**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 10 10:59:56 2006
Feb 10 11:33:12 <Tenkawa> for some reason my cpu load wont below 1
Feb 10 11:33:18 <Tenkawa> Any ideas
Feb 10 11:36:14 <pumpkin0> the cpu-load is always > 1 for openslug, since it miscounts the idle-thread as normal thread.
Feb 10 11:40:41 <Tenkawa> ahhh
Feb 10 11:40:44 <Tenkawa> that makes sense
Feb 10 11:40:53 <Tenkawa> so far so god though
Feb 10 11:40:56 <Tenkawa> er good
Feb 10 11:41:16 <Tenkawa> it took a few hours but got gettext, glib, irssi, pork, and screen compiled
Feb 10 11:41:27 <Tenkawa> I'm irc'ing from it now
Feb 10 12:45:17 <Tenkawa> gotta say this little machine is pretty neat
Feb 10 12:46:21 <jelle> ya
Feb 10 12:46:40 <Tenkawa> pondering if i should bother with the clock mod
Feb 10 13:03:30 <pumpkin0> Tenkawa: compiling will be much faster, transfers a little. But since it has no real downside...
Feb 10 13:04:11 <Tenkawa> true
Feb 10 13:04:20 <Tenkawa> bu tgetting the case open looks a bit eerie
Feb 10 13:04:44 <Tenkawa> I have a tendency to use too much force opening up cases
Feb 10 13:04:49 <Tenkawa> I dont want to break anything
Feb 10 13:05:08 <Tenkawa> and I'd like to continue to use the case
Feb 10 13:05:29 <pumpkin0> Have you read the howto for opening the case ? 
Feb 10 13:05:45 <Tenkawa> yes
Feb 10 13:06:27 <Tenkawa> I    didnt say my fear was ratibal
Feb 10 13:06:30 <Tenkawa> er rational
Feb 10 13:07:10 <pumpkin0> It works easily. Do not pull to much and do it over something soft (so the if the borad drops out it lands on somthing soft)
Feb 10 13:07:18 <Tenkawa> no
Feb 10 13:07:19 <Tenkawa> d
Feb 10 13:08:21 * Tenkawa is also creating a cross compile environment on his dual core .. 133 is SLOW to compile with haahaa
Feb 10 13:09:50 <pumpkin0> yes, cross-c is better then native. Even a simple laptop helps. I'm ichty to try gentoo and distcc on the slug... 
Feb 10 13:10:39 <Tenkawa> heheheh
Feb 10 13:12:49 <pumpkin0> well, my next project is turning it into a PVR based on the winTV PVR Howto. But the HW is hard to get around here.
Feb 10 13:13:04 <Tenkawa> heeeehh
Feb 10 13:13:25 <Tenkawa> how would you interface the video
Feb 10 13:15:01 <pumpkin0> the PVR-Box is USB2. recording with cat, playback with mplayer. And i've go mjpeg tools running on the slug (at 2-3 fps fpr transcoding)
Feb 10 13:15:10 <Tenkawa> ahhh
Feb 10 13:15:26 <Tenkawa> wow that would take a while to transcode
Feb 10 13:17:09 <pumpkin0> Well if i record 1 hour per day ... maybe it has finished the next day then the shows restart. Anyway: the PVR-Box provides MPEG2 encoded video. So it's not that critical to recode everything.
Feb 10 13:17:26 * Tenkawa notes compiling boost and monotone even on a dual X2 4200 takes a while
Feb 10 13:17:32 <Tenkawa> true
Feb 10 13:18:39 <pumpkin0> Building the masterfile fills several GB. Mostly code. Get a good book.
Feb 10 13:18:45 <Tenkawa> haaahaa
Feb 10 13:19:07 <Tenkawa> well I got about 35 gig spare.. think that eill be enogh *rofl*
Feb 10 13:19:14 <Tenkawa> er will enough
Feb 10 13:21:37 <pumpkin0> (you'r on openslug, right ?) Building the masterfile creates every package available in ipkg. "ipkg list" gives you an idea about the task.
Feb 10 13:21:45 <Tenkawa> cool ;)
Feb 10 13:21:47 <Tenkawa> er :)
Feb 10 13:22:02 <Tenkawa> this will be a nice machine test
Feb 10 15:34:23 <Mika_> caplink811_log: how are you ?
Feb 10 15:48:17 * Tenkawa is highly impressed with nslu2 and openslug so far
Feb 10 15:57:30 <alump> Ok, wlan-powered nslu2 is "ready" : http://alump.iki.fi/photos/wlan_powered_nslu2-1.jpg - http://alump.iki.fi/photos/wlan_powered_nslu2-2.jpg
Feb 10 15:57:54 <Tenkawa> heheheh
Feb 10 15:58:25 * Tenkawa finds it intriguing something as simple as bc hasnt been ported to ipkg repository
Feb 10 15:58:58 <Tenkawa> or compiled into busybox
Feb 10 16:26:09 <Tenkawa> ok.. maybe upgrading cpan and compiling a c program at the same time on my nslu2 wasnt a great idea
Feb 10 16:26:24 <Tenkawa> load average is up to 4.76
Feb 10 16:27:14 <pumpkin0> alump: Cool stuff. That's a WLAN-dongle right ? Connected to the unused 3. USB-Port ? And the allways-on-mod. But there are at least 4 cables i cannot identify. What else did you do to your slug ?
Feb 10 16:27:38 <pumpkin0> Tenkawa: don't worry, it'll get higher ... 
Feb 10 16:28:12 <Tenkawa> pumpkin0: yeah I know :)
Feb 10 16:28:21 <Tenkawa> alump: nice wiring
Feb 10 16:28:46 <alump> http://alump.iki.fi/alink-usb-wlan.jpg - the dongle
Feb 10 16:29:41 <alump> and all connections are in 2 parts (so only 4 connections)
Feb 10 16:30:11 <Tenkawa> pumpkin0: is there any reason using openslug I couldnt boot off a compact flash to usb drive?
Feb 10 16:30:24 <Tenkawa> I couldnt seem to get it to work
Feb 10 16:30:34 <Tenkawa> once booted I can read the card but cant boot off it
Feb 10 16:31:33 <pumpkin0> alump: now i understand, thought you had found something new. Looked at the places on my slug and started to scratch head what you did....
Feb 10 16:32:07 * Tenkawa would really be impressed if someone figured out a way to geta mini pci slot on there
Feb 10 16:32:23 <pumpkin0> Tenkawa: openslug can boot of a stick. You just have to get the config right. Did you remove ".recover" on the stick ?
Feb 10 16:32:36 <alump> yeah. this way it is easier to correct mistake ;)
Feb 10 16:32:37 * Tenkawa then again is pretty impressed with the amount of mods as it is
Feb 10 16:32:45 <Tenkawa> pumpkin0: oh.. no
Feb 10 16:33:18 <Tenkawa> I'd definitely much rather use this 4 gig microdrive I got than the 80 gig drive I'm currently running
Feb 10 16:33:32 <pumpkin0> alump: *g* i know the feeling then SMD-soldering goes wrong. Nice job.
Feb 10 16:34:20 <pumpkin0> Tenkawa: you know Flash is not wirtable at inifinum ? Flashs wear out after some time. 
Feb 10 16:35:35 <Tenkawa> pumpkin0: aren't microdrives platter/head driven and not flash?
Feb 10 16:37:14 <pumpkin0> Tenkawa: Microdrives are normal HD's, but with a very limited lifetime. And designed to run only for a short time on end. But it is possible to boot the slug off these. You just have to get the config-files right.
Feb 10 16:37:33 <Tenkawa> nod
Feb 10 16:37:53 <Tenkawa> This was the drive out of my ipod mini before it died *rofl*
Feb 10 16:38:21 <pumpkin0> argh.
Feb 10 16:38:48 <Tenkawa> why argh/
Feb 10 16:38:51 <Tenkawa> heh
Feb 10 16:39:55 <pumpkin0> I was wondering why sb bought a slug and the 4GB mircodrive at the same time. Usually people make sure the slug works before they upgrade. Anyway: how is the CF mounted ? 
Feb 10 16:40:27 <Tenkawa> through a usb flash adapter
Feb 10 16:40:52 <pumpkin0> no, i mean on the command-line. like mount /dev/sdX /something...
Feb 10 16:40:56 <Tenkawa> ahh
Feb 10 16:41:07 <Tenkawa> currently its not (unplugged) but it was as sdb1-3
Feb 10 16:41:21 <Tenkawa> plugged innto slot 2
Feb 10 16:41:30 <Tenkawa> tried it from boot rom in slot 1 too no go
Feb 10 16:41:46 <pumpkin0> OK, so it's working as a normal drive. wait a sec, my slug has to spin up...
Feb 10 16:42:04 <Tenkawa> yeah.. it definitely worlks as a normal drive
Feb 10 16:42:12 <Tenkawa> fdisk'd and mkfs no problem
Feb 10 16:42:21 <Tenkawa> even turnup copied over to it.. just wouldnt boot it
Feb 10 16:42:46 <pumpkin0> mkswap worked too ? 
Feb 10 16:44:03 <Tenkawa> yup
Feb 10 16:44:17 <Tenkawa> I'll try again this evening
Feb 10 16:44:30 <pumpkin0> have you used turnup before on another drive ? 
Feb 10 16:44:36 <Tenkawa> no
Feb 10 16:44:38 <Tenkawa> well
Feb 10 16:44:45 <Tenkawa> only on the usb attached one I am on atm
Feb 10 16:47:25 <pumpkin0> except for the ".recover"-file i don't see a possible problem. good luck, i gtg.
Feb 10 17:52:56 <Tenkawa> Any of ya ever compiled a kernel on the nslu2? How many hours did it take you
Feb 10 20:09:56 <newbie45> hej
Feb 10 20:10:37 <pumpkin0> ?
Feb 10 20:10:46 <newbie45> I get an error message when I want to manage groups with the web interface
Feb 10 20:11:00 * newbie45 feels braindead
Feb 10 20:11:17 <pumpkin0> which firmware are you running ?
Feb 10 20:11:25 <newbie45> latest unslung
Feb 10 20:11:35 <newbie45> (beta)
Feb 10 20:11:52 <pumpkin0> can you post the error-msg somewhere ?
Feb 10 20:12:21 <newbie45> "error: fail to get list of groups"
Feb 10 20:12:44 <newbie45> I unstalled useradd
Feb 10 20:13:17 <newbie45> another weard thing: I can't access other shares than '/public'
Feb 10 20:13:28 <caplink811_log> and which samba version do you use ?
Feb 10 20:13:46 <caplink811_log> morning, btw
Feb 10 20:13:48 <newbie45> I'll have to check /var/log/messages?
Feb 10 20:14:16 <newbie45> morning :) (it's 9:15pm here ^^)
Feb 10 20:14:28 <caplink811_log> here too, but
Feb 10 20:14:30 <caplink811_log> ~ugt
Feb 10 20:14:32 <capbot> somebody said ugt was Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant.
Feb 10 20:14:43 <newbie45> LOL
Feb 10 20:14:55 <newbie45> thanks
Feb 10 20:15:30 <caplink811_log> there could be some hints under /var/log and /var/log/samba
Feb 10 20:16:42 <newbie45> [2006/02/10 21:03:35, 0] lib/username.c:map_username(133)
Feb 10 20:16:51 <newbie45>  can't open username map no. Error No such file or directory
Feb 10 20:17:21 <caplink811_log> that is normal
Feb 10 20:17:25 <newbie45> ok
Feb 10 20:18:39 <newbie45> using the web interface I created an user with the same name as my account on my windows pc
Feb 10 20:18:46 <caplink811_log> as i ask before, which version of samba do you use?
Feb 10 20:18:57 <newbie45> how can I tell?
Feb 10 20:19:23 <caplink811_log> did you do something like ipkg install samba?
Feb 10 20:19:29 <newbie45> no
Feb 10 20:19:48 <caplink811_log> k, then i should be the linksys one (samba2)
Feb 10 20:19:49 <newbie45> sounds like I should upgrade
Feb 10 20:19:55 <newbie45> right
Feb 10 20:20:01 <newbie45> the one that came with unslung
Feb 10 20:20:07 <caplink811_log> no, that is not neccessary atm
Feb 10 20:21:05 <newbie45> I installed useradd, could that be a problem?
Feb 10 20:21:57 <caplink811_log> had you reboot (with hd) after the problem occurs?
Feb 10 20:22:03 <newbie45> yes
Feb 10 20:22:12 <newbie45> that didn't change anything
Feb 10 20:24:00 <caplink811_log> in /etc there should be some files (as links to /share/hdd/conf/filename), like usrgrp.info share.info group and passwd. can you verify that?
Feb 10 20:25:06 <newbie45> passwd is a file in /etc
Feb 10 20:25:30 <newbie45> group is a symlink to  /share/hdd/conf/group
Feb 10 20:27:56 <caplink811_log> and usrgrp.info and share.info are symlinks too?
Feb 10 20:28:47 <newbie45> yes
Feb 10 20:30:22 <caplink811_log> hm, i suppose, that /etc/passwd and /share/hdd/conf/passwd are different, may be that is the reason for your problem..
Feb 10 20:31:04 <newbie45> yes, that's right
Feb 10 20:31:08 <newbie45> they are different
Feb 10 20:33:11 <caplink811_log> you should copy /etc/passwd to /tmp/passwd (or another save place), delete /etc/passwd, symlink /share/hdd/conf/passwd to /etc/passwd and reboot (tht symlink normally happens automagically at each reboot)
Feb 10 20:33:27 <newbie45> ok, I'll try that
Feb 10 20:34:28 <caplink811_log> changing of /etc/passwd is normally useless, because you lost your changes at the next reboot
Feb 10 20:34:47 <newbie45> rebooting
Feb 10 20:35:25 <newbie45> I have to get used to the way the slug stores configuration files
Feb 10 20:35:35 <caplink811_log> you can use useradd, but you should remeber, that you must copy /etc/passwd to /share/hdd/conf (which is the "master" file)
Feb 10 20:35:52 <newbie45> ok
Feb 10 20:35:53 <caplink811_log> s/remeber/remember/
Feb 10 20:35:54 <capbot> caplink811_log meant: you can use useradd, but you should remember, that you must copy /etc/passwd to /share/hdd/conf (which is the "master" file)
Feb 10 20:37:29 <caplink811_log> btw, are you realy sure, that your rootfs is on the disk?
Feb 10 20:37:56 <newbie45> yes, quite sure
Feb 10 20:38:19 <newbie45>  /dev/sda1              2939972    291756   2618348  10% /
Feb 10 20:38:48 <newbie45> I'll have to clean up the mess in groups, right?
Feb 10 20:39:47 <caplink811_log> in passwd, or/and groups, yes i think so
Feb 10 20:40:29 <newbie45> it still tells me "error: fail to get list of groups"
Feb 10 20:41:00 <caplink811_log> hm
Feb 10 20:42:23 <caplink811_log> what happens, when you boot without hd, log in, and then attach the hd, and try the webif
Feb 10 20:43:19 <newbie45> ok, I'll try that... stand by I'll go to the basement ^^
Feb 10 20:49:09 <newbie45> back
Feb 10 20:51:40 <newbie45> ok, I'm there
Feb 10 20:55:04 <newbie45> hmmm... shouldn't it auto-mount the disk when I plug it in?
Feb 10 20:56:13 <caplink811_log> yes, it should
Feb 10 20:58:50 <newbie45> strange
Feb 10 20:59:07 <newbie45> I tried a 2nd time - same result
Feb 10 20:59:59 <newbie45> than I powered it on with the hd attached - and it boots normally 
Feb 10 21:00:44 <newbie45> is it normal that it takes 'forever' until unslung boots without HD?
Feb 10 21:01:09 <newbie45> I had to wait several minutes, it seemed to be waitung for a hd
Feb 10 21:01:31 <caplink811_log> ~2 mins if i rember correctly
Feb 10 21:01:56 <newbie45> ok :-)
Feb 10 21:02:55 <newbie45> to make a long story short... fresh install? 
Feb 10 21:04:41 <caplink811_log> that is one possibility... any other takers?
Feb 10 21:05:15 <caplink811_log> not, it seems
Feb 10 21:05:21 <newbie45> :D
Feb 10 21:06:03 <caplink811_log> my best expirience is, add users with the webinterface, and then edit the passwd file to that what you need..
Feb 10 21:06:25 <caplink811_log> (as hint for the next try)
Feb 10 21:06:32 <caplink811_log> your hd is empty?
Feb 10 21:06:36 <newbie45> ok, I'll do that - most prolly adduser/useradd messed with the configuration
Feb 10 21:06:45 <newbie45> more or less, yes
Feb 10 21:07:22 <caplink811_log> maybe, that a total startover is a good thing, flash and reformat the hd, then unsling again
Feb 10 21:07:43 <newbie45> ok. Thanks a lot :-)
Feb 10 21:08:09 <newbie45> next time I'll try to make a really lean install
Feb 10 21:08:48 <newbie45> I'll be off, I've got to chase the kids to bed
Feb 10 21:08:53 <newbie45> see you!
Feb 10 21:09:12 <caplink811_log> you know about www.nslu2-info.de 
Feb 10 21:09:24 <caplink811_log> to fast for me
Feb 10 22:25:44 <Tenkawa> wow.. the clock speed increase is quite noticeable
Feb 11 01:54:39 <EvilDevil> ~ugt
Feb 11 01:54:40 <capbot> it has been said that ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant.
Feb 11 02:05:33 <EvilDevil> ping request timed out
Feb 11 10:50:31 <newbie45> hej
Feb 11 10:50:51 <newbie45> I need a little help with unslinging
Feb 11 10:53:02 <newbie45> when I plug in the disk after log in via telnet, all I get is "WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured" - the disk won't be mounted. When I boot with the disk attached, all works fine, but obviously I can't unsling
Feb 11 10:59:02 <Mika_> can you not try to format the disk newbie45 
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