**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 05 02:59:57 2005
Nov 05 05:18:32 <ferrix> is there an uptime command for unslung?
Nov 05 05:22:43 <caplink811_log> aeh, uptime
Nov 05 05:23:35 <caplink811_log> http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=uptime&searchtype=file&section=
Nov 05 07:17:35 <Methuselah1> hi everyone
Nov 05 07:18:34 <Methuselah1> not sure if this is the right place but is anyone else experiencing problems with ipkg download today (i'm running Unslung 5)
Nov 05 07:20:32 <Methuselah1> i can do an ipkg update fine but trying to install ssh or samba results in an error
Nov 05 10:02:07 <widrone> esalazar: Its totaly possible, but may not be easy. It really depends on what sort of USB stuff, and you skill/willingness to muck around with some code/configuration.
Nov 05 10:19:36 <mika--> good evening
Nov 05 10:19:43 <mika--> some dutch people here ?
Nov 05 10:20:34 <mika--> ipkg install  does not work today ..is there a problem ?
Nov 05 10:21:10 <widrone> mika--: Evening there. Im not dutch thu, but maybe I can help you anyways. 
Nov 05 10:22:55 <mika--> widrone: ipkg wil not work it give`s an error
Nov 05 10:23:10 <mika--> example ipkg install screen
Nov 05 10:23:29 <mika--> can i paste the error here ? widrone 
Nov 05 10:23:58 <widrone> mika--: See that someone was having trouble earlier today too, but I dont really use ipkg myself so I cant tell really. 
Nov 05 10:24:32 <widrone> mika--: If its a one liner, paste the usefull part  =)
Nov 05 10:24:35 <mika--> so maybe there is a server down
Nov 05 10:24:46 <mika--> ok i wil past widrone 
Nov 05 10:25:11 <mika--> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/screen_4.0.2-2_armeb.ipk
Nov 05 10:25:13 <mika--> Nothing to be done
Nov 05 10:25:16 <mika--> An error ocurred, return value: 22.
Nov 05 10:25:47 <mika--> When i open the link in firefox he can not display it
Nov 05 10:26:17 <widrone> Hm, server is up. But that seems to be a wrong path maybe.
Nov 05 10:26:34 <mika--> is that a fault here on my side ?
Nov 05 10:26:47 <caplink811_log> nope, directory is empty
Nov 05 10:27:12 <caplink811_log> seems there's a problem on the repository
Nov 05 10:27:17 <widrone> Maybe the path is OK, but yes the dir sure is empty. 
Nov 05 10:28:06 <widrone> And its datestamped earlier today. 
Nov 05 10:28:14 <mika--> ok so where can i report this bug ? or wil it automatic report ?
Nov 05 10:35:10 <widrone> Could be a reason it is like that, seems to only be for unslung too. Openslug repos seems availible. 
Nov 05 10:35:41 <mika--> yes i use unslug
Nov 05 10:35:48 <widrone> mika--: Not that it is helping you. =(
Nov 05 10:36:02 <mika--> what is the diffrent with openslug then ?
Nov 05 10:38:23 <widrone> mika--: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/HomePage really! 
Nov 05 10:38:41 <widrone> mika--: unslung is suppose to be a lot like the stock kernel/firmware 
Nov 05 10:39:20 <widrone> mika--: openslug is getting more like a "propper" linux, but better to read then to hear my silly circas here/ 
Nov 05 10:40:10 <mika--> but i read this : If you are new to Linux, you are better off trying to use the Unslung firmware before attempting to use OpenSlug
Nov 05 10:41:02 <mika--> I use Ubuntu now for a year and know a litle from linux 
Nov 05 10:41:35 <widrone> mika--: Yes, since un. gives you that nice to use webpage where you can do everything. open. give you a shell + nix tools on the terminal. 
Nov 05 10:42:34 <mika--> i buy the nslu for record movies from my satelite receiver and try to make / apache /screen,irssi / and a imap mailserver working
Nov 05 10:43:16 <mika--> ok unslug is beter for me..i need howto`s lol
Nov 05 10:47:25 <mika--> but are all here using openslug ?
Nov 05 10:48:10 <widrone> mika--: Im running openslug as firmware, but Im using that as a "bootloader" for a debian install im poking aroun with now. 
Nov 05 10:49:10 <widrone> mika--: I started with the unslung, but for me it was not "linuxy" enough, although its great for disksharing and "just working". 
Nov 05 10:49:26 <mika--> so u have a debian install on ur harddrive from ur nslu2 ?
Nov 05 10:49:44 <mika--> i miss the tab function in unslug
Nov 05 10:49:57 <mika--> i like that so much in linux
Nov 05 10:51:07 <widrone> mika--: Openslug in the firmware on the nslu2 that boots debian from an external disk (or memstick). 
Nov 05 10:51:48 <widrone> mika--: Lets put it this way, I have reflashed my slugs a couple of times already =)
Nov 05 10:53:01 <Methuselah1> hi
Nov 05 10:58:22 <mika--> it sounds nice widrone :D
Nov 05 10:59:48 <widrone> mika--: Try this URL for a bit more on the differences: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/HowToGetInvolved
Nov 05 11:00:25 <widrone> mika--: There is a bit more tech explanation there about some differences, and a bit less warnings... 
Nov 05 11:02:16 <widrone> mika--: btw, there isnt any ipkg command to update the cached info on packages, maybe you need to run that to update on the path to the packages? (Im just guessing here)
Nov 05 11:07:00 <mika--> yes i have used ipkg update a few times
Nov 05 11:09:16 <mika--> Maybe it wil work tomorow again widrone .. 
Nov 05 11:10:04 <widrone> mika--: probably will. 
Nov 05 11:11:00 <mika--> I hope so .. i wil make it work so i can use my server as desktop pc for my daugther
Nov 05 11:26:32 <John_S> Hi all! Just a quick question, is there any prob with the packages on the repository for the last 24 hours? I've been getting "Not found" errors... :(
Nov 05 11:28:40 <widrone> John_S: Seems to be down... Its been reported by 2-3 ppl. 
Nov 05 11:30:10 <John_S> widrone: Thanks... I was starting to think that I had broke something, but the error was on the wget command itself.
Nov 05 11:31:47 <widrone> Its being worked at atm. Wait 5 min, try again . 
Nov 05 11:34:12 <widrone> There was a complete rebuild last night and maybe master rsync hasnt' caught up.
Nov 05 11:36:56 <John_S> widrone: Ok, I'll do that... yesterday I has been able to install OpenSSH and a couple of other packages but today I was not getting any luck
Nov 05 11:38:18 <mika--> yes John_S i have the same
Nov 05 11:38:59 <John_S> thanks mika, I shall try tomorrow then
Nov 05 11:39:32 <mika--> do u know how u make a swap on ur harddisk ?
Nov 05 11:40:44 <widrone> mika--: try with a swap on flie perhaps, that way you dont need to muck with fdisk  
Nov 05 11:41:26 <widrone> mika--: file* there is goo HOWTO on ne to do that, or try man mkswap 
Nov 05 11:42:54 <mika--> maybe it is beter to do fdisk on my disk and make a swap partition or not ?
Nov 05 11:43:15 <mika--> there is no data on the disk only someprograms
Nov 05 11:45:38 <John_S> widrone: I'm a new user of NSLU2 and unslung (sorry to bother with this trivia), but in spite of being really impressed with it's capabilities, is there any rumours about any version update from Cisco, like an NSLU3 with more memory and a more powerfull CPU?
Nov 05 11:57:21 <widrone> John_S: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DS101/HomePage and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/NAS100d/HomePage maybe?
Nov 05 11:58:29 <John_S> widrone: thanks, gonna take a look
Nov 05 12:11:27 <John_S> widrone: Still no luck with the packages, I'll check tomorrow. Thanks again for your help. Over and Out
Nov 05 13:49:51 <widrone> Im being told that the unslung ran out of space on the build disk, and the timestamps got screwed, and libstdc++ failed to rebuild, and the feed got blatted. help by contributing to the new HD we need :)
Nov 05 13:55:11 <widrone> In other words, it needs a rebuild so try again later. 
Nov 05 13:56:28 <ka6sox> might be a day or so...so don't hold your breath.
Nov 05 14:03:09 <[-TDO-]Sames> hi. Can anybody here help me? I try to change the web interface a little (just want to add the "slug" logo to all pages). found the file for the initial page, the "change password" page, the initial page after login as user . . but as soon as one opens any folder. . no idea which file to edit .. seems to be none of the files in the "http" folder
Nov 05 14:04:53 <caplink811_log> there should be a faq or howto on www.nslu2-linux.org
Nov 05 14:07:11 <caplink811_log> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/CustomizingYourLinksysAdminPages may help
Nov 05 14:11:26 <[-TDO-]Sames> well, yes. changing the logo is the easy way.  .but  . .i want the slug logo in the blue area on the right .. works for all pages but those pages that actually show the contents of the user's folders.
Nov 05 14:12:55 <[-TDO-]Sames> (yes ,I *could* just change the logo, I know ;) but sometimes what one can do, is not what one wants to do )
Nov 05 14:15:15 <[-TDO-]Sames> http://84.174.20.36:10080 
Nov 05 14:16:18 <[-TDO-]Sames> the public folder shows what I mean . .the slug is not there. . which page would I have to edit to get the slug *there* (and, I assume, on all other folder contents showing pages)
Nov 05 14:17:02 <[-TDO-]Sames> (yes, a more academic problem . .nothign serious. . just drives me a little crazy that I can not find out . .)
Nov 05 14:25:05 <caplink811_log> one part is br_shares.htm, and the other is one of the *.cgi
Nov 05 14:26:35 <[-TDO-]Sames> teh br_shares.htm i have edited already, these are the "initial" pages after login
Nov 05 14:28:00 <[-TDO-]Sames> hm .. editing the *.cgi. . should be the login or more likely index.cgi. . k, will try to figure taht out. thanks  .. will try my luck
Nov 05 14:29:48 <esalazar_> Hello.
Nov 05 14:30:17 <esalazar_> Anyone use 802.11 with nslu2?
Nov 05 14:30:56 <[-TDO-]Sames> (only via WLAN/LAN router. . not via USB Adapter)
Nov 05 14:31:51 <esalazar_> Why?  Because there is no supported usb wifi adapter?  Several are listed as supported for linux. 
Nov 05 14:34:08 <Zhyla> esalazar:  it's so much easier to just use a 802.11 AP, they're so cheap
Nov 05 14:34:16 <alump> i use zd1211 802.11g-adapter
Nov 05 14:34:28 <[-TDO-]Sames> no, just for practical reasons. the NSLU2 is located jsut 20cm away from my router which has a free LAN Port ^^
Nov 05 14:35:27 <esalazar_> alump, ah, so it does work.  I don't want to use and AP because: 1) I already have an AP but it is nowhere near my stereo 2) (my next question is about usb audio) I want this thing to be descreet and used as an audio server so I don't want a ton of extra hardware hanging around my stereo.
Nov 05 14:35:50 <alump> it works with openslug2.7b
Nov 05 14:36:28 <alump> ...after looong fighting with it ;)
Nov 05 14:36:57 <esalazar_> any links to how you got it to work?  Or could you recommend a better dongle that would be easier?
Nov 05 14:37:17 <alump> well it's easy with that too
Nov 05 14:37:45 <esalazar_> Was the probem with the adapter or with openslug?  For example, would I have no problems if this were my desktop and a recent distro?
Nov 05 14:38:01 <alump> problem was the opensource driver
Nov 05 14:38:36 <alump> and my stupidy ;)
Nov 05 14:38:49 <esalazar_> Hmm.  So other adapters with better linux support should in theory be no problem then?
Nov 05 14:39:42 <alump> well, don't know about other adapters. zd1211 just has a ready module to be downloaded via "ipkg update && ipkg install zd1211"
Nov 05 14:40:24 <esalazar_> Cool.  So is there an email thread you can point me at so I don't have the same trouble you did?
Nov 05 14:40:50 <esalazar_> Sounds like it should have been easy in retrospect?
Nov 05 14:41:34 <alump> http://zd1211.ath.cx/zd1211: - bug: ifconfig up needed before using iwconfig
Nov 05 14:42:22 <alump> when found that page all got easier
Nov 05 14:42:54 <esalazar_> great, thanks.
Nov 05 14:44:34 <alump> so all you need to install is wireless-tools and zd1211
Nov 05 14:45:09 <esalazar_> So, anyone know about good audio dongles that would work with nslu2-linux?  I was looking at the turlebeach usb audio micro but can't find any linux info on it.
Nov 05 14:50:56 <Zhyla> esalazar:  the creative one is supported I think
Nov 05 14:54:59 <esalazar_> Zhyla, which one is that?
Nov 05 14:55:21 <Zhyla> it's on the wiki
Nov 05 15:12:33 <b_o_n_e_y> hey :-) anyone runnng openslug here ?
Nov 05 15:14:10 <caplink811_log>  #openslug?
Nov 05 15:14:22 <esalazar_> what is the deal with the miniPCI section on the wiki?  Does that imply that there are unused minipci slots inside the nslu2?  That could be used with nslu2-linux?
Nov 05 15:15:50 <alump> isn't #openslug just-for-devs channel?
Nov 05 15:16:13 <caplink811_log> sorry, you're right
Nov 05 15:16:59 <b_o_n_e_y> I just have some questions about configuring the bnep0 interface 
Nov 05 15:17:14 <alump> and minipci is maybe for asus wl500g
Nov 05 15:17:37 <esalazar_> alump, what is wl500g?
Nov 05 15:18:04 <alump> wireless router? but it uses same packages that nslu2
Nov 05 15:20:54 <esalazar_> so that would mean no, the nslu2 does not have available minipci slots?  Because that would be really nice.
Nov 05 15:21:11 <esalazar_> Hey this asus thing is pretty nice too.  How does it compare to the nslu2?
Nov 05 15:21:53 <alump> no, nslu2 doesn't have minipci
Nov 05 15:22:15 <alump> and asus thing is a wlan-router, doesn't have even usb-ports (am i correct?)
Nov 05 15:23:41 <alump> sorry, it has usb port(s)
Nov 05 15:23:50 <esalazar_> I was just going to say that...
Nov 05 15:24:09 <alump> usb1.1 isn't real usb ;)
Nov 05 15:25:13 <b_o_n_e_y> has anyone had success in getting ifconfig working for bnep0 ? - I'm trying to get bluetooth PAN running but ifconfig barfs
Nov 05 15:25:14 <esalazar_> yeah, no good.
Nov 05 15:26:01 <alump> no bluetooth experience what so ever
Nov 05 15:26:29 <esalazar_> alump, actually there are some versions that do have usb2.0
Nov 05 15:26:51 <alump> esalazar_, ok
Nov 05 15:27:07 <alump> another rev hell (like with wrt54g)
Nov 05 15:27:08 <b_o_n_e_y> ok - np.
Nov 05 15:28:28 <esalazar_> what is bluetooth PAN?
Nov 05 15:29:04 <alump> personal area network?
Nov 05 15:29:38 <b_o_n_e_y> yep
Nov 05 15:29:50 <b_o_n_e_y> I'm trying to use the slug as a bridge for my IPAQ
Nov 05 15:30:24 <b_o_n_e_y> i.e. slug plugged into my router with a bluetooth dongle
Nov 05 15:30:32 <b_o_n_e_y> and then bluetooth connection to my ipaq
Nov 05 15:30:57 <b_o_n_e_y> but ifconfig bails when configuring the interface
Nov 05 15:31:00 <esalazar_> is there a wl 500g expert or web page anyone knows of?  This thing is pretty damn nice also.
Nov 05 15:38:36 <esalazar_> What is the differnce between openslug and unslung?
Nov 05 15:39:07 <b_o_n_e_y> openslug is more like a normal unix box than unslung
Nov 05 15:39:26 <b_o_n_e_y> there's nothing installed by default (i.e. no linksys interface)
Nov 05 15:39:52 <b_o_n_e_y> I started with unslung but got quickly fustrated by it
Nov 05 15:40:18 <b_o_n_e_y> imho, openlsug is much better - no rubbish just a nice clean slate to start with
Nov 05 15:41:15 <esalazar_> does openslug maintain existing interface/functionality of the nslu2?
Nov 05 15:41:32 <alump> opendebianslug is the way ;)
Nov 05 15:41:48 <b_o_n_e_y> do you mean sharing files etc ?
Nov 05 15:42:51 <Zhyla> alump:  how is the debian version better?
Nov 05 15:44:15 <alump> well more packages etc etc
Nov 05 15:44:26 <esalazar_> Well the 500g is tempting but there doesn't seem to be any community or info and I just want this thing to work.
Nov 05 15:45:22 <caplink811_log> esalazar,  chupa.nl was a good source, now it is on wl500g.info
Nov 05 15:46:13 <caplink811_log> sorry, esalazar_,  chupa.nl was a good source, now it is on wl500g.info
Nov 05 15:46:29 <Zhyla> alump:  like all the regular debian packages are available?
Nov 05 15:46:48 <alump> not all, but almoust all are in debronas
Nov 05 15:47:10 <Zhyla> how about hardware support?  same as openslug?
Nov 05 15:47:24 <alump> well openslug = opendebianslug's kernel
Nov 05 15:47:48 <alump> first it loads openslug and then chroots debian
Nov 05 15:50:43 <b_o_n_e_y> I'm not sure I have space for 16k+ packages on a 256Mb USB key ;-)
Nov 05 15:51:43 <alump> i now have 120GB harddrive for debian ;) i should try to fit all to 1GB memorystick
Nov 05 15:59:43 <b_o_n_e_y> well, if it can get my bluetooth bridge working I'll install it 
Nov 05 16:01:26 <alump> "if it doesn't work in openslug, it will not work in debian"
Nov 05 16:01:49 <b_o_n_e_y> that's what I thought
Nov 05 16:03:28 <alump> your ipod doesn't have wlan?
Nov 05 16:03:40 <alump> ipaq
Nov 05 16:03:47 <b_o_n_e_y> no 
Nov 05 16:10:59 <b_o_n_e_y> maybe that would be easier 
Nov 05 16:11:23 <alump> adhoc-wlan should be
Nov 05 16:15:02 <b_o_n_e_y> need to justify a wlan card to the other half now - hmmm
Nov 05 16:15:07 <b_o_n_e_y> oh well
Nov 05 16:16:06 <Zhyla> heh
Nov 05 16:16:19 <b_o_n_e_y> ok, bye for now
Nov 05 16:16:27 <Zhyla> tell her you gotta have your bits moved around at 11 Mb/s :)
Nov 05 21:55:12 <sdp_2005> following the directions here (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AttachAFAT32FormattedDrive) I get a "cp: cannot create symlink `/share/flash/data/smb.conf': Operation not permitted" when I do the "cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /share/flash/data/" instruction.  Any ideas?
Nov 05 23:48:04 <sdp_2005> How do I know if the root filesystem is booting from an external disk?
Nov 06 00:56:13 <Boomcar> Yes!
Nov 06 00:56:34 <Boomcar> I upgraded the firmware to 5.5
Nov 06 00:56:43 <Boomcar> I uNSLUng
Nov 06 00:56:47 <Boomcar> And now?
Nov 06 00:59:48 <Boomcar> I don't understand....do I need to reboot with or without the hd attached?
Nov 06 02:01:47 <dinc> hi
Nov 06 02:01:55 <dinc> anyone alive? :)
Nov 06 02:03:02 <dinc> got a brand new nslu. Unslunged it, tried it with 4 different external HD's. None of them work
Nov 06 02:03:24 <dinc> Everything works fine until I restart after unslinging
Nov 06 02:03:36 <dinc> it won't start with the HD attached
Nov 06 02:05:20 <dinc> it works fine if I attach the hd after booting the slug but then I can't install any packages
Nov 06 02:05:49 <caplink811_log> tell us about the state of the led's when it hangs
Nov 06 02:06:47 <dinc> status = orange, eth green
Nov 06 02:07:03 <dinc> it stays like that
Nov 06 02:09:24 <dinc> I tried to plug the hd in right after (5 seconds) turning on the slug, it looks like it's working but I can't ping it. All 3 led's are green
Nov 06 02:09:28 <dinc> doesn't beep
Nov 06 02:15:00 <dinc> now, for the first time it looks ok. Status, Eth, Disk1 are all green. Eth is flashing, the others solid. Didn't heer any beep and can't ping it
Nov 06 02:18:04 <caplink811_log> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7489 may help
Nov 06 02:18:43 <caplink811_log> bbl
Nov 06 02:18:51 <dinc> ok thx cu
Nov 06 02:39:53 <dinc> caplink811_log it works! Thanks a lot!! :))
Nov 06 02:49:22 <dinc> now ipkg doesn't work. http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/unslung/cross/ is empty, no packages to download??
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