**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 10 02:59:56 2006
Jun 10 06:46:42 <wes_> anyone had any experience with an adaptec usb enclosure always showing up as a flash drive?
Jun 10 06:47:20 <wes_> attempted formating always results in a "DiskX not a HDD, cannot format" error
Jun 10 13:25:06 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:~# swapon /dev/sda2
Jun 10 13:25:06 <l0c4lh0st> swapon: /dev/sda2: Device or resource busy
Jun 10 13:25:14 <l0c4lh0st> Anyone knows why my USB stick is busy?
Jun 10 13:25:22 <l0c4lh0st> And how can I make swapon work?
Jun 10 13:28:33 <EvilDevil> maybe it's already mounted as swap?
Jun 10 13:36:51 <l0c4lh0st> Yep, that was it
Jun 10 13:37:00 <l0c4lh0st> I didn't even give a command for that
Jun 10 13:50:32 <l0c4lh0st> When I boot my slug (debianslug) it automatically goes to ~
Jun 10 13:50:35 <l0c4lh0st> Can I change that to /?
Jun 10 15:06:16 <l0c4lh0st> Okay so I am installing Samba, do I need to add the username I use to login to this PC (Windows XP SP2) in the Samba configuration, or the name of this PC?
Jun 10 15:06:28 <l0c4lh0st> Also, my username contains spaces.... Is that a problem?
Jun 10 15:35:06 <bazz-> add guest
Jun 10 15:35:50 <bazz-> with password guest, or perhaps even without password
Jun 10 15:35:54 <bazz-> don't know for sure
Jun 10 15:36:04 <bazz-> afk..
Jun 10 15:43:39 <capbot> mika_ :)
Jun 10 15:44:39 <mika_> capbot :)
Jun 10 18:38:35 <l0c4lh0st> Does anyone know the name of the package for installing Apache on my slug? I'm using DebianSlug
Jun 10 18:43:21 <mika_> l0c4lh0st: ipkg list |grep apache
Jun 10 18:45:17 <l0c4lh0st> I already tried apache-php, php-apache, apache, apache2, etc.
Jun 10 18:45:39 <l0c4lh0st> Only thing it finds is perl-module-cgi-apache - 5.8.7-r15 - perl module cgi-apache
Jun 10 18:45:42 <l0c4lh0st> ? :/
Jun 10 18:49:18 <mika_> l0c4lh0st: did you do first ipkg update ?
Jun 10 18:49:24 <l0c4lh0st> yes
Jun 10 18:50:02 <mika_> and  : ipkg install unslung-feeds
Jun 10 18:50:14 <mika_> and after again ipkg update
Jun 10 18:51:00 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# ipkg install unslung-feeds
Jun 10 18:51:01 <l0c4lh0st> Nothing to be done
Jun 10 18:51:01 <l0c4lh0st> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
Jun 10 18:51:01 <l0c4lh0st> Collected errors:
Jun 10 18:51:01 <l0c4lh0st> Cannot find package unslung-feeds.
Jun 10 18:51:01 <l0c4lh0st> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
Jun 10 18:51:03 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/#
Jun 10 18:51:10 <l0c4lh0st> Oh I'm using DebianSlug, not Unslung
Jun 10 18:51:23 <mika_> ok now i understyand sorry
Jun 10 18:51:58 <mika_> Hmm DebianSlug i dont know..maybe caplink811-log can help you with that
Jun 10 18:56:15 <l0c4lh0st> Yeah maybe =)
Jun 10 18:57:27 <mika_> But i think he is in the sun drink a beer ... or is watch football
Jun 10 19:46:23 <bazz-> hi all
Jun 10 19:46:33 <naib> hiho]
Jun 10 19:46:47 <bazz-> try apt-cache search apache l0c4lh0st 
Jun 10 19:46:55 <bazz-> and get the packages you need
Jun 10 19:47:10 <naib> ?
Jun 10 19:47:36 <bazz-> you should start the server then by /etc/init.d/SXXapache start or SXXhttpd or sth like that
Jun 10 19:47:58 <naib> ??
Jun 10 19:48:09 <bazz-> naib: talking to l0c4lh0st ;)
Jun 10 19:48:15 <naib> oh soz
Jun 10 19:48:27 <bazz-> who isn't here as it seems :p
Jun 10 19:48:35 <naib> hence the ??
Jun 10 19:48:36 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# apt-cache
Jun 10 19:48:36 <l0c4lh0st> -sh: apt-cache: not found
Jun 10 19:48:46 <bazz-> you sure you're using debianslug?
Jun 10 19:48:50 <bazz-> or is it opendebianslug
Jun 10 19:48:52 <naib> apt-get only works with debianslug
Jun 10 19:49:31 <l0c4lh0st> I'm running DebianSlug
Jun 10 19:49:42 <bazz-> i finally got rtorrent compiled, took like 22 hours to compile libsigc++, libtorrent and rtorrent
Jun 10 19:49:56 <bazz-> well you should have apt-get then
Jun 10 19:50:03 <bazz-> and apt-cache
Jun 10 19:50:09 <l0c4lh0st> I flashed this firmware: debianslug-3.8-beta.bin
Jun 10 19:50:13 <l0c4lh0st> Well I don't have it, it seems
Jun 10 19:50:22 <l0c4lh0st> How do I install it?
Jun 10 19:50:22 <naib> try /sbin/apt-get
Jun 10 19:50:23 <bazz-> well that's opendebianslug afaik ;)
Jun 10 19:50:31 <l0c4lh0st> wtf
Jun 10 19:50:33 <naib> might not have /sbin in yr PATH
Jun 10 19:50:45 <naib> and the only way to install apt-get is with apt-get lol
Jun 10 19:50:46 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# /sbin/apt-get
Jun 10 19:50:46 <l0c4lh0st> -sh: /sbin/apt-get: not found
Jun 10 19:50:46 <bazz-> that's the big endian versian
Jun 10 19:50:55 <naib> locate apt-get
Jun 10 19:50:55 <bazz-> version
Jun 10 19:51:08 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# locate apt-get
Jun 10 19:51:08 <l0c4lh0st> locate: /var/locatedb: No such file or directory
Jun 10 19:51:23 <bazz-> the little endian version has got apt-get in it, i had it
Jun 10 19:51:29 <l0c4lh0st> So I need to flash another firmware?
Jun 10 19:51:34 <l0c4lh0st> I thought DebianSlug had everything
Jun 10 19:51:38 <bazz-> the little endian version uses official pkg feeds
Jun 10 19:51:50 <bazz-> but the one you use, the big endian version, uses ipkgs
Jun 10 19:51:51 <l0c4lh0st> The one I'm using doesn't?
Jun 10 19:51:56 <l0c4lh0st> yeah
Jun 10 19:51:59 <l0c4lh0st> Is that bad/
Jun 10 19:52:04 <bazz-> actually
Jun 10 19:52:12 <bazz-> i think there is no perfect firmware as of yet
Jun 10 19:52:32 <bazz-> unslung kind of sucks, some packages don't work fine, don't get updated etc.
Jun 10 19:52:51 <bazz-> openslug is good if you like to compile your own stuff, but takes ages
Jun 10 19:52:54 <l0c4lh0st> But... The firmware I'm running doesn't support apt-get, is it impossible then to install Apache, PHP and MySQL?
Jun 10 19:53:15 <bazz-> debianslug (LE) works great, but is really slow in the network itnerfaces
Jun 10 19:53:28 <bazz-> openslug is running very fast
Jun 10 19:53:37 <bazz-> no, you can do it through ipkg
Jun 10 19:53:45 <l0c4lh0st> :D How? :D
Jun 10 19:53:45 <bazz-> didn't try that before
Jun 10 19:53:53 <l0c4lh0st> I searched for ipkg's
Jun 10 19:53:54 <bazz-> try ipkg list | grep apache
Jun 10 19:53:56 <l0c4lh0st> couldn't find any :/
Jun 10 19:53:59 <l0c4lh0st> not working
Jun 10 19:54:00 <bazz-> ipkg update first
Jun 10 19:54:04 <l0c4lh0st> wait, I'll copy the output again
Jun 10 19:54:06 <bazz-> sure?
Jun 10 19:54:13 <l0c4lh0st> Sure.
Jun 10 19:54:17 <bazz-> use pastebin.com if it's a large output
Jun 10 19:54:43 <bazz-> (took 22 hourss to compile this rtorrent program.. butit works :p)
Jun 10 19:54:47 <bazz-> unsli compiled it once on 
Jun 10 19:54:59 <bazz-> unslung, but didn't work
Jun 10 19:55:09 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# ipkg update
Jun 10 19:55:10 <l0c4lh0st> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-lag/cross/3.8-beta/Packages.gz
Jun 10 19:55:10 <l0c4lh0st> Inflating http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-lag/cross/3.8-beta/Packages.gz
Jun 10 19:55:10 <l0c4lh0st> Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/ipkg/cross
Jun 10 19:55:10 <l0c4lh0st> Downloading http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-lag/native/3.8-beta/Packages.gz
Jun 10 19:55:10 <l0c4lh0st> Inflating http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-lag/native/3.8-beta/Packages.gz
Jun 10 19:55:12 <l0c4lh0st> Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/ipkg/native
Jun 10 19:55:14 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/# ipkg list | grep apache
Jun 10 19:55:17 <l0c4lh0st> perl-module-cgi-apache - 5.8.7-r15 - perl module cgi-apache
Jun 10 19:55:18 <l0c4lh0st> root@SUBZERO:/#
Jun 10 19:55:23 <l0c4lh0st> perl-module-cgi-apache
Jun 10 19:55:25 <bazz-> i see
Jun 10 19:55:28 <l0c4lh0st> That's not Apache itself, is it?
Jun 10 19:55:31 <bazz-> nope
Jun 10 19:55:51 <bazz-> i think 3.8 doesn't have those packages yet
Jun 10 19:56:21 <l0c4lh0st> 3.6 doesn't have them too :/
Jun 10 19:56:28 <bazz-> i'm using openslug 3.8 atm, i think both openslug and debianslug3.8 use the same pkg repository
Jun 10 19:56:29 <l0c4lh0st> How can this be?
Jun 10 19:56:32 <bazz-> root@Slug:~/tmp/nload-0.6.0# ipkg list | grep apache
Jun 10 19:56:34 <bazz-> perl-module-cgi-apache - 5.8.7-r15 - perl module cgi-apache
Jun 10 19:56:44 <l0c4lh0st> So you don't have Apache too?
Jun 10 19:56:56 <bazz-> no but you could always compile it yourself
Jun 10 19:57:11 <l0c4lh0st> I'd need a Linux machine for that or not?
Jun 10 19:57:11 <bazz-> which would probably take ages :)
Jun 10 19:57:18 <bazz-> no you can compile natively
Jun 10 19:57:31 <bazz-> ipkg install slugos-native or sth like that
Jun 10 19:57:43 <bazz-> and you'll have the complete set to compile your own stuff
Jun 10 19:58:15 <l0c4lh0st> Or I'd flash the Little Endian firmware?
Jun 10 19:58:25 <l0c4lh0st> You said you did run Apache
Jun 10 19:58:34 <bazz-> i compiled irssi, bitlbee, zlib, perl (because -lperl didn't work with the original perl libs from the pkg), libtorrent, libsigc++ and rtorrent :)
Jun 10 19:58:42 <l0c4lh0st> oh no, you said you got apt-get
Jun 10 19:59:01 <l0c4lh0st> Would you recommend me to switch to the LE?
Jun 10 19:59:03 <bazz-> yeah but it'd take again 2 hours to install that on your slug
Jun 10 19:59:25 <bazz-> if you don't mind the slowdown, yes, because all packages are being maintained on a regular basis
Jun 10 19:59:51 <bazz-> i'll give some numbers
Jun 10 20:00:04 <l0c4lh0st> «bazz-» yeah but it'd take again 2 hours to install that on your slug <-- You mean the Little Endian version, or Apache?
Jun 10 20:00:18 <l0c4lh0st> And... do I need to install, or just flash firmware?
Jun 10 20:00:20 <bazz-> 3000KB/s from the slug, 4200KB/s  to the slug with debianslug LE
Jun 10 20:00:36 <bazz-> just flash the firmware and put the distribution on the slug's harddrive
Jun 10 20:00:45 <l0c4lh0st> Yeah, thought I had to do that
Jun 10 20:00:47 <bazz-> it also takes like 500Megs or sth 
Jun 10 20:00:57 <l0c4lh0st> But it isn't that slow, 3000 KB/s
Jun 10 20:00:58 <bazz-> i'll benchmark now
Jun 10 20:01:01 <l0c4lh0st> What did you use to measure that?
Jun 10 20:01:30 <bazz-> nload -u K
Jun 10 20:01:56 <bazz-> download average: Avg: 5210.26 kByte/s
Jun 10 20:02:14 <l0c4lh0st> Yeah I think that's not bad...
Jun 10 20:02:24 <l0c4lh0st> You are running the Little Endian version?
Jun 10 20:02:32 <bazz-> no, this is openslug
Jun 10 20:02:53 <l0c4lh0st> I thought OpenSlug and DebianSlug were the same btw...
Jun 10 20:03:33 <bazz-> upload: Avg: 4861.76 kByte/s
Jun 10 20:03:41 <bazz-> just plain old samba
Jun 10 20:03:43 <naib> DebianSlug kinda sits ontop of openslug
Jun 10 20:04:01 <bazz-> well they seem to use the same packages
Jun 10 20:04:06 <bazz-> so i think they're about the same thing
Jun 10 20:04:16 <l0c4lh0st> So... If I have DebianSlug I actually have OpenSlug too.
Jun 10 20:04:26 <bazz-> could be :)
Jun 10 20:04:32 <l0c4lh0st> But you recommend me to go to DebianSlug Little Endian version?
Jun 10 20:04:51 <bazz-> yes, if you dont mind the following things:
Jun 10 20:04:54 <naib> You prolly have Openslug firmware BUT then if you installed DebianSlug you have DEbian for the package management
Jun 10 20:05:10 <naib> the only exception is if you flashed yr firmware with Debianslug
Jun 10 20:05:32 <bazz-> no beeping, no disk activity leds, no full network speed, no ipv6 :)
Jun 10 20:05:38 <bazz-> and probably some other stuff
Jun 10 20:05:53 <l0c4lh0st> No beeping???
Jun 10 20:06:05 <bazz-> ah and also no support for the realtime clock
Jun 10 20:06:10 <bazz-> how could i forget that one :)
Jun 10 20:06:32 <l0c4lh0st> The disk activity leds don't work in DebianSlug also, the beeping is only at boot, full network speed I've never achieved, IPv6 I don't need
Jun 10 20:06:41 <l0c4lh0st> and I believe there was some kind of fix for the clock
Jun 10 20:07:00 <bazz-> yeah if you want to sync your clock every hour :)
Jun 10 20:07:08 <bazz-> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ is a good guide
Jun 10 20:07:57 <bazz-> it just takes a long time before it gets installed, but afterwards you can install whatever package you like, without problems (normally)
Jun 10 20:08:34 <l0c4lh0st> Would I be able to use the "apt-get install apache-php-mysql" thingie
Jun 10 20:08:42 <bazz-> sure
Jun 10 20:08:47 <bazz-> and it'd probably work too :p
Jun 10 20:08:54 <l0c4lh0st> ? There was some commandline that would install all in one command
Jun 10 20:09:07 <bazz-> how do you mean
Jun 10 20:10:18 <bazz-> hmm i should compile hotwayd too
Jun 10 20:13:04 <bazz-> ls
Jun 10 20:13:14 <l0c4lh0st> oops, wrong window :P
Jun 10 20:13:21 <bazz-> yup :)
Jun 10 20:17:05 <bazz-> wouldn't recommend rtorrent and compiling :) awfully slow now
Jun 10 20:17:18 <bazz-> irssi is almost not responding
Jun 10 20:18:59 <bazz-> anyways
Jun 10 20:19:18 <bazz-> i'm going out, the weather is nice, this doesn't happen that often in belgium :p
Jun 10 20:19:30 <l0c4lh0st> lol Belgium
Jun 10 20:19:33 <bazz-> good luck on your installation
Jun 10 20:19:33 <l0c4lh0st> I'm in Holland :D
Jun 10 20:19:39 <bazz-> kaasie :p
Jun 10 20:19:49 <l0c4lh0st> So eh you recommend me to use this page: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ ?
Jun 10 20:19:53 <l0c4lh0st> Amai :P
Jun 10 20:19:53 <bazz-> yup
Jun 10 20:20:54 <bazz-> ttyl ;)
Jun 10 20:20:59 <l0c4lh0st> Oh that tells me I have to download something from slug-firmware.net
Jun 10 20:21:01 <l0c4lh0st> ah okay
Jun 10 20:21:05 <l0c4lh0st> I'll figure it out :)
Jun 10 20:21:09 <l0c4lh0st> Have fun etc ^^
Jun 10 20:21:27 <bazz-> thx, u2 ;)
Jun 10 20:22:00 <l0c4lh0st> omg
Jun 10 20:22:07 <l0c4lh0st> http://www.slug-firmware.net/ So I get Debian/NSLU2?
Jun 10 20:23:08 <l0c4lh0st> oh nvm I need to go here http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/image.html
Jun 10 20:23:42 <l0c4lh0st> Ah I did need the Debian/NSLU2
Jun 10 20:23:44 <l0c4lh0st> Oookoay
Jun 10 20:23:57 <l0c4lh0st> That should leave me entertained for another 12 hours or so :P
Jun 10 20:24:01 <l0c4lh0st> Thank you =)
Jun 10 20:50:39 <l0c4lh0st> downgrading to NSLU2 v2.3R63 now..
Jun 10 20:50:47 <l0c4lh0st> I really hope it's worth it :P
Jun 10 20:51:24 <l0c4lh0st> Hmm it says UPgrading, error?! :P
Jun 10 22:23:14 <Ochill8or> hello all
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 11 02:59:57 2006