28 ferrix, widrone: Sounds interessting, but I didn't even had an IPOD, maybe in the future. What microcontroller runs on IPOD? Nov 04 04:41:36 seika: http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page Nov 04 04:41:50 ferrix: Thanks, bookmarked! Nov 04 04:42:11 Where can I browse the OpenSLUG kernel source code? Nov 04 04:42:27 i tougth that the problem is missing support for wireless interfaces Nov 04 04:42:57 zd1211 loads up fine but no wireless extension what so ever Nov 04 04:43:30 alump: Ah, this was just from my system, you have more luck. Nov 04 04:44:04 alump: wireless-tools Nov 04 04:44:10 yes, i have it Nov 04 04:44:49 and config_usb_zd1211 shoudn't be set. it isn't in the kernel or "a default module" Nov 04 04:45:22 alump: I see its in the package feed now yes, thanks. Was not aware of that. Nov 04 04:45:36 :) Nov 04 04:45:58 alump: "a default module"? Nov 04 04:46:12 forger ;) Nov 04 04:46:16 forget Nov 04 04:47:28 too much fighting with this piece of **** make serious brain damages Nov 04 04:48:30 but, works fine in windows. anywhere else: not. Nov 04 04:49:19 seika: nslu area of the sf.net cvs . Nov 04 04:50:59 alump: I just noticed you asked for 1211 and I answered 1201, so I was off anyways. sorry about that. Nov 04 04:51:17 np Nov 04 04:55:36 widrone: Now I try to build the rp-pppoe package by hand. It should produce the pppoe userland server, which I hope works without kernel support. Nov 04 04:56:52 probably i should try unstable openslug. maybe it works better Nov 04 05:00:55 Oh, now I get this .recovery file thing. Damn that is annoying, but its probably there for a reason =) Nov 04 05:01:22 is the CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS set in openslug 2.7 beta? - that was the question i was trying to make Nov 04 05:02:16 alump: CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y , os2.7b Nov 04 05:02:48 ok, so that isn't the problem Nov 04 05:06:05 widrone: It works. Nov 04 05:07:49 seika: Userland pppoe did it? Grreat! Nice to know, but like I said, never really needed it yet. Nov 04 05:10:15 this just looks stupid: Nov 04 05:10:18 root@george:~# iwconfig wlan0 Nov 04 05:10:18 wlan0 no wireless extensions. Nov 04 05:16:12 ok, now it works. by the words of homer simpson: DOH! Nov 04 05:16:45 alump: It had no wiext but you managed to configure it anyway then? Nov 04 05:17:58 all i needed to do was a) set addresses with ifconfig, b) then (and only then) set wlan up Nov 04 05:19:55 some oddity with this driver comperated to other linux wireless drivers Nov 04 05:21:48 http://zd1211.ath.cx/zd1211: - this site saved me (see the bugs part) Nov 04 05:33:03 yes, and now it works with whole opendebianslug packet. nice. Nov 04 05:40:54 And I was going to play with my ipod and slug now, # CONFIG_HFSPLUS_FS is not set. Not going to happen from stock kernel it seems. =) Nov 04 05:42:22 if might now order nokia 770. need for new linux toy ;) Nov 04 05:46:10 ah yeah... they were released yesterday... Nov 04 05:47:23 yep Nov 04 05:47:57 well... I'm already bored with it Nov 04 05:51:06 or i might add extra usb ports to nslu2. but the 500mA limit is just annoying Nov 04 05:51:43 alump: connect a 770 to the second usb port... ;) Nov 04 05:51:59 :) Nov 04 05:53:50 this wlan thing consumes 200mA, so there should be enough left for usb memory stick. right? Nov 04 05:59:22 where? Nov 04 06:01:46 nslu2, it doesn't have too much power reserves Nov 04 06:07:42 use a hub Nov 04 06:08:23 no, that's the ugly solution ;) Nov 04 06:09:33 and i have a hope to fit this wlan thing inside nslu2's case Nov 04 13:32:31 Why do I get poor netio speeds with the nslu? Nov 04 13:32:53 according to the Wiki I should be getting 11.5 MB/s Nov 04 13:33:06 I'm barely getting half... Nov 04 13:33:14 overclocked? Nov 04 13:33:52 yes Nov 04 13:34:39 could it be a duplex issue? If so, how would I find out? Nov 04 13:40:33 ideas anyone? Nov 04 13:40:52 use a switch, and try to fix your boxes on 100mb/hd Nov 04 13:43:41 I'm using a switch Nov 04 13:43:52 (actually a wireless router, but it's not a hub) Nov 04 13:48:02 netio being traced over wireless? Nov 04 13:48:29 yes Nov 04 13:48:43 but it's a belkin pre-n Nov 04 13:48:57 with a theoretical max of 108 Mbps Nov 04 13:49:31 so I don't think that's the limiting factor...the TX and RX rates are both reportes as 108 Mbps Nov 04 13:49:36 reported Nov 04 13:49:43 morning ByronT, everything's fine? Nov 04 13:50:12 I'm alive... working my butt off though Nov 04 13:50:21 gna Nov 04 13:50:47 jens I would want to run a netio trace via wired for comparison Nov 04 13:51:16 k, I'm on it Nov 04 13:51:29 I have a pre-n (well MIMO) device as well and see somewhere around 11MB/s Nov 04 13:57:15 right, I'm back Nov 04 13:57:24 turns out it's the router Nov 04 13:57:27 aargh Nov 04 13:57:29 well, running netio client on opendebian against uNSLUng-5.5 slug via wrt54g gives around 2.5MB/s Nov 04 13:58:02 caplink: my pre-n should be 2x that...but it's not Nov 04 13:58:46 jeN, sorry ??? Nov 04 14:01:23 phew...back Nov 04 14:01:26 (finally) Nov 04 14:02:06 so it's not a NSLU2 issue after all...but the fault of some pre-n weirdness Nov 04 14:02:55 maybe I should just flash it with the linksys firmware and see what happens :) (other people have apparently done this with success) Nov 04 14:04:07 ??? pre-n ??? Nov 04 14:04:29 yeah, it's what Belkin call their MIMO stuff Nov 04 14:04:53 aja Nov 04 14:05:45 yeah I have the wrt54gx from linksys... coverage/bandwidth is unbelievably better than the standard g / gs fare from linksys Nov 04 14:06:03 the wrt54gx is supposedly identical to my pre-n Nov 04 14:06:19 as I said, people have even used the linksys firmware on the belkin Nov 04 14:07:00 could it be WPA-PSK that's slowing me down this much though? Nov 04 14:07:38 yeah, the uNSLUng-5.5 running on the wan side, win on lan side against opendebian on lan gives a throughput around 10.5MB/s Nov 04 14:09:20 caplink: I just tested running a cable from my computer to the belkin and got the same type of number... Nov 04 14:11:36 it seems, that i've to drop the wrt54g and have to run all machines at the same subnet, what will increase my network speed dramatically Nov 04 14:11:49 which means it's something to do with the wireless. yet ByronT (whose router is practically identical) does not experience the same problem Nov 04 14:12:08 I never said I tested over my wireless... ;) Nov 04 14:12:15 oh, right Nov 04 14:12:24 I have 1GB switch Nov 04 14:12:49 if you've 5 minutes i could switch on the laptop to test it via wifi/wpa Nov 04 14:13:11 yes please Nov 04 14:13:17 bbiam Nov 04 14:15:20 thanks Nov 04 14:21:25 ByronT, well i've got around 620kB/s what's ~50%, cause my usb-wifi stick is only 11mb/s Nov 04 14:21:41 sorry, won't disturb you Nov 04 14:22:47 you're not disturbing me.... heck with 4 computers on my desk, how could I work if I couldn't multitask just a bit? Nov 04 14:22:58 ;) Nov 04 14:24:05 so, it could be that wpa overhead cost around 50% bandwith, dunno Nov 04 14:24:19 ok, thanks very much Nov 04 14:24:34 np Nov 04 15:24:46 hi - i read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/UsingAUSBHub and I just wanted to check something which i think is a little ambiguous Nov 04 15:25:15 with unslung, can i attach multiple ext2/3 drives to a port? or is that only available with openslug Nov 04 15:32:29 only 1 drive at one port with uNLSUng Nov 04 15:34:36 so to use drives connected to a hub, which is in turn connected to a port on the nslu2, i need to use the openslug firmware? Nov 04 15:36:23 if you want to use one drive at a port on a usb hub, that's ok, but two drives on a hub, that's impossible Nov 04 15:37:06 so http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/UsingAUSBHub is incorrect then? Nov 04 15:37:35 * caplink811_log is heading off to bed now... bye, until tomorrow Nov 04 23:53:54 \name DaKeeper Nov 04 23:55:19 can someone help me be 100% that I unslung properly and am booting off of HDD Nov 04 23:56:01 I'm not confident of the readout useng th DF command.. Nov 04 23:57:30 is it supposed th match the usage size as in FAQ or as long as I see "rootfs" I am safe Nov 05 00:01:51 is there anyone here? Nov 05 01:44:10 Hello, is it possible to add 802.11 usb to my NSLU2? Nov 05 01:44:58 And a usb sound card? Nov 05 01:45:47 I want to use it to deliver sound from computers in my house to my stereo system. Sort of like squeezebox only I get to build it myself. Nov 05 01:45:59 And I get to use whatever player I want. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2005