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Dec 05 09:06:51 <jelle> how can I properly setup ntp on my slug? openslug 2.7 beta. the wiki seems to be somewhat out of date...
Dec 05 09:23:06 <jelle> I'm back. did I miss anything?
Dec 05 09:44:58 <mwester> Hi jelle - no you didn't miss anything.  Ignore anything about ntp on unslung; I think that's all out of date.  NTP on openslug just pretty much seems to work - check the ntp.conf file to make sure you point to an ntp server (pool.ntp.org works for me). 
Dec 05 11:43:58 <chiny> ntp... worked out-of-the-ipkg for me using big Linux box config
Dec 05 11:45:31 <chiny> Using "local" pool... like server 0.uk.pool.ntp.org is good.   Obviously replace uk for your location.
Dec 05 11:46:01 <chiny> But for me, ntpq did not compile and unresolved so far.
Dec 05 11:51:12 <chiny> Use several servers, not 2, better 4.
Dec 05 14:41:25 <Mika_> morning
Dec 05 14:47:07 <caplink811> morning Mika_ , how's life going ?
Dec 05 14:47:24 <Mika_> Fine and You how is it  ?
Dec 05 14:49:39 <Mika_> caplink811, 
Dec 05 14:51:25 <ibedonc> debian interfaces file question ?    (longtime Mandrake user) on slug
Dec 05 14:51:49 <caplink811> nice, thanks, cold is gone, got my voice back, got a new job offer, well, really nice
Dec 05 14:52:06 <ibedonc> I have USB200 and onboard
Dec 05 14:52:19 <Mika_> And is it a beter job as You have now ?
Dec 05 14:52:33 <caplink811> ibedonc, just trythis job maybe more sure
Dec 05 14:52:39 <caplink811> ibedonc, sorry
Dec 05 14:52:58 <caplink811> Mika_, this job would be more sure
Dec 05 14:53:04 <ibedonc> onboard does not not come up on boot
Dec 05 14:53:15 <ibedonc> have to ifup it
Dec 05 14:53:43 <caplink811> ibedonc, on debianslug?
Dec 05 14:53:44 <Mika_> Ok so maybe you take the job
Dec 05 14:54:19 <ibedonc> opendebianslug
Dec 05 14:54:56 <ibedonc> new to this debian stuff
Dec 05 14:55:07 <ibedonc> mandrake does not do it that way
Dec 05 14:55:24 <caplink811> Mika_, well, that decision depends on different things, fun, money, social benefits, and at least a company car
Dec 05 14:56:00 <Mika_> You forget your girlfriend :P
Dec 05 14:56:35 <caplink811> Mika_, thats not the problem, i'm think i'll stay in berlin
Dec 05 14:57:13 <Mika_> Is the new job also in berlin ?
Dec 05 14:57:19 <caplink811> ibedonc, have a look at /etc/network/interfaces
Dec 05 14:57:43 <caplink811> Mika_, i hope so, but in this times, everything is virtual,  offices too
Dec 05 14:58:21 <Mika_> Ok... so it is start the new job ?
Dec 05 14:59:18 <caplink811> Mika_, and my actual company car is 7 month old, and there are 30000km on the mileage counter
Dec 05 14:59:49 <caplink811> well, lets see, i have an appoinment in frankfurt in 10 days
Dec 05 15:00:08 <Mika_> So that is much...are you truck driver lol
Dec 05 15:00:48 <caplink811> nope, field support for private telco equipment
Dec 05 15:01:24 <caplink811> and periphery
Dec 05 15:01:26 <Mika_> yes i know u told me before
Dec 05 15:01:33 <Mika_> i was joke about the km 
Dec 05 15:01:44 <caplink811> i hope so ;)
Dec 05 15:02:40 * ByronT is away: auto-away after 180m idle
Dec 05 15:03:19 <caplink811> ~roulette
Dec 05 15:03:58 <caplink811> ~botsnack
Dec 05 15:03:58 <capbot> aw, gee, caplink811
Dec 05 15:04:20 <caplink811> capbot , hi :)
Dec 05 15:04:33 <caplink811> capbot , hi
Dec 05 15:04:33 <capbot> privet, caplink811
Dec 05 15:04:48 <caplink811> stupid bot
Dec 05 15:07:16 <caplink811> ibedonc, this i mine http://pastebin.com/450133
Dec 05 15:07:18 <Mika_> lol
Dec 05 15:07:31 <caplink811> s/i/is/g
Dec 05 15:07:50 <Mika_> What is wrong with ur bot then ?
Dec 05 15:08:18 <Mika_> he wil u prived :D
Dec 05 15:11:07 <caplink811> hm, dunno, what he mean, imho it is french..
Dec 05 15:12:21 <caplink811> he cognized capot , hi but not capbot , hi :) , that is stupid
Dec 05 15:13:12 <Mika_> is all 3 from u /.?
Dec 05 15:14:36 <caplink811> which 3 ? capbot (running on unslung5.5), or caplink811_log -> miau (bouncer running on the same machine) ? and me ?
Dec 05 15:14:57 <Mika_> ok i understand :) 
Dec 05 15:15:27 <Mika_> do u know a webmail server for on the nlsu?
Dec 05 15:16:20 <caplink811> imho squirrelmail maybe a choice, imho, it is perl or php and this should work out of the box
Dec 05 15:17:17 <Mika_> and it is not to big for the nlsu ? because phpsysinfo kills apache
Dec 05 15:17:30 <caplink811> php ... http://www.squirrelmail.org/
Dec 05 15:17:57 <caplink811> don't know, haven't try this, no need for email services on the slug
Dec 05 15:18:31 <Mika_> i was think it is nice to try.. 
Dec 05 15:18:36 * caplink811 is a happy gmx customer (pay service)
Dec 05 15:19:17 <caplink811> maybe that appweb+php is the better choice (from memory/speed point of view)
Dec 05 15:19:47 <Mika_> appweb ? is that like apache or thttp ?
Dec 05 15:19:54 <Mika_> or like  squirrelmail
Dec 05 15:20:33 <caplink811> imho, there are three packages for unslung avaiable, thttpd appweb and apache
Dec 05 15:21:21 <caplink811> [root@linus root]$ ipkg list|grep appweb
Dec 05 15:21:22 <caplink811> appweb - 2.0.3-6 - AppWeb is the leading web server technology for embedding in devices and applications. Supports embedded javascript, CGI, Virtu
Dec 05 15:21:28 <Mika_> ok 
Dec 05 15:21:39 <Mika_> and appweb is more quick ?
Dec 05 15:22:02 <caplink811> there should be a page on the wiki, about appweb and php, imho
Dec 05 15:22:14 <caplink811> imho yes, it is build for embedded devices
Dec 05 15:22:34 <caplink811> and the memory footprint should be much smaller
Dec 05 15:22:41 <Mika_> ok but it dont work with htaccess 
Dec 05 15:24:03 <caplink811> sorry, no experiences with that topic :(
Dec 05 15:24:20 <Mika_> lol no problem google is a good friend
Dec 05 15:24:22 <Mika_> :)
Dec 05 15:26:15 <caplink811> ibedonc, any progress with your interface ?
Dec 05 15:35:27 <Mika_> There is no php in appweb for the nlsu 
Dec 05 15:36:47 <caplink811> hm, afair there is a possibility to get this combination to work
Dec 05 15:37:39 <Mika_> let me search more then :D
Dec 05 15:40:27 <caplink811> there is a build option in configure for appweb, with php, i'll have a look in the appweb.mk, just a moment
Dec 05 15:41:41 <caplink811> the optware appweb binary is build with php5 support, as loadable module
Dec 05 15:44:08 <Mika_> is it on the website ?
Dec 05 15:45:03 <caplink811> ipkg install appweb , that's all. i'll have a look at the wiki
Dec 05 15:46:45 <Mika_> ok i know that part ...but how i add then php
Dec 05 15:49:38 <caplink811> Mika_, http://mbedthis.com/products/appWeb/doc/common/guide/php.html
Dec 05 15:52:12 <Mika_> so if i read it good php is already in appweb ... after you do ipkg install php
Dec 05 15:54:19 <Mika_> or must i add the modules ?
Dec 05 15:56:29 <caplink811> in my understanding, it should work after installing php
Dec 05 15:57:10 <Mika_> yes i was think the same
Dec 05 15:57:24 <Mika_> lets try before i go sleep :)
Dec 05 15:57:43 <caplink811>  echo '<? phpinfo() ?>' > test.php as a first test, and then browse to test.php
Dec 05 15:57:51 <Mika_> i am sure it works :)
Dec 05 15:58:39 <caplink811> but attention, imho appweb use a curious port per default
Dec 05 15:59:19 <Mika_> http://pastebin.com/450211
Dec 05 15:59:29 <Mika_> yes 7777 is it using
Dec 05 16:02:44 <Mika_> # /opt/etc/init.d/S81appweb
Dec 05 16:02:45 <Mika_> #    default:1 main  Error: Security risk, Program /opt/sbin/appWeb is writable by others
Dec 05 16:02:48 <caplink811> Mika_, in my appweb.conf i have to comment out the loadmodule and the addhandler directives
Dec 05 16:04:37 <Mika_> Sorry .. can u paste caplink811 
Dec 05 16:06:13 <caplink811> my conf ?
Dec 05 16:06:47 <Mika_> about comment out the loadmodule
Dec 05 16:07:03 <Mika_> did u see my error
Dec 05 16:07:55 <caplink811> # LoadModule php4 libphp4Module
Dec 05 16:07:56 <caplink811> LoadModule php5 libphp5Module
Dec 05 16:08:16 <caplink811> # AddHandler php4Handler .php
Dec 05 16:08:17 <caplink811> AddHandler php5Handler .php
Dec 05 16:08:25 <caplink811> but this didn't work for me :(
Dec 05 16:10:44 <Mika_> no php for u ?
Dec 05 16:12:23 <caplink811> nope
Dec 05 16:12:26 <Mika_> appweb wil not start here let me see the log
Dec 05 16:14:26 <caplink811> chmod 775 /usr/sbin/appWeb may help
Dec 05 16:15:35 <Mika_>  Error: Can't load /opt/lib/libcapiModule.so
Dec 05 16:15:50 <Mika_> yes i fix my problem with a chmod
Dec 05 16:16:08 <Mika_> but now i have to comment out this
Dec 05 16:18:13 <Mika_> or find out what libcapi is
Dec 05 16:20:14 <caplink811> have a look in /opt/lib there should be a libcapimodule.so
Dec 05 16:20:30 <caplink811> libcapiModule.so
Dec 05 16:20:44 <Mika_> i have the same problem with php.. it can not find php5 module
Dec 05 16:22:19 <caplink811> well, as you mentioned before, it is time, to heading to bed, i'll have a look at this behaviour at wednesday
Dec 05 16:23:21 <caplink811> seems appweb could not build cross. so it may take some time to build it native on the slug
Dec 05 16:24:30 <Mika_> yes.. maybe it is a chmod problems from the modules ?
Dec 05 16:24:49 <Mika_> because all are in the  /opt/lib also php5
Dec 05 16:24:57 <Mika_> but he can not load
Dec 05 16:25:16 <caplink811> libphp5Module.so too ?
Dec 05 16:26:09 <Mika_> yes
Dec 05 16:26:33 <Mika_> libphp5Module.so
Dec 05 16:26:45 <caplink811> mom, just do a reinstall
Dec 05 16:27:10 <Mika_> # ls -l /opt/lib/libphp5Module.so
Dec 05 16:27:10 <Mika_> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 14328 Nov  5 23:15 /opt/lib/libphp5Module.so
Dec 05 16:36:48 <Mika_> caplink811, i can not find it now.. but i need to sleep
Dec 05 16:36:53 <Mika_> i speak u tomorow
Dec 05 16:37:31 <caplink811> wednesday, today is my gf's birthday, have a good night
Dec 05 16:41:52 <Mika_> heyy happybirthdayyyy
Dec 05 16:42:11 <Mika_> So lets get a beer :D
Dec 05 16:43:26 <caplink811> i have one :)
Dec 05 16:44:05 <caplink811> hm, have some probs to start appweb, it could read or will read his conf file :(
Dec 05 16:44:07 <Mika_> nice..lol...give her a kiss from me ..and we wil speak wednesday
Dec 05 16:44:13 <caplink811> but enough for today
Dec 05 16:44:14 <Mika_> have a nice party today
Dec 05 16:44:18 <caplink811> off now, bye
Dec 05 16:44:31 <caplink811> thanks, we'll have
Dec 05 19:22:50 <cheef-daniel> 
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Dec 05 19:52:41 <ibedonc> does anyone know why load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00  always that
Dec 05 21:11:15 <mwester> ibedonc - what utility are you using that reads that load average?
Dec 05 21:16:39 <ibedonc> w
Dec 05 21:16:43 <ibedonc> or top
Dec 05 21:17:26 <ibedonc> was told it was because of the intel eth driver
Dec 05 21:19:34 <mwester> Oh - ok.  Mine does the same, but I never knew why!
Dec 05 21:19:42 <mwester> Thanks!
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