**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 26 02:59:56 2006
Jun 26 07:41:14 <Reedy_Boy> Mika: Do you know if niab got anywhere looking at custom distro's?
Jun 26 09:03:13 <Reedy_Boy> Mika
Jun 26 09:03:22 <Reedy_Boy> When Slax Pro is released it will do the job
Jun 26 09:03:29 <Reedy_Boy> as the basic 192mb one has arping
Jun 26 09:03:35 <Reedy_Boy> just no GCC, which Pro will have
Jun 26 09:03:49 <Reedy_Boy> so that will work, and then get upslug put into it
Jun 26 09:03:50 <Reedy_Boy> :D
Jun 26 09:07:44 <Reedy_Boy> http://slax.org/modules
Jun 26 09:07:51 <Reedy_Boy> that has modules in it tho...
Jun 26 09:08:17 <joga> 192mb is huge
Jun 26 09:09:30 <Reedy_Boy> not really
Jun 26 09:09:36 <Reedy_Boy> if you have a fast connection
Jun 26 09:09:41 <Reedy_Boy> i downloaded it in 10 mins
Jun 26 09:14:20 <joga> yeah, but a distro that has upslug and hardware support can be fitted into a few megabytes
Jun 26 09:18:39 <Reedy_Boy> well, yeah
Jun 26 09:18:49 <Reedy_Boy> it just needs someone to do it
Jun 26 09:22:42 <Reedy_Boy> maybe slax stripped down, then arping and upslug on it
Jun 26 09:22:54 <joga> I'd start with some floppy distro, or buildroot
Jun 26 09:22:57 <Reedy_Boy> or arping left easier
Jun 26 09:24:00 <joga> if you can have a web server, an ftp server, an sshd server and heaps of little tools on a single floppy, having arping and upslug shouldn't require much more :)
Jun 26 09:24:36 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, cause if upslug is compiled, gcc isn't neede
Jun 26 09:24:56 <Reedy_Boy> i dont know about floppy, but less than 50mb seems possible
Jun 26 09:24:57 <joga> it can be precompiled, unless you want automagic updates too
Jun 26 09:25:10 <joga> how much does the upslug binary take space?
Jun 26 09:27:21 <Reedy_Boy> its half a meg extracted
Jun 26 09:27:33 <Reedy_Boy> (from its tar.gz)
Jun 26 09:27:43 <joga> hmm, is it statically linked?
Jun 26 09:27:50 * Reedy_Boy shrugs
Jun 26 09:27:56 <Reedy_Boy> no idea
Jun 26 09:28:03 <joga> if you're using linux, try 'file upslug2'
Jun 26 09:28:12 <Reedy_Boy> im not
Jun 26 09:28:15 <joga> k
Jun 26 09:28:44 <joga> well, anyway, if this distro will end up taking more than 10MB I will be very surprised :)
Jun 26 09:28:48 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jun 26 09:28:58 <Reedy_Boy> and even if it goes up to 50mb, its not a lot
Jun 26 09:29:14 <Reedy_Boy> and it wont need really updating unless upslug's updated
Jun 26 09:33:03 <Reedy_Boy> anywho
Jun 26 09:33:05 <Reedy_Boy> i need to go out
Jun 26 09:33:07 <Reedy_Boy> cya later
Jun 26 09:33:10 <joga> bye
Jun 26 14:28:04 <Reedy_Boy> Hey ByronT
Jun 26 16:32:30 <deadcat> for those of you using debian/nslu2, the guy from cyrius.com (martin) is gonna release the 2.6.17 kernel for debian.. (=
Jun 26 16:32:45 <deadcat> he said in about 10days (=
Jun 26 16:32:46 <deadcat> hehe
Jun 26 16:50:18 <Reedy_Boy> be nice to have a slug to install it on!
Jun 26 16:55:52 <Reedy_Boy> well a working one
Jun 26 17:22:02 * Reedy_Boy is away
Jun 26 18:10:43 <l0c4lh0st> lol.
Jun 26 18:39:06 <Naib> u sorted Reedy_Boy?
Jun 26 18:43:06 <treant01> I have a problem compiling upslug2 on a fedora 5 box.  I get a message that the compiler cannot create executables.  Anyone seen this issue before?  I'm at a loss as to how to resolve it.
Jun 26 18:44:38 <treant01> I am using the standard gcc (usr/bin/gcc)
Jun 26 18:44:58 <treant01> gcc 4.1.0-3
Jun 26 18:45:23 <EvilDevil> treant01, can you post the exact error message on www.pastebin.com ?
Jun 26 18:45:37 <treant01> sure
Jun 26 18:54:07 <treant01> ok, it's pasted
Jun 26 18:54:42 <Naib> weblink
Jun 26 18:55:47 <treant01> http://pastebin.com/731865
Jun 26 18:57:21 <EvilDevil> .oO( I wish pastebin would *sometimes* work as expected ;)  )
Jun 26 18:57:39 <treant01> lol, yeah, it was running a little slow for me
Jun 26 18:57:50 <treant01> well, maybe a lot slow
Jun 26 18:57:57 <Naib> lol
Jun 26 18:57:59 <EvilDevil> still waiting for the page to come up ;)
Jun 26 18:58:04 <treant01> ok
Jun 26 18:58:13 <Naib> would b quicker to paste it to a HTML and upload to yr ISP webspace
Jun 26 18:59:14 <EvilDevil> http://paste.css-standards.org/
Jun 26 19:01:13 <Reedy_Boy> Hey Naib
Jun 26 19:01:19 <Naib> hi
Jun 26 19:01:25 <Naib> sorted it?>
Jun 26 19:01:31 <Reedy_Boy> ive got a knoppix offshoot with arping and gcc
Jun 26 19:01:46 <Naib> sweet! you got upslug2 compiled?
Jun 26 19:01:51 <Reedy_Boy> PHLACK
Jun 26 19:01:53 <Reedy_Boy> i did
Jun 26 19:01:58 <Naib> lol
Jun 26 19:01:58 <Reedy_Boy> i turned it off earlier
Jun 26 19:02:06 <treant01> ok, http://paste.css-standards.org/1231
Jun 26 19:02:08 <Naib> ha, doesn't take too long
Jun 26 19:02:16 <Reedy_Boy> nope
Jun 26 19:02:21 <Reedy_Boy> and ive noted it all down
Jun 26 19:02:35 <Reedy_Boy> i had to pull the unzipped upslug from a samba share cause it was being a pain
Jun 26 19:02:45 <Reedy_Boy> BUT
Jun 26 19:02:55 <EvilDevil> treant01, are you sure you have a gcc installed?
Jun 26 19:03:03 <Reedy_Boy> i tried the arping, it wont taket he -f or whatever, it will take some of t he other commands
Jun 26 19:03:08 <EvilDevil> what does gcc --version say?
Jun 26 19:03:08 <treant01> yup, rpm -qi gcc shows that i do
Jun 26 19:03:13 <Reedy_Boy> i did get it to do some things
Jun 26 19:03:19 <treant01> 4 something... one sec
Jun 26 19:03:25 <Reedy_Boy> but it wouldnt find it on booting
Jun 26 19:03:36 <treant01> 4.1.0-3
Jun 26 19:03:36 <EvilDevil> okay, seems like it's installed
Jun 26 19:03:44 <treant01> it's in /usr/bin
Jun 26 19:04:04 <EvilDevil> mine too
Jun 26 19:04:22 <Reedy_Boy> Naib: ill get it booting
Jun 26 19:04:47 <Naib> Reedy_Boy, if arping is not accepting the -f option then find what option is needed to do: quit on first reply
Jun 26 19:04:51 <Reedy_Boy> i tried a mini phlak, but it was shit for browsing files
Jun 26 19:04:52 <Naib> Fluid jrb # arping
Jun 26 19:04:52 <Naib> Usage: arping [-fqbDUAV] [-c count] [-w timeout] [-I device] [-s source] destination
Jun 26 19:04:52 <Naib>   -f : quit on first reply
Jun 26 19:05:02 <Reedy_Boy> let me get it up and recompiled
Jun 26 19:05:04 <Naib> kk
Jun 26 19:05:06 <Reedy_Boy> and we'll take it from there?
Jun 26 19:05:09 <Naib> k
Jun 26 19:05:35 <Reedy_Boy> slax pro should work when its done
Jun 26 19:05:47 <treant01> reedy, you install arping from iputils package?
Jun 26 19:05:53 <Reedy_Boy> no
Jun 26 19:05:57 <treant01> I think that's the one you need for the -f option
Jun 26 19:05:58 <Reedy_Boy> it is in with the distro
Jun 26 19:06:10 <Reedy_Boy> i did read something about that
Jun 26 19:06:51 <Reedy_Boy> naib - i think if we are gonna do a upslug distro, teh slax base with upslug on it would work well
Jun 26 19:07:06 <EvilDevil> maybe you have to run     ./configure CC=gcc or something like that
Jun 26 19:07:51 <EvilDevil> or you're missing some other package (autoconf/automake/...)
Jun 26 19:08:21 <Naib> kk
Jun 26 19:09:04 <EvilDevil> treant01, ah.. i think you need to install g++-4.1.0-3 too
Jun 26 19:09:54 <Naib> yer upslug is C++ code
Jun 26 19:11:13 <treant01> ok, i'll do that!
Jun 26 19:11:57 <treant01> the autoconf and automake are installed so it's prob g++
Jun 26 19:12:17 <EvilDevil> g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 
Jun 26 19:12:28 <EvilDevil> brb... reboot
Jun 26 19:12:30 <treant01> k
Jun 26 19:15:48 <Reedy_Boy> ill be back in a few mins
Jun 26 19:17:29 <EvilDevil> back
Jun 26 19:23:21 <Reedy_Boy> back
Jun 26 19:23:26 <Reedy_Boy> naib, ill just compile uplsug
Jun 26 19:23:44 <Naib> k
Jun 26 19:23:46 <Reedy_Boy> ive got sorta an hour to play
Jun 26 19:23:49 <Naib> k
Jun 26 19:23:52 <Naib> plenty of time
Jun 26 19:23:58 <Naib> if I canre-build a kernel in 15min
Jun 26 19:24:14 <Harvy> native..?
Jun 26 19:24:14 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 19:24:24 <Naib> for gentoo.. yer
Jun 26 19:24:30 <Naib> never said NSLU2 ;)
Jun 26 19:24:39 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 19:25:25 <EvilDevil> treant01, is upslug2 compiling now?
Jun 26 19:25:47 <Reedy_Boy> running configure
Jun 26 19:26:01 <treant01> still working on getting g++.  Looks like the latest version for fedora is at 4.1.1
Jun 26 19:26:05 <Reedy_Boy> make
Jun 26 19:26:11 <treant01> so not up to 4.1.2 yet
Jun 26 19:26:16 <Harvy> trying to get a native working for openslug hopefully getting there
Jun 26 19:26:42 <Reedy_Boy> make done
Jun 26 19:27:00 <EvilDevil> treant01, just get one of them. i was just looking which version i have installed
Jun 26 19:27:00 <Reedy_Boy> ./upslug2 or upslug2 reports no NSLU2 in upgrade mode
Jun 26 19:27:26 <Reedy_Boy> [no NSLU2 Machines in Upgrade Mode]
Jun 26 19:27:28 <Reedy_Boy> naib
Jun 26 19:27:31 <Naib> yer
Jun 26 19:27:36 <Reedy_Boy> what am i doing now?
Jun 26 19:27:41 <Naib> right
Jun 26 19:27:44 <Reedy_Boy> sudo route add and a change of ip?
Jun 26 19:27:54 <treant01> ahh!  much better!  Compile is underway!
Jun 26 19:27:58 <treant01> Thanks Evil!
Jun 26 19:28:01 <EvilDevil> np
Jun 26 19:28:11 <Naib> route add 192.168.0.1 
Jun 26 19:28:25 <Naib> arping  -f 192.168.0.1; telnet 192.168.0.1 9000 
Jun 26 19:28:43 <Reedy_Boy> right, ill move the cable across and change ip
Jun 26 19:28:50 <Naib> can u arp?
Jun 26 19:28:55 <Reedy_Boy> arping works
Jun 26 19:28:56 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 19:28:59 <Naib> k
Jun 26 19:29:06 <Reedy_Boy> just it didnt like -f before
Jun 26 19:29:11 <Naib> u know once u re-set NSLU2 u gotta b ready with CTRL-C
Jun 26 19:29:16 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 19:29:28 <Reedy_Boy> but it didnt like something
Jun 26 19:30:15 <Reedy_Boy> route add 192.168.0.1 eth0
Jun 26 19:30:21 <Naib> yup
Jun 26 19:30:29 <Reedy_Boy> right
Jun 26 19:31:00 <Reedy_Boy> arping: invalid option -f
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Reedy_Boy> then it goes onto telnet action
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Naib> what is the output of "arping"
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Naib> need 2 c the options of yr arping
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Reedy_Boy> -0aAbdFpqrRv
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Reedy_Boy> capital F
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Reedy_Boy> ?
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Naib> what abt arping --help
Jun 26 19:32:49 <Reedy_Boy> needs to be capital F
Jun 26 19:32:50 <Reedy_Boy> its arping 192.168.0.1
Jun 26 19:32:51 <Naib> u sure 
Jun 26 19:33:14 <NSLU2-IRC> hey ive just unslunged and i can't log in via telnet with the password i specified during the unslinging process. can anyone help me out?
Jun 26 19:33:16 <Reedy_Boy> it says arping 192.168.0.1 and is keeping the cursor there
Jun 26 19:33:17 <Naib> the arping option MUST be such it exits after first reply
Jun 26 19:33:20 <Naib> kk
Jun 26 19:33:21 <Reedy_Boy> yes
Jun 26 19:33:26 <Reedy_Boy> i just pressed ctrl + c
Jun 26 19:33:35 <Reedy_Boy> and it said 31 transmitted, none answered
Jun 26 19:33:39 <Reedy_Boy> then tried to telnet
Jun 26 19:33:56 <Naib> yer well u needed to re-boot slug while in the ARPING section
Jun 26 19:34:03 <Reedy_Boy> k
Jun 26 19:34:45 <NSLU2-IRC> anyhelp reedy_boy or Naib?
Jun 26 19:35:10 <Reedy_Boy> little busy atm
Jun 26 19:35:14 <Reedy_Boy> try unSLUng
Jun 26 19:35:21 <Reedy_Boy> as it may have not changed it
Jun 26 19:35:30 <EvilDevil> uNSLUng
Jun 26 19:35:39 <Reedy_Boy> ty
Jun 26 19:35:41 <EvilDevil> capital N ;)
Jun 26 19:35:59 <NSLU2-IRC> tried that both with the disk unplugged and in and doesnt work
Jun 26 19:36:18 <Reedy_Boy> hmm
Jun 26 19:36:21 <Reedy_Boy> somethings gone wrong
Jun 26 19:36:31 <Reedy_Boy> easiest may be to reformat, and then re-unsling
Jun 26 19:37:02 <Reedy_Boy> naib
Jun 26 19:37:08 <NSLU2-IRC> yeah but i cant see anything that went wrong on my side, afraid it would jsut happen again
Jun 26 19:37:28 <Reedy_Boy> you are logging on with root and your password?
Jun 26 19:37:34 <Reedy_Boy> you know i said i had forced it into go into upgrade mode
Jun 26 19:37:41 <NSLU2-IRC> yeah
Jun 26 19:37:48 <Reedy_Boy> by the time thats happened, there is no arping reply
Jun 26 19:38:11 <Reedy_Boy> i think it may be my slug if its doing the same as windows and not finding ought...
Jun 26 19:38:30 <Naib> mmm
Jun 26 19:38:38 <Naib> dunno wot else to do
Jun 26 19:38:45 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 19:38:56 <Reedy_Boy> at least i know a linux distro that works easily!
Jun 26 19:38:58 <Naib> if you cant catch the NSLU2 in reboot mode, its bricked
Jun 26 19:39:06 <Reedy_Boy> hmm
Jun 26 19:39:23 <Reedy_Boy> but how could it be bricked it it would boot before i forced it into upgrade mode via telnet?
Jun 26 19:39:33 <Reedy_Boy> *if it
Jun 26 19:40:43 <Naib> but you did say u messed with the boot area before didn't you
Jun 26 19:40:53 <Naib> its either bricked OR you have dodgy cables
Jun 26 19:41:05 <Reedy_Boy> well, i issued
Jun 26 19:41:17 <NSLU2-IRC> to reformat would I just go to the upgrade in the web admin and use the linksys firmware? then do the process again?
Jun 26 19:41:21 <Reedy_Boy> i didnt mess with the boto area
Jun 26 19:41:42 <Reedy_Boy> i meant reformat your hard drive/memory stick
Jun 26 19:41:49 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 19:42:02 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, then telnet in again
Jun 26 19:42:02 <treant01> are you on a wireless connection?  If so, you may want to try wired reedy
Jun 26 19:42:14 <EvilDevil> NSLU2-IRC, if you're using Unslung, you have to use the Sercomm Upgrade utitility (win) or upslug2 (linux)
Jun 26 19:42:14 <Reedy_Boy> its wired
Jun 26 19:42:32 <Reedy_Boy> Evil: That is, if he reinstalls the flash
Jun 26 19:42:40 <Reedy_Boy> he may just want to reformat HD, which should work
Jun 26 19:42:55 <Reedy_Boy> Naib: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RemotelyEnterUpgradeMode
Jun 26 19:42:57 <Reedy_Boy> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock5 
Jun 26 19:42:58 <Reedy_Boy> reboot 
Jun 26 19:43:00 <Reedy_Boy> is what i used
Jun 26 19:43:16 <Reedy_Boy> to force it upgrade mode, just to check it was in right mode
Jun 26 19:43:25 <Reedy_Boy> ill find another cable!
Jun 26 19:43:31 <EvilDevil> Reedy_Boy, wouldn't it be easier to first try to reflash it and check if this works and then format the harddrive?
Jun 26 19:43:44 <Reedy_Boy> possibly
Jun 26 19:44:06 <Reedy_Boy> but reformatting the hard drive is all thats really needed
Jun 26 19:44:13 <Reedy_Boy> as long as he boots with no drive attached
Jun 26 19:45:12 <NSLU2-IRC> but shouldnt i still be able to access telent without any disk plugged in with the uNSLUng password?
Jun 26 19:45:27 <Reedy_Boy> well, supposedly
Jun 26 19:45:32 <Reedy_Boy> but i had to use my changed password
Jun 26 19:45:39 <Reedy_Boy> so evil, you are probably right
Jun 26 19:45:45 <Reedy_Boy> he will need to reflash
Jun 26 19:45:46 <Reedy_Boy> sorry!
Jun 26 19:46:05 <MeDiA> heyyyyyyyyyyyyy Mika_ handzzzzzzzzz
Jun 26 19:46:16 <NSLU2-IRC> so i need to reflash?
Jun 26 19:46:23 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 19:46:25 <Naib> Reedy_boy, you that method just sounds "dodgy"
Jun 26 19:46:25 <Naib> To enter upgrade mode remotely all I do is
Jun 26 19:46:25 <Naib> 1) route add 192.168.0.1 eth0
Jun 26 19:46:25 <Naib> 2) arping -f 192.168.0.1 ; telnet 9000
Jun 26 19:46:25 <Naib> and then in a ssh/telnet terminal to the slug just type "reboot" and it reboots it and this catch's the Redboot
Jun 26 19:46:27 <Mika_> Hey media 
Jun 26 19:46:38 <Reedy_Boy> noooo
Jun 26 19:46:54 <Reedy_Boy> thats to force it into the upgrade mode you would use for windows
Jun 26 19:47:04 <Reedy_Boy> same as pressing reset button on power up
Jun 26 19:47:21 <EvilDevil> NSLU2-IRC, Reedy_Boy or just reset the sysconf area
Jun 26 19:47:21 <NSLU2-IRC> do I flash back to orginal linksys firm or just flash again with unslung firm?
Jun 26 19:47:32 <Reedy_Boy> unslung would be fine
Jun 26 19:47:33 <Naib> Reedy_boy, also IF you forced it into ypgrade mode that way BUT you were NOT able to communicate with the NSLU2 then the NSLU2 is gonna get confusted and lock itself up IF you do not re-flash before turning it off
Jun 26 19:47:50 <Reedy_Boy> oh
Jun 26 19:48:11 <Reedy_Boy> fiddle sticks
Jun 26 19:48:26 <Reedy_Boy> but still
Jun 26 19:48:33 <Reedy_Boy> before i did that, it wouldnt work in windows would it
Jun 26 19:48:42 <EvilDevil> i'm not sure about unslung, i'm using openslug / debianslug only. and they store the password in the sysconf area somewhere on the flash (which does not get overwritten if you flash a new firmware)
Jun 26 19:48:44 <Reedy_Boy> so that cant have broken it
Jun 26 19:48:58 <Reedy_Boy> Evil Devil: it has when ive reflashed before
Jun 26 19:49:08 <Reedy_Boy> back to uNSLung
Jun 26 19:49:18 <Reedy_Boy> or whatever it is
Jun 26 19:50:07 <Reedy_Boy> and Naib: that just forces it to boot in upgrade mode until reflashed
Jun 26 19:50:11 <Reedy_Boy> so it should be accessible
Jun 26 19:50:26 <EvilDevil> Reedy_Boy, okay :) uNSLUng (the nslu needs to be capitalized)
Jun 26 19:50:35 <Reedy_Boy> ah, didnt see that!
Jun 26 19:50:38 <Reedy_Boy> notice
Jun 26 19:50:46 <Reedy_Boy> learn something new everyday :D
Jun 26 19:51:16 <Reedy_Boy> are you on windows NSLU2-IRC or linux?
Jun 26 19:52:06 <Reedy_Boy> wonder whats next with mine then....
Jun 26 19:52:07 <NSLU2-IRC> would it be ok to re-flash from the upgrade page in the nslu2 web admin?
Jun 26 19:52:18 <Reedy_Boy> no, you cannot, it does not work in unslung
Jun 26 19:52:23 <EvilDevil> NSLU2-IRC, this is disabled
Jun 26 19:52:30 <Reedy_Boy> it puts it in upgrade mode
Jun 26 19:52:34 <Reedy_Boy> but you can do that manually
Jun 26 19:52:39 <Reedy_Boy> are you on windows or linux?
Jun 26 19:52:41 <NSLU2-IRC> win
Jun 26 19:52:48 <Reedy_Boy> right
Jun 26 19:52:56 <Reedy_Boy> http://www.sercomm.com/web/download.nsf/cd9678c311095856482566a5000aac9e/7f17bf7344cfc12f482566aa00389845/$FILE/Upgrade_207_XP.exe
Jun 26 19:52:59 <Reedy_Boy> you need to download that
Jun 26 19:56:19 <NSLU2-IRC> its not finding my device on the network?
Jun 26 19:56:41 <NSLU2-IRC> lan settings are correct
Jun 26 19:57:00 <EvilDevil> NSLU2-IRC, you need to put the nslu2 in upgrade mode
Jun 26 19:57:21 <NSLU2-IRC> how do i do that?
Jun 26 19:57:59 <EvilDevil> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode
Jun 26 19:59:07 <burly30> thanks
Jun 26 20:00:14 <EvilDevil> np
Jun 26 20:00:20 <Reedy_Boy> thanks
Jun 26 20:00:26 <Reedy_Boy> i had to empty the dishwasher
Jun 26 20:00:58 <Reedy_Boy> anyone got any ideas about mine?
Jun 26 20:01:15 <burly30> should my hard drive be plugged in when i flash?
Jun 26 20:01:18 <Reedy_Boy> no
Jun 26 20:01:58 <burly30> ok re-flashing now, do i just continue with the same steps as before in the readme file?
Jun 26 20:02:01 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 20:02:12 <Reedy_Boy> reboot slug, wait for boot
Jun 26 20:02:14 <Reedy_Boy> attach drive
Jun 26 20:02:23 <Reedy_Boy> when loaded, format it in the web interface
Jun 26 20:02:26 <Reedy_Boy> enable telnet
Jun 26 20:02:28 <Reedy_Boy> login
Jun 26 20:02:34 <Reedy_Boy> use the unslinging script
Jun 26 20:02:43 <Reedy_Boy> im gonna return my mum her laptop
Jun 26 20:03:10 <burly30> do i have to re-format?
Jun 26 20:03:19 <Reedy_Boy> well, have you some data on it?
Jun 26 20:03:23 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 20:03:26 <Reedy_Boy> you dont have to, its just best to
Jun 26 20:03:34 <Reedy_Boy> well, i dont think you have to
Jun 26 20:03:38 <burly30> it will be a bit of a btoher to backup
Jun 26 20:03:51 <Reedy_Boy> well, unslinging should overwrite the files
Jun 26 20:04:01 <Reedy_Boy> so unless it doesnt work this time, you should be ok
Jun 26 20:07:05 <burly30> is it ok to reboot from the web interface?
Jun 26 20:08:14 <Reedy_Boy> well, if its done
Jun 26 20:08:15 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jun 26 20:09:37 <maep> hi, has anyone attempted to build the openafs module on debianslug?
Jun 26 20:14:11 <Reedy_Boy> pass for me
Jun 26 20:17:39 <maep> well anyway, i neet to specify the target system, but nslu2 or arm seems not to among the list of supported systems
Jun 26 20:18:14 <Reedy_Boy> caplinkg may know
Jun 26 20:18:18 <Reedy_Boy> [21:26] <maep> hi, has anyone attempted to build the openafs module on debianslug?
Jun 26 20:18:21 <Reedy_Boy> [21:34] <maep> well anyway, i neet to specify the target system, but nslu2 or arm seems not to among the list of supported systems
Jun 26 20:22:23 <burly30> tells me that my drive is already unslinged
Jun 26 20:22:36 <burly30> and i should go to the web interface and reformat :(
Jun 26 20:22:51 <Reedy_Boy> what size hard drive you got?
Jun 26 20:23:05 <burly30> 250GB
Jun 26 20:23:08 <Reedy_Boy> i think you may be able to look at the files on the hard drive
Jun 26 20:23:13 <Reedy_Boy> and delete all the admin files
Jun 26 20:23:16 <Reedy_Boy> which are configs
Jun 26 20:24:05 <burly30> do i do this with the drive directly connected to my PC?
Jun 26 20:24:17 <burly30> as my user/pass doesnt work?
Jun 26 20:24:26 <burly30> to get into admin
Jun 26 20:24:29 <Reedy_Boy> no
Jun 26 20:24:35 <Reedy_Boy> if its attached to the network
Jun 26 20:24:39 <Reedy_Boy> browse to it
Jun 26 20:24:43 <Reedy_Boy> \\ipaddress
Jun 26 20:24:50 <burly30> its passworded
Jun 26 20:24:50 <Reedy_Boy> you should see a folder/share called admin
Jun 26 20:24:53 <Reedy_Boy> oh...
Jun 26 20:24:54 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 20:25:00 <Reedy_Boy> did you boot with the drive attached?
Jun 26 20:25:03 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 20:25:06 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 20:25:15 <Reedy_Boy> that may be why it didnt let you unsling
Jun 26 20:25:18 <Reedy_Boy> turn it off
Jun 26 20:25:21 <Reedy_Boy> remove the drive
Jun 26 20:25:25 <Reedy_Boy> boot it up with no drive
Jun 26 20:25:30 <Reedy_Boy> then attach the drive
Jun 26 20:25:33 <burly30> no sorry i did that
Jun 26 20:25:38 <Reedy_Boy> oh
Jun 26 20:25:40 <Reedy_Boy> errm
Jun 26 20:25:47 <Reedy_Boy> there shouldnt be a samba password....
Jun 26 20:25:50 <burly30> i booted without a drive, then plugged it in once i had telnet
Jun 26 20:26:07 <Reedy_Boy> hmmmm
Jun 26 20:26:17 <Reedy_Boy> but that shouldnt give a telnet password
Jun 26 20:26:34 <Reedy_Boy> did you try logging on with admin and whatever pass you use for the web interface?
Jun 26 20:26:42 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 20:26:43 <burly30> works fine
Jun 26 20:26:55 <burly30> had to anyway to enable telnet
Jun 26 20:27:18 <burly30> but for some reason same user/pass doesnt work when accessing admin
Jun 26 20:27:33 <Reedy_Boy> for the web panel?
Jun 26 20:27:53 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, telnet wont work on boot till you script it too
Jun 26 20:28:22 <burly30> no on file sharing
Jun 26 20:28:43 <Reedy_Boy> go on the web interface
Jun 26 20:28:48 <burly30> ok
Jun 26 20:28:49 <Reedy_Boy> create a new user
Jun 26 20:28:53 <SayRuou> hello fellow Slugger
Jun 26 20:29:10 <Reedy_Boy> hello
Jun 26 20:29:32 <SayRuou> I was wondering if anyone can help me with a installing packages
Jun 26 20:29:52 <burly30> ok done
Jun 26 20:30:07 <Reedy_Boy> yeah, can try, are we talking about an unslung to disk slug?
Jun 26 20:30:17 <Reedy_Boy> burly - try that username
Jun 26 20:30:38 <burly30> still won't let me in admin
Jun 26 20:30:46 <Reedy_Boy> hmm
Jun 26 20:30:51 <burly30> weird thing is i can list the files in the web interface - shame i cant delete from here
Jun 26 20:30:54 <Reedy_Boy> if mine was bootable i could have a look
Jun 26 20:30:56 <Reedy_Boy> well,
Jun 26 20:31:02 <Reedy_Boy> you can attach it to your pc
Jun 26 20:31:15 <Reedy_Boy> http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Jun 26 20:31:25 <Reedy_Boy> that reads linux partitions in windows....
Jun 26 20:31:49 <Reedy_Boy> SayRuou: what OS and such? and whats the problem installing packages?
Jun 26 20:32:44 <SayRuou> I ran "ipkg install vdr-mediamvp"
Jun 26 20:33:04 <Reedy_Boy> right
Jun 26 20:33:07 <SayRuou> rebooted and how do I check if it's running.. ps didn't show it
Jun 26 20:33:16 <Reedy_Boy> right
Jun 26 20:33:20 <Reedy_Boy> did it download and configure it?
Jun 26 20:33:39 <SayRuou> I am running NLSU2 on unslung firmware - unsling to a PNY512 USB drive
Jun 26 20:33:56 <Reedy_Boy> ok
Jun 26 20:34:04 <Reedy_Boy> did it download the package?
Jun 26 20:34:56 <SayRuou> the installer seems to install - as I can see the file got installed in /opt/etc/init.d/S60mediamvp
Jun 26 20:35:10 <Reedy_Boy> right
Jun 26 20:35:16 <Naib> its installed then
Jun 26 20:35:21 <Reedy_Boy> i was first wondering id it was or not
Jun 26 20:35:30 <Reedy_Boy> it wont just run though
Jun 26 20:35:36 <Naib> if it doesn't spew out errors it is fine
Jun 26 20:35:39 <SayRuou> Naib:  yes, it is installed
Jun 26 20:35:56 <SayRuou> NAIB:  No errors, but I don't know how to configure the services
Jun 26 20:35:57 <Reedy_Boy> you may need a script to get it to run#
Jun 26 20:36:12 <burly30> Reedy_Boy, what files should I delete?
Jun 26 20:36:27 <Reedy_Boy> well, can you see the admin file?
Jun 26 20:36:27 <Naib> to run do this
Jun 26 20:36:30 <Reedy_Boy> with config and stuff
Jun 26 20:36:34 <SayRuou> RB:  I vi the S60mediamvp file and it doesn't show how ????
Jun 26 20:36:36 <Naib> /opt/etc/init.d/S60mediamvp start
Jun 26 20:36:49 <SayRuou> NAIB:  let me try, thanks
Jun 26 20:36:53 <Reedy_Boy> it wouldnt be straight on the file
Jun 26 20:36:58 <Naib> it would be
Jun 26 20:36:59 <Reedy_Boy> you would need a diversion script
Jun 26 20:37:02 <Reedy_Boy> noo
Jun 26 20:37:05 <Naib> it would be an init script
Jun 26 20:37:08 <Reedy_Boy> i meant to get it to start on the file
Jun 26 20:37:10 <Reedy_Boy> thats what i meant
Jun 26 20:38:15 <burly30> there is hdc1 and hdc2 which lists a lot of files?
Jun 26 20:38:23 <burly30> i think this is the admin
Jun 26 20:38:31 <Reedy_Boy> is there like config and var and such
Jun 26 20:38:33 <SayRuou> Naib - hmmmm, it didn't reply back with error, but the MVP is not connecting to it
Jun 26 20:38:35 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 20:38:42 <Reedy_Boy> that'd be it then
Jun 26 20:39:01 <Naib> what does 
Jun 26 20:39:01 <Naib> /opt/etc/init.d/S60mediamvp status
Jun 26 20:39:02 <Naib> say?
Jun 26 20:39:30 <burly30> config is on hdc2 and var is on hdc1?
Jun 26 20:39:35 <SayRuou> NAIB:  no reply...
Jun 26 20:39:38 <burly30> delete those files?
Jun 26 20:39:47 <SayRuou> is there a grep command to see the running process?
Jun 26 20:39:55 <Reedy_Boy> is there 3 'partitions' on hdc?
Jun 26 20:39:59 <Reedy_Boy> one having your files on it?
Jun 26 20:40:21 <Naib> are you ROOT
Jun 26 20:40:30 <burly30> do not see 3rd
Jun 26 20:40:39 <SayRuou> NAIB:  yes, I've SSH into the box
Jun 26 20:41:01 <Naib> as root!!!! you SSH into yr box AS ROOT :-O
Jun 26 20:41:08 <SayRuou> NAIB:  I've installed the packages as root, here is the capture from the installer
Jun 26 20:41:14 <SayRuou> Naib:  is that bad?
Jun 26 20:41:22 <Naib> errr YES!
Jun 26 20:41:36 <SayRuou> naib:  I've got to read some more and add new ssh users
Jun 26 20:41:38 <Naib> allowing root to SSH into yr box is asking to get hacked!!!
Jun 26 20:42:09 <Naib> to hacka box a hacker must guess the usernam & passwd
Jun 26 20:42:13 <SayRuou> naib:  for now, I've just want to run the mediamvp package
Jun 26 20:42:21 <burly30> Reedy_Boy: delete is greyed out
Jun 26 20:42:22 <Naib> allowing root to login it means at least the username is known
Jun 26 20:42:24 <Naib> kk
Jun 26 20:42:25 <SayRuou> naib:  I'll go back and lock it down
Jun 26 20:42:44 <Naib> meanwhile ill just get yr IP...
Jun 26 20:42:57 <ByronT> unless you disallow password logins and only allow key logins
Jun 26 20:43:10 <Naib> yer best way
Jun 26 20:43:22 <Naib> 1) re-compile SSHd with TCP-wrapper support
Jun 26 20:43:26 <Naib> dis-allows root-login
Jun 26 20:43:32 <SayRuou> byront/naib:  I am not an ssh expert, but for now, leave it as it
Jun 26 20:43:34 <Naib> dis-allow passwd login
Jun 26 20:43:53 <Naib> put a tcp-sctript to ban an IP after 6 failed attempts 
Jun 26 20:44:10 <Naib> change all but root and random users shell to /bin/false
Jun 26 20:44:24 <Naib> only use that other user to SSH into yr box then "su" to root
Jun 26 20:44:37 <Naib> SayRuou, do you have grep installed?>
Jun 26 20:44:43 <treant01> there is a config file, sshd.conf.  You can look for that.  You can change it to not allow root logons there
Jun 26 20:44:44 <SayRuou> naib - not yet
Jun 26 20:44:54 <Naib> ipkg install grep
Jun 26 20:45:21 <SayRuou> naib:  btw, is there a telnet program for this box?
Jun 26 20:45:40 <Naib> ??
Jun 26 20:45:52 <Naib> u in windows? u could use PUTTY if that is what you mean?
Jun 26 20:45:59 <Naib> ipkg list_installed | grep mvp
Jun 26 20:46:04 <Naib> once you have grep installed
Jun 26 20:46:14 <treant01> telnet is very unsecure, you probably don't want to use that
Jun 26 20:46:26 <SayRuou> # ipkg list_installed | grep mvp
Jun 26 20:46:27 <Naib> he isn't he is using SSH
Jun 26 20:46:32 <SayRuou> vdr-mediamvp - 0.1.4-3 - A media server for the Hauppauge MediaMVP
Jun 26 20:46:42 <Naib> right it is installed then
Jun 26 20:46:52 <Naib> there might be a config file in /opt/etc
Jun 26 20:46:56 <treant01> k, just saw him asking about it though
Jun 26 20:46:58 <Naib> that needs setting up 1st
Jun 26 20:47:31 <Reedy_Boy> Naib: What do you reckon i should do with my slug then?
Jun 26 20:48:14 <caplink811-log> SayRuou, telnet client, or telnet server?
Jun 26 20:48:14 <Naib> have no idea
Jun 26 20:48:14 <Naib> if it was me I would take it to work and jack onto the JTAG and sort it out that way
Jun 26 20:48:15 <SayRuou> caplink:  telnet client on the NSLU2 - 
Jun 26 20:48:31 <Naib> y u want a telnet client on the NSLU2?
Jun 26 20:48:35 <SayRuou> caplink:  I ssh into my NSLU2, and then I want  to telnet into my home devices - routers, termserver, etc.
Jun 26 20:48:42 <Reedy_Boy> right, so i need to find someone to JTAG it for me
Jun 26 20:48:58 <Reedy_Boy> doesnt it need some stuff soldering to it?
Jun 26 20:48:59 <SayRuou> naib - yes (btw sorry for all of the silly question)
Jun 26 20:49:03 <caplink811-log> SayRuou, imho, ipkg install inet-utils, or something like that, use the ipk finder at www.nslu2-linux.org (searching for files in packages)
Jun 26 20:49:34 <SayRuou> caplink - I did a search on "telnet" and nothing come up
Jun 26 20:50:12 <caplink811-log> yeah, there are some problems with the search engine
Jun 26 20:50:16 <SayRuou> caplink - my bad - Search for files in packages did turn up with something. Thanks
Jun 26 20:50:24 <caplink811-log> np
Jun 26 20:50:40 <Reedy_Boy> Naib: Woudl you be able to attempt it for me?
Jun 26 20:50:50 <Naib> rather not
Jun 26 20:50:59 <Reedy_Boy> ok
Jun 26 20:51:01 <Naib> you really need to ensure it is bricked
Jun 26 20:51:06 <caplink811-log> Reedy_Boy, basically questions, in which network segment are the pc's with which you have tried to reach the slug?
Jun 26 20:51:07 <Naib> you still can boot it cant you?
Jun 26 20:51:07 <Reedy_Boy> how?
Jun 26 20:51:21 <Reedy_Boy> its stuck going into upgrade mode due to that command
Jun 26 20:51:50 <Reedy_Boy> caplink - i've tried it via my router, a switch, and when on linux tonight, direct cabled
Jun 26 20:51:58 <Naib> well thats good! it is all ready there!
Jun 26 20:52:03 <Reedy_Boy> crossover and straight through
Jun 26 20:52:06 <Naib> can u telnet 9000 on the IP
Jun 26 20:52:08 <Reedy_Boy> no
Jun 26 20:52:22 <caplink811-log> it wont boot, because the sig in mdtblock5 was erased
Jun 26 20:52:26 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 20:52:29 <Reedy_Boy> its in the red green flashy light mode
Jun 26 20:53:03 <caplink811-log> Reedy_Boy, but that doesn't answered my question, the workstations, are they in 192.168.0.x segment?
Jun 26 20:53:10 <Reedy_Boy> yes
Jun 26 20:53:19 <Naib> I think his router is 192.168.0.1
Jun 26 20:53:23 <Reedy_Boy> i set the laptop to 192.168.0.2
Jun 26 20:53:25 <Reedy_Boy> it is
Jun 26 20:53:26 <Naib> which I think is causing some problems
Jun 26 20:53:31 <caplink811-log> which is a bad constellation
Jun 26 20:53:32 <Reedy_Boy> how can it be causing problems
Jun 26 20:53:43 <Reedy_Boy> when im connecting straight into the slug from the laptop or pc?????
Jun 26 20:54:04 <Reedy_Boy> so therefore no router involved
Jun 26 20:54:08 <Naib> IF the NSLU2 defaults to a static IP of 192.168.0.1 when in upgrade and something already exists at the IP then it cannot be accessed over hte router
Jun 26 20:54:23 <Naib> when connecting directly to the comp what is the IP of the computer
Jun 26 20:54:37 <Reedy_Boy> i set the laptop to .2 for using linux mode
Jun 26 20:54:56 <Reedy_Boy> its worked before as ive said in windows with this format (my pc straight into the slug)
Jun 26 20:55:19 <caplink811-log> Reedy_Boy, did you try an easy config, e.g. laptop is 192.168.0.2 mask 255.255.255.0 which is directly conneted with the slug via a crossover cable, setting the network interface to 100mbit/full duplex?
Jun 26 20:55:27 <Reedy_Boy> yup
Jun 26 20:55:38 <Reedy_Boy> thats exactly what i did
Jun 26 20:56:11 <caplink811-log> Reedy_Boy, and you are sure, that the cable is cross over?
Jun 26 20:56:25 <Reedy_Boy> i have tried a crossover which ive used before
Jun 26 20:56:33 <Reedy_Boy> and a straight through with a crossover plug
Jun 26 20:56:34 <caplink811-log> k
Jun 26 20:57:36 <Reedy_Boy> both in windows and after a lot of faffing, linux
Jun 26 20:58:15 <caplink811-log> ic, but on the other hand, i'm realy sure, that this slug isn't bricked
Jun 26 20:58:25 <Reedy_Boy> isn't?
Jun 26 20:58:45 <Reedy_Boy> well, before i put the command to erase mdtblock5, it was booting fine
Jun 26 20:58:47 <caplink811-log> as i said
Jun 26 20:58:58 <Reedy_Boy> so you still think it is savable?
Jun 26 20:59:03 <caplink811-log> yep
Jun 26 20:59:15 <Reedy_Boy> finally, some hope
Jun 26 20:59:19 <Naib> IF it is savable THEN there is something wrong in the wiring
Jun 26 20:59:21 <caplink811-log> ByronT, still around master of desaster ;)
Jun 26 20:59:29 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 20:59:38 <Naib> be it the RJ45 connection on the PC or the actual cables, (a loose connection)
Jun 26 20:59:41 <Reedy_Boy> must be his bases he sent me - corrupting my slugs!
Jun 26 20:59:42 <ByronT> I just create the problems....
Jun 26 20:59:45 <Reedy_Boy> ;p;
Jun 26 20:59:47 <Reedy_Boy> lol
Jun 26 20:59:53 <caplink811-log> ByronT, i know ;)
Jun 26 21:00:06 <Reedy_Boy> it was booting fine, but i couldnt get ugutil to connect to the slug for a reflash
Jun 26 21:00:08 <caplink811-log> ByronT, any ideas about Reedy_Boy's problem?
Jun 26 21:00:32 <Reedy_Boy> Naib: ive tried 4 or 5 different cable2, 2 different pc's
Jun 26 21:00:46 <Reedy_Boy> well, 2 different NIC's in my deskto
Jun 26 21:00:58 <ByronT> Reedy, I thought you serialized that slug?
Jun 26 21:01:04 <Reedy_Boy> nope
Jun 26 21:01:06 <Reedy_Boy> never attemped it
Jun 26 21:01:17 <Reedy_Boy> never thought about it
Jun 26 21:01:58 <Naib> right so Reedy_boy
Jun 26 21:02:13 <Naib> 1) you erased teh boot-block to force it to alway be in upgrade mode
Jun 26 21:02:14 <Reedy_Boy> yes
Jun 26 21:02:34 <burly30> Reedy_Boy: some help whenever you can, i enabled FTP access and can now get into the admin folder on the network (problem was with windows file sharing), what files should I delete to re-sling?
Jun 26 21:02:34 <Naib> 2) you have tried a number of CAT5 cables (cross-over & straight throug)
Jun 26 21:02:37 <Reedy_Boy> yes to make sure it was in upgrade mode as ugutil couldnt find it
Jun 26 21:02:46 <caplink811> ByronT, /msg will be ok ?
Jun 26 21:02:51 <Reedy_Boy> Burly30: everything?
Jun 26 21:02:51 <ByronT> sure
Jun 26 21:03:04 <Reedy_Boy> 1 only have 1 cross over, but i have a crossover plug
Jun 26 21:03:12 <texture_> hey
Jun 26 21:03:15 <Reedy_Boy> which ive tried on different ones
Jun 26 21:03:26 <Reedy_Boy> some self made cables
Jun 26 21:03:30 <Reedy_Boy> some shop bought
Jun 26 21:03:43 <burly30> Reedy_Boy: so i should delete the Admin folder from the top?
Jun 26 21:03:49 <Reedy_Boy> aye
Jun 26 21:04:39 <Reedy_Boy> well
Jun 26 21:04:47 <Reedy_Boy> maybe its contents, it may not let you delete the folder
Jun 26 21:06:11 <Reedy_Boy> It's all gone quiet....
Jun 26 21:06:31 <texture_> then i might be tempted to ask a question :)
Jun 26 21:06:39 <Reedy_Boy> go ahead
Jun 26 21:06:51 <Reedy_Boy> you'll end up joining a queue that never ends... :-/
Jun 26 21:07:07 <texture_> it's about a script on a wiki page. the rc.1 script on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveNotFormattedCondition
Jun 26 21:07:22 <burly30> Reedy_Boy: i aborted once i seen it was deleting some of my files??!!
Jun 26 21:07:34 <Reedy_Boy> eh
Jun 26 21:07:38 <burly30> i only selected the admin folder for deletion
Jun 26 21:07:50 <Reedy_Boy> and the other file has your files
Jun 26 21:07:52 <texture_> the script mounts data partitions and we're told that conf partitions are already mounted at that stage. the question is: how?
Jun 26 21:08:14 <Reedy_Boy> where abouts on that page?
Jun 26 21:08:38 <Reedy_Boy> oh
Jun 26 21:08:40 <Reedy_Boy> found it
Jun 26 21:08:44 <texture_> k
Jun 26 21:09:08 <Reedy_Boy> # First remount config partitions on the right spot
Jun 26 21:09:10 <texture_> i'm having trouble with a flash drive. i can unsling, boot from it a few times...
Jun 26 21:09:20 <texture_> yupp
Jun 26 21:09:29 <Reedy_Boy> and then it messes up?
Jun 26 21:09:33 <texture_> when is that suppose dto occur?
Jun 26 21:09:37 <texture_> yes.
Jun 26 21:10:04 <Reedy_Boy> mine did that, i just rebooted it and it was fine
Jun 26 21:10:11 <Reedy_Boy> i can see what you mean on the script
Jun 26 21:10:12 <texture_> in particular after i've used the flash drive along with another disk. a hard drive, whether it is in ntfs or ext3
Jun 26 21:10:15 <Reedy_Boy> the sda is mounted on data
Jun 26 21:10:37 <texture_> i changed it to sdb in my case
Jun 26 21:10:44 <Reedy_Boy> but nothing that is the config...
Jun 26 21:11:03 <texture_> and mounted it on /share/flash/data
Jun 26 21:11:49 <texture_> what do you mean, "but nothing that is the config"?
Jun 26 21:12:19 <Reedy_Boy> "/bin/mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /share/hdd/data"
Jun 26 21:13:11 <Reedy_Boy> there is similar for the data
Jun 26 21:13:56 <texture_> do you mean i should just add a line to mount my conf partition? or am i lost?
Jun 26 21:14:29 <Reedy_Boy> it would seem thats wat is mising
Jun 26 21:15:11 <texture_> yes... i had kind of supposed that it meant that the conf partition mount was done at a prior stage of the boot sequence. 
Jun 26 21:15:39 <Reedy_Boy> yeah
Jun 26 21:15:41 <texture_> if i can handle it via this script, it's perfect
Jun 26 21:15:54 <Reedy_Boy> well
Jun 26 21:15:59 <Reedy_Boy> i think that is what is meaning/wanting
Jun 26 21:16:04 <SayRuou> I am back
Jun 26 21:16:09 <texture_> hey SayRuou
Jun 26 21:16:34 <SayRuou> texture - how are you
Jun 26 21:16:35 <capbot> SayRuou: mas o menos
Jun 26 21:16:45 <treant01_> wb sayruou
Jun 26 21:16:49 <texture_> thank you for your help, i'm going to give it a try :)
Jun 26 21:17:08 <SayRuou> ok, so where was I at? 
Jun 26 21:17:08 <Reedy_Boy> i aint really helped
Jun 26 21:17:14 <SayRuou> oh - Naib still there?
Jun 26 21:17:26 <Naib> yer kinda, just hacked off with GTK
Jun 26 21:18:06 <SayRuou> I am still trying to get my hauppage mvp to work 
Jun 26 21:19:25 <Naib> list what files ipkg installed for that package
Jun 26 21:19:29 <SayRuou> hey what do you know - there's a mediamvp.conf file
Jun 26 21:19:45 <Naib> :^) I did say look in /etc
Jun 26 21:19:48 <Naib> for a conf
Jun 26 21:20:48 <SayRuou> NAIB - ok... so I read more closelly next time... 
Jun 26 21:21:08 <Naib> lol np
Jun 26 21:22:55 <caplink811> well, SayRuou you should look in /opt/etc, and possible in /opt/etc/mv-bla too
Jun 26 21:23:29 <caplink811> and you should have a look at the homepage for that project, when you found the related config file(s)
Jun 26 21:23:56 <SayRuou> "/opt/etc/mediamvp"
Jun 26 21:24:17 <SayRuou> so how do you restart the service without rebooting the slug?
Jun 26 21:24:38 <Naib> /opt/etc/init.d/mv.... restart
Jun 26 21:25:10 <caplink811> /opt/etc/init.d/Sxxyyy without start or reload, when we talk about unslung
Jun 26 21:26:07 <Naib> yer true so, forgot the ordering is done there and not in rc5.d
Jun 26 21:26:12 <Naib> rc2.d
Jun 26 21:26:13 <Naib> ...
Jun 26 21:26:33 <SayRuou> "/opt/etc/init.d/S60mediamvp"
Jun 26 21:26:42 <texture_> /bin/mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb2 /share/flash/conf
Jun 26 21:26:54 <texture_> oops... violent paste
Jun 26 21:27:16 <texture_> anyway, does this seem correct to boot from a flash drive in port 2?
Jun 26 21:28:03 <Reedy_Boy> to me yes, but im not that experience
Jun 26 21:28:07 <Reedy_Boy> need caplink or something
Jun 26 21:30:28 <SayRuou> texture - for USB port2, it's "sda#" .... for me Port 1 is "sdb#"
Jun 26 21:31:38 <texture_> ooooooops
Jun 26 21:31:41 <SayRuou> I still can't find a "telnet" client for the slug - anyone use telnet on a slug to telnet to a device?
Jun 26 21:31:46 <texture_> yes... thank you
Jun 26 21:37:16 <mwester> SayRuou: what OS on the slug?
Jun 26 21:45:51 <texture_> if anyone cares, vmware can be useful for partitionning a drive in ext3 when you don't have a linux box around. I do that with a virtual ubuntu
Jun 26 21:47:00 <SayRuou> mwester - slug 
Jun 26 21:47:39 <mwester> er, slug is the hardware - Unslung or OpenSlug for the OS?
Jun 26 21:48:23 <SayRuou> mwester- sorry, I've unslug it
Jun 26 21:48:48 <SayRuou> mwester - I am running it on an exter PNY512 drive
Jun 26 21:49:13 <SayRuou> mw - I've installed a couple of packages already (openssh, mediamvp)
Jun 26 21:49:14 <mwester> If this is unslung 5.5 or 6.8:  ipkg install inetutils
Jun 26 21:50:08 <SayRuou> Welcome to Unslung V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta
Jun 26 21:50:22 <SayRuou> mw - let me get that package and try
Jun 26 21:50:49 <SayRuou> mv - do I need to reboot?
Jun 26 21:51:09 <SayRuou> mv - hey... what do you know... I can telnet now - yahooooooo
Jun 26 21:53:22 <SayRuou> mv - thanks a bunch
Jun 26 21:55:37 <burly30> is it possible to delete the admin folder created by the nslu2 in windows connected via usb? im using explore2fs but cant delete
Jun 26 21:55:42 <burly30> its greyed out
Jun 26 21:58:02 <texture_> i'm running cfdisk on a flashdrive that i can't boot from anymore. according to cfdisk, the size of the swap partition has *changed*. it used to be smaller than the conf partition. cfdisk now displays both with the original size of the conf partition. anyone ever seen such a thing?
Jun 26 21:58:47 <burly30> (Or, if you wish to unsling without removing the current root filesystem, simply remove the file /share/flash/data/.unslung and retry the unsling -- but beware, you enter uncharted territory!)
Jun 26 21:59:01 <burly30> how can i delete this file?
Jun 26 21:59:09 <burly30> its hidden
Jun 26 22:00:41 <texture_> rm doesn't work?
Jun 26 22:01:01 <burly30> rm?
Jun 26 22:01:32 <texture_> are you looking for that file via the web interface or a share?
Jun 26 22:02:17 <burly30> web interface, i cant access the admin folder via a share pass doenst work, it doesnt appear via FTP
Jun 26 22:03:03 <texture_> you have to use telnet to login to your slug
Jun 26 22:03:03 <burly30> trying to delete it via usb but that doesnt work - file is protected or something
Jun 26 22:03:21 <burly30> what to i type to delete?
Jun 26 22:03:48 <texture_> do you know how to enable, then use telnet?
Jun 26 22:03:55 <burly30> yes i have telnet
Jun 26 22:04:17 <texture_> logged as root in the slug?
Jun 26 22:04:25 <burly30> i want to unsling
Jun 26 22:04:26 <burly30> yes
Jun 26 22:05:08 <burly30> i dotn want to reformat, just i cant remember the password
Jun 26 22:05:24 <burly30> so im re-flashing
Jun 26 22:05:45 <burly30> and unslinging again
Jun 26 22:05:53 <burly30> but it wont let me becuase of that file
Jun 26 22:06:00 <texture_> then the right command woule be "rm /share/flash/data/.unslung", but i have no idea what this implies. have you tried the redboot login procedure to recover from a bad flash? make sure you can do that before experimenting 
Jun 26 22:10:35 <burly30> im really lost
Jun 26 22:11:24 <burly30> i have re-flashed, but i cant re-sling because of that file
Jun 26 22:14:07 <texture_> what message do you get when you try to unsling?
Jun 26 22:17:27 <burly30> (Or, if you wish to unsling without removing the current root filesystem, simply remove the file /share/flash/data/.unslung and retry the unsling -- but beware, you enter uncharted territory!) 
Jun 26 22:31:29 <Harvy> ok this might be more of a general nix question
Jun 26 22:32:09 <Harvy> but with he slug it is something i am thinking abouttrying
Jun 26 22:32:15 <Harvy> ie
Jun 26 22:32:37 <Harvy> having more than 1 swap partition
Jun 26 22:32:41 <treant01_> burly, you are trying to just delete that file?
Jun 26 22:33:03 <Harvy> a big one in the main drive
Jun 26 22:33:32 <Harvy> and ten a smaller usb drive on another disk
Jun 26 22:33:45 <Harvy> just for swap
Jun 26 22:33:47 <burly30> i have deleted that file, and have unslinged
Jun 26 22:33:55 <treant01_> k
Jun 26 22:34:05 <burly30> but now im afriad same problem will occue
Jun 26 22:34:09 <burly30> rebooting to see
Jun 26 22:34:20 <burly30> password never works so cant telnet as root
Jun 26 22:51:38 <Harvy> burly: what are you using just a wild gess but have you tried ssh
Jun 26 22:53:42 <Harvy> ignoooooooooooooooooooooore
Jun 26 23:04:13 <burly30> i cant install ssh, because im not unsling
Jun 26 23:04:15 <burly30> but i am now :)
Jun 26 23:13:21 <npt> ok i just got my slug, i want to put gentoo running on it with openslug firmware, where do i start? and can i do it without a windows box completely?
Jun 26 23:13:44 <npt> i have the slug and it's opened up, i have a 120gb usb2 drive
Jun 26 23:14:00 <npt> i haven't snipped r83 yet out of fear
Jun 26 23:14:02 <npt> ;p
Jun 26 23:14:55 <npt> any help would be appreciated... even if you see this in a few days... please reply... any help appreciated... i am on the mailing list too...
Jun 26 23:14:58 <treant01_> do you mean the resister to increase cpu?
Jun 26 23:15:11 <treant01_> or is that r84?
Jun 26 23:16:34 <treant01_> if you are talking about the resistor for the cpu bump, then I just did that, went like a breeze.  I didn't have any problems
Jun 26 23:17:22 <texture_> the model i got last week runs at 266 out of the box
Jun 26 23:17:42 <treant01_> yeah, i heard that they've changed that
Jun 26 23:18:13 <texture_> it saves the trouble of opening the box...
Jun 26 23:18:38 <treant01_> I snipped my resistor with fingernail sisscors, lol
Jun 26 23:18:45 <treant01_> I couldn't find my wire snips so...
Jun 26 23:18:49 <treant01_> had to use what I had
Jun 26 23:18:52 <npt> hmm
Jun 26 23:18:57 <npt> i wonder if i should test it first
Jun 26 23:19:02 <npt> cause
Jun 26 23:19:05 <npt> if they run that way out of the box
Jun 26 23:19:08 <npt> the new ones
Jun 26 23:19:18 <npt> what if i have a new one and i am not supposed to snip r83 anymore?
Jun 26 23:19:21 <texture_> heh where's the fun in using the proper tools?
Jun 26 23:19:29 <npt> or if i can see r83, do i have an old version?
Jun 26 23:19:30 <treant01_> you should do a 'cat /proc/meminfo' before you do anything
Jun 26 23:19:31 <treant01_> wait
Jun 26 23:19:39 <treant01_> that's 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'
Jun 26 23:19:41 <npt> thanks that's what i thought
Jun 26 23:19:44 <npt> ok so
Jun 26 23:19:52 <npt> to get started, should i just plug it in
Jun 26 23:19:59 <treant01_> if you see anything close to 266, then don't change anything
Jun 26 23:20:00 <npt> with the usb drive plugged in?
Jun 26 23:20:10 <npt> it's plugged in to my hub
Jun 26 23:20:11 <texture_> npt, your slug has a sticker on the side
Jun 26 23:20:12 <npt> and ready to go
Jun 26 23:20:18 <npt> yeah i know
Jun 26 23:20:21 <texture_> it shows he manufacturing date
Jun 26 23:20:22 <npt> want me to read it?
Jun 26 23:20:42 <texture_> if it reads may 2006 it should be good already
Jun 26 23:20:47 <npt> inside?
Jun 26 23:20:49 <treant01_> the earliest mfg date with new cpu speed is may 2006 I think
Jun 26 23:20:57 <texture_> nope, on the outside
Jun 26 23:21:09 <npt> there isn't one on the outside
Jun 26 23:21:11 <npt> i dont think
Jun 26 23:21:13 <npt> lemme check
Jun 26 23:21:42 <npt> on the bottom, serial # and mac address
Jun 26 23:21:53 <texture_> it's on the side, near the power switch
Jun 26 23:21:53 <npt> inside on the circuit board, a lot more markings
Jun 26 23:22:06 <texture_> besides the recycling logo
Jun 26 23:22:40 <texture_> there's a pic of it on the wiki somewhere
Jun 26 23:23:00 <npt> do ALL slugs have this or just some?
Jun 26 23:23:12 <npt> i mean just the 5/2006 ones
Jun 26 23:23:45 <texture_> no idea
Jun 26 23:23:48 <npt> there seem to be revision #s on the circuit board
Jun 26 23:23:58 <npt> it says 0539 in big white letters
Jun 26 23:24:02 <npt> on the board
Jun 26 23:24:19 <texture_> go for the 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' command
Jun 26 23:24:43 <npt> once i have it up and running you mean?
Jun 26 23:24:51 <npt> with the stock firmware?
Jun 26 23:25:10 <npt> there is a way to telnet into the stock firmware right?
Jun 26 23:25:35 <texture_> yes, enable telnet on http://192.168.XXX.XXX/Management/telnet.cgi
Jun 26 23:25:42 <npt> not just into redboot, but like into the linux that is running on it in the stock linksys form
Jun 26 23:25:45 <texture_> do you know telnet?
Jun 26 23:25:51 <npt> yes
Jun 26 23:25:54 <texture_> k
Jun 26 23:26:11 <npt> but what i am asking is
Jun 26 23:26:16 <npt> if i just plug it in
Jun 26 23:26:20 <texture_> yes, when it's running. no hassel, just telnet and use that command
Jun 26 23:26:21 <npt> withough a windows machine
Jun 26 23:26:29 <npt> i can still get to this config page, yes?
Jun 26 23:26:56 <npt> s/withough/without
Jun 26 23:27:21 <texture_> you can get to the config page from any machine with a web brother, and that sees the slug on the network
Jun 26 23:27:30 <texture_> browser too
Jun 26 23:29:45 <npt> hehe
Jun 26 23:29:48 <npt> ok so
Jun 26 23:30:00 <npt> once i check and there is an extra machine in my dhcp client list
Jun 26 23:30:03 <npt> that is the slug
Jun 26 23:30:15 <npt> and i assume i point myself a the slug with a browser
Jun 26 23:30:23 <npt> what is the url i give it?
Jun 26 23:30:23 <texture_> yupp
Jun 26 23:30:28 <npt> i mean, on it's machine
Jun 26 23:30:32 <texture_> just type the IP in the address bar
Jun 26 23:30:42 <texture_> or it's name
Jun 26 23:30:43 <npt> like 192.168.1.X/ ??
Jun 26 23:31:03 <npt> anyway, what is the page
Jun 26 23:31:05 <npt> that i type in
Jun 26 23:31:09 <npt> after the ip address
Jun 26 23:31:10 <texture_> if your slug uses dhcp, it can have a different ip every time it boots
Jun 26 23:31:21 <npt> i know
Jun 26 23:31:27 <npt> i can figure the ip out
Jun 26 23:31:33 <npt> it's cool
Jun 26 23:31:36 <npt> i mean what AFTER that
Jun 26 23:31:38 <texture_> just type the ip and you will be redirected to the right page
Jun 26 23:31:58 <texture_> (you can define a static ip for the slug too)
Jun 26 23:32:39 <texture_> or try /index.cgi
Jun 26 23:36:44 <npt> ok
Jun 26 23:37:29 <npt> i lugged it in, with a 120gb western digital usb2 drive attached to port 1, then it took like a few mins but just beeped at me and now the ready light is lit up solid, not blinking.
Jun 26 23:37:34 <npt> what does that mean?
Jun 26 23:38:55 <texture_> that the slug is done booting :)
Jun 26 23:39:04 <npt> how do i get to it?
Jun 26 23:39:16 <npt> it isn't listed in my dhcp clients list
Jun 26 23:39:28 <npt> i am nmap 192.168.1.X now
Jun 26 23:39:52 <texture_> it's in factory state?
Jun 26 23:39:52 <npt> and also, after it beeped, if i have some hooked up to disk1, shouldn't it show it lit up, or is that an access light?
Jun 26 23:39:58 <npt> yes
Jun 26 23:40:04 <npt> not even snipped r83 yet
Jun 26 23:40:08 <npt> just got it hours ago
Jun 26 23:40:23 <texture_> the defalut ip is 192.169.1.77, i think
Jun 26 23:40:30 <texture_> the defalut ip is 192.168.1.77, i think
Jun 26 23:40:35 <npt> yep i just found it
Jun 26 23:40:38 <npt> nmap
Jun 26 23:40:40 <npt> .77
Jun 26 23:40:43 <npt> ok let's see what i can find
Jun 26 23:41:12 <npt> what is the default admin password?
Jun 26 23:41:27 <texture_> sheesh. mine still doesn't boot from the flash drive avter a power cycle
Jun 26 23:41:44 <drif> ntp: tried admin?
Jun 26 23:42:03 <npt> what is the admin password?
Jun 26 23:42:16 <drif> ntp: tried admin? (I repeat myself)
Jun 26 23:42:16 <npt> hehe admin is the admin password
Jun 26 23:42:18 <npt> ;p
Jun 26 23:42:24 <npt> thanks got it
Jun 26 23:42:26 <npt> :p
Jun 26 23:43:30 <texture_> 2am here... bye all
Jun 26 23:50:45 <npt> ok i am in on .77
Jun 26 23:50:52 <npt> thanks guys for the help
Jun 26 23:51:04 <treant01_> anyone know if you need to have a pre-existing partition to run 'turnup disk -i /dev/sda' ?
Jun 26 23:51:20 <npt> now to continue to learn the ways of openslug, getting gentoo on it somehow... :) etc
Jun 26 23:51:26 <treant01_> The wording on the turnup help commad has me a little confused
Jun 26 23:52:06 <npt> how does one enable telnet once you have access to the web interface?
Jun 27 00:11:01 <drif> ntp: still in need for that advice?
Jun 27 00:11:07 <drif> npt
Jun 27 00:12:02 <drif> npt: http://192.168.1.77/Management/telnet.cgi
Jun 27 00:13:10 <npt> drif: thanks a lot!
Jun 27 00:13:51 <npt> hmm
Jun 27 00:14:14 <npt> Content-type: text/html
Jun 27 00:14:16 <npt> <HTML>
Jun 27 00:14:16 <npt> <HEAD>
Jun 27 00:14:16 <npt> <TITLE>Error!</TITLE>
Jun 27 00:14:16 <npt> </HEAD>
Jun 27 00:14:16 <npt> <BODY>
Jun 27 00:14:18 <npt> <H1>Error: File not found.</H1>
Jun 27 00:14:20 <npt> <H2></H2>
Jun 27 00:14:22 <npt> </BODY>
Jun 27 00:14:25 <npt> </HTML>
Jun 27 00:14:25 <npt> is what i get
Jun 27 00:17:33 <mwester> npt: what firmware are you running on the NSLU2 ?
Jun 27 00:17:40 <npt> r63
Jun 27 00:17:47 <npt> stock
Jun 27 00:17:54 <npt> and there is no may/2006 sticker on it
Jun 27 00:18:21 <npt> i am worried, do i have a problem now? did i get a newere firmware that doesn't have the telnet hole or something?
Jun 27 00:19:10 <mwester> There's no telnet provided with Linksys firmware any longer.  You'll have to install the Unslung firmware to get telnet
Jun 27 00:19:20 <npt> oh ok
Jun 27 00:19:22 <npt> thanks
Jun 27 00:19:24 <npt> i was wondering wtf
Jun 27 00:19:32 <npt> thanks a lot for explaining that
Jun 27 00:19:41 <npt> i want to run openslug so i can run gentoo on it
Jun 27 00:19:49 <npt> i run gentoo on all my other boxes
Jun 27 00:19:57 <npt> just thought i'd make sure it worked first and all
Jun 27 00:20:11 <npt> and i wanted to see if it had already been set to run at 266 before i do surgery
Jun 27 00:21:23 <npt> so upgrading from stock linksys to unslug is easy right? just upgrade the firmware and reboot pretty much?
Jun 27 00:21:24 <treant01_> did you ever just open up the case and see if that resister is there?
Jun 27 00:21:33 <npt> yeah
Jun 27 00:21:35 <npt> it is there
Jun 27 00:22:00 <mwester> Install OpenSlug first, then perform hardware mods on the device -- otherwise, if you have a problem, you have no experience to help determine if the issue is a bad flash (for example) or a hardware prob....
Jun 27 00:22:04 <npt> so i am thinking i will have to do the surgery
Jun 27 00:22:18 <treant01_> then I'd say install unslug or openslug first
Jun 27 00:22:25 <npt> mwester: good advice, that was kinda what i was thinking
Jun 27 00:22:41 <npt> ok cool
Jun 27 00:22:43 <npt> openslug first
Jun 27 00:22:50 <npt> off to the wiki i go
Jun 27 00:23:09 <treant01_> good luck npt :-)
Jun 27 00:23:41 <npt> treant01_: thanks a lot! 
Jun 27 00:23:44 <npt> i will report back for sure
Jun 27 00:23:58 <npt> so far this little box seems slick as hell
Jun 27 00:24:08 <npt> i gotta get a powered hub though
Jun 27 00:24:10 <npt> after 2.6.16
Jun 27 00:24:33 <npt> as i have a zd1211 card on order, and a dlink 650tx ethernet as well
Jun 27 00:24:43 <npt> well the dlink i own
Jun 27 00:24:47 <npt> i wouldn't pay for that
Jun 27 00:24:49 <npt> ;p
Jun 27 01:30:39 <treant01_> what needs to be done to an openslug installation running on an external hd in order to install opendebian?
Jun 27 01:31:15 <treant01_> I see directions for a working install of openslug but I have it running on sda1 already.  That is the drive I'd be copying all the files to according to the directions
Jun 27 01:31:53 <treant01_> I don't see anything about putting openslug back to running on flash
Jun 27 01:33:21 <deadcat> treant01_: i have debian/nslu2, from the cyrius.com howto. hes releasing 2.6.17 in few days.
Jun 27 01:36:42 <treant01_> nice, will he be releasing OpenDebian along with debian/nslu2?
Jun 27 01:37:12 <treant01_> and, thanks for the reference.  I didn't know about that site
Jun 27 01:47:15 <npt> got a link?
Jun 27 01:47:48 <treant01_> npt: for debian/nslu2?
Jun 27 01:47:57 <npt> yeah
Jun 27 01:48:10 <npt> the  cyrius.com link
Jun 27 01:48:15 <treant01_> yeah, deadcat mentioned it above, it's at www.cyrius.com
Jun 27 02:24:18 <npt> if it's flashing green then green, etc
Jun 27 02:24:25 <npt> i can pull the power and try again, right?
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