**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 12 09:59:57 2006 Apr 12 18:04:00 hello Apr 12 18:04:29 morning :) Apr 12 18:06:15 Mika_, any news (good or bad) about your customer with the hd problem? Apr 12 18:07:28 No not realy still the same problem.. but he say fdisk -l give no out put en he check the disk in windows and there it was working Apr 12 18:07:39 And hi :) Apr 12 18:08:12 * caplink811_log is biam Apr 12 18:09:38 caplink811_log: he use this disk : http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/catalog/catalog.jsp;cscpsid=WHPBOBVY53HO3J0RMRCSHQNHKFSESI5P?activeTab=specifications&fredhopperpage=detail.jsp&productId=SPD5100CC_05_NL_CONSUMER&activeCategory=MONITORS_PC_PERIPHERALS_GR_NL_CONSUMER&fhquery=fh_secondid%3Dspd5100cc_05_nl_consumer%26fh_location%3D%2F%2Fconsumer%2Fnl_NL%2Fcategories%3Ccatalog_nl_consumer%2Fcategories%3Cmonitors_pc_peripherals_gr_nl_co Apr 12 18:10:26 a realy short link ;) Apr 12 18:11:22 Yes sorry .. but irc is no html Apr 12 18:13:07 np, but it wont work, with firefox or konqueror, but this is an issue of that page, they switched me to the german mainpage Apr 12 18:14:02 there is a list of working, and also non working devices somewhere at www.nslu2-linux.org, i'll go and search it, jam Apr 12 18:15:06 i was think al divices are working because it use the same protocol Apr 12 18:15:19 there it is, maybe that there are known problems with this device. -> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/database?method=reportRows&tbl=1 Apr 12 18:15:50 * caplink811_log thinking about killing miau Apr 12 18:16:07 Mika_, same interface, yes, but different chipsets Apr 12 18:16:35 You are not a member of the group nslu2-general :S Apr 12 18:17:18 maybe, that it is a good idea, that your friend try uNLUng-6.8-beta, because it's based on Linksys fw R63, which may support more chipsets Apr 12 18:18:43 which you can find at http://www.slug-firmware.net/u-dls.php Apr 12 18:19:18 we should stick to exposing just the front page there - http://www.slug-firmware.net Apr 12 18:19:26 it is from today :) Apr 12 18:19:29 nice news Apr 12 18:23:09 ByronT, k Apr 12 18:23:25 thanks (it can mess with the referrals) Apr 12 18:26:14 btw, it was mwester who was most responsible for pushing and getting 6.8 out the door - be sure to thank him the next time he pipes up Apr 12 18:49:21 caplink811_log: he brings his hd back to the store because the told him the hd was work with a nslu if not he can bring it back and get a other label Apr 12 19:27:06 ByronT: you around? Apr 12 19:33:45 I am Apr 12 19:34:39 sweet Apr 12 19:34:44 do you still have those cables? Apr 12 19:34:56 I do Apr 12 19:35:30 ah, you sent me the email that I haven't had time to reply to? Apr 12 19:35:35 :P Apr 12 19:35:39 yeah Apr 12 19:35:46 im the guy thats bothering you Apr 12 19:36:10 it's not a bother - see PM Apr 12 19:39:37 I may be having some issues with PM for some reason Apr 12 19:39:44 i've never used this IRC client before Apr 12 19:40:06 what client is that? Apr 12 19:40:11 colloquy Apr 12 19:40:24 OS X Apr 12 19:40:30 it's a nice client Apr 12 19:40:46 it seems nice, it's totally user error at this point Apr 12 19:40:47 :P Apr 12 19:40:54 I think you can hold click on my name and choose query Apr 12 19:43:18 hrm Apr 12 19:43:25 are you getting any of my PM replies? Apr 12 19:43:50 nope Apr 12 19:44:14 or you could just type in /query ByronT in the text area and look for a new window Apr 12 19:44:59 fonixz, are you a registred user on irc.freenode.org ? Apr 12 19:45:09 presumably not Apr 12 19:45:13 how do i go about doing that Apr 12 19:45:25 i have been using backwater IRC servers for awhile Apr 12 19:45:31 first time on freenode Apr 12 19:46:07 so, pm only works for registered users, imho, type /msg nickserv help and have a look on the topic register, or identify Apr 12 19:46:48 k Apr 12 19:47:56 sweet Apr 12 19:47:56 thanks Apr 12 20:21:19 caplink811 :) Apr 12 20:36:48 how can I stop guest from being allowed to login to SWATR Apr 12 20:36:51 *SWAT Apr 12 20:41:36 hm, my swat asks for an user and a password Apr 12 20:41:49 so does mine Apr 12 20:41:54 but it allows the guest to login Apr 12 20:41:56 without a password Apr 12 20:43:02 but only allows guest to change his password ;) Apr 12 20:43:53 it allows them to see what files are open also Apr 12 20:44:07 and the config Apr 12 20:45:04 no, at my installation i see the buttons home, and password Apr 12 20:45:20 http://ww2.jwjkp.com:901 Apr 12 20:46:02 catched by my firewall, sorry Apr 12 20:46:11 ? Apr 12 20:47:14 I tried changing the pass earlier, at least it does not allow that Apr 12 20:48:08 couldn't make an outbound connect to port 901, i meant... which samba version is on your slug Apr 12 20:48:10 ? Apr 12 20:48:29 version: 3.0.14a Apr 12 20:48:46 so mine is too Apr 12 20:48:50 I think I have another port forwarded also Apr 12 20:52:19 have you set something like security=user in your smb.conf (or in swat - global) ? Apr 12 20:52:41 where is the swat config Apr 12 20:52:43 or is there one Apr 12 20:57:35 at the swat page when you hit the button globals i meant, everything you adjust in swat goes straight forward in your smb,conf Apr 12 23:31:08 ~logs Apr 13 06:52:29 hello Apr 13 06:52:40 hey Apr 13 06:53:01 I just got my Network Storage thinger Apr 13 06:53:07 awesome Apr 13 06:53:12 kinda. . . bummed. Apr 13 06:53:17 why's that Apr 13 06:53:24 I'm getting lots of errors when I move large files from it Apr 13 06:53:28 and its slllloooowwww Apr 13 06:53:50 well, of course it will be limited to your network speed Apr 13 06:54:13 I have a linux box sitting right next to it that is running samba. Apr 13 06:54:23 I can move files to and from it much faster than this little thing. :-( Apr 13 06:54:50 Have I done something wrong? Apr 13 06:55:04 are you still using the linksys firmware Apr 13 06:55:20 yea . . . whatever it shipped with. Apr 13 06:55:32 might want to try and install unslung on it Apr 13 06:55:50 1) it will fix the error problem 2) will probably be faster 3) will allow it to do a lot more Apr 13 06:55:51 Will it still give me a nice GUI to configure everything? Apr 13 06:55:58 www.nslu2-linux.org Apr 13 06:56:20 this firmware keeps the same web control for it Apr 13 06:56:36 so nothing changes. Apr 13 06:56:43 oh, a lot changes Apr 13 06:57:08 it install a linux kernel on it and allows you to install stuff on it and everything Apr 13 06:57:13 o_O Apr 13 06:57:24 All I really want is samba Apr 13 06:57:34 and to have it not screw up with large files. Apr 13 06:57:36 I run Samba 3 on it with this firmware Apr 13 06:57:44 with SWAT control Apr 13 06:57:53 k Apr 13 06:58:00 So. . . I should get the Unslug Binary? Apr 13 06:58:13 you can read about it on that site and see if you are interested Apr 13 06:58:18 6.8 beta firmware? Apr 13 06:58:21 I'm sure you will be after you read it Apr 13 06:58:41 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/HomePage Apr 13 06:58:50 Thats how I found this place. . . Apr 13 06:58:52 from that site Apr 13 06:58:59 I'm just. . . wanting to know if it really works. Apr 13 06:59:20 it does Apr 13 06:59:30 I have it installed and I love it Apr 13 06:59:39 you don't get page errors Apr 13 06:59:44 no Apr 13 06:59:46 and you get decent transfer speed. Apr 13 06:59:55 yes Apr 13 07:00:25 can you hold my hand? Apr 13 07:00:29 * Wegg is scared Apr 13 07:00:31 haha Apr 13 07:00:36 scared of what? Apr 13 07:00:52 can I flash it back to the factory settings if I screw something up? Apr 13 07:01:41 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RevertToLinksysFirmware Apr 13 07:01:48 k Apr 13 07:01:50 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/InstallUnslungFirmware Apr 13 07:02:26 you wont be doing that Apr 13 07:02:44 once you get it installed you'll never thing about doing that Apr 13 07:02:51 and even if you do screw it up, it can be fixed Apr 13 07:02:56 I'd like to never think about it ever. Apr 13 07:02:57 *think Apr 13 07:03:11 I have a great linux box I have been using for years but. . . I want to cut down on my electric bill. Apr 13 07:03:16 if you screw up, you just go to this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash Apr 13 07:04:06 I was a complete noob when I installed it Apr 13 07:04:12 almost not linux knowledge Apr 13 07:04:15 and I had no problems Apr 13 07:04:22 huh. . . so I have to put an empty drive in port 2 to make this work? odd. Apr 13 07:04:23 *almost no Apr 13 07:04:30 no Apr 13 07:04:38 where did you read that Apr 13 07:04:48 For new users, the following guidelines can help: Apr 13 07:04:48 - if you have only a single drive that will be formatted by the NSLU2, Apr 13 07:04:48 use port 2. Apr 13 07:04:52 The readme Apr 13 07:05:10 I only have a drive in port 1 Apr 13 07:05:27 I have a printer in port 2 Apr 13 07:05:36 a printer!?! Apr 13 07:05:38 what the. . . Apr 13 07:05:47 I made my network link a print server also Apr 13 07:05:55 wow Apr 13 07:06:04 see Apr 13 07:06:10 that's just one cool thing you can do Apr 13 07:06:16 this firmware is really awesome Apr 13 07:06:23 k Apr 13 07:06:54 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddPrinter <--if you are interested Apr 13 07:07:17 took me about 15 minutes to set it up Apr 13 07:07:27 * Wegg 's head is spinning Apr 13 07:07:27 Wegg: I do not have any external storage on Linksys NSLU2 yet, I use it as Bluetooth 2.0 access point... OpenSlug 2.7-beta firmware Apr 13 07:07:42 :) Apr 13 07:07:50 So. . . I don't get what I have to do. . . Apr 13 07:08:20 this readme is talking about how I have to have formatted the disk before I install it. . . but I can only format it with NSLU2. Apr 13 07:08:25 * Wegg is so damn confused. Apr 13 07:08:40 hmm, been so long since I installed it, I've almost forgot Apr 13 07:08:41 :) Apr 13 07:09:29 Ok. . . Step 1. . . shut down the thing. Apr 13 07:09:34 * Wegg walks into the other room. Apr 13 07:10:37 * Nimmit found his readme file Apr 13 07:11:40 do step 2-a Apr 13 07:12:09 flash using unlug-6.x.bin as you normally would flash new firmware. . . Apr 13 07:12:12 this assumes a lot. . . Apr 13 07:12:13 he he Apr 13 07:13:03 really as long as you follow exactly what that doc says (never assume you know something without reading) you will be fine Apr 13 07:13:15 * Wegg nods Apr 13 07:14:01 is it safe to use this 6.8-beta.bin? Apr 13 07:14:32 * Wegg 's mouse is hovering over the "Start Upgrade" button. Apr 13 07:14:46 I have version 5 installed on mine Apr 13 07:15:05 why not the latest? Apr 13 07:15:20 haven't bothered upgrading Apr 13 07:15:24 no real need too imo Apr 13 07:15:32 think I would be safe with 6.8? Apr 13 07:16:09 I can gurentee 5.5 Apr 13 07:16:51 that's what I have Apr 13 07:16:56 hmm Apr 13 07:17:04 I'd say 6.8 is safe also Apr 13 07:17:17 aww screw it. . . Apr 13 07:17:31 "Start Upgrade". . . Apr 13 07:17:48 I just read what they changed Apr 13 07:17:53 It's safe Apr 13 07:18:32 its flashing red and green Apr 13 07:18:53 Do you experience slow file transfer with yours Nimmit? Apr 13 07:19:05 I was so friggen bummed when I did a few tests. Apr 13 07:19:19 you want me to do a transfer test Apr 13 07:19:25 I've never really payed attention Apr 13 07:19:40 I have lots of big files. Apr 13 07:20:00 I play all my music from it Apr 13 07:20:02 see what kind of speed you get on a large file. Apr 13 07:20:06 and they start playing once I hit play Apr 13 07:20:26 upload a 1 gig file and monitor your bandwidth Apr 13 07:20:44 I'm going to do a 25mb file Apr 13 07:21:15 k Apr 13 07:21:19 7-10 seconds Apr 13 07:21:45 got 6 seconds on second time Apr 13 07:21:49 which I actually counted Apr 13 07:21:59 25.218mb file Apr 13 07:22:14 * Wegg tries to find a file that big Apr 13 07:22:29 Ooo it beeped Apr 13 07:22:36 it's probably done then Apr 13 07:22:37 * Wegg runs into the other room to see if its done. Apr 13 07:23:24 nothing changed. . . Apr 13 07:23:47 okay, next step Apr 13 07:24:01 nothing noticable will have yet Apr 13 07:24:06 mmmk Apr 13 07:24:15 How do I shut it down? Apr 13 07:24:18 just unplug it? Apr 13 07:24:23 shut it down, attach disk Apr 13 07:24:28 power back up Apr 13 07:24:55 if your network link still mounts the drive (you are able to find it) and you are able to use the web interface Apr 13 07:25:00 then everything is good so far Apr 13 07:26:00 once you confirm everything is okay Apr 13 07:26:03 shut it down again Apr 13 07:26:11 unplug all disks Apr 13 07:26:25 then boot it up again Apr 13 07:28:26 tell me when you are ready Wegg Apr 13 07:28:35 Hi, does a NSLU2 unslung to 5.5 support NTFS? Apr 13 07:28:41 i cant remember Apr 13 07:28:44 yes Apr 13 07:29:14 cheers Apr 13 07:29:34 I have 5.5 and NTFS formatted drive in it right now Apr 13 07:29:40 so I can say that with 100% confidence Apr 13 07:29:41 :) Apr 13 07:30:17 I plugged the drive into port #2 and it all booted back up but. . . It can't see that drive any more. Apr 13 07:30:31 shut it down Apr 13 07:30:33 put it in port 1 Apr 13 07:30:42 readme said port 2. . . Apr 13 07:30:48 but. . . Apr 13 07:30:52 * Wegg does what he is told. Apr 13 07:33:54 what you really need to do is just go to the web control Apr 13 07:34:03 go to the status page Apr 13 07:34:08 make sure it says the disk is there Apr 13 07:34:16 make sure your shares are there also Apr 13 07:34:27 sucker takes a while to boot doesn't it. Apr 13 07:34:31 ya Apr 13 07:34:38 I thought this linux install would re-format my disk. . . Apr 13 07:34:42 I don't have anything on there I need. Apr 13 07:34:49 I think it does Apr 13 07:35:54 do what I said checking the web control once it is ready Apr 13 07:36:12 I can see the share Apr 13 07:36:19 its all good and in place. Apr 13 07:36:25 and. . . Apr 13 07:36:28 it says the disk is there in the status page Apr 13 07:36:30 correct? Apr 13 07:36:34 make absolutly sure Apr 13 07:36:40 it doesn't seem to be giving me the same errors as before when I move large files from the disk. Apr 13 07:36:41 wow Apr 13 07:36:53 yea. . . I'm moving a file from it right now. Apr 13 07:36:59 okay Apr 13 07:37:03 shut it down Apr 13 07:37:07 unplug the disk again Apr 13 07:37:20 do you just unplug it? Apr 13 07:37:25 no Apr 13 07:37:26 how do you shut yours down? Apr 13 07:37:34 by just pressing the button on it Apr 13 07:37:37 once Apr 13 07:37:39 yes Apr 13 07:37:41 just press the button. Apr 13 07:37:42 * Wegg tries it Apr 13 07:37:43 once the lights go out Apr 13 07:37:52 Oh hold it down till the light goes out. Apr 13 07:37:53 ? Apr 13 07:37:57 no Apr 13 07:38:01 they will take a few seconds Apr 13 07:38:08 * Wegg tries it Apr 13 07:38:17 Linksys's docs kind of suck. Apr 13 07:38:21 :) Apr 13 07:39:20 my button is kind of sticky Apr 13 07:39:24 doesn't pop back out. Apr 13 07:39:25 :-/ Apr 13 07:39:28 did the lights go out Apr 13 07:39:28 ? Apr 13 07:39:33 yes Apr 13 07:39:36 unplug the drive Apr 13 07:39:41 yup Apr 13 07:39:42 then turn it back on Apr 13 07:39:46 yup Apr 13 07:40:02 don't you love all this, shut it down, plug it in, shut it down, unplug it stuff Apr 13 07:40:13 just like windows Apr 13 07:40:16 haha Apr 13 07:40:17 ya Apr 13 07:40:25 lol, you dont have to it as much later Apr 13 07:40:27 thank god Apr 13 07:40:40 i know your a bit busy, but any ideas when unslung 6 is due out? i know its still in BETA stages atm Apr 13 07:40:52 I never turn mine off, only turn it on after power outage Apr 13 07:41:10 Ok its up. Apr 13 07:41:11 okay, Wegg Apr 13 07:41:25 http://ipofslug/Management/telnet.cgi Apr 13 07:41:29 go there Apr 13 07:41:32 Now I have to "unslinging it? Apr 13 07:41:40 enable telnet Apr 13 07:42:09 admin:admin for username and pass for web control Apr 13 07:42:33 once you enable that Apr 13 07:42:37 telnet to the ip of the slug Apr 13 07:42:48 username: root Apr 13 07:43:17 pass: uNSLUng Apr 13 07:43:22 k Apr 13 07:43:48 once you have got in telnet Apr 13 07:43:52 plug your disk into port 1 Apr 13 07:44:03 1!?!?! Apr 13 07:44:06 wait for it to be mounted Apr 13 07:44:08 * Wegg is so confused Apr 13 07:44:13 docs say 2. . . Apr 13 07:44:13 just do what I say Apr 13 07:44:18 k Apr 13 07:44:25 you can do two probably Apr 13 07:44:28 if you want Apr 13 07:44:37 * Wegg scratches his head. Apr 13 07:44:53 okay Apr 13 07:44:57 put it in port 2 Apr 13 07:45:19 :-) Apr 13 07:45:21 * Wegg feels better Apr 13 07:45:24 wait for it to be mounted and confirm by using the web control's status page Apr 13 07:46:23 don't test it by copying files to it like you did last time Apr 13 07:46:26 USB Port 2: Not Formatted Apr 13 07:46:29 so its in there. Apr 13 07:46:32 yes Apr 13 07:46:33 okay Apr 13 07:46:49 * Wegg holds his nads Apr 13 07:46:53 format it using the web control Apr 13 07:47:46 Administration/Advanced/Disk/Format Disk 2? Apr 13 07:48:02 yep Apr 13 07:48:13 Formatting Apr 13 07:48:53 Thats strange, ive just noticed i didnt have my unslung usb disk in my slug Apr 13 07:48:57 yet it booted.... Apr 13 07:49:12 it will Apr 13 07:49:25 just don't use ipkg or anything or you will brick it Apr 13 07:49:29 oh right, i thought it didnt Apr 13 07:49:30 ah Apr 13 07:49:37 thats useful to know Apr 13 07:49:38 cheers Apr 13 07:50:00 man is this a low level format or something? Apr 13 07:50:47 how big is your drive Apr 13 07:51:17 20 gig Apr 13 07:51:18 done Apr 13 07:51:21 okay Apr 13 07:51:23 Formatted EXT3 Apr 13 07:51:27 hehe Apr 13 07:51:31 I was about to have you check that Apr 13 07:51:51 /sbin/unsling disk2 Apr 13 07:51:56 type that in the telnet session Apr 13 07:52:44 then give it a new password. . . Apr 13 07:52:47 confirm it. . . Apr 13 07:52:59 yes Apr 13 07:53:00 then re-boot. . . Apr 13 07:53:08 Unsling complete. Apr 13 07:53:12 such funny terms. Apr 13 07:53:17 Slug. . . unsling Apr 13 07:53:18 hehe Apr 13 07:53:25 yes, reboot that puppy Apr 13 07:53:55 check it exactly how the readme says Apr 13 07:54:09 8) Confirm that your NSLU2 is unslung: Apr 13 07:54:10 You can verify that your NSLU2 is unslung by checking the NSLU2 web admin Apr 13 07:54:10 GUI - you are unslung if the text at the bottom reads something like: Apr 13 07:54:10 "uNSLUng status: Unslung to disk2, /dev/sda1" Apr 13 07:55:14 if that works, and enable telnet again the same way you did earlier Apr 13 07:55:34 and you can login to that with username root and the new password you made then you did everything correctly and you are now using the new firmware Apr 13 07:56:31 Unslung to disk2 Apr 13 07:56:32 yay! Apr 13 07:56:34 :) Apr 13 07:56:35 awesome Apr 13 07:56:38 check telnet access Apr 13 07:56:49 make sure you enable it first :) Apr 13 07:57:05 one thing you should remember: always boot the nslu2 with the disk in port 2 from now on Apr 13 07:57:17 k Apr 13 07:57:19 if I don't? Apr 13 07:57:35 like he said to me you can brick it if you do something stupid Apr 13 07:57:35 you could brick it if you try installing stuff or anything Apr 13 07:57:48 ahh! Apr 13 07:57:51 if you ever get a new disk you just repeat the unsling process Apr 13 07:57:59 for that disk Apr 13 07:58:14 ok Apr 13 07:58:17 is that all you have to do? Apr 13 07:58:24 So. . . now what? Apr 13 07:58:27 is there a way to transfer your current one onto a new one? Apr 13 07:58:43 well, as of right now Wegg your nslu2 serves no new purposes Apr 13 07:58:44 like imaging? or dd in linux? Apr 13 07:58:48 you can now install stuff Apr 13 07:59:05 in telnet ipkg update Apr 13 07:59:07 in telnet type : ipkg update Apr 13 07:59:10 :) Apr 13 07:59:12 ipkg install unslung-feeds Apr 13 07:59:20 update again Apr 13 07:59:23 and then upgrade Apr 13 07:59:33 i believe? Apr 13 07:59:45 like the readme says Apr 13 07:59:58 you should install a ssh server Apr 13 08:00:28 hmm dont think i did when i was told through doing mine Apr 13 08:00:35 Error: Command failed with return value1" wget --passive-ftp -q -P Apr 13 08:00:50 what did you type Apr 13 08:00:50 ? Apr 13 08:00:53 oh, have you manually set your DNS servers? Apr 13 08:00:55 external ones? Apr 13 08:01:06 ipkg update Apr 13 08:01:21 need DNS servers set Apr 13 08:01:26 otherwise it cant internet resolve Apr 13 08:01:57 I guess the only thing I think would be cool is to have BitchX on this thing. Apr 13 08:02:23 what else is fun/cool? Apr 13 08:02:25 oh, you would probably like something like a web server on it Apr 13 08:02:38 ww2.jwjkp.com <--that site is on my network link Apr 13 08:02:59 http://jeremyjefferson.com/2006/03/29/network-link-now-serves-as-print-server/ <--How I use my network link Apr 13 08:03:33 I have a few web servers. Apr 13 08:03:56 i'd putCUPS on mine but it dont ahve support for my printer yet Apr 13 08:04:03 wel the drivers Apr 13 08:04:10 what printer do you have Apr 13 08:04:17