**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 14 02:59:56 2006 Jun 14 04:12:46 for future debian kernels. do i apt-get install linux-image-2.6.blah or download the kernelimage.bin and flash the kernel to the rom? Jun 14 07:05:40 caplink811 :) Jun 14 07:52:24 hi there. Thanks to everyone for the linux-on-slug work so far. I've had a few attempts at bringing up debian on my nslu-2 (using di-installer and ssh console). All goes well until I get an unclean shutdown, whereupon next boot is a steady amber. I don't see any way out of things without a re-install - since I have no console access. Am I missing any recovery options? (Other than wiring in a serial console)? Jun 14 08:01:22 Or is there an existing setup which keeps a minimal root on flash (sufficient to boot with network+ssh) and allows other packages to install on the attached disk? Jun 14 08:01:35 sorry if these are FAQs... Jun 14 08:03:44 what you mean unclean shutdown? Jun 14 08:04:52 sometimes I've appeared to have a hanging ssh session or the nslu2 becomes unresponsive...the only way out appeared to be to pull the power. I'd expect this to force a fsck on the filesystem on next boot but I get a solid amber Jun 14 08:05:36 if you turn the slug on and wait for 5min and try ssh back in. if it starts the installer that means you just need to flash the sda1.bin firmware Jun 14 08:07:08 This will be after I've flashed the sda1.bin firmware. I've had a running debian system. But I don't have any console access in case of boot-time trouble. I can flash back to the di-installer and re-install, or linksys - but is there a way to repair the system without re-installing? Jun 14 08:08:26 ah. sorry. cant help you.. i am pretty new to slug Jun 14 08:09:12 actually i tried installing debianslug on a 128MB. but not enough space heheh. i am just have it flashed with the di with no hardrive... Jun 14 08:09:32 no problems. thanks for your answers. Quick question: do you know if an ext2/3 partition from a slug (ARM) should be mountable on an x86 box if plugged across? Jun 14 08:09:43 I tried it and had some oddities... Jun 14 08:10:01 yes Jun 14 08:10:07 its hdd. the arch is the ahrdware Jun 14 08:10:26 I wasn't sure if there were any endian issues in the on-disk structures. Jun 14 08:10:50 ah. i doubt it... debianslug is little endian. Jun 14 08:10:50 ok...not to find out why my automounter thought the ext2 partitions on my usb disk were fat :-/ Jun 14 08:10:59 *now Jun 14 08:11:00 hehehe Jun 14 08:11:21 got picture of the slug? Jun 14 08:11:34 not yet. It looks like most of the other :-) Jun 14 08:11:47 hehe. with the enclosure Jun 14 08:12:24 I'll post it up on the list when I've got a stable system. Of course, this is no ordinary slug - this is a turboslug :-) Jun 14 08:12:36 hhaha Jun 14 08:13:01 ok - thanks for your help Jun 14 08:13:15 k Jun 14 12:25:22 caplink811 :) Jun 14 16:03:32 hello... i have a problem with my nslu2... just bought it today and flashed it with the v23r63 fw from linksys... then i'va turned on dhcp and now it's dead :/ - after power on the ready/status led blinks for about 30mins now... what should i do ?? please help Jun 14 16:15:59 Boot into redboo Jun 14 16:16:11 or.. part the channel when someone wants to answer you Jun 14 16:28:22 hi Jun 14 16:28:38 any idea how i could format a usb stick under xp for use with unslung? Jun 14 16:29:31 Not? :D Jun 14 16:29:42 Just format it using the webinterface for unslung Jun 14 16:29:58 doesn't work (6.8) Jun 14 16:32:04 Try another USB stick? Or format it with DebianSlug Jun 14 16:32:41 usb stick gets noticed under linksys fw... so it has to work... Jun 14 16:32:55 debian? do i have to compile the kernel, etc. things myself? Jun 14 16:35:09 And if you format it in the Linksys firmware? Jun 14 16:35:52 ls fw has no option to format usb sticks Jun 14 16:36:00 it just uses them as fat Jun 14 16:36:15 How big is the USB flash device? Jun 14 16:36:21 512 Jun 14 16:36:29 should be big enough, shouldn't it? Jun 14 16:36:41 No reason for it not to format with the Unslung 6.8 firmware, then. Jun 14 16:36:50 Can't you boot a Knoppix live CD? Jun 14 16:37:10 mwester: how? webinterface doesn't do it Jun 14 16:37:34 how can i do it on the shell? i don't see the stick with df or fdisk -l Jun 14 16:37:41 Can you describe the problem you see? Jun 14 16:38:04 one moment... Jun 14 16:38:08 What messages do you get when you insert it (check dmesg)? Jun 14 16:38:31 hmmm, what should i get? the led goes on :) Jun 14 16:41:26 Well, if the LED goes on it means the kernel saw the device. Lets jump ahead -- what does the web interface say about the device? Jun 14 16:41:53 not formatted Jun 14 16:43:12 Ok, that's a good start. What happens when you format it? Jun 14 16:43:21 i press format disk2... then "formating..." and then just "not formatted" again ;/ Jun 14 16:44:26 Ok. Telnet or SSH in as root, and look around. Does "dmesg" give any clues about what went wrong? Jun 14 16:45:53 for what kind of error should i look? Jun 14 16:46:28 hmmm, it found a hub?! Jun 14 16:46:29 That's hard to say - it's more along the lines of anything that involves the flash device... Jun 14 16:46:40 What kind of flash device do you have? Jun 14 16:46:54 silver pearl microx 512mb stick Jun 14 16:46:59 just a simple stick Jun 14 16:47:07 Ok... Jun 14 16:47:21 What port? Jun 14 16:48:07 port 2 (disk2) Jun 14 16:49:01 what does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" have to say? Jun 14 16:49:50 # fdisk -l /dev/sda Jun 14 16:49:50 # Jun 14 16:49:54 nothing ;( Jun 14 16:52:01 dmesg | grep sda Jun 14 16:52:09 What does that print? Jun 14 16:52:41 # dmesg | grep sda Jun 14 16:52:41 Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jun 14 16:52:41 SCSI device sda: 1014784 512-byte hdwr sectors (520 MB) Jun 14 16:52:41 sda: Write Protect is off Jun 14 16:53:45 Hmmm... Can you partition and format it as a single NTFS filesystem on a windows box? Jun 14 16:54:26 jup, shouldn't be a problem i thing... one moment Jun 14 16:55:59 fuck... xp just allows fat/fat32 for usb sticks Jun 14 17:02:06 FAT will do fine as well... Jun 14 17:03:17 it is fat at the moment Jun 14 17:03:59 And it mounts, and you can write content to it on the XP system? Jun 14 17:04:40 yup Jun 14 17:04:53 hi everyone Jun 14 17:05:11 anyone know what the sshd_config equivalent is in dropbear-ssh? Jun 14 17:05:24 or even if there are docs for dropbear anywhere? Jun 14 17:05:43 Ok. So basically, even before you attempt to format, the slug won't mount the usb stick as an ordinary FAT filesystem then? Jun 14 17:07:23 ZAdmin: just google for dropbear -- you'll find the home page for it at http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Jun 14 17:08:21 the linksys fw does, but unslung just says unformatted, so yes... Jun 14 17:08:35 What about USB port 1 - same thing? Jun 14 17:08:46 mwester: I'm there. No obvious 'docs'. I'm downloading the tar now to see if they are in there. Jun 14 17:09:24 mwester: googling on 'dropbear ssh_config' gives a lot of info on openssh :) Jun 14 17:09:55 mwester: googling on 'dropbear config' gives some limited information on compilation configuration. Jun 14 17:10:16 other than that, any other magic word combos? Jun 14 17:10:26 Dropbear is a small-footprint ssh server - it's not known for configurability. Chances are it has no such config file. Jun 14 17:10:41 hm. Jun 14 17:10:48 Don't know, perhaps someone else on the channel knows if it has such a thing? Jun 14 17:13:16 the goal is to turn off password authentication, and use authorized_keys only. I have authorized_keys authentication working. Jun 14 17:14:41 mwester: no disk available ;( Jun 14 17:14:54 hld: if the slug can't mount the FAT filesystem on the USB stick, it certainly won't be able to partition and format it. FAT should work in either port (with Unslung 6.8). "Funky" things like hubs and mulilun devices only work in port 1. If it won't work in either port, then there's some other problem -- first verify that some other flash device or USB storage device is recognized -- if... Jun 14 17:14:56 ...so, we'll probably need the USB device numbers for that stick to see what drivers it needs (does it have any "funky" features -- encryption, finger-print reader, etc?) Jun 14 17:17:23 ZAdmin: there should be a man page in the tar file for dropbear - that should tell you if it can do it... Jun 14 17:17:31 ok, nothing obvious in the dropbear untar. nothing obvious in ./configure --help except maybe "--disable-shadow" for disabling shadow passwords...? Jun 14 17:20:07 Check dropbear.8 -- the man page. Looks to me like it might be as simple as adding the "-s" option to the command line when it starts up. Jun 14 17:20:29 ok, here it is. It's done between ./configure and make by editing options.h Jun 14 17:20:46 nope. no funky features.. that's why i've chosen it ^^ Jun 14 17:20:46 That's if you want to change it in the source code, and recompile it. Jun 14 17:22:11 it doesn't look like there's an option for a run-time config file. Maybe to maintain the small footprint? Jun 14 17:22:44 hld: then probably the best thing to do is to make sure that your slug can mount a disk at all (so that we know the problem is the stick, not the slug), and then post the last 30 or so lines of the dmesg output after inserting the stick to the mailing list.... Jun 14 17:22:50 or at least there's no setting for anything that looks like a runtime config file in either ./configure or options.h Jun 14 17:23:15 mwester: i'll try to partition it with xfdisk... how big should each partition be? Jun 14 17:23:46 ZAdmin: probably. Why use a config file (and have to have all the code to parse it) when you can just use a command-line option? Try the "-s" that's documented in the man page. Jun 14 17:25:22 hld: go ahead and try - part 1 is whatever is left over, 2 is 128MB and 3 is 128MB. I think you're wasting your time, though -- if the slug can't mount or recognize the device with one FAT partition, I don't think fdisking it will help -- but it's easy to try! Jun 14 17:26:03 mwester: oh. duh. lookitthat. Jun 14 17:26:18 Oh - part 1 and 2 are both of type "linux" and part 3 must be of type "linux swap" Jun 14 17:26:49 google "man dropbear", instead doing the whole compile thing. Duh. Jun 14 17:27:35 If that works, and the slug sees the device and can read the partition table, it will mount the partitions, check them for specific files, and then unmount them as soon as it finds the files missing... Jun 14 17:27:35 ok, thanks Jun 14 17:27:40 reboot ^^ Jun 14 17:28:29 lunchtime here, back later! Jun 14 17:28:55 ok. Jun 14 17:28:57 reboot Jun 14 17:29:17 later all. Thanks mwester. enjoy your lunch Jun 14 17:42:32 Hi, is anyone here? Jun 14 17:44:05 My NSLU2 has decided to stop recognising its hard drives, dmesg gives me "usb 3-1: device descriptor read/8, error -110" Jun 14 17:44:24 However the flash drive works fine Jun 14 17:44:49 And the hard drives work on my pc. Jun 14 17:45:22 I've tried running both openslug & opendebianslug, niether work Jun 14 17:45:33 Anyone know what could be wrong? Jun 14 17:51:57 so what happen when the system requires fsck during boot up? since we cant see whats goin on... Jun 14 17:55:13 ? Jun 14 17:55:33 you want me to fsck the drives? Jun 14 17:55:53 surely even if the needed fscking they'd at least get into /dev Jun 14 17:55:55 no. i am just wondering Jun 14 17:55:59 (they dont show up there) Jun 14 17:56:42 for example. when your system crash. the next time you boot up, fsck sometimes force you to manually run fsck. since we dont have display. how we know? Jun 14 18:45:18 deadcat_: good question. Actually, whenever something happens during bootup, how do you know? It's a tough problem to solve without a serial console! Jun 14 18:45:52 mwester: ya.. i have no clue either. Jun 14 18:47:05 :) if anyone has suggestions, the whole subject of boot-up diagnostic messages is one of the areas we'd like to improve with Unslung 6.9 or other future version... Jun 14 19:15:19 mika_ :) Jun 14 19:15:55 capbot: do you enjoy the game at this moment ? Jun 14 19:18:36 enjoy, not realy, but i have a look at it ;) Jun 14 19:21:01 Do you think german gona win ? Jun 14 19:22:31 i wont bet on this.. but i'm not a soccer fan at all (glad, that i could leave the stadium at 6p.m. yesterday) Jun 14 19:23:22 What did you do yesterday at the stadium then...i bet not watch football Jun 14 19:42:42 lets just go for a tie. (= 1 goal each hehe Jun 14 20:06:55 force manually to run fsck? never had that happen Jun 14 20:07:18 the boot scripts could use the beeper Jun 14 20:14:04 like ^G ^G ^G = "do something about x", ^G ^G ^G ^G = "DO SOMETHING ABOUT Y" Jun 14 20:14:07 :) Jun 14 20:18:15 wonder if it the nslu2 beeper could be programmed to play music :p Jun 14 20:18:21 like the pc-speaker, heh Jun 14 20:18:46 or speech, would be fun to hear it talk with a synthesizer Jun 14 20:19:19 " your slug is dying " Jun 14 20:19:22 hehe. that would be nice Jun 14 20:19:23 :) It can only do the funny beep. Jun 14 20:19:37 at least it can do combinations of those :) Jun 14 20:19:42 S O S Jun 14 20:19:43 heh Jun 14 20:19:44 hahah Jun 14 20:20:34 I thought of that too - I'm a ham radio operator, so Morse code is ok for me -- but I don't know how many others care to learn it just to boot the slug! :-D Jun 14 20:21:34 I was going to have it beep out the IP address after it boots, because people often cannot find the IP address the slug is using after reflashing it... Jun 14 20:21:40 no need to..it could handle like three or four problem indicators with the beep, and one could refer to docs when they hear say, four beeps in a row Jun 14 20:22:49 a cheap lcd display would be ok, if a cheap & easily working model was found Jun 14 20:22:58 something like 30 euros Jun 14 20:23:00 The LEDs are coded in such a way for openslug -- they change patterns as it progresses through the boot. It would be much work to add better LED and beeper support to the older Unslung kernel, but that is perhaps the only practical way that has been suggested to date. Jun 14 20:25:31 The advantage of the LCD is that it can work like a serial port - you don't have to "instrument" the boot process, you can see the text of the boot scroll by. That would be far better, of course. But then you have the problem of how to attach the LCD panel -- you would need to give up a USB port... :( Jun 14 20:26:55 yup.. Jun 14 20:29:20 having some cheap troubleshoot solution would be nice anyway, one that you wouldn't need to connect unless you had booting problems Jun 14 20:29:30 well. get a usb hub. i am tring to get my handspring visor to use that as LCD with the palmorb software. one of the guy here got it working. Jun 14 20:30:49 I thought of using my psion5mx as a serial console, but I don't have a rs232->usb adapter and they cost lots Jun 14 20:32:00 but having it work would be nice, since I could have the keyboard + display on the psion, and have the 266mhz slug do the work :) Jun 14 20:32:12 goallllllllll Jun 14 20:32:23 heh watching true ascii stream Jun 14 20:32:57 Yes, some cheap way to get output when you need it is exactly what we need to build. I think we need a way to capture the output from when linuxrc executes, buffer it if possible during the switchover to the external disk, then log the normal console output to a disk file. We also need a way to redirect all console output at will to a disk file or a flash device so that we can capture what... Jun 14 20:32:59 ...happens when, for example, someone plugs a disk into the device. Jun 14 20:34:04 yeah, it would be nice to get debug output on a flash stick for example.. Jun 14 20:34:18 though, depends a bit on which stage the boot fails :) Jun 14 20:34:55 http://www.ascii-wm.net :) Jun 14 20:36:22 Well, that's a problem too -- if the boot fails before the modules can load, we are limited to what's in the kernel for I/O... Jun 14 20:37:46 though, one could get a 'decent' linux system that would fit nicely in a small bag, since linux runs on psion5 and the slug can run X and ethernet heh, you could even have enough space for files on a flash stick, and maybe even attaching a small usb keyboard (though the psion has a very good one for the size..) Jun 14 20:38:19 though remote X might be a bit slow on serial speed :p Jun 14 20:38:29 but maybe vnc... :) Jun 14 20:40:49 by the way, has any of you added memory to the slug? Jun 14 20:41:38 what I'd like is a slug with 2 ethernet ports and 128MB of ram :p Jun 14 20:42:57 (= Jun 14 20:45:39 Buy yourself a router ;P Jun 14 20:45:40 or...maybe an infrared receiver on the slug, the psion can do IR, and then you could attach another computer via serial port too, heh Jun 14 20:45:50 nah, I have one, but it's a pc Jun 14 20:46:06 though it does all sorts of stuff besides routing :) Jun 14 20:46:49 Heh, for me the slug will do all sorts of stuff :) Jun 14 20:46:55 Once I find out how to run Apache on it... Jun 14 20:47:05 isn't apache a bit heavy for the slug? Jun 14 20:47:14 Gotta find out ;P Jun 14 20:48:11 http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=lighttpd&official=&format= Jun 14 20:48:18 I'd try that one first :p Jun 14 20:48:21 no Jun 14 20:48:23 I want Apache Jun 14 20:49:04 http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=apache&official=&format= omg! Jun 14 20:49:17 I didn't even know there was an ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org :/ Jun 14 20:49:19 THANKS!!! :) Jun 14 20:50:06 seeing as I'm running sshd and nfs, and have about 2MB of free ram, apache sounds overkill :p Jun 14 20:50:10 Oh... That's for uNSLUng only :( Jun 14 20:50:19 Uhhhh? Jun 14 20:50:24 2 MB free RAM lol Jun 14 20:50:26 damn Jun 14 20:50:31 How'd you do that? Jun 14 20:50:41 how much swap you guys use? Jun 14 20:50:44 I'm gonna use 256 MB of my USB stick as swap anyway Jun 14 20:50:52 it's a 1 GB USB stick Jun 14 20:50:58 k Jun 14 20:50:59 free reports 3megs of swap used Jun 14 20:51:11 i am thinking of getting a generic 2gig usb stick for $40.. Jun 14 20:51:12 eh? usb stick as swap is not good Jun 14 20:51:13 it has 32 MB RAM, or not? Jun 14 20:51:16 yes Jun 14 20:51:17 joga: i get this link fron caplink811_log about the 128mb mem : http://www.nslu2-info.de/showthread.php?t=3650 Jun 14 20:51:30 Oh yes, adding more RAM would be awesome Jun 14 20:51:44 Just gotta find some RAM modules here.... I believe I have some Jun 14 20:52:00 if i installed debianslug on the 2gig stick. can i back it up to my desktop by dd'ing it? Jun 14 20:52:05 too bad my german is quite rusty Jun 14 20:52:17 Same problem here too ;P Jun 14 20:52:23 What's dd'ing, deadcat_? Jun 14 20:52:32 deadcat_ should Jun 14 20:52:47 joga: k Jun 14 20:52:51 14(deadcat_14): DebianSlug is very small Jun 14 20:53:05 I had it on a 1 GB USB stick (of which 256 MB was swap) Jun 14 20:53:17 l0c4lh0st: dd if=/dev/sda of=debianslugbackup Jun 14 20:53:21 Had plenty of room left, I'm not really sure about it, but I think it used like 32 MB memory Jun 14 20:53:46 «deadcat_» l0c4lh0st: dd if=/dev/sda of=debianslugbackup <--- O_O Riiiight :P Jun 14 20:54:04 «l0c4lh0st» Had plenty of room left, I'm not really sure about it, but I think it used like 32 MB memory <--- 32 MB diskspace, I mean Jun 14 20:55:06 upnpd seems to hog mem.. Jun 14 21:02:11 though ah, I did have more mem than I thought, took a while to realize there was no "-/+ buffers/cache" line on the 'free' output :) Jun 14 21:02:26 about 20 megs is just cached Jun 14 21:03:47 are the upgrade instruction for openslug 2.5 -> 2.7 still valid for OpenSlug 2.7 --> 3.10? Jun 14 21:24:21 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Coffee-5.html Jun 14 21:35:41 hi. i'd liked to boot my nslu (currently running with a debian usb disk) via an nfsroot. does someone know howto do this or if this is possible at all? Jun 15 00:24:38 so by pressing the power button, its essentially running shutdown -h now, or reboot? and if i do shutdown -h now, does it power down the system? i've done shutdown -h now and pressing the putton on this slug current with debianslug but havent installed anything onto a hdd yet. but when i do try to power it down. it just d/c me from ssh session. the light still on after a while. Jun 15 00:55:37 anyone here know what this msg means when trying to start nfs server w/DebianSlug: nfssvc: No such device Jun 15 00:56:07 "lsmod" shows nfs module installed Jun 15 01:01:08 you have /proc/fs/nfsd? not sure if thats the problem Jun 15 01:01:41 yup, thanks, there as a directory, empty contents Jun 15 01:01:58 oh. Jun 15 01:04:38 THis is wowefully incomplete and some places are just wrong: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InstallNFS Jun 15 01:05:31 i dont know the diff between slug and a regular debian box. but on my box i just install the nfs-kernel-server and for client i just get nfs-common and thats it. Jun 15 01:06:04 true... no such thing as ipkg Jun 15 01:06:13 but you use debianslug though Jun 15 01:06:22 true... Jun 15 01:06:23 cant you just apt-get them? since its basically a debian box Jun 15 01:06:41 some stupid exec format error Jun 15 01:06:50 ? Jun 15 01:07:05 i havent got my slug running yet. so i dont know what you mean Jun 15 01:07:08 dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format error Jun 15 01:07:12 ah okay Jun 15 01:07:15 ah Jun 15 01:07:24 just not that familiar with ins/outs of debian yet Jun 15 01:07:31 ah Jun 15 01:07:45 broken package seems. you on stable or testing or unstable? Jun 15 01:08:04 good q, think it's stable - lemme check Jun 15 01:08:14 then it shouldnt break. Jun 15 01:08:44 debianslug 3.1 Jun 15 01:09:07 check /etc/debian_version, it SHOULD indicate something Jun 15 01:09:39 ah it says testing/unstable Jun 15 01:10:05 i think its more likely testing then. so i guess you will have to wait few weeks for someone to fix that problem. (= Jun 15 01:10:09 Linux Debslug 2.6.16 #1 PREEMPT Thu Jun 8 23:38:13 PDT 2006 armv5tel GNU/Linux Jun 15 01:10:28 ya. Jun 15 01:10:43 try apt-cache search nfs nslu, see if it has some nfs module or not Jun 15 01:10:52 else the nfs package is just broken Jun 15 01:11:54 no nfs module... even though there is one in the /lib/module path Jun 15 01:12:13 then its cool Jun 15 01:12:23 must be broken package. Jun 15 01:12:30 must be... Jun 15 01:12:40 it is here: /lib/modules/2.6.16/kernel/fs/nfs/nfs.ko Jun 15 01:12:50 lsmod shows it there too Jun 15 01:12:57 cool Jun 15 01:13:28 This is the page I used: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/SetupNFSServer Jun 15 01:14:11 only one I don't have is exportfs Jun 15 01:14:35 thse are if you cmopiled your own kernel. Jun 15 01:14:47 portmap is running right? Jun 15 01:14:50 yeah so it is possible that it's statically linked. Jun 15 01:15:18 Debslug:/lib# /etc/init.d/portmap start Jun 15 01:15:25 Not starting portmap daemon. Already running.. Jun 15 01:15:38 thanks for the suggestions tho Jun 15 01:15:45 hmm. Jun 15 01:16:21 it's like some of the modules are not there or something b/c it stops right after starting it, before even trying to mount via remotely Jun 15 01:16:51 exportfs shows the paths, etc. Jun 15 01:17:38 very strange. unfortunately i cant help right now (=. i have to wait for my friend to order the slug first. i am just playing with the one i bought in store right now. will have to return this. Jun 15 01:18:13 oh okay, no problems, I get more than what I pay :-) Jun 15 01:18:53 (= Jun 15 01:19:40 gonna try forum searching... surely I'm not the only one using nfs from within debianslug Jun 15 01:28:12 seems like someone F'ed up the kernel build. GRR... now have to learn how to do this with debian, but luckily there are makefiles available. Jun 15 01:38:38 oh my god. how did i missed you guys at the LWCE2005 last year? (= Jun 15 01:39:03 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/lwe_2005 see you guys theres this year? i will bring mine with me... probably (= Jun 15 01:41:59 no wonder the slug logo is so familiar to me (= **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 15 02:59:56 2006