**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 20 09:59:56 2006 Apr 20 10:04:14 Hey Apr 20 12:04:11 upgraded services?? Apr 20 12:09:38 morning reedy Apr 20 12:12:01 afternoon drif Apr 20 12:12:24 there has been no one talking on here since at least 8am GMT Apr 20 12:13:08 hi all Apr 20 12:13:20 hi Apr 20 12:13:47 is the upgrade worth it? Apr 20 12:13:57 still using 5.5 atm Apr 20 12:15:03 theres quite a lot of new stuff Apr 20 12:15:52 For users of Unslung 5.5 (and earlier), the task of upgrading to Unslung 6.x is not to be taken lightly. The addition of the significant new features in the Linksys R63 firmware has required some fundamental changes in the way disks are handled, changes that may make an upgrade more of a challenge than hoped for. Apr 20 12:16:07 What do you use it for atm? Apr 20 13:06:32 It all goes quiet..... Apr 20 13:22:52 hmm connection dropped Apr 20 13:23:20 did anyone reply to my question ? Apr 20 13:23:22 yeah Apr 20 13:23:25 ill post again Apr 20 13:23:33 theres quite a lot of new stuff Apr 20 13:23:35 thx, sorry for not noticing :) Apr 20 13:23:44 its ok Apr 20 13:23:45 For users of Unslung 5.5 (and earlier), the task of upgrading to Unslung 6.x is not to be taken lightly. The addition of the significant new features in the Linksys R63 firmware has required some fundamental changes in the way disks are handled, changes that may make an upgrade more of a challenge than hoped for. Apr 20 13:23:53 What do you use it for atm? Apr 20 13:24:55 file storage, bittorrent, irssi & bitlbee, ssh Apr 20 13:25:01 that's pretty much it i think Apr 20 13:25:25 does the bit torrent work well? Apr 20 13:25:32 cause atm i got azureus on my win 2k3 server Apr 20 13:25:39 yeah kind of Apr 20 13:25:46 lol Apr 20 13:25:47 would love to see rtorrent working on it Apr 20 13:26:07 i've installed debian on a broken laptop of mine Apr 20 13:26:14 and use that for rtorrent Apr 20 13:26:18 lol Apr 20 13:26:19 (has no screen) Apr 20 13:26:23 ah Apr 20 13:26:33 it's been a while that i've torrented on the slug Apr 20 13:26:37 lol Apr 20 13:26:50 i think you really need some member of staff/development team Apr 20 13:27:05 there were quite a lot of improvements that are a reason to upgrade Apr 20 13:27:25 if rtorrent works, that's an improvement worth upgrading for me Apr 20 13:27:41 but it took a lot of time getting this to work the way i wanted it Apr 20 13:27:46 yeah Apr 20 13:27:50 i don't want to screw it up Apr 20 13:27:52 you can do a 'dirty upgrade' Apr 20 13:28:04 i did a clean one as there wasnt anything important Apr 20 13:28:58 and notice anything different? :p Apr 20 13:29:33 mine is just a play toy Apr 20 13:29:41 its supposedly faster for file transfers Apr 20 13:29:51 hrm Apr 20 13:30:07 how fast? Apr 20 13:30:19 i cant tell you Apr 20 13:30:41 i get around 4.5MB/s optimally Apr 20 13:30:50 4.0 on average, if nothing else is running on the box Apr 20 13:31:06 http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=367 Apr 20 13:31:06 i'm thinking perhaps i should go to openslug Apr 20 13:31:23 That is the release notes for R63 which 6.8 is based on Apr 20 13:32:39 i read that a few months ago Apr 20 13:33:15 lol Apr 20 13:33:57 i think it's not worth the upgrade yet Apr 20 13:34:08 if it ain't broken.. ;) Apr 20 13:37:18 yeah Apr 20 13:37:29 its not like your me and wasn't using it for anything Apr 20 13:38:47 bazz-, that's mine point of view, too. there are some useful features in the new firmware, but those depends on the need of specific users. if you're happy with the firmware, never touch it. Apr 20 13:39:03 hey caplink811_log Apr 20 13:39:09 morning Apr 20 13:39:12 btw Apr 20 13:39:13 how are u doing Apr 20 13:40:21 thats what you need Apr 20 13:40:27 someone who knows what they are on about Apr 20 13:40:31 afternoon caplink! Apr 20 13:40:47 ~ugt Apr 20 13:40:49 ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. Apr 20 13:40:50 it is+ Apr 20 13:41:10 oh Apr 20 13:41:19 but you haven't just entered Apr 20 13:41:19 lol Apr 20 13:41:20 :P Apr 20 13:41:52 lol Apr 20 13:42:09 sure, caplink811_log is a bouncer, running on a slug.. Apr 20 13:42:42 btw - it booted fine today Apr 20 13:42:49 so ill just keep an eye onit Apr 20 13:42:53 why don't you use irssi caplink811_log ;) Apr 20 13:43:12 imho irssi wont compile on the slug Apr 20 13:43:16 had an irssi uptime of 63 days Apr 20 13:43:27 i'm using it right now.. Apr 20 13:43:30 ah, sure, i remember.. :) Apr 20 13:43:50 CTCP VERSION reply from bazz-: irssi v0.8.10-rc5 - running on Linux armv5b Apr 20 13:44:07 but for that purpose, i need a screen session, too Apr 20 13:44:33 so i could use my favorate client and connect the bouncer Apr 20 13:45:02 i wonder why bitlbee package amongst others isn't being update any longer Apr 20 13:45:07 updateD Apr 20 13:45:09 but that is a matter of taste ;) Apr 20 13:45:18 whats thr bouncer do? jut like a bouncer for a nightclub? Apr 20 13:45:19 and why there is no irssi package Apr 20 13:45:38 depends on who is the package maintainer Apr 20 13:45:44 it maintains a connection to the irc server, keeps logs etc. Apr 20 13:45:50 your client connects to it Apr 20 13:46:01 right, so it does Apr 20 13:46:20 ah cool Apr 20 13:46:31 that running on your slug by any chance? Apr 20 13:46:33 but it works only with the irc protocol Apr 20 13:46:47 should be enough for most of us Apr 20 13:46:56 so bitlbee is a nice thing too Apr 20 13:47:02 goooood morning aaaaaaaaaaaall Apr 20 13:47:10 morning, teufelchen Apr 20 13:47:17 wow u 2 evildevil Apr 20 13:47:22 feeling fine i guess Apr 20 13:47:56 i was just looking at my web statistics.... Apr 20 13:48:15 bazz-, do you have the actual bitlbee version handy? Apr 20 13:48:36 yep Apr 20 13:48:41 compiled it today Apr 20 13:48:53 the package should be bitlbee-0.9.2 Apr 20 13:49:02 the ipk, i meant Apr 20 13:49:25 well, 1.0.2, i c Apr 20 13:49:40 want it? Apr 20 13:49:42 http://www.student-zw.fh-kl.de/~pasc0010/web/ Apr 20 13:50:14 no, thanks, i'll try to update the ipk in the next days Apr 20 13:51:38 cool Apr 20 13:51:51 would love to see rtorrent running too Apr 20 13:51:59 but doesn't work.. Apr 20 13:52:33 there's something weird with rtorrent though Apr 20 13:52:48 i run it on another machine, with the slug mounted via smb Apr 20 13:52:54 and still it crashes Apr 20 13:53:05 if i run it on the local drive of that machine, it works fine Apr 20 13:53:40 haven't tried the latest releases (if anything new) Apr 20 13:55:08 for the slug: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/143 Apr 20 13:55:21 seems to work with opendebian Apr 20 13:57:02 i'm going to try the nlatest version Apr 20 14:02:09 this is going to take cages Apr 20 14:03:30 ages Apr 20 14:05:08 top - 16:13:58 up 78 days, 22:10, 7 users, load average: 3.98, 3.05, 1.93 Apr 20 14:05:25 i should fatten my slug Apr 20 14:08:16 or kick some users ;-p Apr 20 14:08:49 i'm the only one :p Apr 20 14:08:53 it's the screen sessions Apr 20 14:09:03 + now compiling libtorrent Apr 20 14:13:40 hm Apr 20 14:13:46 i am using ctorrent Apr 20 14:14:13 works good so far but there should be some one who fixes the bandwith limitation bug :-/ Apr 20 14:16:46 +d Apr 20 14:21:41 +d ? Apr 20 14:24:25 bandwiDth Apr 20 14:25:02 true:) happy character searching ;) Apr 20 14:28:27 bandwith +d -> bandwidth ;-) Apr 20 14:30:06 i tought you meant "fixes" -> "fixed" Apr 20 14:52:38 wb drif Apr 20 14:55:10 thanks reedy Apr 20 14:55:50 does anyone else think a forum would be useful? Apr 20 14:56:52 have you checked out the yahoo group Apr 20 14:58:38 Reedy_Boy, yeah, a forum would be nice Apr 20 14:59:38 yeah Apr 20 14:59:41 i was wondering about it Apr 20 14:59:48 cause im purchasing some hosting for my dads work Apr 20 14:59:58 with 2 extra domains and more bandwith and space than they need Apr 20 15:00:02 with mysql databases..... Apr 20 15:00:05 nice :) Apr 20 15:00:17 and was wondering if it would be appreciated for you guys here? Apr 20 15:00:26 suppose i need to speak to mwester or someone? Apr 20 15:02:36 as there is the german one Apr 20 15:03:55 the nslu2-* mailinglists are quite usefull, but not everybody wants to sign up at yahoo Apr 20 15:04:01 yeah Apr 20 15:04:28 cos i could probably set up a phpBB forums on it for you guys Apr 20 15:05:44 and those nslu2-* mailinglists suffer from lack a structure where forum would be an ideal solution Apr 20 15:06:08 a=of Apr 20 15:06:41 do i need to propose it to someone such as mwester then? Apr 20 15:07:18 maybe rod whitby as the project leader would be a good idea Apr 20 15:07:50 is there an email for him? Apr 20 15:07:54 or does he grace on here? Apr 20 15:08:21 www.rwhitby.net Apr 20 15:08:54 ty Apr 20 15:09:46 he's in #nslu2-linux atm -> rwhitby Apr 20 15:10:14 ok thanks Apr 20 15:21:20 mailinglists suck at yahoo.. Apr 20 15:30:27 i've got CUPS issues :( Apr 20 15:31:09 i installed the cups and cups-docs pacakges Apr 20 15:31:16 plugged in the printer Apr 20 15:31:19 system? Apr 20 15:31:20 rebooted the slug Apr 20 15:32:07 going to the admin pages of the CUPS web interface and i can't do any maagement of the printer Apr 20 15:32:18 system - well im trying to access it from windows xp Apr 20 15:32:29 i.e. it should just be a case of adding a printer Apr 20 15:36:01 any ideas what ive forgotten to do? Apr 20 15:36:37 you forgot to tell us what OS is on your slug ;) Apr 20 15:36:42 sory Apr 20 15:36:43 lol Apr 20 15:36:54 V2.3R29-uNSLUng-5.5-beta Apr 20 15:37:05 any syslog output? Apr 20 15:37:21 how do i check? Apr 20 15:38:14 tail -f /var/log/syslog (or something like that.. i don't know about unslung) while you're plugging in the printer Apr 20 15:40:05 hmm, well it's not that directory Apr 20 15:40:05 hehe Apr 20 15:40:21 "find / -name syslog" didnt return anything Apr 20 15:40:35 dmesg ? Apr 20 15:41:14 dmesg | tail -n 30 Apr 20 15:41:38 EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Apr 20 15:41:38 Adding Swap: 56220k swap-space (priority -1) Apr 20 15:41:38 usb.c: registered new driver usblp Apr 20 15:41:38 printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04F9 pid 0x000D Apr 20 15:41:38 printer.c: v0.11: USB Printer Device Class driver Apr 20 15:41:42 thats a good start... Apr 20 15:41:47 so it knows it's there i think? Apr 20 15:42:09 i think so Apr 20 15:43:22 [\u@\h \W]$ lpc status Apr 20 15:43:22 hp990c: Apr 20 15:43:22 printer is on device 'usb' speed -1 Apr 20 15:43:22 queuing is enabled Apr 20 15:43:22 printing is enabled Apr 20 15:43:23 no entries Apr 20 15:43:25 daemon present Apr 20 15:43:31 now, my printer is not an HP990C Apr 20 15:43:38 but im sure i edited the config file to reflect that Apr 20 15:47:23 did you saved it also? Apr 20 15:48:10 caplink811_log, how is your flat cleaning going? Apr 20 15:48:32 im certain i did Apr 20 15:48:34 caplink811_log, and what about the endianess change? Apr 20 15:48:37 but just because you asked, im going to check Apr 20 15:52:38 EvilDevil: Seems he is not watching it Apr 20 15:53:32 maybe he isn't at his pc atm Reedy_Boy Apr 20 15:54:42 yeah Apr 20 15:54:50 i tried to sign up at sourceforge to email him Apr 20 15:54:59 but it wont let me activate my account on this pc Apr 20 15:56:23 just post it in nslu2-linux, i'm sure he'll read it (as long as you put his nickname in front of your lines) Apr 20 15:56:58 yeah Apr 20 16:00:39 oh, btw, i think my cups.conf is fine Apr 20 16:03:52 hmm.. no clue then. Apr 20 16:05:28 Description: Brother HL-1440 Apr 20 16:05:28 Location: Apr 20 16:05:28 Printer State: idle, accepting jobs. Apr 20 16:05:28 Device URI: usb:/dev/lp0 Apr 20 16:05:33 i note that the location is empty Apr 20 16:05:38 how do i tell it where to look? Apr 20 16:06:59 maybe you have to create the device node first. -> google Apr 20 16:07:59 thats mknod right? Apr 20 16:10:01 yep Apr 20 16:12:25 but where would i go to find the major and minor version numbers? Apr 20 16:14:41 google ;) Apr 20 16:15:28 Google is your friend Apr 20 16:16:03 unfortunately - i have no idea what im doing Apr 20 16:16:08 so i dont know enough togoogle :-( Apr 20 16:16:25 search for device node mknod usb printer Apr 20 16:16:34 minor major Apr 20 16:16:37 as far as im aware - http:192.168.2.4:631/printername should be the location Apr 20 16:16:46 yes, that sounds correct Apr 20 16:17:05 well i cant browse to there in the dialogue boxes Apr 20 16:17:23 probably becasuse i have to mknod Apr 20 18:45:13 hmm, des that mean that caplink811-log is arond? Apr 20 18:45:16 :-) Apr 20 19:22:44 morning, anyone a good idea to mount a directory over the internet ? i wil try to share my mp3`s with a friend .. for my own i use sshfs but i wil not give him write acces and acces in other directions.. in nfs you can give a ip and set only write but is it save ? Apr 20 19:23:52 s/directions/directory/ Apr 20 19:23:53 Mika_ meant: morning, anyone a good idea to mount a directory over the internet ? i wil try to share my mp3`s with a friend .. for my own i use sshfs but i wil not give him write acces and acces in other directory.. in nfs you can give a ip and set only write but is it save ? Apr 20 19:24:26 thx capbot your a good bot Apr 20 19:32:30 The nfs protocol has a bad name. Apr 20 19:33:47 So that is not a good option marceln Apr 20 19:33:48 Nfs over udp is designed for reliable fast network connections. Apr 20 19:34:15 I wouldn't use nfs if i hadn't the root password of both systems. Apr 20 19:34:52 because ? ( about the root passwords ) Apr 20 19:35:44 I wouldn't use nfs between to systems which i can absolutely trust. Apr 20 19:36:03 s/can/can't/ Apr 20 19:36:03 marceln meant: I wouldn't use nfs between to systems which i can't absolutely trust. Apr 20 19:37:12 Ok but sshfs has the same risks.. and it give him also ssh acces Apr 20 19:37:20 why you don't setup a ftp-server, and hardlink the files that you want to share in the users homedir? Apr 20 19:37:42 and restrict the user access only to his homedir Apr 20 19:37:50 Maybe you should look for chrooted sftp enviroment. Apr 20 19:38:05 I thought they are working on something like that. Apr 20 19:38:43 can i chroot a dir like /data for a user so hey can use ssh only in /data Apr 20 19:39:34 Yes caplink811_log maybe an ftp-server and make a ftp-mount Apr 20 19:39:35 http://www.tcfs.it/ but it's under development Apr 20 19:42:10 I like to mount his mp3`s on his disk and let him moount mine.. and when you can mount it is nice because you dont have to downl the file before he go play Apr 20 19:42:33 but i ask google howto :) Apr 20 19:43:53 The min-point at a ftp server is that i must run 1 more service on the slug Apr 20 20:26:16 [newbi - installing] when I connect nslu2 on my local net, then I dont need to set DNS, and Gateway - is that right? Apr 20 20:28:37 You have to set that in your nslu2 because if not you can not use the ipkg tool to download software from the internet Apr 20 20:31:52 oki and my gateway is my linksys wrt54g router on 192.168.1.1, but how do i know my DNS (there is no DNS, to find on the router) Apr 20 20:33:23 just use the routers ip as dns Apr 20 20:35:02 ok 192.168.1.1 Apr 20 20:40:18 yes clars Apr 20 20:45:06 clars, but you should set a dns entry in the webinterface, if you would use the ipkg facilities, just use the same that you use as dns in your (i assume) windows environment Apr 20 20:46:18 sorry I dont use windows environment - hehehe.... Apr 20 20:47:25 clars, whatever you use, you have a dns setup, or you aren't here ;) Apr 20 20:48:45 I got the your point caplink811_log - I just dont know why its not to find on the ls wrt54g_router webinterface Apr 20 20:49:12 which firmware you have on it ? Apr 20 20:49:37 V2.3R24 Apr 20 20:50:05 aahh do you mean my firmware on the wrt54g ? Apr 20 20:50:09 yep Apr 20 20:50:46 on dd-wrt it is setup-basic setup-static dns 1 to 3 Apr 20 20:50:57 WRT54G Apr 20 20:51:20 WRT54G v.3.1 FW: v4.01.1 Apr 20 20:51:40 ah, linksys fw, never used it ;) Apr 20 20:52:58 do i need to upgrade the V2.3R24 Apr 20 20:53:35 on the wrt54g i meant, this is what i use: Firmware: DD-WRT v23 (12/19/05) Apr 20 20:55:09 do you know that wrt54g got 5 different versions (and version 5, is not able to put linux OS on) Apr 20 20:55:41 ah, and now i saw your 1st question, basically, no you don't must setup dns and gateway, but if you would "upgrade" your firmware to unlsung-x.y then you need it, because the paketmanager loads installable packages from the repository at the inet Apr 20 20:56:25 wrt54g, yes i know, but afair, linksys went back to linux as os with the last revision Apr 20 21:04:20 Im a bit confused because - I running nslu2 on my localnetwork, and my gatewat (router) got 192.168.1.1 but when I look at the Gateway adress on the router interface its says 81.161.167.1 Apr 20 21:10:54 the external adress may be, not the internal Apr 20 21:11:55 = 81.161.167.1 Apr 20 21:14:41 * clars (n=clars@81.161.167.16) has joined #nslu2-general matchs somehow Apr 20 21:14:53 hehehe Apr 20 21:15:15 mwester: are you there? Apr 20 21:15:18 somewhere at cogentco.com i assume Apr 20 21:15:47 I have done serveral probes with pptp, but it doesn't work for me. Apr 20 21:16:39 It seems that it can't create a ppp0 interface. Apr 20 21:18:46 Hi, does anyone know if the default password has changed for openslug-3.6-beta? I've built this from source, and attempted to follow the upgrade guide (update/upgrade/reflash), only now my nslu2 doesn't boot fully and all the passwords I try are rejected by ssh! Any ideas pls? Apr 20 21:23:29 but you have tried opeNSLUng ? Apr 20 21:24:24 OpenSlug, Openslug, opeNLSUg, uNSLUng Apr 20 21:24:52 I suppose I might as well try upslugging the image and see if that gets me in Apr 20 21:25:23 I haven't tried opeNSLUng though, was that a typo? Apr 20 21:26:43 yes, it was, i meant opeNSLUg Apr 20 21:26:55 aye Apr 20 21:27:12 try to ask in #openslug Apr 20 21:27:44 k thanks, I'm upsluggin the image now .. if that doesn't work I'll see if they can tell me where the password is configured now! Apr 20 21:31:30 aha, well reflash using upslug reset the password to opeNSLUg. I guess it must have kept a random password on there from ages ago, can't remember what that was! Apr 20 21:31:57 caplink811_log, thanks for your help - its time to sleep Apr 21 05:23:20 can I ask a newbie question here or is there another forum more suited to that subject? Apr 21 05:27:52 just ask Apr 21 05:29:09 can I ask a question here? Apr 21 05:29:17 yes Apr 21 05:30:49 I ran the update to unslung 6.8. I just bought this thing to do simple ftp stuff. can I still use the built in FTP functions or do I need to load other software? It's very slow Apr 21 05:30:49 you already asked two, only one left! Apr 21 05:30:52 :) Apr 21 05:30:55 : ) Apr 21 05:31:54 http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=ftp&searchtype=package§ion= Apr 21 05:32:06 you can find a list there Apr 21 05:32:11 Here's the one I use: http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=proftpd&official=&format= Apr 21 05:33:03 will i still be able to access files from IE using this? Apr 21 05:36:06 I want to be able to send a web link to someone and have them be able to double click it and logon... Apr 21 05:38:41 ok. how bout this one. How do I get this to boot into unslung mode from and external drive? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 21 09:59:57 2006