**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 14 02:59:57 2005
Nov 14 03:07:10 <encode> anyone here use usb sound card with their slug?
Nov 14 06:29:11 <hld> hrmpf, still no progress with my ntfs problem
Nov 14 06:30:42 <jell1> ntfs gives headaches all over. I use vfat... don't have too large files.
Nov 14 06:34:22 <hld> i need large file support
Nov 14 06:35:42 <hld> problem is: i get the partition mounted, can write and read from it
Nov 14 06:35:57 <hld> but the files aren't there when i connect the drive to my win box
Nov 14 06:37:28 <jelle> so samba doesn't forward the files...
Nov 14 06:37:46 <jelle> strange though. since you'd expect that any mounted fs would work fine.
Nov 14 06:38:13 <hld> the data must be there... when i plug the drive into the nslu2 again, the files are there again
Nov 14 06:38:25 <hld> i can even format the parititon under win, the files are still there
Nov 14 06:45:45 <jelle> are you sure it is the same partition?
Nov 14 06:45:56 * jelle is just stating the obvious
Nov 14 06:46:57 <hld> should be, since i mount the drive with the ufsd driver, shouldn't it?
Nov 14 06:48:23 <hld> hmmmm
Nov 14 06:48:56 <hld> i started the box and i can go to /mnt/ntfs and see my data, but how the hell is that going on when lsmod doesn't list ufsd.o ?!
Nov 14 07:02:10 <hld> ha, i think i got the biyatch ;)
Nov 14 07:04:01 <hld> yeah, got it
Nov 14 07:04:18 <hld> samba puts the files into /share/hdd/data/mnt/ntfs
Nov 14 07:04:53 <hld> my filesystem is mounted into /mnt/ntfs, how can i fix that with the cleanest method? :>
Nov 14 07:33:18 <jelle> just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf (or wherever that is)
Nov 14 07:33:45 <hld> yeah, i got it :)
Nov 14 07:33:49 <jelle> good
Nov 14 07:34:03 <hld> and i found a way to hide the files from the ntfs driver ($boot,$mft,...) as well :)
Nov 14 07:34:12 <hld> thank you
Nov 14 07:34:15 <jelle> that would be boot$, mft$
Nov 14 07:34:27 <hld> nope, spelled it right
Nov 14 07:34:38 <jelle> oh, ok. must be something different then
Nov 14 07:34:51 <hld> $AttrDef        $BadClus        $Bitmap         $Boot           $Extend         $LogFile        $MFT            $MFTMirr        $Secure         $UpCase         $Volume
Nov 14 07:34:57 <hld> these are the files from the driver...
Nov 14 07:35:05 <jelle> rght
Nov 14 07:35:09 <hld> and that thing to hide them with a dot didn't work
Nov 14 07:48:43 <jelle> hiding gives too much expectations on security anyway. :)
Nov 14 07:48:54 <hld> hehe
Nov 14 07:49:08 <hld> how can i copy the smb.conf to /unslung/ without creating a link?
Nov 14 07:49:22 <hld> want to overwrite it on startup with the one from /unslung/
Nov 14 07:49:43 <jelle> I'm using openslug, don't know much about that unslung linking...
Nov 14 07:50:34 <jelle> check http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/Samba there is some info.
Nov 14 07:51:35 <hld> cat foo > bar ?!
Nov 14 07:52:17 <jelle> that will work, but not have the desired effects.
Nov 14 07:52:24 <jelle> :D
Nov 14 07:52:52 <hld> what will it do? ;)
Nov 14 07:52:55 <hld> <- n00b
Nov 14 07:53:18 <jelle> I dunno, see the trial and error section ;)
Nov 14 07:53:38 <jelle> cat foo > bar <- n00b
Nov 14 07:53:49 <jelle> could not find "- n00b"
Nov 14 07:54:36 <hld> hehe, meant that i'm new to linux ;)
Nov 14 08:26:11 <hld> still not solved that little problem... shouldn't be such a problem :/
Nov 14 08:40:22 <hld> hrmpf
Nov 14 08:47:36 <hld> hmm, got that problem again: press on powerbutton when nslu2 is powered on - nothing happens, no beep, no shutdown
Nov 14 08:57:41 <Zhyla> hld:  I have seen a problem with it beeping but nothing happens
Nov 14 08:59:37 <hld> hmm
Nov 14 09:04:03 <jelle> yellow status  light? or green?
Nov 14 09:08:01 <hld> green, box works flawlessy
Nov 14 09:08:42 <jelle> oh. I had that problem with yellow. sorry
Nov 14 09:13:45 <hld> and that shit with overwriting the smb.conf doesn't work as well...
Nov 14 09:13:47 <hld> hrmpf
Nov 14 09:35:23 <hld> ah, think i found the error, when i create /unslung/rc.modules, i have to insert something with return 1, right?
Nov 14 09:38:35 <hld> works
Nov 14 09:38:53 <hld> now, just i have just to solve how to fix that smb.conf prob
Nov 14 09:39:19 <jell1> what prob?
Nov 14 09:39:48 <hld> the nslu recreates /etc/samba/smb.conf after startup with the settings from the webinterface
Nov 14 09:40:14 <hld> but i need a own smb.conf since i need the veto files tag for hiding the ntfs driver things
Nov 14 09:42:06 <hld> #!/bin/sh
Nov 14 09:42:06 <hld> ln -sf /unslung/smb.conf /share/hdd/conf/share/smb.conf
Nov 14 09:42:06 <hld> return 1
Nov 14 09:42:15 <hld> i created that script, but it won't work
Nov 14 09:42:16 <hld> :/
Nov 14 09:44:54 <jelle> did you chmod +x the script?
Nov 14 09:45:28 <hld> did ugoa+x
Nov 14 09:47:20 <jelle> does it run when you run it from cmd line?
Nov 14 09:47:33 <hld> gimme a sec, maybe i found my error
Nov 14 09:47:40 <jelle> sure
Nov 14 09:47:48 <hld> i start to like linux even if i fail all the time :>
Nov 14 09:49:42 <hld> failed
Nov 14 09:58:36 <jelle> :)
Nov 14 09:58:52 <jelle> I'm like that too... can't help to keep struggling till it works.
Nov 14 09:59:05 <hld> hehe
Nov 14 10:01:32 <caplink811_log> you should go to a state which is equal to the startup, when your script runs smbd and nmbd aren't started yet. so it could make a difference for your script. just kill smbd and nmbd and try you script again.
Nov 14 10:01:48 <caplink811_log> s/you/your
Nov 14 10:02:42 <hld> how can i get the pid?
Nov 14 10:03:13 <caplink811_log> ps -ef | grep smbd
Nov 14 10:03:48 <caplink811> morning
Nov 14 10:08:09 <hld> nopes
Nov 14 10:08:24 <hld> don't work
Nov 14 10:11:30 <hld> cap, any idea where to put that script?
Nov 14 10:12:05 <caplink811> as i mentioned yesterday /unslung/rc.samba
Nov 14 10:12:28 <nephite> hey, when I installed the X11 package, I was expecting the GUI where I would see a login window on my computer and would log into a desktop on the NSLU.  When I got it running, it would just run specific "test" programs.  Am I missing something?
Nov 14 10:12:47 <hld> it's there
Nov 14 10:12:56 <hld> [17:42] <hld> #!/bin/sh
Nov 14 10:12:56 <hld> [17:42] <hld> ln -sf /unslung/smb.conf /share/hdd/conf/share/smb.conf
Nov 14 10:12:56 <hld> [17:42] <hld> return 1
Nov 14 10:13:14 <hld> and that's the script
Nov 14 10:13:37 <caplink811> samba use /etc/samba/smb.conf as config file which is link to /share/hdd/conf/share/samba/smb.conf, maybe it is a good idea, 1st delete /etc/samba/smbconf and then link your file to that place
Nov 14 10:15:05 <nephite> does the X11 packages allow for a remote desktop login?  or will I need to upgrade to the full blown openslug version?
Nov 14 10:20:31 <hld> okay, which rights should the smb.conf in /unslung/ (my own config) have ?
Nov 14 10:21:08 <caplink811> the same as the original target 
Nov 14 10:25:39 <hld> how can i check that?
Nov 14 10:26:36 <caplink811> what, that your script works?
Nov 14 10:26:45 <hld> now, which rights it got
Nov 14 10:26:57 <hld> now/no i mean
Nov 14 10:34:18 <caplink811> ls -la , but 666 is for sure
Nov 14 10:35:00 <hld> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         1215 Nov 14 18:20 /unslung/smb.conf
Nov 14 10:35:28 <caplink811> everybody can read, that should be enough
Nov 14 10:48:09 <hld> okay, the /etc/samba/smb.conf gets overwritten
Nov 14 10:48:20 <hld> but the /unslug/smb.conf always restores :/
Nov 14 10:48:34 <hld> i mean it gets the old values without my changes
Nov 14 10:49:34 <hld> theres a * before the filename in mc?!
Nov 14 10:53:18 <caplink811_log> * -> executable
Nov 14 10:54:41 <caplink811_log> hm, if you do a cp bla blu in your script some overwrites bla?
Nov 14 10:54:53 <caplink811_log> s/some/someone
Nov 14 11:05:11 <hld> why the hell, can't delete /unslug/smb.conf... re-appears after every reboot
Nov 14 11:16:41 <hld> hrmpf
Nov 14 11:16:49 <hld> is still there :/
Nov 14 11:26:04 <hld> how can i get rid of that file?
Nov 14 11:27:44 <hld> re
Nov 14 11:43:52 <phatmonkey^iBook> does anyone have a compiled gpsd for openslug?
Nov 14 11:44:01 <phatmonkey^iBook> or is there some package I'm not aware of...
Nov 14 11:46:51 <caplink811> dunno, but there is a precompiled avaiable for debonaras slug
Nov 14 11:49:11 <phatmonkey^iBook> I'll have a go
Nov 14 12:01:33 <phatmonkey^iBook> root@slug:~/gpsd/usr/bin# ./gpsd -v 
Nov 14 12:01:33 <phatmonkey^iBook> gpsd 2.13
Nov 14 12:01:38 <phatmonkey^iBook> wee hee, thanks :)
Nov 14 12:02:31 <caplink811> no problem
Nov 14 12:03:34 <caplink811> phatmonkey^iBook,  why you don't step over to debomaras, that make much things easier
Nov 14 12:04:00 <phatmonkey^iBook> I've had bad experiences with debian on the slug :/
Nov 14 12:04:02 <phatmonkey^iBook> I want to
Nov 14 12:04:08 <phatmonkey^iBook> spent hours setting it up
Nov 14 12:04:13 <phatmonkey^iBook> then it wouldn't boot
Nov 14 12:05:16 <caplink811> hm, myself setup openslug2.7, turnup, and follow the readme on the wiki, straight forward, and it works like a charme
Nov 14 12:07:02 <phatmonkey^iBook> odd
Nov 14 12:07:13 <phatmonkey^iBook> might try it again sometime
Nov 14 12:07:30 <phatmonkey^iBook> but now I've got everything working on openslug, I don't really see the point
Nov 14 12:07:38 <phatmonkey^iBook> gawd, I would love to move over to debian though
Nov 14 12:08:03 <phatmonkey^iBook> it uses up a quarter of my 1GB flash card :/
Nov 14 12:08:25 <caplink811> ok, that is an argument
Nov 14 12:09:46 <widrone> The openslug is lean and mean on the slug, but the debian adds more flexibility I must say. I like them both.
Nov 14 12:11:25 <caplink811> as i said, i make the life much easier, i can go in the apt shop, and buy nearly everything i need/want ;)
Nov 14 12:12:07 <phatmonkey^iBook> indeed...
Nov 14 12:12:11 <phatmonkey^iBook> I use debian on everything else
Nov 14 12:12:22 <phatmonkey^iBook> which is more stable? I desperately need stability
Nov 14 12:12:34 <phatmonkey^iBook> http://glider.phatmonkey.org.uk/
Nov 14 12:16:08 <caplink811> b
Nov 14 12:18:08 <caplink811> well, imho, if you compile everything self, then you get an ideal software for your environment, but on the other hand, imho sarge is stable, aka rock solid
Nov 14 12:24:05 <phatmonkey^iBook> yes
Nov 14 12:40:59 <bazz-> hi
Nov 14 12:41:26 <bazz-> i'm using unslung firmware, installed development packages, but get errors all the time
Nov 14 12:41:42 <bazz-> some programs do compile, but others don't seem to find libraries etc.
Nov 14 12:42:00 <bazz-> like irssi for instance
Nov 14 12:42:39 <caplink811_log> do you use the native compile environment?
Nov 14 12:42:43 <bazz-> yes
Nov 14 12:42:57 <bazz-> i removed that resistor so it runs a bit faster
Nov 14 12:43:55 <bazz-> for example i'd like bitlbee to connect to my googletalk account through jabber, but it doesn't work with the standard package available through ipkg
Nov 14 12:44:01 <bazz-> so i tried compiling it myself
Nov 14 12:44:14 <bazz-> but still doesn't work as it should
Nov 14 12:44:26 <bazz-> i stopped trying that
Nov 14 12:44:31 <bazz-> i started trying irssi
Nov 14 12:44:38 <bazz-> but no luck either
Nov 14 12:45:03 <bazz-> there is no package available for irssi, is there?
Nov 14 12:45:50 <bazz-> if i try to compile things myself, it says missing libraries etc.
Nov 14 12:46:04 <bazz-> i linked /opt/share to /usr/share and some similar things
Nov 14 12:46:29 <bazz-> some things worked better, but after a while, it still ceases to compile
Nov 14 12:47:45 <bazz-> any tips?
Nov 14 12:49:55 <caplink811_log> do you have checked out the source mk files from the repository at sourceforge?
Nov 14 12:50:26 <bazz-> i didn't know there was one
Nov 14 12:53:05 <bazz-> could you tell me what i should do in order to be able to compile them natively?
Nov 14 12:54:30 <caplink811_log> that work for native compile too: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung
Nov 14 12:56:48 <phatmonkey^iBook> anyone have any experience with gpsd? :/
Nov 14 12:57:58 <bazz-> i see there is a directory cvs/unslung/sources/irssi
Nov 14 12:58:07 <caplink811_log> man gpsd <eg>
Nov 14 12:58:09 <bazz-> it only contains a control file
Nov 14 12:58:50 <caplink811_log> and there is a directory unslung/make with a file irssi.mk, which is the depended makefile
Nov 14 12:59:04 <bazz-> ah ok
Nov 14 12:59:09 <phatmonkey^iBook> yes, I've tried man gpsd :P
Nov 14 12:59:36 <caplink811_log> but you need to check out the whole repository
Nov 14 13:00:29 <caplink811_log> and do something like make wakelan, or something else, then everything is buld, what you need, compiler, linker, and so on
Nov 14 13:01:13 <bazz-> caplink811_log: thanks man, if i only knew this before, i just typed `make irssi` and it's downloading sources etc.
Nov 14 13:01:18 <bazz-> i think it'll work
Nov 14 13:02:00 <bazz-> ouch
Nov 14 13:02:01 <bazz-> cvs checkout: Updating irssi/src/perl/xs
Nov 14 13:02:01 <bazz-> mv /root/cvs/unslung/downloads/irssi /root/cvs/unslung/downloads/irssi-20050206
Nov 14 13:02:04 <bazz-> mv: cannot stat `/root/cvs/unslung/downloads/irssi': No such file or directory
Nov 14 13:02:07 <bazz-> make: *** [/root/cvs/unslung/downloads/irssi-20050206.tar.gz] Error 1
Nov 14 13:06:39 <bazz-> it seems to be working, thanks :)
Nov 14 13:06:44 <bazz-> i hope i'll get the binary
Nov 14 13:06:51 <phatmonkey^iBook> does usb-serial work correctly on openslug? that appears to be my problem :/
Nov 14 13:08:52 <mika_> phatmonkey^iBook, good question i am currios to 
Nov 14 13:09:15 <mika_> i read alot of try`s but never read that it works
Nov 14 13:09:21 <phatmonkey^iBook> /dev/ttyUSB0 and 1 seem completely dead
Nov 14 13:10:28 <mika_> so it dont work.. did u try also the extra kernel modules ?
Nov 14 13:10:53 <phatmonkey^iBook> which ones? I haven't read into it at all
Nov 14 13:10:57 <encode> anyone here use usb sound card with their slug?
Nov 14 13:10:59 <caplink811_log> bazz-,  could be, that you have to create the directories first, make directories
Nov 14 13:10:59 <caplink811_log>   make ipkg-utils. as described in the howto
Nov 14 13:11:42 <mika_> ipkg list |grep serial
Nov 14 13:11:52 <encode> i have a sound blaster mp3+, which apparently some guy got working (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SlugAsAudioPlayer), but i can't for the life of me figure out how
Nov 14 13:12:18 <mika_> and there u see a kernel module phatmonkey^iBook 
Nov 14 13:13:37 <bazz-> caplink811_log:  it's compiling now
Nov 14 13:13:43 <caplink811_log> k
Nov 14 13:13:46 <bazz-> i tried make wakelan like you said earlier
Nov 14 13:14:02 <bazz-> and it complained about a directory builds which didn't exist, so i made it
Nov 14 13:14:08 <bazz-> and after that it worked
Nov 14 13:14:12 <bazz-> now it's compiling
Nov 14 13:14:23 <caplink811_log> i know, that irssi didn't compile, so there is some work to do on the irssi.mk
Nov 14 13:14:39 <bazz-> really strange things
Nov 14 13:15:04 <bazz-> i downloaded psybnc, and tried to compile that, it worked
Nov 14 13:15:09 <bazz-> but without ssl
Nov 14 13:15:20 <bazz-> it couldn't detect ssl libs (which are there)
Nov 14 13:15:24 <phatmonkey^iBook> hmm
Nov 14 13:15:31 <bazz-> i even recompiled ncurses 
Nov 14 13:15:40 <caplink811_log> it's basically, that you understand how the compiel environment works
Nov 14 13:16:00 <caplink811_log> s/basically/fundamental
Nov 14 13:16:02 <bazz-> i'll try reading further before asking more stupid questions :)
Nov 14 13:17:01 <caplink811_log> have a closer look to everything whats describe "staging" or "staging dir" nearer
Nov 14 13:17:04 <mika_> caplink811_log, morning :D .... are u make a pack from irssi ??
Nov 14 13:17:29 <caplink811_log> no, doesn't compile for me, and i have no realy need for it
Nov 14 13:17:50 <caplink811_log> mika_,  morning, how are you
Nov 14 13:18:02 <mika_> ok to bad :) i still like it more than BitchX and Miau
Nov 14 13:18:10 <mika_> both are not stable
Nov 14 13:18:56 <mika_> i am fine a day school did i do today
Nov 14 13:19:24 <caplink811_log> hm, miau is runnign rock solid here, i think, if my provider didn't cycle the line every 24 hours its be online for ever
Nov 14 13:19:55 <bazz-> miau? hmm let me try that 
Nov 14 13:20:06 <mika_> strange.. here he wil lost the conection
Nov 14 13:20:15 <bazz-> it's a bouncer?
Nov 14 13:20:19 <mika_> but bitchx have the same problem
Nov 14 13:20:20 <caplink811_log> yes, it is
Nov 14 13:20:34 <bazz-> i prefer a client
Nov 14 13:20:55 <bazz-> i can't reach a lot of ports from school
Nov 14 13:20:55 <mika_> but maybe i must change the settings like http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ConfigureMiauForIRCLogging
Nov 14 13:21:15 <bazz-> so i try to keep it on the shell 
Nov 14 13:21:26 <mika_> u can make miau let listen to a diffrent port
Nov 14 13:21:33 <caplink811_log> hm, that problem i had with some irc clients, only xchat stay online longer as 5 minutes
Nov 14 13:21:34 <phatmonkey^iBook> nope, usb-serial still dead
Nov 14 13:21:44 <bazz-> mika_: i know about that
Nov 14 13:22:13 <bazz-> but it's not exactly what i want, port open for this, open for that
Nov 14 13:22:19 <bazz-> irc is still unencrypted..
Nov 14 13:22:31 <bazz-> ssh is
Nov 14 13:22:33 <mika_> bazz-, use bitchx then with ssh
Nov 14 13:22:47 <bazz-> i'm all used to irssi :p
Nov 14 13:22:54 <bazz-> i'm too lazy to learn bitchx
Nov 14 13:23:02 * caplink811 forget that myself is online, splitting personality
Nov 14 13:23:21 <mika_> caplink811_log, it stay online as long as x-chat is conected but when there is no client conect it lost the conection after a few hours
Nov 14 13:23:45 <caplink811> hm, that works for me, at least for 23:59 hours
Nov 14 13:24:00 <mika_> yes u know your problem 
Nov 14 13:24:02 <mika_> capbot, 
Nov 14 13:24:11 <bazz-> caplink, i can send psybnc if you like
Nov 14 13:24:12 <mika_> sorry caplink811 
Nov 14 13:24:26 <bazz-> i compiled it, it should work (without ssl though)
Nov 14 13:24:57 <caplink811> well, i have compiled for myself, but the setup it real cryptic for me, so i use miau, and that satisfied me
Nov 14 13:25:23 <caplink811> but thanks
Nov 14 13:25:26 <bazz-> setup? there's not really a setup
Nov 14 13:25:30 <mika_> did u change much on the config from miau caplink811 
Nov 14 13:25:45 <bazz-> just make menuconfig and make
Nov 14 13:26:00 <encode> does no-one here use usb sound on their slug?
Nov 14 13:26:14 <bazz-> run the program, connect to it with a irc client
Nov 14 13:26:26 <caplink811> well, i grep the ipk, and change something at stoned server or so, add my channels, and something about identity, no more else
Nov 14 13:26:33 <bazz-> the first login you use, is the main account /quote pass password; and you're in
Nov 14 13:26:36 <mika_> phatmonkey^iBook, did u reboot after u install the kernel modules ?
Nov 14 13:26:46 <caplink811> encode,  cheef-daniel afair
Nov 14 13:26:55 <encode> caplink811: ta
Nov 14 13:26:59 <mika_> same like me caplink811 ..so that is not the problem then
Nov 14 13:27:00 <caplink811> no problem
Nov 14 13:27:20 <bazz-> http://www.psybnc.info/faq.html#q14
Nov 14 13:29:10 <bazz-> i think this compile will be done by morning :)
Nov 14 13:29:20 <bazz-> it just downloaded ncurses5.5 and now zlib
Nov 14 13:30:35 <phatmonkey^iBook> mika_: yes
Nov 14 13:31:07 <mika_> to bad  :S phatmonkey^iBook so i dont have to try it
Nov 14 13:31:24 <mika_> i was hope it was be nice if it was work for my dreambox
Nov 14 13:31:35 <bazz-> mika you have a dreambox too? :)
Nov 14 13:31:47 <mika_> yes
Nov 14 13:31:55 <mika_> the 7000 and a 500
Nov 14 13:31:58 <bazz-> which one? i've got a 7000
Nov 14 13:32:04 <bazz-> my brother's got the 500
Nov 14 13:32:14 <mika_> Both are nice
Nov 14 13:32:45 <mika_> 7020 is to expensive for me this time and i think i have even so much funn with the 7000
Nov 14 13:33:04 <bazz-> yes, but the 500 has too few memory
Nov 14 13:33:13 <bazz-> imo
Nov 14 13:33:37 <bazz-> with the 7000 one can add a usb stick to use it as /Var filesystem
Nov 14 13:33:38 <mika_> yes but i use all the plugins what i need from hd (nlsu)
Nov 14 13:33:51 <bazz-> are you using a specific image?
Nov 14 13:34:06 <mika_> yes PLi and CamX-beta
Nov 14 13:34:13 <mika_> and you ?
Nov 14 13:34:16 <bazz-> the new citrine?
Nov 14 13:34:23 <bazz-> also using pli, citrine
Nov 14 13:34:34 <bazz-> with mgcamd
Nov 14 13:34:58 <mika_> amber on the 500 and citrine on de 7000
Nov 14 13:35:36 <bazz-> to which directory did you mount the nslu?
Nov 14 13:35:53 <mika_> to /hdd so i can record with both
Nov 14 13:35:58 <bazz-> cool
Nov 14 13:36:30 <bazz-> how did you manage to install the plugins on the hdd?
Nov 14 13:36:43 <caplink811> mika_,  you can get my miau.conf from www.jrbnet.de/texte/miau.conf that is the one, which works well for me
Nov 14 13:37:09 <mika_> i copy them to /hdd and link them to the place on the dreambox
Nov 14 13:37:27 <bazz-> ic
Nov 14 13:37:36 <mika_> Thx caplink811 let me try to find the diffrents
Nov 14 13:37:38 <bazz-> you don't use the remote to install the plugins?
Nov 14 13:38:06 <mika_> nope because then he place them in the /var
Nov 14 13:38:44 <bazz-> you can make a symbolic link from /hdd to /var/tuxbox/plugins or wherever it stores the plugins
Nov 14 13:38:52 <bazz-> you can then use the remote control ;)
Nov 14 13:40:32 <mika_> diff give me a lot of diffrent s caplink811 
Nov 14 13:41:08 <mika_> yes maybe that is a idea bazz-
Nov 14 13:41:36 * caplink811 thinking about deletion of passwords ;)
Nov 14 13:44:11 <mika_> and much timeouts are diffrent see :
Nov 14 13:44:14 <mika_> < #stonedtimeout = "150"
Nov 14 13:44:14 <mika_> ---
Nov 14 13:44:14 <mika_> > stonedtimeout = "30"
Nov 14 13:44:14 <mika_> 161c162
Nov 14 13:44:14 <mika_> < #connecttimeout = "60"
Nov 14 13:44:15 <mika_> ---
Nov 14 13:44:19 <mika_> > connecttimeout = "60"
Nov 14 13:45:12 <mika_> caplink811, are u also a ubuntu user ?
Nov 14 13:45:34 <caplink811> no, deb sarge/sid/etch or something else
Nov 14 13:45:51 <mika_> ok i see u read there to :D
Nov 14 13:46:07 <caplink811> yeah, just for information
Nov 14 13:46:13 <mika_> bazz-, i think we speak before here.. now i know u are from belgium
Nov 14 13:49:29 <mika_> your timeouts are not the same as me so maybe it is that :)
Nov 14 13:49:33 <bazz-> mika_: sure? i don't remember you :)
Nov 14 13:49:34 <mika_> caplink811, 
Nov 14 13:49:44 <bazz-> perhaps from ircnet ;)
Nov 14 13:49:51 <mika_> ok maybe i am wrong 
Nov 14 13:49:57 <mika_> i was think here
Nov 14 13:50:10 <caplink811> ?
Nov 14 13:50:18 <mika_> i think we spoke about recarding to the nlsu
Nov 14 13:50:21 <mika_> about samba
Nov 14 13:50:36 <bazz-> funny
Nov 14 13:50:43 <mika_> caplink811, sorry i mean ur time outs are not the same
Nov 14 13:50:50 <bazz-> i don't remember asking/talking about samba :)
Nov 14 13:50:51 <caplink811> k
Nov 14 13:51:08 <mika_> the rest was was for bazz- caplink811 
Nov 14 13:51:16 <caplink811> k, too
Nov 14 13:51:19 <caplink811> ;)
Nov 14 13:51:34 <mika_> bazz-, ok maybe i am wrong and was it a other one from belgium 
Nov 14 13:51:59 <bazz-> ;)
Nov 14 13:52:07 <bazz-> i'm using ubuntu on my laptop
Nov 14 13:52:14 <bazz-> i like it
Nov 14 13:52:46 <mika_> same like me bazz- 
Nov 14 13:55:23 <mika_> do u use the dreambox for dutch chanels bazz- ?
Nov 14 13:56:16 <bazz-> before they switched to s2 yes :)
Nov 14 13:56:38 <bazz-> now only some frenchies are available
Nov 14 13:57:20 <mika_> ok yes it is wait for belgium on the satelite :D
Nov 14 13:57:37 <bazz-> belgium will never get on satellite
Nov 14 13:57:46 <bazz-> they're too stupid :)
Nov 14 13:59:12 <mika_> :)
Nov 14 14:00:26 <caplink811> encode,  and afair effem too
Nov 14 14:00:39 <caplink811> maybe easier to catch him
Nov 14 14:01:37 <bazz-> catch who?
Nov 14 14:02:05 <caplink811> maybe easier for encode to catch effem on the channel
Nov 14 14:03:45 <bazz-> FM you mean :)
Nov 14 14:04:14 <caplink811> not ukw, eFFem should be the nick
Nov 14 14:04:23 <bazz-> :]
Nov 14 14:09:51 <encode> caplink811: thanks again
Nov 14 14:10:08 <caplink811> no problem
Nov 14 14:10:13 <caplink811> as before ;)
Nov 14 14:10:24 <encode> its weird, dmesg can see the device connected, aumix can see the different channels, but nothing else will recognise that theres even a sound device present
Nov 14 14:10:32 <mika_> caplink811, i chance some part from my config now so lets try :D
Nov 14 14:10:41 <encode> anyway, bbl
Nov 14 14:10:48 <caplink811> bye
Nov 14 14:47:38 <bazz-> still building :)
Nov 14 15:09:02 <mika_> caplink811, how do u quit xchat close all windows at ones or not ? or do u first diconnect from the server before close xchat ?
Nov 14 15:09:09 <mika_> maybe that is my fault
Nov 14 15:12:00 <caplink811> mika_,  when i used win or kde myself only hit the X button, that's all
Nov 14 15:12:42 <mika_> i close first all the windows maybe that kills the conection with the rooms ???
Nov 14 15:13:16 <mika_> i wil try to use the X button to close X-chat complete
Nov 14 15:13:18 <caplink811> hm, i don't believe on that
Nov 14 15:13:28 <mika_> ok so that is not the problem
Nov 14 15:14:33 <caplink811> well, my gf gifted me with a strong cold, it's time ti heading og to bed now, and get some drugs
Nov 14 15:15:01 <caplink811> so, gnite all, catch ya tomorrow
Nov 14 15:15:22 <bazz-> good night 
Nov 14 15:15:27 <hld> could someone provide me a cryptet password and a cleartext one for use with psybnc?
Nov 14 15:15:30 <hld> n8 cap
Nov 14 15:15:47 <bazz-> hld just enter . after the first = 
Nov 14 15:15:58 <caplink811> i'm feel so emotional now ;) pls hold me ;)
Nov 14 15:15:59 <bazz-> and restart the bnc
Nov 14 15:16:01 <mika_> night
Nov 14 15:16:09 <bazz-> caplink811: ask your gf ;)
Nov 14 15:16:33 <caplink811> yeah, good idea, if she wasn't at the phone at this time <eg>
Nov 14 15:16:44 * mika_ also to bed
Nov 14 15:16:50 <caplink811> women, tststs
Nov 14 15:19:16 <hld> USER1.USER.PASS=. like that?
Nov 14 15:20:53 <bazz-> yep
Nov 14 15:21:01 <bazz-> it worked ages ago
Nov 14 15:21:04 <bazz-> should still work
Nov 14 15:21:40 <hld> and then? connect without pass?!
Nov 14 15:21:45 <bazz-> no
Nov 14 15:21:51 <bazz-> connect with . (dot) as pass
Nov 14 15:22:22 <hld> wrong pass
Nov 14 15:22:29 <bazz-> try with double ==
Nov 14 15:23:08 <hld> nope
Nov 14 15:23:32 <bazz-> too bad :)
Nov 14 15:23:42 <bazz-> why don't you remove all users
Nov 14 15:23:45 <bazz-> and connect to it
Nov 14 15:24:08 <bazz-> just leave in the standard 3 lines
Nov 14 15:24:30 <bazz-> connect to it, and do /quote pass qwerty
Nov 14 15:24:38 <bazz-> your pass will be qwerty and in the conf file
Nov 14 15:24:55 <hld> worked, thanks
Nov 14 15:25:20 <bazz-> np
Nov 14 15:25:47 <hld> now i just need a psybnc version for the nslu with ssl support :D
Nov 14 15:25:58 <bazz-> have the same problem ;)
Nov 14 15:26:06 <bazz-> trying to recompile it
Nov 14 15:26:23 <hld> notice me if you are successufl ;)
Nov 14 15:26:36 <bazz-> k ;)
Nov 14 15:26:42 <hld> wasn't there an option, that psybnc stores the dccs for you?!
Nov 14 15:27:07 <bazz-> /dccenable 
Nov 14 15:27:19 <bazz-> dccchat dccsend
Nov 14 15:27:27 <bazz-> try bhelp
Nov 14 17:54:27 <cheef-daniel> hi somebody in who has a working 'groups'-command?
Nov 14 17:54:33 <cheef-daniel> (openslug)
Nov 14 21:46:49 <Zhyla> cheef-daniel:  why you need a groups command?
Nov 14 21:47:08 <cheef-daniel> I got it already to work
Nov 14 21:47:27 <cheef-daniel> I need it because I had troubles to add a user to a group
Nov 14 21:47:39 <Zhyla> I need mii-tool for openslug, I'm trying to work out why samba has such bad performance on this guy
Nov 14 21:50:03 <cheef-daniel> sorry can't help you with that, Im not good in linux at time
Nov 14 22:10:14 <encode> hi cheef-daniel 
Nov 14 22:10:32 <cheef-daniel> hi
Nov 14 22:10:36 <encode> i was told earlier that you had gotten alsa working with your slug - is that right?>
Nov 14 22:11:03 <cheef-daniel> yes my alsa works fine
Nov 14 22:11:12 <encode> what sound card are you using?
Nov 14 22:11:39 <cheef-daniel> its a onboard souncard of my USB 5.1 Surround headset (cmedia-chipset)
Nov 14 22:11:48 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:12:05 <encode> i tried to get it working with my creative   soundblaster mp3+
Nov 14 22:12:09 <encode> but i cant
Nov 14 22:12:57 <cheef-daniel> I had to load some kernel-modules like the kernel-module-pcm-oss with ipkg
Nov 14 22:13:26 <encode> i installed that, amongst others
Nov 14 22:13:37 <encode> did you have to manually load that module using modprobe?
Nov 14 22:13:44 <cheef-daniel> is the card recognized when you plug it in?
Nov 14 22:14:12 <encode> well, dmesg shows its detected as a usb audio device
Nov 14 22:14:20 <cheef-daniel> no, the modules get loaded when I turnoff / turnon my headset
Nov 14 22:14:20 <encode> but none of the /dev/dsp's work
Nov 14 22:14:47 <cheef-daniel> what says speakertest?
Nov 14 22:15:08 <encode> # speaker-test -D /dev/dsp
Nov 14 22:15:08 <encode> speaker-test 1.0.8
Nov 14 22:15:08 <encode> Playback device is /dev/dsp
Nov 14 22:15:08 <encode> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_BE, 1 channels
Nov 14 22:15:08 <encode> Sine wave rate is 440.0000Hz
Nov 14 22:15:10 <encode> ALSA lib pcm.c:2068:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/dsp
Nov 14 22:15:13 <encode> Playback open error: No such file or directory
Nov 14 22:15:39 <encode> i posted the details to the mailing list
Nov 14 22:15:45 <cheef-daniel> is there a file /dev/dsp?
Nov 14 22:15:51 <encode> yes
Nov 14 22:16:03 <encode> and dsp1, dsp2 and dsp3
Nov 14 22:16:12 <encode> aumix shows the correct channels
Nov 14 22:16:17 <encode> but thats all i can get to work
Nov 14 22:16:18 <cheef-daniel> at my system the whole /dev... for sound was missing
Nov 14 22:16:35 <encode> so how did you create them?
Nov 14 22:16:45 <cheef-daniel> so I had to run a script from alsa-driver dir
Nov 14 22:16:55 <encode> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/9868 <-- output of various commands
Nov 14 22:16:56 <cheef-daniel> it was from source package
Nov 14 22:17:51 <encode> so by source package, you mean something not available in the ipkg repository
Nov 14 22:18:01 <cheef-daniel> yes
Nov 14 22:18:38 <cheef-daniel> I use openslug, for alsa is no ipkg made, so I must compile it
Nov 14 22:19:02 <encode> i'm using openslug also
Nov 14 22:19:10 <cheef-daniel> I see that the audio module is not loaded when I use my headset
Nov 14 22:19:13 <encode> maybe thats my problem - i installed the kernel module
Nov 14 22:19:26 <encode> a few of them actually
Nov 14 22:19:36 <encode> and obviously speakertest and aumix
Nov 14 22:19:44 <cheef-daniel> I installed all the modules with ipkg
Nov 14 22:19:51 <cheef-daniel> me 2
Nov 14 22:20:05 <cheef-daniel> where do you get alsa?
Nov 14 22:20:15 <encode> so theres some userspace part of alsa i need to compile?
Nov 14 22:20:38 <cheef-daniel> I compiled the whole alsa
Nov 14 22:20:39 <encode> the only audio stuff i've installed is in the openslug 2.7 beta repository
Nov 14 22:21:14 <encode> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.9b.tar.bz2 <-- is that what i need?
Nov 14 22:21:17 <cheef-daniel> I manual downloaded alsa from alsa-homepage and build them natively
Nov 14 22:21:48 <cheef-daniel> I searching my version...
Nov 14 22:23:40 <cheef-daniel> its alsa-driver-0.9.6 from the bitbake
Nov 14 22:24:43 <cheef-daniel> I did compile it with the openslug-native environment and bitbake
Nov 14 22:24:54 <cheef-daniel> alsa was included there
Nov 14 22:25:03 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:25:12 <encode> let me try playing around with that
Nov 14 22:25:32 <cheef-daniel> and the script I executed manually was snddevices
Nov 14 22:25:56 <cheef-daniel> but I must edit it because there was the wrong user in it
Nov 14 22:27:33 <cheef-daniel> oh stop
Nov 14 22:27:49 <cheef-daniel> wrong information: I build it on my crosscompiler, debian
Nov 14 22:28:16 <cheef-daniel> it is version 1.0.8
Nov 14 22:28:23 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:28:39 <cheef-daniel> you want the ipkg packages?
Nov 14 22:28:43 <encode> yes please
Nov 14 22:28:48 <encode> if you don't mind
Nov 14 22:28:51 <cheef-daniel> I can Mail them to you
Nov 14 22:28:55 <encode> what kernel are you running?
Nov 14 22:29:04 <cheef-daniel> 2.6.12.2
Nov 14 22:29:40 <cheef-daniel> Openslug 2.7
Nov 14 22:29:40 <encode> can you dcc them to me? mailing binaries is so inefficient
Nov 14 22:29:47 <cheef-daniel> I can try it
Nov 14 22:29:49 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:32:07 <encode> oh o
Nov 14 22:32:43 <encode> whoopsie
Nov 14 22:32:51 <cheef-daniel> oh sending multiple files was a bad idea
Nov 14 22:32:56 <encode> yes
Nov 14 22:33:36 <encode> perhaps email would be better in that case
Nov 14 22:34:07 <cheef-daniel> didn't you get the dcc-windows?
Nov 14 22:34:35 <encode> i got about 4 sends, but only one file before you quit
Nov 14 22:34:51 <encode> i dont understand why the files are so small also
Nov 14 22:35:00 <cheef-daniel> I send you one again
Nov 14 22:35:04 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:35:16 <cheef-daniel> alsa.zip
Nov 14 22:35:22 <cheef-daniel> got it?
Nov 14 22:35:29 <encode> no
Nov 14 22:35:38 <cheef-daniel> ok I email it
Nov 14 22:36:39 <cheef-daniel> you've got mail
Nov 14 22:36:44 <encode> ta
Nov 14 22:39:49 <encode> ok, just installing them didnt help
Nov 14 22:40:26 <cheef-daniel> what version dows alsactrl -v say?
Nov 14 22:40:47 <cheef-daniel> alsactl -v
Nov 14 22:41:17 <encode> # alsactl -v
Nov 14 22:41:17 <encode> alsactl version 1.0.8
Nov 14 22:41:22 <cheef-daniel> ok
Nov 14 22:41:38 <encode> i've got a whole pile of errors in dmesg now
Nov 14 22:41:39 <encode> snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_notify
Nov 14 22:41:39 <encode> snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_interrupt
Nov 14 22:41:43 <encode> like that ^
Nov 14 22:42:14 <cheef-daniel> snd_timer module is loaded?
Nov 14 22:42:51 <encode> snd_usb_audio          40448  0
Nov 14 22:42:58 <encode> snd_timer              13764  1 snd_pcm
Nov 14 22:43:00 <encode> yep
Nov 14 22:43:42 <cheef-daniel> mh
Nov 14 22:44:39 <cheef-daniel> did I missed some ipkg-package?
Nov 14 22:44:47 <encode> i dont think so
Nov 14 22:45:13 <cheef-daniel> at my system dmesg dosn't show this error
Nov 14 22:45:38 <cheef-daniel> was there some error when you installed my packages?
Nov 14 22:45:53 <encode> no
Nov 14 22:46:05 <encode> im just removing all the alsa packages
Nov 14 22:46:14 <encode> and then we'll try again
Nov 14 22:46:25 <cheef-daniel> ok
Nov 14 22:47:05 <cheef-daniel> you must install every file I send you
Nov 14 22:47:09 <encode> i did
Nov 14 22:47:21 <encode> ipkg install alsa-*
Nov 14 22:47:50 <cheef-daniel> when I installed them I have got some error about a missing locale, but it works
Nov 14 22:48:24 <cheef-daniel> I installed them with ipkg install filename1 filename2 filname...
Nov 14 22:48:38 <encode> same thing
Nov 14 22:48:45 <encode> bash takes care of that
Nov 14 22:49:08 <encode> the kernel modules you're using - did you get them from the repository?
Nov 14 22:49:21 <cheef-daniel> no with ipkg
Nov 14 22:50:01 <encode> thats what i meant
Nov 14 22:50:30 <cheef-daniel> ok my englisch is not the best
Nov 14 22:50:51 <encode> so you did ipkg install kernel-module-audio
Nov 14 22:51:10 <cheef-daniel> yes and kernel-module-snd...
Nov 14 22:51:33 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:54:03 <cheef-daniel> and last after installing everyything I executed alsa-driver../snddevices
Nov 14 22:54:14 <cheef-daniel> in the source directory
Nov 14 22:55:20 <encode> ok
Nov 14 22:55:34 <encode> i'll have to see if i can get 1.08 source from somewhere then
Nov 14 22:56:37 <cheef-daniel> I see there is alsa 1.0.8 in ipkg, if you cant get my build to work use it
Nov 14 22:59:22 <cheef-daniel> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
Nov 14 23:01:44 <encode> yep i'll try that
Nov 14 23:02:07 <encode> i've reinstalled the kernel modules, and your alsa packages
Nov 14 23:02:10 <encode> but still no good
Nov 14 23:02:36 <cheef-daniel> eventually I missed something
Nov 14 23:02:52 <encode> it could just be the different sound cards too
Nov 14 23:03:34 <cheef-daniel> but you got the error only with my alsa-packages, so I think I missed something
Nov 14 23:09:15 <encode> the big problem is, i dont know if its the kernel modules, the userspace alsa programs, or something else completely
Nov 14 23:11:34 <CheefDaniel> bb
Nov 14 23:15:43 <CheefDaniel> encode, before testing music, ensure thar the mixersetings with alsamixer are correct, it could be VERY loud for first time
Nov 14 23:15:52 <CheefDaniel> <--;-)
Nov 14 23:16:24 <encode> lol, im not too concerned about that at the moment
Nov 14 23:16:37 <encode> speakertest has to actually be able to write to the device before that could happen
Nov 14 23:16:48 <encode> and i have no outputs connected to my soundcard currently
Nov 14 23:17:28 <CheefDaniel> my headset on the ears where very loud first time :-)
Nov 14 23:18:08 <CheefDaniel> I had the same problem first time with speakertest and all other programm like that
Nov 14 23:19:03 <CheefDaniel> I think after executing the modified snddevices and loading the modules it was working at my system
Nov 14 23:19:47 <CheefDaniel> does your modules get automaic load when you plugin your soundcard?
Nov 14 23:21:48 <encode> yes
Nov 14 23:22:16 <CheefDaniel> and all pcm-oss modules too?
Nov 14 23:22:48 <CheefDaniel> snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss
Nov 14 23:23:08 <encode> yes
Nov 14 23:23:18 <encode> snd_usb_audio          40448  0
Nov 14 23:23:18 <encode> snd_pcm                54984  1 snd_usb_audio
Nov 14 23:23:18 <encode> snd_timer              13764  1 snd_pcm
Nov 14 23:23:18 <encode> snd_page_alloc          3716  1 snd_pcm
Nov 14 23:23:18 <encode> snd_usb_lib             8800  1 snd_usb_audio
Nov 14 23:23:21 <encode> snd_rawmidi            13056  1 snd_usb_lib
Nov 14 23:23:23 <encode> snd                    26520  4 snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi
Nov 14 23:23:25 <CheefDaniel> and snddevices works?
Nov 14 23:23:26 <encode> soundcore               3748  1 snd
Nov 14 23:23:57 <encode> well it runs, but i dont think it's doing much, since those devices already worked
Nov 14 23:24:26 <CheefDaniel> at my openslug many where missing
Nov 14 23:25:35 <CheefDaniel> the oss -modules are missing
Nov 14 23:26:00 <CheefDaniel> my: snd                    26520  6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm,           snd_timer,snd_rawmidi
Nov 14 23:26:55 <encode> so they are
Nov 14 23:27:20 <cheef-daniel> without them I have same problem like you
Nov 14 23:30:58 <encode> ok
Nov 14 23:31:14 <cheef-daniel> ok? it works?
Nov 14 23:32:56 <encode> no, havent tried it yet
Nov 14 23:34:31 <cheef-daniel> I need some sleep
Nov 14 23:35:03 <encode> still same problem
Nov 14 23:35:10 <encode> ok, thanks for your help anyway
Nov 14 23:35:10 <cheef-daniel> n8
Nov 14 23:35:30 <cheef-daniel> I am in here today again
Nov 14 23:36:03 <cheef-daniel> welcome
Nov 14 23:36:05 <cheef-daniel> bye
Nov 15 00:17:25 <encode> why do i get "EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=502" or missing value" when i try and run the following command:
Nov 15 00:17:43 <encode> mount -o gid=nathan /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1/
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