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Feb 03 03:03:57 <ChrZZ> drif, thx :)
Feb 03 03:04:05 <drif> np
Feb 03 03:04:25 <ChrZZ> hmmm.... maybe time for bed..
Feb 03 03:04:26 <ChrZZ> heh
Feb 03 03:05:09 <drif> what's the time there?
Feb 03 03:05:10 <ChrZZ> safes way to detach disk2 (usb exsternal)?
Feb 03 03:05:14 <ChrZZ> 03:50
Feb 03 03:05:16 <ChrZZ> am
Feb 03 03:05:27 <ChrZZ> School @ 08
Feb 03 03:05:31 <drif> 05am
Feb 03 03:05:44 <ChrZZ> but..safes way to detach disk2 (usb exsternal)?
Feb 03 03:05:48 <drif> but fortunately no school @ 08
Feb 03 03:05:49 <ChrZZ> *safest
Feb 03 03:05:50 <ChrZZ> hehe
Feb 03 03:06:01 <drif> umount?
Feb 03 03:06:15 <ChrZZ> which mountpoint?
Feb 03 03:06:50 <drif> mount
Feb 03 03:07:04 <drif> or df
Feb 03 03:07:10 <drif> both outputs are usable
Feb 03 03:07:40 <ChrZZ> umount /dev/sdb1 and sdb2?
Feb 03 03:08:47 <drif> yes
Feb 03 03:08:55 <drif> if both are mount
Feb 03 03:09:12 <drif> I'd still like to see mount or df output
Feb 03 03:09:37 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb1 on /share/flash/data type ext3 (rw)
Feb 03 03:09:49 <ChrZZ> (I've umounted the sdb2
Feb 03 03:09:51 <ChrZZ> )
Feb 03 03:10:02 <drif> where did sdb2 point?
Feb 03 03:10:22 <drif> fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Feb 03 03:10:46 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb2 on /share/flash/conf type ext3 (rw,sync)
Feb 03 03:10:46 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb1 on /share/flash/data type ext3 (rw)
Feb 03 03:11:00 <ChrZZ> that was the mount points before I umountet sdb2
Feb 03 03:11:10 <drif> what's sda then?
Feb 03 03:11:28 <ChrZZ> a usb stick
Feb 03 03:11:35 <ChrZZ> running the system from the usb stik
Feb 03 03:11:37 <ChrZZ> *stick
Feb 03 03:11:58 <drif> you used to have system on hdd then?
Feb 03 03:12:17 <drif> or why on several partitions
Feb 03 03:12:42 <ChrZZ> hmmm... I just formated the sdb with format @ webinteface
Feb 03 03:12:48 <ChrZZ> IIRC
Feb 03 03:14:00 <drif> fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Feb 03 03:14:06 <drif> let me see that output
Feb 03 03:14:26 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb1             1     57091  58461168   83  Linux
Feb 03 03:14:26 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb2         57092     57216    128000   83  Linux
Feb 03 03:14:26 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb3         57217     57278     63488   82  Linux swap
Feb 03 03:14:52 <drif> do you like it being sliced like that?
Feb 03 03:15:37 <drif> or would you prefer as one piece
Feb 03 03:15:43 <ChrZZ> hehe. Havn't got any problems with i yet, but it isn't pretty or well orginazed. How to make it into one big partition?
Feb 03 03:15:50 <ChrZZ> without formating.
Feb 03 03:16:02 <ChrZZ> *with it
Feb 03 03:16:06 <drif> so it's full of stuff?
Feb 03 03:17:02 <drif> well, the advantage there is that you can enable swapping to hdd if you happen to have it attached
Feb 03 03:17:36 <ChrZZ> Hmmm... then it may not be so bad afterall?
Feb 03 03:17:48 <ChrZZ> since I'm using a usb-stick as main system?
Feb 03 03:18:05 <drif> true - and can't therefore enable swap on stick (not recommended anyway)
Feb 03 03:18:30 <drif> just swapon /dev/sdb3
Feb 03 03:18:48 <drif> and swapoff /dev/sdb3 when you are going to detach the drive
Feb 03 03:19:04 <ChrZZ> swapon: swapon: Device or resource busy
Feb 03 03:19:11 <ChrZZ> anyway to force?
Feb 03 03:19:24 <drif> a sec
Feb 03 03:19:27 <drif> don't do anything
Feb 03 03:20:00 <drif> back
Feb 03 03:20:37 <drif> swapon /dev/sdb3 gives device busy?
Feb 03 03:20:58 <ChrZZ> yeah
Feb 03 03:20:59 <drif> cat /proc/swaps
Feb 03 03:21:08 <drif> any lines?
Feb 03 03:21:16 <ChrZZ> Filename                        Type            Size    Used    Priority
Feb 03 03:21:16 <ChrZZ> /dev/sdb3                       partition       63484   17004   -2
Feb 03 03:21:24 <drif> ok, it's enabled then
Feb 03 03:21:41 <drif> swapoff /dev/sdb3 before you try to detach the hdd
Feb 03 03:21:54 <ChrZZ> maybe just place it into a bash script then?
Feb 03 03:21:58 <ChrZZ> so I remember ;)
Feb 03 03:22:46 <drif> free
Feb 03 03:22:54 <drif> how much swap in use
Feb 03 03:23:50 <ChrZZ> Right now: null
Feb 03 03:24:24 <ChrZZ> because I ran `swapoff /dev/sdb3` and `umount /dev/sdb1`
Feb 03 03:24:29 <drif> heh
Feb 03 03:24:34 <ChrZZ> So I can unplug it
Feb 03 03:24:55 <ChrZZ> how "safe" to run without any swap?
Feb 03 03:25:00 <ChrZZ> makes the system real slow?
Feb 03 03:25:02 <drif> I was jsut wondering how much was used - if you were in danger of losing something because you didn't have enough memory to store it
Feb 03 03:25:20 <ChrZZ> Mem:     30520k total,    29872k used,      648k free,     1700k buffers
Feb 03 03:25:21 <ChrZZ> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,     6520k cached
Feb 03 03:25:25 <drif> well I have no swap at all on my slug which runs on stick
Feb 03 03:25:28 <drif> works fine
Feb 03 03:25:40 <drif> but my main slug is on hdd
Feb 03 03:26:42 <ChrZZ> so, when I replug the usb-drive (not stick), I must the run `swapon /dev/sdb3`?
Feb 03 03:27:27 <drif> I'm not sure if usb_detect or similar has some automatic for that
Feb 03 03:27:43 <drif> but you can check it with cat /proc/swaps
Feb 03 03:27:50 <ChrZZ> yeah
Feb 03 03:27:56 <ChrZZ> *try it*
Feb 03 03:29:15 <ChrZZ> it does it automatic
Feb 03 03:30:17 <drif> I thought so because swapon seemed new to you.. ?
Feb 03 03:31:09 <ChrZZ> yes ;) Just installed unslung (and got the nslu2) a couple of days ago.
Feb 03 03:31:28 <ChrZZ> Havn't been that much into disabling enabling swaps often in the past.
Feb 03 03:33:34 <drif> I can't comprehend how you have survived in such a manner
Feb 03 03:34:21 <ChrZZ> Oh? I've just been using stationary servers. With disks running for hundreds of days without being done anything to.
Feb 03 03:35:53 <drif> that was sarcasm - well atleast supposed to 
Feb 03 03:36:18 <ChrZZ> aha. Well... I'm blaming the late hour for not catching that
Feb 03 03:36:23 <ChrZZ> ;)
Feb 03 03:36:27 <ChrZZ> anywho...
Feb 03 03:36:32 <ChrZZ> It's bed time here
Feb 03 03:36:36 <drif> get some sleep :P
Feb 03 03:36:39 <ChrZZ> hehe
Feb 03 03:36:41 <ChrZZ> yeah ;)
Feb 03 03:36:46 <drif> laters
Feb 03 03:36:51 <ChrZZ> later
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