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Apr 15 13:04:27 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
Apr 15 13:04:45 <Lunar_Lamp> how do i search for a file on the slug?
Apr 15 13:05:08 <Mika_> ipkg list |grep filename
Apr 15 13:05:09 <Lunar_Lamp> "find *S99*" doesnt find the file i know that contains that start
Apr 15 13:05:22 <Mika_> ok sorry you mean that way
Apr 15 13:06:26 <Lunar_Lamp> heh, yeah
Apr 15 13:06:51 <Lunar_Lamp> my *nix knowledge is so rusty i cant remember
Apr 15 13:07:30 <Mika_> find / -name filename
Apr 15 13:07:56 <Mika_> But S99 is in /opt/etc/init.d i think
Apr 15 13:08:17 <Lunar_Lamp> thanks!
Apr 15 13:08:21 <Lunar_Lamp> couldnt find te git
Apr 15 13:08:21 <Lunar_Lamp> lol
Apr 15 13:08:45 <Lunar_Lamp> its usually in /etc/init.d isn't it?
Apr 15 13:09:07 <Mika_> yes or /opt/etc/init.d
Apr 15 13:09:49 <Lunar_Lamp> also - i've never done much bash scripting, so i want to comment this one
Apr 15 13:09:55 <Lunar_Lamp> is ; used to comment lines?
Apr 15 13:10:01 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, no
Apr 15 13:10:43 <Lunar_Lamp> # is to comment in a bash script?
Apr 15 13:11:39 <Mika_> use # for comment lines out
Apr 15 13:12:33 <Lunar_Lamp> thanks
Apr 15 13:12:41 <Mika_> np
Apr 15 13:35:07 <RedT0mt0m> hi
Apr 15 13:35:30 <Lunar_Lamp> hi
Apr 15 13:36:12 <RedT0mt0m> a question : what's used to share data by default on Linksys Firmware ? (samba ?)
Apr 15 13:36:41 <RedT0mt0m> because samba package is 8Mb
Apr 15 13:42:52 <caplink811_log> the package is samba-3.0, because linksys originally used samba-2.0, but when you use unslung6.8, then there is samba-3.0 the default and in the flash image
Apr 15 13:45:32 <RedT0mt0m> caplink811_log: and it fit in the flash mem ? how much space is left ?
Apr 15 13:48:08 <caplink811_log> ?
Apr 15 13:52:34 <RedT0mt0m> hum, I installed OpenSlug and after the new flash I've 600k available
Apr 15 13:52:36 <RedT0mt0m> /dev/mtdblock4            6.4M      5.8M    608.0k  91% /
Apr 15 13:53:34 <caplink811_log> but usual you use an external dta storage for your applications
Apr 15 13:54:01 <caplink811_log> s/dta/data
Apr 15 13:54:59 <RedT0mt0m> yes, but Linksys original firmware contain samba in the flash ?
Apr 15 13:55:35 <caplink811_log> yes, and unslung firnware too, because it's based on linksys
Apr 15 13:56:07 <pahartik> RedT0mt0m: I have got some 1.1 MiB free on on-board flash storage after removing unnecessary modules and utilities related to FAT, NTFS and ReiserFS and installed Bluetooth modules and utilities...
Apr 15 13:56:52 <RedT0mt0m> pahartik: you've samba (8Mo) too ?
Apr 15 13:57:45 <RedT0mt0m> ok... 'ipkg list_installed' might be an issue ;-)
Apr 15 13:57:58 <caplink811_log> btw, the smbd executable is ~0.9mb (smb2.0) and ~2.4mb (smb3.0)
Apr 15 13:58:19 <pahartik> RedT0mt0m: no, but I do have used NFS from server... could easily install NFS server on NSLU2 too, if I had external storage device to share...
Apr 15 13:58:58 <pahartik> RedT0mt0m: ...but I have used...
Apr 15 13:59:20 <RedT0mt0m> thanks caplink811_log & pahartik !!
Apr 15 14:55:28 <janne5011> Hi I have a question someone got time...?
Apr 15 14:56:13 <caplink811_log> ~ask
Apr 15 14:56:14 <capbot> If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes.
Apr 15 14:57:02 <janne5011> ok I try to move a file from unslung folder to windows and have done chmod 777 but it dont works...I can not so much linux..
Apr 15 14:57:30 <janne5011> folder and file is chmod 777
Apr 15 15:00:27 <caplink811_log> maybe, that is the unix level, but what's about the permission at viewpoint of samba, there is a page in the webinterface where you could adjust those permissions
Apr 15 15:01:07 <janne5011> ok I try it
Apr 15 15:03:27 <janne5011> no its rw permissions on the folder added at  samba (everyone)
Apr 15 15:05:02 <caplink811_log> can you add a file to this folder (via win explorer)?
Apr 15 15:05:22 <caplink811_log> and if you can, can you delete this newly created file ?
Apr 15 15:06:32 <Lunar_Lamp> i am trying to follow the guide at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/DynDNSupdate - when it says to create the file S60dnsupd it says to include the dnsupd pid, but when i do a "ps | grep dnsupd" the pid changes each time - what am i doing incorrectly?
Apr 15 15:08:03 <janne5011> ni I cant copy to the folder
Apr 15 15:08:17 <janne5011> *no
Apr 15 15:09:33 <caplink811_log> Lunar_Lamp,  the guide mentioned `pidof` programname which returns the current pid
Apr 15 15:10:03 <Lunar_Lamp> so that's a phrase/command that gets the correct pid? 
Apr 15 15:10:13 <Lunar_Lamp> i just copy and paste the script exactly as presented with no edits?
Apr 15 15:13:25 <caplink811_log> Lunar_Lamp,  yes, but when you're unsure, you can try something like that: bla=`pidof smbd` ; echo $bla which should return the pid of the smbd process, as example
Apr 15 15:13:41 <Lunar_Lamp> ok
Apr 15 15:13:50 <janne5011> my problem fixed after a reboot =)
Apr 15 15:14:05 <Lunar_Lamp> as you may guess, i dont know much about *nix details, but im trying to learn what im doing at each step, heh
Apr 15 15:14:34 <janne5011> Lunar Lamp me to...the hard way =)
Apr 15 15:14:47 <janne5011> puh
Apr 15 15:17:07 <caplink811_log> janne5011,  there is no need to adjust folder and file permission on the shell level when you want use those files in windows shares, just do it in the webinterface
Apr 15 15:19:54 <janne5011> no true I realized it now...permission rules is confusing...
Apr 15 15:21:03 <Lunar_Lamp> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/DynDNSupdate <-- after following the first part of that, how do i check it is running?
Apr 15 15:23:45 <janne5011> type ps -ef 
Apr 15 15:25:20 <Lunar_Lamp> which process am i looking for though?
Apr 15 15:27:27 <janne5011> look for S60 or the applications name ?
Apr 15 15:28:02 <janne5011> or type ./s60 so it restarts
Apr 15 15:29:34 <janne5011> ./S60dnsupd   
Apr 15 15:29:39 <janne5011> thats how
Apr 15 15:29:49 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
Apr 15 15:29:59 <Lunar_Lamp> well, i run the prog, and it tells me "no new iP" which is nice
Apr 15 15:30:08 <Lunar_Lamp> but how do i check it's checking every 15mins?
Apr 15 15:30:10 <janne5011> should return a "#"
Apr 15 15:30:33 <Lunar_Lamp> [\u@\h \W]$ ./S65dnsupd
Apr 15 15:30:33 <Lunar_Lamp> No new IP
Apr 15 15:30:43 <Lunar_Lamp> thats the expected output of it i think
Apr 15 15:30:52 <Lunar_Lamp> (i renamed it S65 as i already have an S60)
Apr 15 15:31:25 <janne5011> think u can look in your acount at dynsdns when update occured?
Apr 15 15:31:42 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
Apr 15 15:32:02 <Lunar_Lamp> thing is though, when i log into dyndns, won't it take the ip from my browser, and thus not the ip of the nslu?
Apr 15 15:33:07 <caplink811_log> this line (cut from dyndnsup script) wget -q http://checkip.dyndns.org/index.html --output-document=/var/tmp/new.ip
Apr 15 15:33:25 <janne5011> I dont remember was long time since I used dyndsns
Apr 15 15:33:49 <caplink811_log> creates the file /var/tmp/ne3w.ip every 15 minutes, so the file creation time changes too
Apr 15 15:43:22 <Lunar_Lamp> ah ok
Apr 15 15:43:31 <Lunar_Lamp> how do i view file creation times caplink811_log?
Apr 15 16:02:23 <Lunar_Lamp> caplink811_log 
Apr 15 16:02:28 <Lunar_Lamp> there is no new.ip file there
Apr 15 16:02:32 <Lunar_Lamp> tehre is an old.ip
Apr 15 16:02:36 <Lunar_Lamp> but no new.ip
Apr 15 16:02:51 <Lunar_Lamp> would this occur if no new ip was made?
Apr 15 16:02:59 <Lunar_Lamp> (ie the ip had remained contant)
Apr 15 16:28:20 <caplink811_log> Lunar_Lamp,  1st ls -la (list files -long all)
Apr 15 16:28:59 <Lunar_Lamp> i assume in the correct dir?
Apr 15 16:29:20 <caplink811_log> Lunar_Lamp,  this file would create every time the script dyndns runs
Apr 15 16:29:42 <caplink811_log> yes, or ls -la /path/to/file
Apr 15 16:29:54 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, old.ip is about 70mins old - so, something isn't working correctly it would seem
Apr 15 16:31:31 <caplink811_log> if you enter wget -q http://checkip.dyndns.org/index.html --output-document=/var/tmp/new.ip at the command line, does this create the new.ip file ?
Apr 15 16:32:37 <Lunar_Lamp> yes
Apr 15 16:36:46 <Lunar_Lamp> <html><head><title>Current IP Check</title></head><body>Current IP Address: 87.1.....
Apr 15 16:36:50 <Lunar_Lamp> thats te contents of the fie
Apr 15 16:36:55 <Lunar_Lamp> so it appears to have worked
Apr 15 16:38:57 <pahartik> caplink811_log: "ls -la" does not show "file creation time", it shows "file modification time", at least for usual "ls" implementations...
Apr 15 16:39:25 <Lunar_Lamp> file modification is that i wanted...
Apr 15 17:00:40 <Reedy_Boy> Hi
Apr 15 17:00:48 <Reedy_Boy> Strange question for you guys if anyone is active
Apr 15 17:01:00 <Reedy_Boy> How come one of my slug's will stay in its stand, and its a snug fit
Apr 15 17:01:02 <Reedy_Boy> the other it isn't
Apr 15 17:07:44 <Reedy_Boy> any ideas/
Apr 15 17:10:34 <Lunar_Lamp> no idea at all
Apr 15 17:10:52 <Lunar_Lamp> you tried adding something like a piece of paper to make the fit more snug on the loose one?
Apr 15 17:11:01 <Reedy_Boy> i thought about that
Apr 15 17:11:09 <Reedy_Boy> that is the only real thing i think i can do
Apr 15 17:11:16 <Lunar_Lamp> it is strange though
Apr 15 17:11:25 <Lunar_Lamp> if it really annoys you, i'd contact linksys
Apr 15 17:11:44 <Reedy_Boy> would they change teh base for me?
Apr 15 17:11:52 <Lunar_Lamp> i dont know
Apr 15 17:11:56 <Lunar_Lamp> they *might*
Apr 15 17:12:03 <Lunar_Lamp> if it bothers you, you may as well ask and see
Apr 15 17:12:04 <Reedy_Boy> as they were bought 2nd hand from ebay
Apr 15 17:12:09 <Lunar_Lamp> worst they can say is no
Apr 15 17:12:15 <Reedy_Boy> it looks like it has just been pulled out badly
Apr 15 17:12:34 <Reedy_Boy> and cause the base to come out of shape
Apr 15 17:13:06 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, probably not then
Apr 15 17:13:43 <Reedy_Boy> well, i dont have to say that
Apr 15 17:13:44 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Apr 15 17:15:01 <Reedy_Boy> it could be just a case of it was misformed during manufacture
Apr 15 17:15:27 <Reedy_Boy> as there is no strain marks on it
Apr 15 17:16:22 <Reedy_Boy> and i know its the base a i have the problem with them the other way round
Apr 15 17:16:37 <Reedy_Boy> will try their live support after my tea
Apr 15 17:16:40 <Reedy_Boy> thanks for the idea
Apr 15 17:20:12 <Harvy> hi don't know if anybody is intrested of if this is the correct place but when trying to build VEV
Apr 15 17:21:46 <Harvy> EVERYTHING some files arent where they are expected for example libxml libxslt glib and asterix so far
Apr 15 17:22:26 <Harvy> I managed to find them and unbzip then gzip and it seems to work tho
Apr 15 19:01:15 <h8dc> first time here.  seems pretty quiet
Apr 15 19:08:30 <Lunar_Lamp> its not busy, h8dc, thats true - but if you need help people tend to be pretty useful
Apr 15 19:13:19 <h8dc> Thanks.  Didn't know how active this was.  Ddind't see anything so thought my firewall was the culprit. Seein' your reply makes all okay.  tnkx.
Apr 15 19:27:36 <Reedy_Boy> Lunar: I got told by the live tech support people
Apr 15 19:27:43 <Reedy_Boy> that i need to contact the people i bought it from
Apr 15 19:27:54 <Reedy_Boy> so ive asked the people on ebay i bought it from to see if i can do it
Apr 15 19:34:46 <Lunar_Lamp> could be worse :-)
Apr 15 19:34:52 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Apr 15 19:35:18 <Reedy_Boy> we'll have to see if the ebay person come back to me
Apr 15 20:43:50 <sluttge> anyone got a quick answer why my 400 GB disk connected to Disk 2, reports 0 GB free in the web interface..
Apr 15 20:46:05 <caplink811> because you use linksys fw r63 or unslung5.5
Apr 15 20:51:05 <sluttge> yes . but will it be a problem ??
Apr 15 20:54:49 <mwester> It's just an error in Linksys' web gui code in their R29 release (and therefore present in Unslung 5.5) -- Linksys fixed it in the R63 release.  It makes no problems.
Apr 15 21:08:06 <sluttge> :mwester ok
Apr 15 21:08:12 <sluttge> thx.
Apr 15 23:00:00 <purefusion> how long does it take to enable telnet?
Apr 15 23:00:16 <Lunar_Lamp> what do you mean?
Apr 15 23:00:26 <Lunar_Lamp> after clicking "enable" its pretty much instant
Apr 15 23:00:39 <purefusion> hmm, my web page is at 75% loading...
Apr 15 23:00:56 <Lunar_Lamp> have you clicked "enable"?
Apr 15 23:00:56 <purefusion> wait.. it says enabled ok, nvm
Apr 15 23:00:58 <Lunar_Lamp> if so - just try
Apr 15 23:01:01 <Lunar_Lamp> heh
Apr 15 23:01:02 <Lunar_Lamp> yeah
Apr 15 23:01:10 <Lunar_Lamp> it seems to keep loading afterwards
Apr 15 23:01:19 <Lunar_Lamp> dont know why - but i have had the same isses
Apr 15 23:01:24 <purefusion> so how do I actually telnet into this thing?
Apr 15 23:01:41 <Lunar_Lamp> you using windows?
Apr 15 23:01:44 <purefusion> yep
Apr 15 23:01:51 <Lunar_Lamp> ok, well you have 2 main options
Apr 15 23:02:11 <Lunar_Lamp> firstly you can go to start>run and type "command" and then telnet
Apr 15 23:02:19 <Lunar_Lamp> or you can use a free program called putty
Apr 15 23:02:24 <Lunar_Lamp> personally i prefer putty
Apr 15 23:02:31 <purefusion> ok, where do I get it?
Apr 15 23:02:48 <Lunar_Lamp> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
Apr 15 23:03:24 <Lunar_Lamp> that also has te advantage that if you set it up to accept ssh instead of telnet, you can use teh same client - and if you do that you dont need to enable telnet each time
Apr 15 23:03:46 <purefusion> that's cool, I'll prolly end up doing that
Apr 15 23:03:58 <purefusion> is it just putty.exe or puttytel.exe?
Apr 15 23:04:04 <Lunar_Lamp> i got putty.exe
Apr 15 23:04:16 <Lunar_Lamp> that allows telnet, ssh and a couple of others
Apr 15 23:04:33 <purefusion> ok, so now enter the ip of the slug?
Apr 15 23:04:40 <Lunar_Lamp> yeah
Apr 15 23:04:44 <Lunar_Lamp> the network ip
Apr 15 23:04:53 <Lunar_Lamp> something like 192.168.2.77
Apr 15 23:05:03 <Lunar_Lamp> i think thats defaut if you dont set it up for dhcp
Apr 15 23:05:13 <purefusion> mine's .1.77
Apr 15 23:05:26 <Lunar_Lamp> :-)
Apr 15 23:05:36 <purefusion> ok, so I hit okay to connect?
Apr 15 23:05:46 <h8dc> You're setting up to unsling it now?
Apr 15 23:05:50 <purefusion> yes
Apr 15 23:06:11 <h8dc> cool.  pretty straight forward.  just follow directions VERBATIM
Apr 15 23:06:33 <purefusion> yeah, the readme didn't have any info on telnetting, so
Apr 15 23:06:58 <purefusion> Also, I'm finding a lot of garbage characters in this readme.. kinda hard to navigate
Apr 15 23:07:17 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm
Apr 15 23:07:19 <h8dc> Yea, they say just telnet in..but not say how exactly.  They're heard about that :)
Apr 15 23:07:47 <Lunar_Lamp> ive found that a bit - im also pretty new to all this - and the guides are written asuming a certain familiarity with *nix in many places
Apr 15 23:07:51 <Lunar_Lamp> but hey, we all gotta learn somewhere
Apr 15 23:08:20 <purefusion> exactly
Apr 15 23:09:53 <purefusion> I'm looking to install the virtual hosting package as well as network my printer with it
Apr 15 23:10:33 <purefusion> So I'm plugging the main (always on) hard drive into port 1, is that alright?
Apr 15 23:12:30 <h8dc> depedns.  what version of the firmware (5.5 or 6.8)
Apr 15 23:12:35 <purefusion> 6.8
Apr 15 23:12:48 <h8dc> are you only going to use the one drive or many?
Apr 15 23:13:14 <purefusion> 1 disk permanently, 1 disk occasionally and 1 printer continually
Apr 15 23:13:32 <purefusion> the occasional disk will remain NTSF formatted
Apr 15 23:14:02 <h8dc> I believe they recommend to use port 2 for the main drive.  If you want to use NTS/FAT drives, hubs, flash disks, etc, they should go in port 1
Apr 15 23:14:57 <purefusion> but I also read that if I do that, and I plug a drive into port 1, I will be required to always have both disks connected
Apr 15 23:15:47 <h8dc> I believe only if they are ext3 formatted.  Been there, done that... I
Apr 15 23:16:25 <h8dc> unsling to port 2 and had an ext3 formatted also in port one (off of a hub).  I had to keep it there.
Apr 15 23:16:43 <purefusion> so I should be fine with an NTFS in port one?
Apr 15 23:18:41 <purefusion> I see it in the readme now.. must have missed that
Apr 15 23:18:59 <purefusion> now can I remove the NTFS at will, without rebooting the slug or doing anything bad to it?
Apr 15 23:19:03 <h8dc> I haven't tried an NTFS drive  in port one so I can't say....
Apr 15 23:19:30 <h8dc> Ibelieve it will be okay.  What I've esperienced is that if you unsling to an ext3
Apr 15 23:19:41 <purefusion> alright, I've placed the drive into port 2, now I'll unsling it :-D
Apr 15 23:20:05 <h8dc> drive on port 2, you can use ext3, NTS , flash drives, etc on port 1.  It's in the readme.
Apr 15 23:20:36 <h8dc> good luck (sorry  - can't gaurentee anything - just an average joe :)
Apr 15 23:20:43 <purefusion> haha, well thanks
Apr 15 23:21:11 <purefusion> here's a good question: how do I access files from the web (on a cputer not connected to the network)?
Apr 15 23:22:15 <h8dc> not connected to the network?
Apr 15 23:22:42 <purefusion> yeah, it's supposed to be a standard feature with the original firmware
Apr 15 23:24:21 <h8dc> the built in FTP server (?)
Apr 15 23:24:27 <purefusion> that could be it
Apr 15 23:25:41 <h8dc> probably.  YOu need to enable it with the Linksys web page.  If you're PC is behind a firewall you'll need to enable that to.
Apr 15 23:25:59 <purefusion> alright, I'll check it out
Apr 15 23:27:30 <purefusion> uh oh... Error: /share/flash/data (disk2, /dev/sda1) is not a mounted disk
Apr 15 23:28:54 <purefusion> it shows up though, and I can access files :-\
Apr 15 23:32:27 <h8dc> where did that error appear?  when you tried to unsling, or what?
Apr 15 23:32:55 <purefusion> yeah, it's currently a fat32 formatted disk, should I format it with the web interface?
Apr 15 23:33:39 <h8dc> can't unsliing to a fat/ntfs disk.  Must be ext3 *and* formatted by the nslu2
Apr 15 23:34:00 <purefusion> ok
Apr 15 23:34:19 <purefusion> I thought the unsling command was going to format it as well
Apr 16 00:16:35 <purefusion> If disk2 is supposed to remain plugged into the slug, what happens if the power goes out? Wouldn't the slug power up quicker than the hard disk? j/w
Apr 16 00:22:37 <purefusion> mwester, you around?
Apr 16 00:59:41 <mwester> purefusion: sure, I'm around...
Apr 16 01:02:09 <purefusion> how can I add a wish to the wishlist?
Apr 16 01:16:23 <mwester> Just edit the wishlist wiki page.  If you need to "play around" with the wiki editing functions, at the bottom left nav bar is the "Wiki Sandbox".  Otherwise, just browse to the page, and click on "edit" (on the bottom of the page)
Apr 16 01:16:56 <purefusion> ok, thanks
Apr 16 01:34:03 <purefusion> I submitted my addition but nothing was updated, and there was no confirmation
Apr 16 01:45:34 <mwester> What wish did you try to add?
Apr 16 02:03:16 <purefusion> Request for a VNC server :)
Apr 16 02:05:08 <mwester> I can't find such a request nor any trace of it - did you preview the request at all (usually if you can preview, you can save)
Apr 16 02:14:23 <purefusion> I previewed and it showed up. I hit save and the page just popped back up with the textarea with my edit still showing up
Apr 16 02:17:17 <mwester> Odd.  I just tried editing a page, and all seemed well.  Perhaps just a momentary glitch?
Apr 16 02:17:48 <purefusion> well, I just tried again and the same thing happened.. should I get some type of confirmation?
Apr 16 02:18:46 <purefusion> I added the summary and author
Apr 16 02:20:21 <purefusion> same issue in firefox and ie
Apr 16 02:20:40 <mwester> The only thing I've ever run into is that some pages are passworded, but it tells you that (and the wish list is NOT one of them!)
Apr 16 07:10:07 <chloubs_> hello
Apr 16 07:10:56 <Nimmit> hey
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