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Nov 10 03:35:50 <widrone_away> Zhyla: YMMW thu, but do give it a try. 
Nov 10 10:19:20 <jdgant01> hello room
Nov 10 10:19:46 <jdgant01> anyone have any luck getting nmap working?
Nov 10 10:25:36 <jdgant01> i get an error when trying to use nmap [nmap: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory], but cannot find that lib on my machine
Nov 10 10:31:42 <widrone> jdgant01: unslung?
Nov 10 10:32:46 <jdgant01> widrone: yes
Nov 10 10:33:25 <jdgant01> widrone: read irc logs, wonder if i need to install libtool (doing so currently)
Nov 10 10:33:43 <jdgant01> widrone: nope same error
Nov 10 10:35:36 <widrone> jdgant01: Maybe install libpcre0 too, but its only a package for openslug. Sorry I dont run unslung, so I cant really help mere.
Nov 10 10:36:56 <jdgant01> widrone: thanks anyway
Nov 10 10:37:28 <widrone> jdgant01: Seems like the package nmap depends on openssl, you have that installed aswell?
Nov 10 10:37:35 <jdgant01> widrone: yep
Nov 10 10:38:19 <jdgant01> widrone: is nmap an openslug only package (wasn't sure if the repositories for ipkg include both dists)
Nov 10 10:39:32 <widrone> nmap is in both feeds according to http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/
Nov 10 10:50:19 <jdgant01> widrone: seems like to install libpcre must compile for arch.
Nov 10 10:56:58 <widrone> jdgant01: Not sure what you meant by that. But the lib compiles for the arch (armeb)
Nov 10 10:58:28 <jdgant01> widrone: was suggesting that i'll need to compile and link for that arch (my machine specifically) unless someone has a pkg already made (nothing in ipkg list)
Nov 10 11:06:31 <widrone> jdgant01: Im not totaly sure (maybe others know) but maybe you can use the ipkg for openslug. Dowlnolad to the localhost and install. 
Nov 10 11:06:46 <widrone> jdgant01: Even better, switch to openslug. =)
Nov 10 11:11:46 <jdgant01> widrone: :)
Nov 10 11:13:04 <jdgant01> widrone: got the feeling from the website, when I installed, that openslug was a bit to 'in development' for my taste :)
Nov 10 11:19:59 <widrone> jdgant01: Live on the (l)edge! 
Nov 10 12:06:33 <hld> hello
Nov 10 12:15:43 <hld> could someone help me? i have my nslu2 since this noon and i played around a bit, but now i have to install the things i need :>
Nov 10 12:19:17 <ByronT> hld, the wiki is your friend
Nov 10 12:22:19 <hld> i know, but it's very difficult to install ntfs support if your a real noob
Nov 10 12:26:02 <ByronT> the only reason to install NTFS support is is you've already unslung to a ext3 drive
Nov 10 12:26:11 <ByronT> and have some windows disks to access
Nov 10 12:26:24 <ByronT> otherwise just use the linksys firmware
Nov 10 12:36:44 <hld> i got 2 400gb drives full with ntfs stuff
Nov 10 12:37:06 <hld> and i would like to mount them in the nslu2 AND use them with my windows pcs
Nov 10 12:39:01 <hld> anyway, i'll log on later when cap is her
Nov 10 12:39:01 <hld> e
Nov 10 12:57:59 <phatmonkey^iBook> alrighty then, how should I go about compiling stuff on my openslug slug?
Nov 10 12:58:21 <phatmonkey^iBook> ipkg install gcc; ipkg install make
Nov 10 12:58:24 <phatmonkey^iBook> doesn't work :/
Nov 10 12:59:15 <phatmonkey^iBook> slug booting, I'll get the error
Nov 10 13:30:19 <caplink811_log> phatmonkey^iBook,  use the force, aeh the MasterMakefile http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile
Nov 10 13:44:58 <caplink811_log> phatmonkey^iBook,  forget it, overread that you will compile native
Nov 10 14:31:46 <encode> theres a guide on the wiki
Nov 10 14:32:31 <encode> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment
Nov 10 14:33:14 <encode> although i found that make setup didnt create conf/topdir.conf, which was needed for the source-setup-env command
Nov 10 14:33:22 <encode> not quite sure how i fixed that in the end
Nov 10 14:34:00 <widrone> encode: You did fix it? Try the bash backlog of commands =)
Nov 10 14:34:17 <encode> err, no good
Nov 10 14:34:23 <encode> because a) i was running sh at the time
Nov 10 14:34:39 <encode> and b) i did so mnay things, i dont know which single thing created conf/topdir
Nov 10 14:34:45 <encode> .conf
Nov 10 14:37:18 <encode> i'm relatively sure it was created when i started a make build-openslug
Nov 10 14:37:35 <encode> i killed that off, since it wasnt really what i meant to do
Nov 10 14:38:16 <phatmonkey^iBook> hmm
Nov 10 14:39:14 <phatmonkey^iBook> I might just get someone else to compile stuff when I'm ready, it's not much :)
Nov 10 14:39:34 <encode> what do you want compiled?
Nov 10 14:39:42 <phatmonkey^iBook> even better, I suggest a package for gpsd
Nov 10 14:39:45 <phatmonkey^iBook> ^
Nov 10 14:40:03 <phatmonkey^iBook> I'm assuming here that I shouldn't have too much running serial gps devices on the slug
Nov 10 14:40:12 <phatmonkey^iBook> or usb-serial devices anyway
Nov 10 14:40:39 <encode> i dont know how to create packages yet
Nov 10 14:40:44 <widrone> phatmonkey^iBook: I had gpsd running under opendebianslug atleast, but its already in a .deb so i "cheated". 
Nov 10 14:40:45 <encode> havent figured that part out
Nov 10 14:42:01 <phatmonkey^iBook> widrone: okay
Nov 10 14:42:10 <phatmonkey^iBook> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment - I'll see if that works for me anyway
Nov 10 14:42:59 <phatmonkey^iBook> perl-modules: unsatisfied recommendation for perl-module-armeb-linux-cwd
Nov 10 14:42:59 <phatmonkey^iBook> perl-modules: unsatisfied recommendation for perl-module-armeb-linux-re
Nov 10 14:42:59 <phatmonkey^iBook> perl-modules: unsatisfied recommendation for perl-module-armeb-linux-dynaloader
Nov 10 14:43:03 <phatmonkey^iBook> .... and pages of that
Nov 10 14:43:04 <encode> yeah
Nov 10 14:43:08 <phatmonkey^iBook> do I need to add all them? :/
Nov 10 14:43:09 <encode> dont worry about that
Nov 10 14:43:11 <phatmonkey^iBook> okay
Nov 10 14:43:21 <encode> they're recommended, not required
Nov 10 14:43:32 <phatmonkey^iBook> okay
Nov 10 14:43:43 <phatmonkey^iBook> recommendations normally turn out to be required in the end, I was worried ;)
Nov 10 14:44:03 <encode> well i havent needed them, but i've only compiled samba so far
Nov 10 14:46:07 <phatmonkey^iBook> wow, lots of stuff
Nov 10 14:46:19 <phatmonkey^iBook> I've only got a 1GB flash card!
Nov 10 14:46:27 <phatmonkey^iBook> ahem
Nov 10 14:48:39 <phatmonkey^iBook> wow, I'm really glad I got a slug
Nov 10 14:49:04 <phatmonkey^iBook> the linux community and resources are wonderful
Nov 10 14:50:07 <widrone> Love the slug! Hug it, kiss it, feel it, covet it even bring it in your pocket. 
Nov 10 14:50:30 <phatmonkey^iBook> I will!
Nov 10 14:50:35 * widrone is not happy to see you, its a slug in his pocket. 
Nov 10 14:50:42 <hld> hmmmm, so i need a ext3 drive to get ntfs support for my other drives?
Nov 10 14:51:13 <widrone> hld: No native ntfs support that I know of in any of the stock kernels. 
Nov 10 14:51:41 <hld> hmmm
Nov 10 14:51:58 <phatmonkey^iBook> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/cross/2.7-beta/libstdc++-dev_3.4.4-r5_armeb.ipk
Nov 10 14:51:58 <phatmonkey^iBook> Killed
Nov 10 14:52:01 <phatmonkey^iBook> aww, hell
Nov 10 14:52:07 <phatmonkey^iBook> let's see if ipkg will pick it up again
Nov 10 14:53:05 <caplink811_log> hld,  as ByronT mentioned before you need an unslung-5.5 NSLU with any kind of external data storage
Nov 10 14:53:30 <phatmonkey^iBook> didn't :(
Nov 10 14:53:36 <ByronT> yeah, funny that... I mean, what would I know anyways.....
Nov 10 14:53:41 <phatmonkey^iBook> not as smart as apt anyway
Nov 10 14:53:46 <encode> my openslug supports ntfs reads, i dont know about writes tho
Nov 10 14:53:59 <widrone> hld: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/NTFS - see any info there that helps? 
Nov 10 14:54:03 <caplink811_log> ByronT,  ;)
Nov 10 14:54:22 <widrone> hld: I seem to be a bit off atleast then, and that is good. 
Nov 10 14:54:31 <ByronT> the ntfs module for ntfs that is for unslung is the Paragon commercial NTFS read/write driver
Nov 10 14:54:47 <ByronT> redundantly, it seems
Nov 10 14:55:02 <ByronT> ;)
Nov 10 14:55:13 <widrone> phatmonkey^iBook: If you even say apt, go install debian on your slug! =) 
Nov 10 14:55:56 <encode> lol widrone 
Nov 10 14:56:02 <caplink811_log> hld,  there is one thread at this topic at the ml (imho) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/messages
Nov 10 14:56:11 <phatmonkey^iBook> I tried :*
Nov 10 14:56:13 <phatmonkey^iBook> * :(
Nov 10 14:56:16 <widrone> encode: Im lobbying again, damn me! 
Nov 10 14:56:22 <phatmonkey^iBook> took 2 hours to set up my flash drive, and it didn't boot
Nov 10 14:56:24 <encode> hehee
Nov 10 14:56:29 <phatmonkey^iBook> not trying that again I'm afraid :/
Nov 10 14:56:58 <wellu1> are there any webpages that would help me get puppy working on FEdora Core 3 kernel 2.6.9-1.667 ?
Nov 10 14:57:08 <hld> hmm
Nov 10 14:57:35 <caplink811_log> hld,  and a hint in http://www.nslu2-info.de/showthread.php?p=12529#post12529
Nov 10 14:58:02 <widrone> phatmonkey^iBook: Hm, if there is errors in the howto I need to stumble upon them. Im doing another slug with debian tomorrow. =/ 
Nov 10 14:58:03 <caplink811_log> hld,  2nd link is redundant, more or less
Nov 10 15:03:00 <phatmonkey^iBook> I probably did something wrong, but openslug is good enough for me :)
Nov 10 15:03:10 <phatmonkey^iBook> debian takes up a quarter of my flash card anyway!
Nov 10 15:03:55 <phatmonkey^iBook> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openslug/cross/2.7-beta/libstdc++-dev_3.4.4-r5_armeb.ipk
Nov 10 15:03:55 <phatmonkey^iBook> wget: write error: No space left on device
Nov 10 15:03:58 <phatmonkey^iBook> )-)
Nov 10 15:04:00 <phatmonkey^iBook> * 0_0
Nov 10 15:04:08 <phatmonkey^iBook> uhoh
Nov 10 15:13:56 <encode> :O
Nov 10 15:14:07 <encode> what does `mount` say?
Nov 10 15:14:18 <encode> are you sure you're running from an external drive?
Nov 10 15:15:07 <phatmonkey^iBook> yep
Nov 10 15:15:16 <phatmonkey^iBook> a 1GB flash drive which is 9% full
Nov 10 15:15:42 <phatmonkey^iBook> refusing to download it
Nov 10 15:15:42 <phatmonkey^iBook> odd
Nov 10 15:15:46 <encode> weird
Nov 10 15:15:57 <encode> i seem to remember that ipkg downloads to /tmp
Nov 10 15:15:57 <phatmonkey^iBook> /dev/sda1               920.4M     79.3M    794.4M   9% /
Nov 10 15:16:22 <phatmonkey^iBook> I'll try tomorrow
Nov 10 15:16:25 <phatmonkey^iBook> I need sleep now
Nov 10 15:16:28 <phatmonkey^iBook> gbye
Nov 10 15:16:32 <encode> hehe cya
Nov 10 15:25:43 <caplink811_log> ~nick
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Nov 10 15:28:51 <John_S> Hi all, does anybody know how to run tracert or tracert win UnSlung 5.5?
Nov 10 15:29:13 <John_S> with, I mean
Nov 10 15:29:58 <John_S> I installed net-tools package, but tracert is not of the tools :(
Nov 10 15:30:06 <caplink811_log> you want use mtr
Nov 10 15:30:28 <caplink811_log> which is avaiable as a ipk
Nov 10 15:31:14 <John_S> thanks caplink8ll_log, I'll check it
Nov 10 15:31:24 <caplink811_log> np
Nov 10 15:32:10 <John_S> it works great
Nov 10 15:32:25 <caplink811_log> ~emulate rwhitby
Nov 10 15:32:45 <capbot> well, my work here is done
Nov 10 15:33:58 <John_S> gents, is there an estimation for UnSlung 6.0, like early next year, unkown at the moment?
Nov 10 15:34:09 <widrone> John_S: tracert? traceroute you mean maybe?
Nov 10 15:34:33 <widrone> John_S: But mtr is good too, try that. 
Nov 10 15:34:45 <John_S> widrone: I've tried trace, tracert, traceroute with no avail, but mtr it's perfect
Nov 10 15:36:28 <caplink811_log> traceroute as searchword on ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org gives only this http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=traceroute&searchtype=file&section= , strange
Nov 10 15:37:04 <John_S> widrone: I've even tried to link traceroute into busybox 1.0 (base-install), but it would only be availbale on busy-box 1.1
Nov 10 15:38:19 <John_S> not on the current package :|
Nov 10 15:53:48 <John_S> Regarding UnSlung 6.0, I guess I didn't get an answer because that info is kind of: a) unknown, b) classified :)
Nov 10 15:56:25 <caplink811_log> a= imho
Nov 10 15:56:32 <caplink811_log> a.)
Nov 10 15:59:53 <John_S> caplink8ll_log: thanks... that would be my guess, but I thought that an estimation would be known by some, like: not likely till next year or something along those lines :)
Nov 10 16:00:48 <caplink811_log> anything in uNSLUng-5.5 that doesn't fit your wishes?
Nov 10 16:01:26 <John_S> native support for ntfs plus multiple drives through an USB hub
Nov 10 16:01:47 <John_S> with FAT and or NTFS I mean
Nov 10 16:01:59 <caplink811_log> hm, maybe, that you want to have a look at opendebianslug aka debonaras
Nov 10 16:02:27 <caplink811_log> with the know restrictions at topic ntfs
Nov 10 16:03:59 <John_S> I may do that, I have been looking for some issues being solved like ethernet support with LE drivers or something
Nov 10 16:04:20 <John_S> but not sure that it's a really issue
Nov 10 16:04:47 <encode> from what i've read on the wiki openslug will never get support for multiple drives through an USB hub
Nov 10 16:05:05 <encode> since it breaks the goal of compatibility with the officla linksys firmware
Nov 10 16:05:18 <encode> unslung*
Nov 10 16:05:58 <caplink811_log> but opendebianslug have anything to do with linksys, except the hardware
Nov 10 16:06:06 <encode> yeah
Nov 10 16:06:21 <encode> i meant to say unslung will never get support, rather than openslug
Nov 10 16:06:46 <John_S> ops... I was affraid of that :S
Nov 10 16:07:21 <John_S> well, I won't mind in going with OpenSlug then
Nov 10 16:07:25 <caplink811_log> what depend on the targetuser
Nov 10 16:08:32 <caplink811_log> John_S,  try debian on openslug, then you have the choice to install 12k+ packages which sould satisfy your needs
Nov 10 16:08:50 <caplink811_log> s/sould/should
Nov 10 16:10:38 <encode> isnt debian still kinda difficult to install?
Nov 10 16:11:30 <John_S> caplink8ll_log: ok, I apreciate you advice. I'll probably dive into that option later, for right now I'm still exploring the limits of UnSlung
Nov 10 16:11:54 <caplink811_log> not realy, there's is a howto at the wiki, which works very well, and when the deb environment is running, that primary apt-get update ; apt-get install package
Nov 10 16:17:43 <John_S> ok... from wiki page, it seems that for LE Debian
Nov 10 16:17:57 <John_S> Slug it's needed an USB Ethernet addapter
Nov 10 16:18:34 <John_S> Maybe in a few weeks this last "issues" can be also soved
Nov 10 16:18:43 <John_S> solved, I mean
Nov 10 16:21:42 <caplink811_log> maybe, but debian on openslug is be
Nov 10 16:21:58 <caplink811_log> which use the internal ethernet device
Nov 10 16:25:54 <John_S> yeap, that's why debonaras was started I guess, to compile debian on BE arm. If LE issues with internal ethernet can be overcome, won't all Debian packages become readily available?
Nov 10 16:28:18 <John_S> (just guessing from the wiki pages... I'm not a developer)
Nov 10 16:28:20 <caplink811_log> dunno, haven't had a look at the avaiable debian-le-arm packages, but right now. there are ~12k packages for be
Nov 10 16:28:47 <caplink811_log> based on sarge, not sid, not etch
Nov 10 16:28:48 <John_S> ok... that seems more than enought to me :)
Nov 10 16:29:22 <caplink811_log> i think so, too
Nov 10 16:29:53 <John_S> caplink8ll_log: thanks again for clarification. Must leave now.
Nov 10 16:30:04 <John_S> Over and out
Nov 10 16:30:22 <caplink811_log> i'm too, so we're in the same time zone, its time for heading to bed, now
Nov 10 16:30:33 <caplink811_log> gnite all
Nov 10 16:30:34 <encode> lol
Nov 10 16:31:38 <caplink811_log> seems that is noon at your tz encode , but i'm past midnight, have to read my new novell until the end
Nov 10 16:32:56 <encode> its 10:30 here
Nov 10 16:33:01 <encode> gmt +10
Nov 10 16:33:02 <caplink811_log> gna
Nov 10 16:33:40 <caplink811_log> 11-11 you win
Nov 10 17:19:41 <Snow-Joy> hmm. this is probably the most stupid question of all, but i cant discover my brand new linksys...
Nov 10 17:19:58 <Snow-Joy> *checking faq just to be sure it's not there*
Nov 10 17:21:46 <Snow-Joy> is the problem that my network is 192.168.2.* ? 
Nov 10 18:42:18 <Snow-Joy> i've sucsessfully installed Unslug 5.5, and used ipkg update, and upkg install wakelan, and then ipkg list_installed, and i do get wakelan listed
Nov 10 18:42:23 <Snow-Joy> but how do i use my brand new package :P 
Nov 10 18:44:08 <Snow-Joy> okey, i've located the package to /opt/bin/wakelan, now how do i run it :P
Nov 11 01:22:31 <Snow-Joy> i've installed dropbear SSH server, and it worked just fine last night... but after i restarted it i dont get a login prompt. if i telnet into the box over the internet i only get the message "SSH-2.0-dropbear_0.46" but no logon prompt
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